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...How many Earth Superheroes will take to stop him? No Cosmic or Magical Characters. Just Earth's mighty Heroes. You may pick from these teams:

X-Men
Fantastic Four
Avengers
SHIELD

This event takes place pre-Civil War. You can use as many as you like or just name one.

Sentry/Void , we all know it would end up with Marvels craziest characters taking on SBP head to head.

Reynolds would probably go down mid-way through the fight before getting a helping hand from his 'other self'

ok first of all how the f **** come i guy ive never heard of gets to be a mod, or one of the previous had had a name change secondly dont even go there, you know SBP kills everybody instantly, even if ppl wanna pull cosmics outta there ass...no one less than abstracts...maybe galan at full power, but no one else...not even king hyperion

What's this? No one has mention Wolverine yet?

if the FF had prep then they could beat SBP, but if the teams have no prep then they all go down hard, i mean not even all of these GL's attacking at once could beat SBP:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/44/Ic7.png

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
What's this? No one has mention Wolverine yet?


You beat me to it

ultimate nullifier?

Originally posted by galan7777777
not even all of these GL's attacking at once could beat SBP:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/44/Ic7.png

PISimus Maximus

Loki gets annoyed with SBP and sicks the Destroyer on him ...

Originally posted by Scoobless
PISimus Maximus

Loki gets annoyed with SBP and sicks the Destroyer on him ... and the destroyer is more powerful then all of those GL's and the other DC characters?

Are we including Thor in the Avengers. I would think Thor/Sentry could keep him distracted long enough to let RR devise a plan.

Originally posted by galan7777777
and the destroyer is more powerful then all of those GL's and the other DC characters?

It's powerful enough to kill SBP

Originally posted by galan7777777
and the destroyer is more powerful then all of those GL's and the other DC characters?
No and neither is SBP.

would squirell girl not beat SBP?

Would the ultimate nullifier really be necessary to stop Sbp?? Isn't that a bit much??

Originally posted by UniOmni
Would the ultimate nullifier really be necessary to stop Sbp?? Isn't that a bit much?? Agreed that taking it kinda far.

Originally posted by UniOmni
Would the ultimate nullifier really be necessary to stop Sbp?? Isn't that a bit much??
Considering a team like the Thunderbolts would tear SBP a new one? Yeah, it's a bit much.

Originally posted by Validus
Considering a team like the Thunderbolts would tear SBP a new one? Yeah, it's a bit much.

DAMMIT , teh Bolts cannot take down SBP he blitzed friggen flashes !

Originally posted by grey fox
DAMMIT , teh Bolts cannot take down SBP he blitzed friggen flashes !

Friggen? Wow.. Those fanboy's are really using some bad language these days

Of course he'd get his ass handed to him. And then he'd be killed (somehow) Because well IMO Marvel aren't above hypocrism

Originally posted by grey fox
DAMMIT , teh Bolts cannot take down SBP he blitzed friggen flashes ! Zemo is uber now.

SBP would go down HARD in the Marvel universe. Because unlike DC, Marvel wouldn't feel the need to make him seem unstoppable because he has an S on his chest. SBP freezing the GL's feat was pure BULLSH*T(seriously, that was as PIS as they come), and should bever even be taken into considration, unless your willing to say that Omega Iceman could do the same thing. SBP would undoubtedly take down many of the low tier heroes on whatever teams he faced, but if a few of the high tier's teamed up on him, that would be all she wrote.

Also, it would be helpful to have the roster of the Avangers, because that makes a LOT of difference here.

Originally posted by Big Sexy
Zemo is uber now.

Bah , All he's done is moved in time and killed Genis

Galactus pimp slaps the little f***er

Sentry would probably try and throw him in the Sun, resulting in lolness when SPB rips him in half. If he is somehow immune to magic then I don't see Thor or any magicians putting a dent in him. Post Crisis Superman is stronger or as powerful as Thor but pre-Crisis Supes which SBP is would one shot him.

If Sentry could stalemate Galactus, SBP could tear him apart. Sorry Marvel fanboys, but SBP represents the ridiculous DC power level of the silver age Superman. Unstoppable madness. Red sons have been the only thing to truly harm him so far.

Originally posted by jumpmann
Red sons have been the only thing to truly harm him so far.

Then the female Captain Marvel (or whatever she's calling herself these days) could take him down on her own

This takes place in the MU right? Meaning Marvel rules apply? Squirrel Girl puts him down hard...

Originally posted by grey fox
Bah , All he's done is moved in time and killed Genis
And defeated the Grandmaster.

Originally posted by jumpmann
Sentry would probably try and throw him in the Sun, resulting in lolness when SPB rips him in half. If he is somehow immune to magic then I don't see Thor or any magicians putting a dent in him. Post Crisis Superman is stronger or as powerful as Thor but pre-Crisis Supes which SBP is would one shot him.

If Sentry could stalemate Galactus, SBP could tear him apart. Sorry Marvel fanboys, but SBP represents the ridiculous DC power level of the silver age Superman. Unstoppable madness. Red sons have been the only thing to truly harm him so far.
SBP wasn't immune to magic. He just wasn't Vulnerable to it, like standard Supes. There's a BIG difference.

i would like to see SBP put a real hurting on thanos.

thanos: my shield is inpenetrable. >gasp< this cannot be!?????!

SBP puts on one of those dimension shattering punches on him, and ruins thanos's good looks :P

Originally posted by Solidus Snake


SBP puts on one of those dimension shattering punches on him, and ruins thanos's good looks :P

Hahaha!!!


btw- Magic won't work on SBP. Remenber when Black Adam confronted him? Didn't even dent his suit.

Also remember that Krypto bit through his shoulder... he aint that tough

Fool!

Krypto > Pants!

Originally posted by jumpmann
Sentry would probably try and throw him in the Sun, resulting in lolness when SPB rips him in half. If he is somehow immune to magic then I don't see Thor or any magicians putting a dent in him. Post Crisis Superman is stronger or as powerful as Thor but pre-Crisis Supes which SBP is would one shot him.

If Sentry could stalemate Galactus, SBP could tear him apart. Sorry Marvel fanboys, but SBP represents the ridiculous DC power level of the silver age Superman. Unstoppable madness. Red sons have been the only thing to truly harm him so far. Super...Boy...Prime...beating Galactus?
Ya, right!!
Plus, we have no proof, that Sentry did this, and even if he did Galactus would rip SBP in half.

Sentry in no way can take on 100% Galactus

Thats a joke

Maybe 5% Galactus, but everything above that is doubtful

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
This takes place in the MU right? Meaning Marvel rules apply? Squirrel Girl puts him down hard...

co-signed.....

Originally posted by Grimm22
Sentry in no way can take on 100% Galactus

Thats a joke

Maybe 5% Galactus, but everything above that is doubtful agreed, Sentry has no feats that would prove otherwise

Thor!

Originally posted by galan7777777
agreed, Sentry has no feats that would prove otherwise

But he has hair

HAIR!disguise

Classic Thor and BRB together would pound SBP into a bloody, unrecognisable, pulp

Originally posted by Grimm22
But he has hair

HAIR!disguise yeah but his hair is more like this mullet

Originally posted by Scoobless
Classic Thor and BRB together would pound SBP into a bloody, unrecognisable, pulp


yes yes....

3600 green lanterns > thor and brb

SBP would turn thor into his nordic blond serving wench, and make bill a donkey

it would last 2.5 panels.

SBP would get a nosebleed...tops

If the GL's wanted too they could kill current SBP

Originally posted by Solidus Snake
yes yes....

3600 green lanterns > thor and brb

SBP would turn thor into his nordic blond serving wench, and make bill a donkey

it would last 2.5 panels.

SBP would get a nosebleed...tops He didn't fight that many.
At tops he fought 40 or 50 low Gl's. Maybe a couple middle tier ones.
Plus, how does a GL get froze through his shield?

SBP is severly overrated, there are plenty of people in Marvel capable of taking him.

Originally posted by Solidus Snake
yes yes....

3600 green lanterns > thor and brb



He didn't fight that many and only killed 32 of them.

Originally posted by bigbran
He didn't fight that many.
At tops he fought 9 or 10 low Gl's. Maybe a a middle tier one.
Plus, how does a GL get froze through his shield?
Atleast 30 or so died, so there goes your credibility on that. And the number was irrelevant. They barely slowed him down. None of them actually did a dent of damage to him.

And he's Pre-Crisis Superman, he can freeze whatever the god damn **** he wants. The real mystery was how he breathed in space.

Originally posted by jumpmann
Atleast 30 or so died, so there goes your credibility on that. And the number was irrelevant. They barely slowed him down. None of them actually did a dent of damage to him.

And he's Pre-Crisis Superman, he can freeze whatever the god damn **** he wants. The real mystery was how he breathed in space. Maybe they go on Lobo logic. I still dont know how Lobo lights cigars in space.

Hal killed nearly as many GL's as Prime did (pre retcon). Even more impressive is that Hal actually killed big name Lanterns and not no name scrubs like Prime.

Originally posted by jumpmann
Atleast 30 or so died, so there goes your credibility on that. And the number was irrelevant. They barely slowed him down. None of them actually did a dent of damage to him.

And he's Pre-Crisis Superman, he can freeze whatever the god damn **** he wants. The real mystery was how he breathed in space. There goes my credibility?
I admit I was wrong, I edited it. The number was also irrelevent.
I was just proving you wrong, because you said he fought the whole corps. Good job, 'cept, I was a hell of a lot closer than you.
Now you go from him fighting the whole corps, to only killing 30. Good contridiction.
YOUR the one who said he could beat Galactus.

Dr Strange sends him to another dimension.

And he punches his way out of it. (Even Strange admitted he was unable to banish Hulk in the NA: Illuminati, and SBP>Hulk by far)


Originally posted by bigbran
There goes my credibility?
I admit I was wrong, I edited it. The number was also irrelevent.
I was just proving you wrong, because you said he fought the whole corps. Good job, 'cept, I was a hell of a lot closer than you.
Now you go from him fighting the whole corps, to only killing 30. Good contridiction.
YOUR the one who said he could beat Galactus.
Yeah find where I said he fought the whole corps. Debating tip #1, try not to make up what other people say.

And I said, "If Sentry could stalemate Galactus". It was said he'd done this in one of his minis and my implication was SBP completely overwhelms Sentry therefore it discredited certain Marvelites who think Sentry could take anyone.

Originally posted by jumpmann
And he punches his way out of it. (Even Strange admitted he was unable to banish Hulk in the NA: Illuminati, and SBP>Hulk by far)


Because Hulk was uber-angry. It's well known that Hulk is the strongest there is when he is really pissed.

Stalemating Galactus is an overrated feat. People act like Galactus has never been beaten.

^^Exactly. He's been beaten so many times by so many different teams and people that it's lost all meaning.

Even so, SBP punched out of a dimension and the Phantom Zone and got out of the Speed Force using his wits. It's well established that he "gets out of things".

Don't let it go to your head. Beating a bunch of nameless GLs at once is also pretty overrated.

Originally posted by jumpmann
And he punches his way out of it. (Even Strange admitted he was unable to banish Hulk in the NA: Illuminati, and SBP>Hulk by far) But he's able to beat people like In-Betweener?
Strange's showings fluctuate.



Originally posted by jumpmann
Yeah find where I said he fought the whole corps. Can't. I forgot who wrote it, and I thought you said it instead of Solidus Snake. Just couldn't be bothered to look back.
Originally posted by jumpmann
Debating tip #1, try not to make up what other people say. Please, don't tell me how to debate.

Originally posted by jumpmann
And I said, "If Sentry could stalemate Galactus". It was said he'd done this in one of his minis and my implication was SBP completely overwhelms Sentry therefore it discredited certain Marvelites who think Sentry could take anyone. I don't even believe he did this to Galactus.
What? We believe Spiderman? I'de rather see him do it, then to take Spiderman's word.
Plus, I don't think it's Marvel fans that say it, I think it's the ones that believe in the hype, and put him on skyfather levels, they also want to believe that he can beat Superman.

Now if, he did stalemate Galactus(no guarantees) he is definately not going to be "ripped in half" by SBP.
You call people who think he can beat everyone "Marvelites", but then you turn around and overate SBP.

Heres a question, do you think SBP can beat Galactus?

Originally posted by Accel
Stalemating Galactus is an overrated feat. People act like Galactus has never been beaten. Thor. I can explain this one. Galactus wasn't even fighting Thor.
FF4. They outsmarted him, numerous times.
Wolverine
etc.

But if we want to put Snetry at his stalemating Galactus levels. We would also have to put him at a In-Betweener level, and I don't think that's going to happen.

Originally posted by Validus
Hal killed nearly as many GL's as Prime did (pre retcon). Even more impressive is that Hal actually killed big name Lanterns and not no name scrubs like Prime.

Hal and Guy were among the GL's owned by Prime.

Hal saved Guy and then the 2 Supermen saved Hal.

No way SBP is taking on the MU and winning though.

Originally posted by bigbran
Thor. I can explain this one. Galactus wasn't even fighting Thor.
FF4. They outsmarted him, numerous times.
Wolverine
etc.

But if we want to put Snetry at his stalemating Galactus levels. We would also have to put him at a In-Betweener level, and I don't think that's going to happen.
Quasar also stalemated Galactus. On panel even. Want to put him at those levels as well?

That's what I was getting at. People can argue all day long that Sentry is on Superman level, but not even the most devote Marvel fanboys could say he's more powerful than Pre-Crisis Superman.


I never overrated SBP. His feats and Pre-Crisis Superman's speak for themselves.


Sure. Hell throw in a 100% Galactus and SBP might just zip to the other side of the universe and wait till his powers die down. He's got the patience now! Honestly, like previously mentioned by me and Accel, Galactus isn't all that. It's in his nature by to be beaten by everyone. He's even written that way!


Agreed. I think Barry Allen embarassed a lot of them once with speed, Hal of course wrecked them all; they aren't anything special. I never played SBP's feat of destroying a few of them as anything major, rather, implied the general GLC is simply under par in terms of power.

im sure those 30 GLS could have whupped thr and BRB

and thor and BRB couldnt beat them as fast as SBP did even if they could win

Originally posted by Solidus Snake
im sure those 30 GLS could have whupped thr and BRB

and thor and BRB couldnt beat them as fast as SBP did even if they could win
You mean if they just stood around like they did with SBP? Thor and BRB could probably pull of the same results in less amount of time under those circumstances.

i doubt...SBP was jsut too fast. i dont think thor can blitz like that. but i could be wrong.


can thor blitz at faster than light speeds?

Originally posted by jumpmann


Sure. Hell throw in a 100% Galactus and SBP might just zip to the other side of the universe and wait till his powers die down. He's got the patience now! Honestly, like previously mentioned by me and Accel, Galactus isn't all that. It's in his nature by to be beaten by everyone. He's even written that way!


SBP is not going to be beating Galactus.

There are three feats that make SBP really stand out.

He is resistant to Magic (as pointed out with Black Adam)

He manages to escape from the Speed Force.

It nearly took Hal and Guy to slow him down.

Question now is if the MU superheroes do capture him where would they lock him out? It takes One Sun Eater and 50 GL's guarding him. He's too unstable.

Everyone beats Galactus. He wouldn't be Galactus if we wasn't beaten by someone who supposedly way less powerful than him.

Originally posted by jumpmann
That's what I was getting at. People can argue all day long that Sentry is on Superman level, but not even the most devote Marvel fanboys could say he's more powerful than Pre-Crisis Superman. Why would they? But SBP wasn't PC Superman.



Originally posted by jumpmann
Sure. Hell throw in a 100% Galactus and SBP might just zip to the other side of the universe and wait till his powers die down. He's got the patience now! Honestly, like previously mentioned by me and Accel, Galactus isn't all that. It's in his nature by to be beaten by everyone. He's even written that way!Originally posted by jumpmann
I never overrated SBP. His feats and Pre-Crisis Superman's speak for themselves.

Full power Galactus would utterly blow him apart. There is nothing to suggest he could beat Galactus.(even in his jobbing)

Originally posted by Accel
Quasar also stalemated Galactus. On panel even. Want to put him at those levels as well? Nope, but Quaser has some amazing feats. Sentry, well... no wait!! Sentry has beaten Wolverine!
Plus, Quaser has also got wrecked by Surfer.

Originally posted by jumpmann
Everyone beats Galactus. He wouldn't be Galactus if we wasn't beaten by someone who supposedly way less powerful than him. That's because he's introduced in a story, so someone can whip him.
You want to take good showings of what Galactus should be, and then argue that SBP can beat him then?

From Wiki.

IC4 moments=indication it's PC Superman level powers.

Originally posted by Solidus Snake
i doubt...SBP was jsut too fast. i dont think thor can blitz like that. but i could be wrong.


can thor blitz at faster than light speeds?
They just stood around while he froze them to death with ice breath. Jobbing that hard, the GLC can probably be soloed by BRB.

Originally posted by Accel
They just stood around while he froze them to death with ice breath. Jobbing that hard, the GLC can probably be soloed by BRB.
Beta Ray Bill? I'd give Cloak and Dagger the majority on that portrayal of the GLC.

Originally posted by jumpmann
From Wiki.

IC4 moments=indication it's PC Superman level powers. We all know wiki, is quite a reliable source, now don't we?

You're an idiot.

Read IC4, the other source I mentioned.

You mean the pure pwnage of a 3rd rate Teen Titans squad?

He didn't take a scratch!

And the whole planet moving like chess pieces thing that went on in that issue.

Originally posted by jumpmann
You're an idiot.

Read IC4, the other source I mentioned. No, your the one quoting wiki, and calling people idiots in a simple discussion.
Originally posted by jumpmann
He didn't take a scratch!

And the whole planet moving like chess pieces thing that went on in that issue. Didn't he get knocked around by Superboy?

I was provoked by the unecessary rolleyes. If you don't take wiki's words, then take DC's and COIE's. Superman at that time was all powerful and he was a Clark Kent Superman which makes him no different.

And he got bumped by Superboy in issue 6(didn't you read it?). Superboy proceeded to die while SBP left without a stratch.

Originally posted by jumpmann
He didn't take a scratch!
That was a weak ass team man. Pantha? BABY Wildebeest? Wonder Woman can duplicate the ownage of that Titans team.

Originally posted by jumpmann
And the whole planet moving like chess pieces thing that went on in that issue.
Touche, impressive. Not as impressive as the real high level PC stuff though. SBP was impressive without getting into the realms of ridiculousness that was common place for the PC heros.

Originally posted by jumpmann
I was provoked by the unecessary rolleyes. You were provoked by a smilie?

Originally posted by jumpmann
If you don't take wiki's words, then take DC's and COIE's. Maybe if you brought that up instead of wiki. Bio's are ok, but wiki, is just bs.

Originally posted by jumpmann
Superman at that time was all powerful and he was a Clark Kent Superman which makes him no different. I'm sure that Superman was at his PC levels.

Originally posted by jumpmann
And he got bumped by Superboy in issue 6(didn't you read it?). Superboy proceeded to die while SBP left without a stratch. I read it, but you've persuaded me that I was wrong.
Yup, wrong.
http://img306.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scan00274tz.jpg
Oh, jeez, a bloody mouth, this goes against your "untouched" theories.
http://img364.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scan00317ad.jpg


Here is what happened when he was supposedly untouched.
http://img526.imageshack.us/my.php?image=139ex.jpg

IMO he would go down hard in the MU. The team I would use:
Reed Richards
Dr.Doom
Iron Man
Sentry
Magneto

Anyone of those could take hi out by themselves with ample time to prepare. Magneto could just rip him apart like he did Apoc in AoA. He may be the s**t in DC but in the MU he is just another alien. Even Professor X, Cassandra Nova, Jean Grey could take him out.

Stop making vague statements lol, debate lesson number 2(which you definitely need). Why wouldn't he be.

He didn't take a scratch against the 3rd rate Titans Squad. Is Krypto apart of the 3rd rate Titans squad? Verify that one for me.

And it looks like a bloody chin, all of which I was aware of. I have no idea where you are going with this.

Originally posted by jumpmann
Stop making vague statements lol, debate lesson number 2(which you definitely need). Why wouldn't he be. Lesson#1. Back up your statements. "Why wouldn't he be", is doing nothing for your case.
I said that that Superman wasn't a PC. Cause as far as I'm concerned, that Superman was depowered, and he never shown anything, to be on a PC level.
But if you are talking about Superboy(which I wouldn't know, because I said SUPERMAN), he has stood between redicules, and ok. SO I wouldn't consider him to be on the PC levels.

Originally posted by jumpmann
He didn't take a scratch against the 3rd rate Titans Squad. Is Krypto apart of the 3rd rate Titans squad? Verify that one for me. How about you prove your case here. You told me, that he didn't take a scratch, what did I get? Krypto biting him.
Now Krypto, fought him, when he fought Conner. Plus they fought him before the Teen Titans. (my memory might be foggy)

Plus, since you want to claim he didn't take a scratch ny the Teen Titans/Doom Patrol/Jsa.
Here he is, with a bleeding nose, jeez. He sure didn't have a scratch here.
http://img526.imageshack.us/my.php?image=191ac.jpg
And getting blown back.
http://img519.imageshack.us/my.php?image=201ri.jpg
Now, your "not a scratch argument", should be non existent.
Remember, your the one that called me the "idiot".

Originally posted by jumpmann
And it looks like a bloody chin, all of which I was aware of. I have no idea where you are going with this. Did you not see where he had blood coming out of his mouth?
Where I was going with this is that you claimed, for me to go and read the book, while you also claimed, that he didn't take a scratch in either match.

While, I have shown that to be false. That's all.

Yeah, for some reason you brought up that Superman wasn't at his PC levels, which came out of nowhere since I was talking about pre COIE Supermans.

And that nosebleed could easily be someone else's blood, maybe from his hands. Like rocks could hurt him lol. In any event, nosebleeds don't equals scratches lol.

And I'm not going to get into your next random argument since I know I said he got bumped by Superboy in IC6 and never said anything along the lines of he went untouched.

My point was always when the dust settled SBP came out unharmed and unphased. As he's taken into the speedforce he appears to have taken no damage, and in IC7 after the Superboy fight he's back to killing no names in top form.

Your points are going nowhere now. You can argue about how someone nicked SBP all you want but the end results signify how enormously powerful he is which is what I was trying to say all along. Go argue whether the earth is round or something. You are deterring the point of this thread.

Originally posted by jumpmann
Yeah, for some reason you brought up that Superman wasn't at his PC levels, which came out of nowhere since I was talking about pre COIE Supermans. Were you talking about Earth-2 Superman?

Originally posted by jumpmann
And that nosebleed could easily be someone else's blood, maybe from his hands. Basically, what your saying, is that he had someone else's blood, then he put it up his nose?
Sounds reasonable.
Originally posted by jumpmann
Like rocks could hurt him lol. It did, and now your one to hint that it was pis?
Originally posted by jumpmann
In any event, nosebleeds don't equals scratches lol. They don't? Well, when it's not being caused by picking it, they sure do, especially when he's in a fight.

Originally posted by jumpmann
And I'm not going to get into your next random argument since I know I said he got bumped by Superboy in IC6 and never said anything along the lines of he went untouched.
Originally posted by jumpmann
And he got bumped by Superboy in issue 6(didn't you read it?). Superboy proceeded to die while SBP left without a stratch.
I provided scans, that he did infact get "scratched".

Originally posted by jumpmann
My point was always when the dust settled SBP came out unharmed and unphased. That's your point now. Your first point was to try and prove that the GL feat wasn't pis.

Originally posted by jumpmann
As he's taken into the speedforce he appears to have taken no damage, He's getting forced back, and even gets trapped in there.
Originally posted by jumpmann
and in IC7 after the Superboy fight he's back to killing no names in top form. There's a big difference between no names, and people like Superman.
Even someone higher than Superman would get his ass kicked, by Superman, because he's what you implyed, A NO NAME!


Originally posted by jumpmann
Your points are going nowhere now.
No, there proving you wrong. You said he didn't get touched, well guess what, he did! There going nowhere because you can't really insult me anymore.
Originally posted by jumpmann
You can argue about how someone nicked SBP all you want I'm arguing about, him not being hurt.
I'm not argueing about him being nicked. The end result, he wasn't as invincible as you made him out to be.
Plus, he WAS overated, and still IS!!

Originally posted by jumpmann
but the end results signify how enormously powerful he is which is what I was trying to say all along.
Never said he wasn't powerful. But he would be snapped in half, by Galactus.
Originally posted by jumpmann
Go argue whether the earth is round or something. You are deterring the point of this thread.
Ok, then.
Sentry, Thor, Vision, Beta Ray Bill, Scarlet Witch, beats him.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf


Question now is if the MU superheroes do capture him where would they lock him out? It takes One Sun Eater and 50 GL's guarding him. He's too unstable.

Has to be the negative zone , New avengers #1/#2 kinda shows how well MU prisons do against superman level characters.

Whereas the N-zone has no actual sun...in-fact i think it even has a red sun.

SbP would kick marvels butt

Thanos Sentry Silversurfer
Thor Ikaris Sersi
Reed BRB King Hyperion
Wiccan Wanda Strange
Abyss Cloak Magneto
Count Nefaria

ITSA RAP

Originally posted by Validus
Beta Ray Bill? I'd give Cloak and Dagger the majority on that portrayal of the GLC.



So true

But, but, but... "he owned Hal Jordan".

Originally posted by outavodka
Thanos Sentry Silversurfer
Thor Ikaris Sersi
Reed BRB King Hyperion
Wiccan Wanda Strange
Abyss Cloak Magneto
Count Nefaria

ITSA RAP
Yeah and all these people meet up routinely.

Yup... SBP is no more powerful than Count Nefaria.... MU Earth would pwn him

i hate to break it to ppl but there is no such thing as low level GL's...what the f **** is wrong you you ppl? these guys go thru rigorous training sessions. and they have to complete thier "willworld" training, which all of them except kyle has done. sure some have more will/wits/h2h/imagination/fame than others but they still have to have a requisite amount of willpower and bravery to even be considered in the first damn place...

my only problem is that all of them stood around like idiots waiting to be killed. but the fact that he killed the first dozen without effort, and the rest after the GL's got really serious and really pissed, with equal ease pretty much lets you know that he's not to be trifled with, cuz the GL's are not to be trifled with, but they still went down hard...i know some of us here(nameless) refuse to accept that not only is there such a thing as pre-crsis kryptonians, but SBP is based on said silver age krpytonians, the fact still remains that any humanoid character in the MU, below a full powered galactus, or King Thor is gonna get horribly raped. im sorry thats just how it is

After SBP kills everyone in marvel...

SBP: Ha, I win!

*A bright light appears*

SBP: What? Who's that?

*Jack Kirby appears*

SBP: Stupid old man, i'll kill you!

Kirby: Oh really?

*Pulls the cigar out of his mouth and grabs the pencil behind his ear*

*Draws 1,000,000 Darkseids, who then appear around SBP*

Kirby: Don't mess with the King, *****

The only one i could think of was Thanos, but he's no earthling.

Originally posted by manjaro
i hate to break it to ppl but there is no such thing as low level GL's...what the f **** is wrong you you ppl? these guys go thru rigorous training sessions. and they have to complete thier "willworld" training, which all of them except kyle has done. sure some have more will/wits/h2h/imagination/fame than others but they still have to have a requisite amount of willpower and bravery to even be considered in the first damn place...

my only problem is that all of them stood around like idiots waiting to be killed. but the fact that he killed the first dozen without effort, and the rest after the GL's got really serious and really pissed, with equal ease pretty much lets you know that he's not to be trifled with, cuz the GL's are not to be trifled with, but they still went down hard...i know some of us here(nameless) refuse to accept that not only is there such a thing as pre-crsis kryptonians, but SBP is based on said silver age krpytonians, the fact still remains that any humanoid character in the MU, below a full powered galactus, or King Thor is gonna get horribly raped. im sorry thats just how it is
Galactus to King Thor is quite a range don't you think?

Meh , some random psychic tells SPB how he'll never get 'Super - laid' because his powers would cause him to rip the unlucky women in half.

SBP then goes back to his little hidey hole between dimensions and listens to MCR while trying to slit his wrists failing (once again) due to his powers.

The MU all watches this through Thors ability to see AYNTHING and laughs at SBP.

Pwned

Originally posted by Scoobless
Also remember that Krypto bit through his shoulder... he aint that tough

I thought Krypto was Pre crisis too http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krypto#The_dog_from_Krypton

brainiac created him

Looks like a spite thread to me, no magical or cosmic characters

Someone has a vendetta against MU

Earth could do it alone.

Thor, BRB and the Thunderbolts are enough.....

Originally posted by UniOmni
Earth could do it alone.

Thor, BRB and the Thunderbolts are enough..... I have been reading thunderbolts recently. Whats up with radioactive man, hes pretty uber. Hes can turn off almost everyones powers.

People on this forum always forget the unwritten rule that DC comic characters are written to be more godlike than their Marvel counterparts. I do not like that and feel that makes DC less interesting but it is what it is. SBP would win in the Marvel Universe and I hate to say that but because of how his character is written but it is just a fact. Yes, Marvel has their heavy hitters: Hulk, Thor, Gladiator, Thing, etc... but notice how MOST of Marvels strongest characters can not fly and only have their strength as their only power (except Thor or Gladiator). DC's powerhouses: Supes, Cap.Marvel, Martian Manhunter, Wonder Woman can all fly and have superspeed and other powers. I think that sucks, but that is just how DC has always written their characters. That is the only reason why SBP was a cool character FOR DC because he gives those heroes major problems due to their godlike powers. That is why I hate Superman. He is too powerful to be interesting. Even George Lucas said that without Kryptonite, the Superman character would not work. If it were up to me I would write a mini-series where SBP gets beaten by Marvel characters because I like Marvel better, but not exclusively. SBP would kill most of the Marvel heroes ONLY because he is written to be that way. After writing that I now must down a beer to take the taste of bile out of my mouth. If it were not for Wildcat, Nightwing, and the JSA I would not even be reading DC.

Originally posted by kenobi
People on this forum always forget the unwritten rule that DC comic characters are written to be more godlike than their Marvel counterparts. I do not like that and feel that makes DC less interesting but it is what it is. SBP would win in the Marvel Universe and I hate to say that but because of how his character is written but it is just a fact. Yes, Marvel has their heavy hitters: Hulk, Thor, Gladiator, Thing, etc... but notice how MOST of Marvels strongest characters can not fly and only have their strength as their only power (except Thor or Gladiator). DC's powerhouses: Supes, Cap.Marvel, Martian Manhunter, Wonder Woman can all fly and have superspeed and other powers. I think that sucks, but that is just how DC has always written their characters. That is the only reason why SBP was a cool character FOR DC because he gives those heroes major problems due to their godlike powers. That is why I hate Superman. He is too powerful to be interesting. Even George Lucas said that without Kryptonite, the Superman character would not work. If it were up to me I would write a mini-series where SBP gets beaten by Marvel characters because I like Marvel better, but not exclusively. SBP would kill most of the Marvel heroes ONLY because he is written to be that way. After writing that I now must down a beer to take the taste of bile out of my mouth. If it were not for Wildcat, Nightwing, and the JSA I would not even be reading DC. They also have Photon, Silver Surfer, Strange, Sentry, Bone claw Wolverine.

You basically listed the pussy characters. What is Thing even doing mentioned in this thread? All of those characters I mentioned are higher than the ones you mentioned. In the Marvel lineup.

I'd like to know how an emo kid like Superboy Prime would beat Genis Vell.

The Living Tribunal shows up and says "You don't belong here." then atomized SBP.

Quicksilver touches him and he explodes

Originally posted by Scoobless
PISimus Maximus

Loki gets annoyed with SBP and sicks the Destroyer on him ...

The Destroyer dies quite quickly, as i belive that King thor put a hole in him quite easilly. Super boy Primes feats are far more impressive than King Thors.

Originally posted by Scoobless
Classic Thor and BRB together would pound SBP into a bloody, unrecognisable, pulp

Bollocks !!!!!!!

nope

Originally posted by Scoobless
nope



How can u possibly justify that staement, other than the fact that you prefer marvel books to D.C. ones ?

Originally posted by UniOmni
Earth could do it alone.

Thor, BRB and the Thunderbolts are enough..... Agreed

Originally posted by Big Sexy
Agreed

I havent seen anything from Zemo to suggest that he is that much above Hal, Speed blitz and overall will power take this. It took the entire corpo to slow him down for christs sakes. Zemos the Plannets greatest hope, but he still only has human speed reactions. Surfer and Thor written to their full potentials (I.e. using their dimensional powers) may also have a chance, buts its still a slim one. Both hacve been KO'ed by beings considerably weaker than SBP.

Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
I havent seen anything from Zemo to suggest that he is that much above Hal, Speed blitz and overall will power take this. It took the entire corpo to slow him down for christs sakes. Zemos the Plannets greatest hope, but he still only has human speed reactions. Surfer and Thor written to their full potentials (I.e. using their dimensional powers) may also have a chance, buts its still a slim one. Both hacve been KO'ed by beings considerably weaker than SBP. How about Radioactive man turning off SPBs ability to absorb Yellow sunlight. Kinda a problem isn't it.

Originally posted by Big Sexy
How about Radioactive man turning off SPBs ability to absorb Yellow sunlight. Kinda a problem isn't it.

Yeah in theory, but considering the fact that SBP was thrown through the Heart of a Red Sun, and still strong enough to survive a re entry fall, i suspect it would take Radioactive mans limited absorbing powers an Immense amount of time to absorb the necessary amounts of energy. An d considering that SBP has a suit that is specifically designed to absorb Sunlight at a considerably fast rate.

Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
How can u possibly justify that staement, other than the fact that you prefer marvel books to D.C. ones ?

Superboy hurt SBP just by punching him... Thor and BRB are much stronger/more powerful and are both far better fighters than Superboy

Originally posted by Scoobless
Suprboy hurt Spuderboy Prime just by punching him... Thor and BRB are much stronger/more powerful and are both far better fighters than Superboy

I cant rememberer him EVA EVA actually hurting him, I consider Black Adam to be at least as strong as Thor and Bill if not stronger and none of his punches did anything. He had to be literally dragged through the heart of a Red sun b4 any internal/visible injury was caused. I don't even want to imagine what a punch with the strength SBP would do to Thor or Bill.

Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
Yeah in theory, but considering the fact that SBP was thrown through the Heart of a Red Sun, and still strong enough to survive a re entry fall, i suspect it would take Radioactive mans limited absorbing powers an Immense amount of time to absorb the necessary amounts of energy. An d considering that SBP has a suit that is specifically designed to absorb Sunlight at a considerably fast rate. I understand that but he can also turn off the ability without actually doing it to the suit. The suit would be useless if his body cant store the solar radiation for powers. Similar to what he did to Hyperion. He doesn't just absorb the power, he can turn off the other persons ability to use the power. An ex wiuld be the hulk. He could turn off Hulks power to channel Gamma radiation making him powerless

How about Wanda?

Originally posted by Big Sexy
I understand that but he can also turn off the ability without actually doing it to the suit. The suit would be useless if his body cant store the solar radiation for powers. Similar to what he did to Hyperion. He doesn't just absorb the power, he can turn off the other persons ability to use the power.

No he sent a specific wave length at Hyperion that was dangerous to him, i.e. like Kryptonite radiation is to Supes. We've yet to see if there is anyform of radiation that can harm SBP. The absorption process would like trying to empty the ocean with a bucket.

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
How about Wanda?

She on the other hand wins , quite easilly. I.e. she gives him cancer b4 he gained his powers/destroys his world b4 he get involved in the original crisis etec.

Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
The absorption process would like trying to empty the ocean with a bucket.

Not if Thor and BRB used their hammers to help absorb that radiation... that's be more like emptying a bucket by tipping it upside down

Originally posted by Scoobless
Not if Thor and BRB used their hammers to help absorb that radiation... that's be more like emptying a bucket by tipping it upside down



Maybe, but i've only ever seen the absorbtion technique deployed against the Presence (A character whose energies levels are like a fire cracker to a nuke compared to SBP.) They die long b4 they have a chance to absorb all his energy.

Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
Maybe, but i've only ever seen the absorbtion technique deployed against the Presence (A character whose energies levels are like a fire cracker to a nuke compared to SBP.) They die long b4 they have a chance to absorb all his energy. Um yeah a character who fought a group of retarded GLS using none of their upper abilities and was taken down by two supermen. I would wager Thor and BRB do live that long

Originally posted by Big Sexy
Um yeah a character who fought a group of retarded GLS using none of their upper abilities and was taken down by two supermen. I would wager Thor and BRB do live that long

If one is going to make an argument its a good idea to state some factual premises to back up ones conclusion. You're point is mute, as you are comparing two characters who not only inferior to KAL L and KAL El in strength and Speed, you have missed the most important fact that its was literally a 'back stab'. KAL l and Kal had to catch Prime off guard and then hurl him through a reed Sun b4 any harm was inflicted.

Back to the other point, don't forget that a G.L.'s abilities is based on Will power, if i was a bout to face a Kryptonian who could literally end the universe with a single attack, who was known to have moved Worlds like chess pieces, i would hardly be in the Prime of confidence. No wonder they weren't at their best, they where probably Shitting their pants.

Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
if i was a bout to face a Kryptonian who could literally end the universe with a single attack, who was known to have moved Worlds like chess pieces, i would hardly be in the Prime of confidence. No wonder they weren't at their best, they where probably Shitting their pants.

Gardner doesn't do fear, he's up for a rematch anytime!

Originally posted by Scoobless
Gardner doesn't do fear, he's up for a rematch anytime!



And he doesn't usually fare wel against Kryptonians. I mean Doomsday whent through him like a knife through butter. hifty:

Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
I havent seen anything from Zemo to suggest that he is that much above Hal, Speed blitz and overall will power take this. It took the entire corpo to slow him down for christs sakes. Zemos the Plannets greatest hope, but he still only has human speed reactions. Surfer and Thor written to their full potentials (I.e. using their dimensional powers) may also have a chance, buts its still a slim one. Both hacve been KO'ed by beings considerably weaker than SBP.
If the GLC were written to their full potential, SBP wouldn't have been more than a nuisance.

Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
If one is going to make an argument its a good idea to state some factual premises to back up ones conclusion. You're point is mute, as you are comparing two characters who not only inferior to KAL L and KAL El in strength and Speed, you have missed the most important fact that its was literally a 'back stab'. KAL l and Kal had to catch Prime off guard and then hurl him through a reed Sun b4 any harm was inflicted.

Back to the other point, don't forget that a G.L.'s abilities is based on Will power, if i was a bout to face a Kryptonian who could literally end the universe with a single attack, who was known to have moved Worlds like chess pieces, i would hardly be in the Prime of confidence. No wonder they weren't at their best, they where probably Shitting their pants. Inferior hardly is the term when you have two combatants that have walking plot devices in their hands. God force blasts, turning off Powers are all in Thors arsenal. Zemo is another problem when you consider that fact that he can look through probabilities and base his chances on possible future outcomes that he has seen. Not to mention pulling a genis and trapping him in different moments in time. Reed is another problem altogether.

Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
And he doesn't usually fare wel against Kryptonians. I mean Doomsday whent through him like a knife through butter. hifty:

Pffft.... If Guy was written properly that never would have happened... He attacked DD with his face for god's sake




And this is how you do a shifty ...

Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
I cant rememberer him EVA EVA actually hurting him, So punching him around, and making his mouth bleed? Isn't hurting him?

Originally posted by bigbran
So punching him around, and making his mouth bleed? Isn't hurting him?

That was Panthera's blood, because just in case you forgot, he demolished her face. I don't know if you know this or not, but when someones head explodes from blunt force trauma (expecially from a reality warping fist) there tends to be blood splatter. Also, you most likely never took into account the fact that on the same page he blasted someone in half. So if it was not Panthera's blood, then it was certainly whoever's blood who he blasted in half.

If the explosion of a human head from blunt trauma can cause so much blood, then imagine how much blood a human body being blasted in half would cause. So no, that was no more Superboy Prime's blood then it would be Wolverine's blood after he's cut someone in half.

Originally posted by Sirius77
That was Panthera's blood, because just in case you forgot, he demolished her face. I don't know if you know this or not, but when someones head explodes from blunt force trauma (expecially from a reality warping fist) there tends to be blood splatter. Also, you most likely never took into account the fact that on the same page he blasted someone in half. So if it was not Panthera's blood, then it was certainly whoever's blood who he blasted in half.

If the explosion of a human head from blunt trauma can cause so much blood, then imagine how much blood a human body being blasted in half would cause. So no, that was no more Superboy Prime's blood then it would be Wolverine's blood after he's cut someone in half. Jepers. You have no idea what I'm talking about.
Originally posted by bigbran

I read it, but you've persuaded me that I was wrong.
Yup, wrong.
http://img306.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scan00274tz.jpg
Oh, jeez, a bloody mouth, this goes against your "untouched" theories.
http://img364.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scan00317ad.jpg


Here is what happened when he was supposedly untouched.
http://img526.imageshack.us/my.php?image=139ex.jpg

As far as the bloody mouth theory goes, he could have just bitten his own tongue from the impact of the punch, after all it stands to reason that he would not be invulnerable to his own teeth.

The Krypto example is questionable. Krypto is a character whose limits have not been fully explored, also taking into account that Krypto was based off of the Pre-Crisis version, which would explain his ability to penetrate Superboy Prime's skin.

Originally posted by Sirius77
As far as the bloody mouth theory goes, he could have just bitten his own tongue from the impact of the punch, after all it stands to reason that he would not be invulnerable to his own teeth.
What about the part about being knocked around?
Plus, I think when you bite your own toungue, it's not very easy to talk, right after.
Originally posted by Sirius77
The Krypto example is questionable. Krypto is a character whose limits have not been fully explored, also taking into account that Krypto was based off of the Pre-Crisis version, which would explain his ability to penetrate Superboy Prime's skin. He still bit him.

Originally posted by bigbran
What about the part about being knocked around?
Plus, I think when you bite your own toungue, it's not very easy to talk, right after.
He still bit him.

Your not automatically struck mute because you bite your tongue, and even if it was that bad, you forgot about Superman's healing factor. And if Superman has a healing factor that powerful, then Superboy-Prime has an even better one. So it makes sense that he would be able to talk so quickly after biting his tongue so hard, it may have not been completely healed, but it was close I'm sure.



I never said that he didn't bite him, my statement was in favor of the fact that he did bite him and why he was able to do so.

People please, those GL's got their asses kicked . Accept it. Full potential is NEVER used in comics , otherwise animal man and vixen would be killing People with ease and Aquman would own the x-men with a click of his fingers.

If SBP is in the MU, he would be a tool being manipulated by Zemo. The GL's were DUMBED down in IC to make SBP seem formidable.

Originally posted by Sirius77
That was Panthera's blood, because just in case you forgot, he demolished her face. I don't know if you know this or not, but when someones head explodes from blunt force trauma (expecially from a reality warping fist) there tends to be blood splatter.

http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/2200/scan00317ad.th.jpg

There is no chance that that is somone else's blood!

Originally posted by bigbran
I think when you bite your own toungue, it's not very easy to talk, right after.

And with that much blood.... he'd have to have bitten his tongue clean off

Originally posted by bigbran
What about the part about being knocked around?
Plus, I think when you bite your own toungue, it's not very easy to talk, right after.


Being 'Knocked around' Hardly equates to anything. When a character who can potentially lifts mountains strikes a being weighing less than 200lbs its not hard to belive there will be a little movement. The point is there is no way that Conner is as strong as Black Adam, and his punches did next to nothing. Based on the assumption that Adam is equal in strength to Billy (Who i beilive to be stronger to both thor and BRB), its not hard to see why i think Thor and Bill would be littel more than 'Cannon fodder' to SBP. Also one strike from a person with Primes strength, is going to seriously mess up Thor, who has yet show he has Conners durability.

Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
Being 'Knocked around' Hardly equates to anything. When a character who can potentially lifts mountains strikes a being weighing less than 200lbs its not hard to belive there will be a little movement. The point is there is no way that Conner is as strong as Black Adam, and his punches did next to nothing. Based on the assumption that Adam is equal in strength to Billy (Who i beilive to be stronger to both thor and BRB), its not hard to see why i think Thor and Bill would be littel more than 'Cannon fodder' to SBP. Also one strike from a person with Primes strength, is going to seriously mess up Thor, who has yet show he has Conners durability. Did you just say thor doesn't have conners durabilityjawdrop

Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
Based on the assumption that Adam is equal in strength to Billy (Who i beilive to be stronger to both thor and BRB),

A lot of people don't agree with your belief, I haven't seen any Cap Marvel/BA feats that would put them above Thor/BRB

Originally posted by Big Sexy
Did you just say thor doesn't have conners durabilityjawdrop

Conner towards the end of his reign, was becoming pretty powerful. This scan comes to mind

Its shows the Eradicator throwing a very large piece of ice at both Supes and Conner, which caused a 6.5 on the Rihcter scale. Neither where hurt in the slightest.

Connor really has yet to show he's even as durable as Thor.

Originally posted by Scoobless
A lot of people
As in the members who regularly post on the 'I Hate Superman thread' ?


Originally posted by Scoobless
don't agree with your belief, I haven't seen any Cap Marvel/BA feats that would put them above Thor/BRB

Scans have shown Marvel equallying Kal El in an arm wrestle and i consider him to be a Lot stronger than Thor.

Apart from the Midguard Serpent (Which for all we know weighs the same as a 14 inch 'Weener') Thors lifting feats are FAR and few between. He has yet to show he is much beyond the level set by Hercules when he 'Dragged' Manhattan with a 'big chain'. IMO this sets him on the mountain moving level (I.e. a really big mountain, but a mountain none the less). Supes has demonstrated on various ocassions since the Morisson era, that he is FAR beyond the mountain moving level. And SBP is even FAR beyond KAL EL level.

Originally posted by Accel
Connor really has yet to show he's even as durable as Thor.

And what has Thor done to show he can EASILY survive the energy released by a 6.5 Richter scale Earthquake. Its funny how he was being floored by Nukes (which release a lot less energy than medium sized earthquakes), when he was in his more power King Thor incarnation.

Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
And what has Thor done to show he can EASILY survive the energy released by a 6.5 Richter scale Earthquake. Its funny how he was being floored by Nukes (which release a lot less energy than medium sized earthquakes), when he was in his more power King Thor incarnation.
He's taken a the force of a planet-destroying bomb before. IIRC he's also taken attacks from the likes of Surtur and Exitar and gotten right back up.

Originally posted by Accel
He's taken a the force of a planet-destroying bomb before. IIRC he's also taken attacks from the likes of

He's been floored by nukes and exploding land mines

Originally posted by Accel
IIRC he's also taken attacks from the likes of Surtur and Exitar and gotten right back up.

So has Loki and Suzanne Richards, and hes been Floored by the Thing and Iron man

When it comes to Durability, thor is one of the most inconsistent around.

Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
As in the members who regularly post on the 'I Hate Superman thread' ?

I sometimes think that you have a strange fanboy love for all things Kryptonian

Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
He's been floored by nukes and exploding land mines
And Connor has been injured by Batgirl.
Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
So has Loki and Suzanne Richards, and hes been Floored by the Thing and Iron man
Sue taking attacks from Exitar and Surtur? No, I don't believe that's ever happened. Besides, Wonder Girl seemed to do better against SBP than Black Adam. What would that mean?
Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
When it comes to Durability, thor is one of the most inconsistent around.
So is every one else. Wonder Woman has been knocked out by a bullet before, but shrugged off a punch from Superman that sent her flying all the way from the Sun to Earth.

It'll take merely Surfer, Thor, BRB, Stardust and Zemo to stop Prime.

This without resorting to a red sun.

Surfer opens a blackhole, and Stardust and the rest blast Prime into it.

They keep blasting him, and eventually he gets dazed and reduced to subatomic dust.

Originally posted by Accel
Sue taking attacks from Exitar and Surtur? No, I don;t believe that's ever happened.


Sue has taken hits from another Celstial, Loki has survived a run in with Surtur.

Originally posted by Accel
Besides, Wonder Girl seemed to do better agaiinst SBP than Black Adam. What would that mean?

May have done better, but she didn't exactly hurt him .... u are clutching at straws my friend. Its clear that G.J's intentions where to make SBP and unstoppable killing machine, which illustrated during the fight against the G.L. corp and KAl el and KAl L later on.


Originally posted by Accel
So is every one else. Wonder Woman has been knocked out by a bullet before, but shrugged off a oucnh from Superman that sent her flying all the way from the Sun to Earth.

No it koed her, for a least 8 mins.