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I know sex outside of marriage is a sin according to the Bible, but what about the varied sexual activities between a husband & wife? I.E.

Oral sex
Anal sex
Mutual masturbation
Non-missionary sexual positions
Sex toys
Watching pornography together
Bondage
Fantasy dress-up/Role playing
Role reversal

(edited)

None of them above allowed from what I know. No oral sex during marriage. F**k that...

Originally posted by Robtard
I know sex outside of marriage is a sin according to the Bible, but what about the varied sexual activities between a husband & wife? I.E.

Oral sex
Anal sex
Mutual masturbation
Non-missionary sexual positions
Sex toys
Watching pornography together

I'm glad I'm a Buddhist.

Originally posted by Robtard
I know sex outside of marriage is a sin according to the Bible, but what about the varied sexual activities between a husband & wife? I.E.

Oral sex
Anal sex
Mutual masturbation
Non-missionary sexual positions
Sex toys
Watching pornography together

My religion has, to my knowledge, left sexual activity as something between the husband, the wife, and God. Although, pornography falls outside the bounds of marriage due to the fact that pornography involves the model photographed as well.

My personal opinion is that if it strengthens the relationship between the husband and wife it is good. There are involuntary processes that cause orgasm (e.g. Wet Dreams, etc.) IMO there is no reason to believe that non-procreating sexual relations are harmful if the husband and wife become closer through the act.

Originally posted by Regret
My religion has, to my knowledge, left sexual activity as something between the husband, the wife, and God. Although, pornography falls outside the bounds of marriage due to the fact that pornography involves the model photographed as well.

My personal opinion is that if it strengthens the relationship between the husband and wife it is good. There are involuntary processes that cause orgasm (e.g. Wet Dreams, etc.) IMO there is no reason to believe that non-procreating sexual relations are harmful if the husband and wife become closer through the act.

"My religion has, to my knowledge, left sexual activity as something between the husband, the wife, and God" Sounds like a threesome there Regret...

Ok, clown retorts aside... The book of Mormon does not condemn "non-procreaional sex"? That is interesting, I always took Mormons for being somewhat uptight, go figure.

Originally posted by Regret
My religion has, to my knowledge, left sexual activity as something between the husband, the wife, and God. Although, pornography falls outside the bounds of marriage due to the fact that pornography involves the model photographed as well.

My personal opinion is that if it strengthens the relationship between the husband and wife it is good. There are involuntary processes that cause orgasm (e.g. Wet Dreams, etc.) IMO there is no reason to believe that non-procreating sexual relations are harmful if the husband and wife become closer through the act.

+ porn is boring.

Originally posted by Robtard
Ok, clown retorts aside... The book of Mormon does not condemn "non-procreaional sex"? That is interesting, I always took Mormons for being somewhat uptight, go figure.

But they still condem homosexual sex between consenting adults.

Originally posted by Robtard
"My religion has, to my knowledge, left sexual activity as something between the husband, the wife, and God" Sounds like a threesome there Regret...

Ok, clown retorts aside... The book of Mormon does not condemn "non-procreaional sex"? That is interesting, I always took Mormons for being somewhat uptight, go figure.

I am sure that various authorities have made comments against some activities in the past, but officially there hasn't been a statement against anything that I am aware of. Good thing too, I enjoy the physical aspects of marriage quite a bit ....

...of marriage?

How about the physical aspects of being human.

Originally posted by Alliance
But they still condem homosexual sex between consenting adults. Yes, because it falls outside the bounds of marriage, and the religion does not recognize homosexual marriage, and so cannot be acceptable I'm sure we also just plain believe it is wrong, but I haven't found reference to that, just to the marriage guideline for sexual relations.

Originally posted by Alliance
But they still condem homosexual sex between consenting adults.

I know, but what I am talking about is, is there/can there be sexual sin between a husband and wife according to Christianty.

Originally posted by Alliance
...of marriage?

How about the physical aspects of being human.

I believe learning control/restraint to be a part of the experience of being human, proper time/context is necessary for proper results in most things.

And I believe part of being human exists beyond the realm of restraint.

Originally posted by Alliance
And I believe part of being human exists beyond the realm of restraint.

Restraint is not a realm.

Yes it is. You apply it to aspect of yourself...and not to others.

Originally posted by Robtard
I know sex outside of marriage is a sin according to the Bible, but what about the varied sexual activities between a husband & wife? I.E.

Oral sex
Anal sex
Mutual masturbation
Non-missionary sexual positions
Sex toys
Watching pornography together
Bondage
Fantasy dress-up/Role playing
Role reversal

(edited) Ohhhhh Pentecostal church frowns on this......


It made my daddy sad...

Originally posted by debbiejo
Ohhhhh Pentecostal church frowns on this......


It made my daddy sad...


Does it say so anywhere in the Bible???

LOL... Poor, poor, daddy...

Where is JIA when we need him with his encyclopedic knowledge of Biblical text?

Originally posted by Robtard
Does it say so anywhere in the Bible???

LOL... Poor, poor, daddy...

Where is JIA when we need him with his encyclopedic knowledge of Biblical text? Yeah where is he........I don't think it is mentioned in the bible really........hmm

Mom kept saying NO!! Especially the Oral sex part........It's amazing what my dad tells me.........lol

Originally posted by debbiejo
Yeah where is he........I don't think it is mentioned in the bible really........hmm

Mom kept saying NO!! Especially the Oral sex part........It's amazing what my dad tells me.........lol

Ugh, I would never want to know if my mother took a shot in the mouth or liked 'it' up the bum, especially coming from my father... Would you? I'd slap your father if he was my daddy.

Originally posted by Robtard
Ugh, I would never want to know if my mother took a shot in the mouth or like 'it' up the bum, especially coming from my father... Would you? I'd slap your father if he was my daddy. Like I said, it's amazing what my father tells me sometimes........

I say, ah dad, you I am your daugher, not your son.....They divorced btw....lol

Honsetly...what's sex without some spice and leather?

Boring and pointless.

No kidding.

It's kinda like a Monday night with your wife at a business conference.

comfort <--- how about with her?

No debbie, I don't really find you attractive. Sorry I don't think your my type.

Originally posted by Alliance
No debbie, I don't really find you attractive. Sorry I don't think your my type. Ooo Ouch.........

That's not me.........that's your wife......

Originally posted by debbiejo
comfort <--- how about with her?

Hmmm. Yellow skin... a sign of onset HIV.

No apparent nose... a sign of leprosy.

Morbidly obese...

Spindly legs - that women is a walking time bomb!

Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
Hmmm. Yellow skin... a sign of onset HIV.

No apparent nose... a sign of leprosy.

Morbidly obese...

Spindly legs - that women is a walking time bomb!

Yellow skin usually means jaundice, not that that is a bonus in a potential mate

Originally posted by debbiejo
Ooo Ouch.........

That's not me.........that's your wife......

Dude...I'm like 13.

Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
Hmmm. Yellow skin... a sign of onset HIV.

No apparent nose... a sign of leprosy.

Morbidly obese...

Spindly legs - that women is a walking time bomb!

Not to mention she eats her way out of house and home. Probably is real pimply too.

Originally posted by Robtard
I know sex outside of marriage is a sin according to the Bible, but what about the varied sexual activities between a husband & wife? I.E.

Oral sex
Anal sex
Mutual masturbation
Non-missionary sexual positions
Sex toys
Watching pornography together
Bondage
Fantasy dress-up/Role playing
Role reversal

(edited)
I believe anal and porn would both be a no-no.

Originally posted by badabing
I believe anal and porn would both be a no-no.

But why? The couple is married, does the Bible specify these two things compared to the others I have posted? I can see how porn is different than the rest since it indirectly involves other people (as Regret mentioned), but why would anal be a "no-no" while oral, mutual masturbation, sex toys etc be alright?

Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
Hmmm. Yellow skin... a sign of onset HIV.

No apparent nose... a sign of leprosy.

Morbidly obese...

Spindly legs - that women is a walking time bomb! Originally posted by Alliance
Dude...I'm like 13.

Originally posted by Robtard
Yellow skin usually means jaundice, not that that is a bonus in a potential mate

True, and it is more pronounced in that case, but sometimes it turns up in HIV - and terribly few people know what jaundice is (though to be far not many really know what HIV means either)



Could it reflect on that ultra-puritan mindset that sex for pleasure if a no no - God told Eve she was to have babies. Sex is for reproduction or for attempting to reproduce. No Pleasure for you!

Originally posted by Imperial_Samura

Could it reflect on that ultra-puritan mindset that sex for pleasure if a no no - God told Eve she was to have babies. Sex is for reproduction or for attempting to reproduce. No Pleasure for you!

That's what I am trying to find out, but the Bible beaters are avoiding this thread like the plague.

Originally posted by Robtard
That's what I am trying to find out, but the Bible beaters are avoiding this thread like the plague. It is avoided because they do not have much of a Biblical base for their denouncing of the acts. The Bible suggests homosexuality is a sin, and uses the term unnatural to define sexual acts that are sins, but inside a marriage the Bible is basically silent.

Very true.

Originally posted by Regret
It is avoided because they do not have much of a Biblical base for their denouncing of the acts. The Bible suggests homosexuality is a sin, and uses the term unnatural to define sexual acts that are sins, but inside a marriage the Bible is basically silent.

One could extrapolate that the classifications of certain in marriage sexual acts as sins are due to the residual effects of the early Church authorities attempts to integrate themselves in as many aspects of their followers lives a possible.

By limiting action and behaviour and the way in which one could act correctly control is maintained. They probably feared a slippery slope/domino effect kind of situation:

"...we start letting them have sex for fun in marriage, and they might start doing it outside marriage, then we will have people thinking being gay is fine, then we will have people marrying their lawn clippings... and then no one will give us money. Nope, we need to clamp down and keep sex as non-fun as possible. And then when they break down and have fun sex they will feel bad, and they will need to come to us an ask for forgiveness because they gave in to temptations of the flesh! Genius!"

Originally posted by Robtard
I know sex outside of marriage is a sin according to the Bible, but what about the varied sexual activities between a husband & wife? I.E.

Oral sex
Anal sex
Mutual masturbation
Non-missionary sexual positions
Sex toys
Watching pornography together
Bondage
Fantasy dress-up/Role playing
Role reversal

(edited)

All sexual activities are fair game between a married couple.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
All sexual activities are fair game between a married couple.

Even the one that has Christians getting all Biblical on gay people over?

Can you role play as Jesus and Mary and do it???

Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
One could extrapolate that the classifications of certain in marriage sexual acts as sins are due to the residual effects of the early Church authorities attempts to integrate themselves in as many aspects of their followers lives a possible.

By limiting action and behaviour and the way in which one could act correctly control is maintained. They probably feared a slippery slope/domino effect kind of situation:

"...we start letting them have sex for fun in marriage, and they might start doing it outside marriage, then we will have people thinking being gay is fine, then we will have people marrying their lawn clippings... and then no one will give us money. Nope, we need to clamp down and keep sex as non-fun as possible. And then when they break down and have fun sex they will feel bad, and they will need to come to us an ask for forgiveness because they gave in to temptations of the flesh! Genius!" Could be, I prefer to be more positive in my perspective though.

In the past there have been various acts viewed as dirty or some other negative connotation. Oral and Anal sex are placing the mouth or penis where waste is evacuated, hence a "dirty" connotation.

It is easy to see where counsel against such activities may originate, particularly if lack of cleanliness led to health issues among a group somewhere.

As to masturbation, I am unsure as to how this would come to being viewed as wrong, other than the fact that it is basically an idle activity for a single individual.

Originally posted by debbiejo
Can you role play as Jesus and Mary and do it???

So you'd be acting out your divinely incestuous fantasies?

I think I'd prefer something a bit more Greek. At least that way grapes and body oil might be suitably involved.



Maybe, but I am cynical, and there seems to have been to many cases where the Church limited activities based upon trying to enforce a limit of action.

Besides, cleanliness wasn't always important to them (certainly not before the Crusaders when bathing wasn't that hot) - and the kissing of relics - sweet heavens the diseases that would have spread, kissing a rotten finger bone a thousand others have slobbered on. Not good at all.

I meant Mary Magdalen..........

Originally posted by debbiejo
I meant Mary Magdalen..........

Well that isn't very kinky. Unless Jesus is in a leather one of those robe kind of things he is portrayed as wearing.

Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
Maybe, but I am cynical, and there seems to have been to many cases where the Church limited activities based upon trying to enforce a limit of action.

Besides, cleanliness wasn't always important to them (certainly not before the Crusaders when bathing wasn't that hot) - and the kissing of relics - sweet heavens the diseases that would have spread, kissing a rotten finger bone a thousand others have slobbered on. Not good at all. Then it is merely a matter of perspective. I typically try take an optimist approach, albeit with skepticism.

Originally posted by Regret
Then it is merely a matter of perspective. I typically try take an optimist approach, albeit with skepticism.

I like to think to myself as an optimistic realist.

Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
Even the one that has Christians getting all Biblical on gay people over?

Yes.

Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
So you'd be acting out your divinely incestuous fantasies?

I think I'd prefer something a bit more Greek. At least that way grapes and body oil might be suitably involved.

Now there's a sex idea: dress up as Ares and Aphrodite......hmm

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Now there's a sex idea: dress up as Ares and Aphrodite......hmm

Exactly. droolio



Seems simple then, let gays get married and then it wouldn't matter what kind of sex they were having, or whether it would produce babies or not.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Now there's a sex idea: dress up as Ares and Aphrodite......hmm

YUM!

If sexual activity outside of marriage is sinful, then masturbating by yourself is sinful.

Any sexual activity not done with your husband or wife is sinful, that includes sexual activity with yourself as sinful as well.

And if you cannot find someone to marry, then you should never have sex or masturbate....EVER

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
If sexual activity outside of marriage is sinful, then masturbating by yourself is sinful.

Any sexual activity not done with your husband or wife is sinful, that includes sexual activity with yourself as sinful as well.

And if you cannot find someone to marry, then you should never have sex or masturbate....EVER

Well, technically, you shouldn't anyway.

Originally posted by Alliance
Well, technically, you shouldn't anyway.

Why ?

From certain religious points of view.

Originally posted by Alliance
From certain religious points of view.

Puritan bullshit....

Yes.

Originally posted by Alliance
Yes.