Spider-Man vs Fantastic Four

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xmarksthespot
I don't think this has ever been done and I'm somewhat curious.

Standard forum rules besides the additional stipulations below.

Fight in Manhattan, begins outside the Baxter Building. No prep.

A. Classic Spider-Man
B. Iron Spider-Man

1. CIS is on.
2. CIS is off.

So the permutations are A1, A2, B1 and B2.

Who wins in each of these scenarios, and how many times /10?

pr1983
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I don't think this has ever been done and I'm somewhat curious.

Standard forum rules besides the additional stipulations below.

Fight in Manhattan, begins outside the Baxter Building. No prep.

A. Classic Spider-Man
B. Iron Spider-Man

1. CIS is on.
2. CIS is off.

So the permutations are A1, A2, B1 and B2.

Who wins in each of these scenarios, and how many times /10?

A1: No.
A2: No.
B1: With a crap writer, maybe...
B2: No.

xmarksthespot
You didn't do as I asked. I wanted an /10 probability. Bad pr, bad.

Genis101
Spiderman cant even hurt the Thing at all, much less beat him. Nor does he even have a chance to penetrate IW's forcefields or survive Johnny's Nova. And he cant try to outsmart the FF either since they have Reed, who is nigh-impossible to outsmart. So without some serious PIS, Either version of Spider Man gets completely owned. FF 10/10

Genis101
sry, double post

pr1983
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
You didn't do as I asked. I wanted an /10 probability. Bad pr, bad.

Shit... ok...

A1: Spidey wins maybe one, if he's lucky...
A2: 0/10 for spidey...
B1: 3 or 4 for Spidey...
B2: 0/10 for Spidey...

Happy? stick out tongue

xmarksthespot
Originally posted by pr1983
Shit... ok...

A1: Spidey wins maybe one, if he's lucky...
A2: 0/10 for spidey...
B1: 3 or 4 for Spidey...
B2: 0/10 for Spidey...

Happy? stick out tongue Jubilant. happy More jubilant than Jubilee.

And those are probably the figures I'd give too.

pr1983
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Jubilant. happy More jubilant than Jubilee.

And those are probably the figures I'd give too.

Well then, i'm as jubilant as you are being more jubilant than jubilee... big grin

marvelprince
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I don't think this has ever been done and I'm somewhat curious.

Standard forum rules besides the additional stipulations below.

Fight in Manhattan, begins outside the Baxter Building. No prep.

A. Classic Spider-Man
B. Iron Spider-Man

1. CIS is on.
2. CIS is off.

So the permutations are A1, A2, B1 and B2.

Who wins in each of these scenarios, and how many times /10?

A1: 2/10
A2: 0/10
B1: They could have him take out Ben by choking him with the suit 4/10
B2: 2/10

Ultraman Baltan
A. Yes
B. No

Grimm22
A1: 3/10

A2: -2/10

B1: 4/10

B2: 0/10

Faceman
I just dont see Spidey winning at all. sad

xmarksthespot
Originally posted by marvelprince
A1: 2/10
A2: 0/10
B1: They could have him take out Ben by choking him with the suit 4/10
B2: 2/10 Elaborate on B2?

Scoobless
He could beat them all in 1 on 1 fights if he fought smart... as a team .... he may scrape 1-2 out of 10... if he fights very smart

marvelprince
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Elaborate on B2?

He's invisible for one. Suit gives him resistance to flames, so short of going Nova Torch won't be able to hurt him. And with CIS off he's moving as fast as he can to take out Sue. And none of the FF have any means to detect him when he's invisible so thats a definite edge here. One punch to take out Sue and Johnny, choke out Ben and then flip around Reed till he tires

thedude1948
How long exactly does Spider-Mans suit's invisibility feature last? all of the times I see him use it, it was only for a short amount of time, is there any evidence that he can keep it on for a long period of time?

A1: 1/10
A2: 0/10
B1: 2/10
B2: 0/10

xmarksthespot
Originally posted by marvelprince
He's invisible for one. Suit gives him resistance to flames, so short of going Nova Torch won't be able to hurt him. And with CIS off he's moving as fast as he can to take out Sue. And none of the FF have any means to detect him when he's invisible so thats a definite edge here. One punch to take out Sue and Johnny, choke out Ben and then flip around Reed till he tires Spider-Man is going to punch the Invisible Woman who'd also likely be invisible, and is inside an invisible forcefield that can take hits from Cl100s.

I'm pretty sure Thing can survive in space, so I'm not sure how dependent he is on oxygen.

He can't hurt Mr Fantastic at all.

But foremost, CIS off there's absolutely nothing to stop Torch going nova. erm

thedude1948
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
But foremost, CIS off there's absolutely nothing to stop Torch going nova. erm
He webs his hands duh. Spidey with webbed hands cant be burnt

Grimm22
Spidey has no chance against any of the members of the team no expression

marvelprince
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Spider-Man is going to punch the Invisible Woman who'd also likely be invisible, and is inside an invisible forcefield that can take hits from Cl100s.

I'm pretty sure Thing can survive in space, so I'm not sure how dependent he is on oxygen.

He can't hurt Mr Fantastic at all.

But foremost, CIS off there's absolutely nothing to stop Torch going nova. erm

Spidey's suit has infra-red so going invisible won't help.

Venom almost killed Ben with his tongue. Spider-man's suit is liquid metal. He can accomplish the same.

No he can't hurt Mr. Fantastic

If Sue has the other members of the FF under a forcefield then no nothing is preventing that.

xmarksthespot
Originally posted by Grimm22
Spidey has no chance against any of the members of the team no expression He can beat Thing.

Scoobless
Originally posted by Grimm22
Spidey has no chance against any of the members of the team no expression

no expression ....... no2

xmarksthespot
Originally posted by marvelprince
Spidey's suit has infra-red so going invisible won't help.Being inside an incredibly resistant forcefield does though.
Originally posted by marvelprince
Venom almost killed Ben with his tongue. Spider-man's suit is liquid metal. He can accomplish the same. He can beat Thing.

marvelprince
Originally posted by Grimm22
Spidey has no chance against any of the members of the team no expression

Thing won't be much a problem imo. Johnny will melt him, Sue's forcefields won't be easy to get through and Reed can't be hurt. Ben's the easy one

marvelprince
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Being inside an incredibly resistant forcefield does though.

Yea it does. If she plays defensive then he can't get to her. Hence I only gave him 2/10 chance


Originally posted by xmarksthespot
He can beat Thing.

At least we agree on this

xmarksthespot
Originally posted by marvelprince
Yea it does. If she plays defensive then he can't get to her. Hence I only gave him 2/10 chanceShe can play offense and defense, her allies are visible, just attack the empty space. I'm still not seeing the 2/10 when Torch can just go nova, with the FF shielded by IW.
Originally posted by marvelprince
At least we agree on this I think everyone agrees on this.

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