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romeo...oh romeo

so, remember when everyone was flipping out at the thought of leonardo dicaprio playing the part of anakin? in retrospect, do you still think he would have been a bad choice? would he have been able to take lucas' wooden dialogue and given it at least some sense of emotion? or is lucas' script the type of crap that the greatest of academy award winning actors couldnt make convincing?

note: i didnt ask who is better looking, so fangirls need not reply, unless your opinion is based on acting ability rather than who is prettier.

so you are given a time machine and a mind control device.
you are able to go back in time and program GL to pick one actor.
either you could refuse and keep it as is, or you can use this new
power and force GL to pick leo. sorry, no other choices.

just hayden and leo...


SAY THANK YOU GILBERT

Hayden.. Hayden.. and Hayden...

Whats eating Gilbert Grape lolzzzzzzzzz

I think the Dicaprio would have been a better choice

i don't like DiCaprio for some unknown reason.

Ive forgiven him for Titanic

Speaking of which rofl

http://ebaumsworld.com/2006/07/titanicpimp.html

i think a good film to base his ability on would be gangs of new york, given his dark character, as opposed to the generic prettyboy he plays in most other rolls.

oh.. i remember now.. i hated him because of Titanic.. its the only movie i've ever watched that he stars in...

so Titanic was the culprit..



still don't like him..

i actually wish i could watch that as fast as i could but the pc's too slow.. i'm watchng that next time..

yeah, this isnt about who was in teh crappiest film. ability...ability....ability.

i hated most of dicaprio's rolls, but then again thats really the fault of the film.
after all, i forgave ewan for molin rouge.

oh well.. i still don't like him..

.....ok............

I thought Dicaprio was good in 'gangs' and 'catch me if you can', havn't seen The Aviator, The Departed looks good though.

One role im glad he didnt get though was Patrick Bateman

Leo's got more credibility as an actor...people brush him off just cuz he's got a pretty face. When he was younger, he played a struggling author in This Boy's Life with Rob Deniro.

And I have no complaints about Titanic. I do have complaints, however, of Hayden's acting.

Not a huge fan of DiCaprio, especially with Titanic, but I think he would have given more emotion/credibility/sympathy than Hayden. Did like The Beach though.

See, I think Hayden was fine.

He acted the way that GL told him to, and played the character the way GL wanted him played.

Another actor may have done the same emotions/lines in different ways, but GL would have made sure that whatever point was supposed to come across to the audience still did.


So, I guess I'm saying that no matter who played Anakin it would be mostly the same character.

Dicaprio's a great actor, would have been interesting.

Personally, I'd have liked Ryan Phillipe.

Originally posted by JaehSkywalker
Hayden.. Hayden.. and Hayden...

and shame on you for rehashing this debate

hayden i just cant picture leonardo playing anakin

Originally posted by Kaos sebaceous
hayden i just cant picture leonardo playing anakin

ok, take a picture of anakin, cut out hayden's face, and paste a pic of dicaprio's face. now that that dilemma is solved.....

hmmm. I'd have to stick with Hayden. I think had Leo stared in it, it would have ended up a "Leo film". Not that he's a superb actor, but just cause of the way he acts. I think Hayden did a good job, i felt what he was feeling before he vocalized his emotions. The only part i thought sounded dumb was the way he said, "what have i done?!" Just didnt feel it.

I'm satisfied with Hayden-Poo. Now if you want to put Jessica Alba in for Padem, haha, nah im kidding.

Hayden. It needed to be someone relatively unknown, in my opinion. I actually don't think Hayden did that bad a job considering what he had to work with...

I'm more interested about how the chemistry would of worked between Leo and Ewan/Natalie/Ian - fun to imagine, but i'd stick with Hayden.

Lucas always has picked little-known actors. I like this...assuming he can direct the actors in a a way that allows them to act.

Originally posted by PVS
romeo...oh romeo

so, remember when everyone was flipping out at the thought of leonardo dicaprio playing the part of anakin? in retrospect, do you still think he would have been a bad choice? would he have been able to take lucas' wooden dialogue and given it at least some sense of emotion? or is lucas' script the type of crap that the greatest of academy award winning actors couldnt make convincing?

note: i didnt ask who is better looking, so fangirls need not reply, unless your opinion is based on acting ability rather than who is prettier.

so you are given a time machine and a mind control device.
you are able to go back in time and program GL to pick one actor.
either you could refuse and keep it as is, or you can use this new
power and force GL to pick leo. sorry, no other choices.

just hayden and leo...


SAY THANK YOU GILBERT

unless he's gonna change the script/plot, i don't think it matters...

I think it might. In the OT the actors bitched about the lines which contained lot of weird techno-gibberish and changed them on the spot. Especially Harrison Ford's line changes are legendary by now. But who would argue with Lucas nowadays about nonsensical lines. A star like DiCaprio could have... you never know.

HADYEN!!! .... HAYDEN!!! .... HAYDEN!!!

Originally posted by queeq
I think it might. In the OT the actors bitched about the lines which contained lot of weird techno-gibberish and changed them on the spot. Especially Harrison Ford's line changes are legendary by now. But who would argue with Lucas nowadays about nonsensical lines. A star like DiCaprio could have... you never know.

thats kinda what im talking about. stars with not only prowess, but an ego
to rival his wouldnt have lakely sat back and accepted the crap fed to them.
sometimes bloated egos are a good thing, as was with harrison ford. balls
enough to tell your boss "this is crap, lets change it"

ford put a part of himself into the character of han solo. he wasnt just acting
the part, he took part in the final invention of solo. it wasnt like GL said
"you're a monkey...wear this fur suit and dance like a monkey" and ford
said "yes sir". same for alec guiness. do you think GL had the nerve to
tell guiness that his acting as obiwan was not according to his 'vision'?
no, ill bet he just sat back and let the master do his work.

this time around it seems GL was far more than a director, but rather a
dictator. as versatile an actor as ewan is, and as well as he pulled it off,
i cant help but sense alot of restriction in his character as well, as if he
was forbidden to take part in the invention of his own character...keeping
it from fully blossoming into a proper compliment to guinness's roll.

part of the creative process should involve teamwork with the actor,
to help taylor the roll for them, rather than throw out a "one size fits all"
roll and then find an appropriate face to stick onto it.

i think leo would have been just the little prick to stand up to GL, and demand
that process be allowed, a process which helped give the OT its true sense of
connection to the audience. i feel like i knew the characters, and could almost
predict their reactions in any other hypothetical scenario...its a personal
connection between character and audience. in the PT the characters are as
much of a mystery and when it began. the only character which seemed to
have that sense of freedom and creativity on the part of the actor was imho
was....incredibly ironic....palpatine.

^exactly what i and she said!

wtf are you talking about?
you never said any of that in this thread.

Originally posted by JaehSkywalker
^exactly what i and she said! Originally posted by PVS
wtf are you talking about?
you never said any of that in this thread.

Maybe she was using an old codex?

Originally posted by PVS
thats kinda what im talking about. stars with not only prowess, but an ego
to rival his wouldnt have lakely sat back and accepted the crap fed to them.
sometimes bloated egos are a good thing, as was with harrison ford. balls
enough to tell your boss "this is crap, lets change it"

ford put a part of himself into the character of han solo. he wasnt just acting
the part, he took part in the final invention of solo. it wasnt like GL said
"you're a monkey...wear this fur suit and dance like a monkey" and ford
said "yes sir". same for alec guiness. do you think GL had the nerve to
tell guiness that his acting as obiwan was not according to his 'vision'?
no, ill bet he just sat back and let the master do his work.

this time around it seems GL was far more than a director, but rather a
dictator. as versatile an actor as ewan is, and as well as he pulled it off,
i cant help but sense alot of restriction in his character as well, as if he
was forbidden to take part in the invention of his own character...keeping
it from fully blossoming into a proper compliment to guinness's roll.

part of the creative process should involve teamwork with the actor,
to help taylor the roll for them, rather than throw out a "one size fits all"
roll and then find an appropriate face to stick onto it.

i think leo would have been just the little prick to stand up to GL, and demand
that process be allowed, a process which helped give the OT its true sense of
connection to the audience. i feel like i knew the characters, and could almost
predict their reactions in any other hypothetical scenario...its a personal
connection between character and audience. in the PT the characters are as
much of a mystery and when it began. the only character which seemed to
have that sense of freedom and creativity on the part of the actor was imho
was....incredibly ironic....palpatine.

YEah, but Mcdiarmid just had to do hwat he did in ROTJ... and he was sublime in all movies. McGregor took two films to get it right, but who got the chance to act so much?

I think at the time the OT much was unclear how things should actually turn out. Especially on ANH, Lucas failed to give them enough imagination. So the actors filled it in themselves.

Originally posted by queeq
I think it might. In the OT the actors bitched about the lines which contained lot of weird techno-gibberish and changed them on the spot. Especially Harrison Ford's line changes are legendary by now. But who would argue with Lucas nowadays about nonsensical lines. A star like DiCaprio could have... you never know.

thats what i meant...

just casting dicaprio and keeping the same lines wouldnt have made much difference...

so we agree...

If you want...

Originally posted by queeq
If you want...

ok...

Leo would be the most retarded thing ever, he is too babyish, and his face isn't "mean" looking enough or something. Hayden is a "prettyboy" but Leo is like THE pretty boy, I've seen "gangs" and even in that his "angry" face looked more like he was constipated or something. Leo would have been a terrible choice, I would have completely disowned the PT had he been cast as Anakin. (And I really like the PT) At least Hayden looked the part IMO.

I liked Hayden in AOTC and I thought he did a superb job in ROTS, there is no reason in my mind to want to replace him.

Originally posted by ((The_Anomaly))
Leo would be the most retarded thing ever, he is too babyish, and his face isn't "mean" looking enough or something. Hayden is a "prettyboy" but Leo is like THE pretty boy, I've seen "gangs" and even in that his "angry" face looked more like he was constipated or something. Leo would have been a terrible choice, I would have completely disowned the PT had he been cast as Anakin. (And I really like the PT) At least Hayden looked the part IMO.

I liked Hayden in AOTC and I thought he did a superb job in ROTS, there is no reason in my mind to want to replace him.

EXACTLY!

Hayden's an okay actor but he didn't show his best in SW.