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in a match of strength... who wins ?

both.. are very pissed.....

both... have absolutly .. the WILL.. to win this...


who "survives" ?

Classic Juggernaut. Easily.

He grabs the rope and just starts walking in the opposite direction...

i believe.. you have forgotten .. that Hercules pulled the whole island of Manhattan..... so... he has a good chance.... to beat the Juggernaut in this kind of a match...

Hercules is .. physically.... more powerful.. (at least equal) than Juggernaut

classic juggernaut ftw

Doesn't matter if Hercules can pull an entire mountain IMO, classic Juggs cannot be stopped once he is in motion, there really is no way to argue against that.

Juggs FTW!

Hes like a duracell rabbit.

Dinkus Mayhem said: Juggernaut cannot be stopped...

my friend.. you are WRONG.... all the way...

Hulk.. HAS STOPPED the Classic Juggernaut
even Spiderman.. found a way.. to STOP the Classic Juggernaut
X-Men... HAD STOPPED... the Juggernaut

and the list goes on an on .. and on...

again.... a guy.. who held the world on his shoulders.. who pulled billion of tons behind him.....

SUCH A GUY... perhaps... is UNSTOPPABLE (ok... we know.. that also Herc is not unstoppable..)

you are all little "Juggy-Teenie-fans"....

chico.....listen ... to ME.....

Juggernaut was stopped before...

and he will be stopped... in these kind of a match.... by the Prince of Power... Zeus`son...... IMMORTAL HERCULES

pasta..

I am not much of a Juggs fan there pal, but based on everything I know about Juggernaut he wouldn't lose to Hercules in a tug of war.

Even if strength is almost equal, there is a difference in stamina. Classic Juggernaut is listed as having unlimited stamina, where as Hercules does have great stamina but it has never been shown to be unlimited.

You're calling people Juggernaut fanboys..? Krhm..

edit

Juggernaut has lost a physical battle before...lets not match overzealous to one character with another.

That being said, i do give the win to Juggernaut. Unless Hercules somehow makes him trip to the floor when he tries to move the other way.

Beyond letting go of the rope he wouldn't have any options to force Juggs to trip that I can see, and if he does that he loses anyway.

NO....... so guys... i will explain it to you... in an easy way:

look at:
http://www.immortalthor.net/
the Hercules and Juggernaut stats....

strength:
Juggy: Superhuman Class 90 .. (in my opinion... 100tons)
Herc: INCALCULABLE

stamina:
Juggy: IMMEASURABLE
Herc. godlike...

so... in a match.. of strength.... HOW in hell.... would Juggernaut will win this one ?

when he fights a

stronger
more versatile
in my opinion... a little bit smarter
faster

guy.... like Hercules ?

there is NO WAY..... and all you Juggy-fans outthere....

you have to ACCEPT... that "your" Juggernaut ISNT unstoppable...

an in a tug of war...

he would loose against a superior beeing like... HERCULES

that are the facts... has nothing to do with Herc Fan or not...

Dinkus Mayhem wrote:
I am not much of a Juggs fan there pal, but based on everything I know about Juggernaut he wouldn't lose to Hercules in a tug of war.

you know TOO LESS about Juggernaut.... and Hercules.... ! ! !

Originally posted by Betageuze
NO....... so guys... i will explain it to you... in an easy way:

look at:
http://www.immortalthor.net/
the Hercules and Juggernaut stats....

strength:
Juggy: Superhuman Class 90 .. (in my opinion... 100tons)
Herc: INCALCULABLE

stamina:
Juggy: IMMEASURABLE
Herc. godlike...

so... in a match.. of strength.... HOW in hell.... would Juggernaut will win this one ?

when he fights a

stronger
more versatile
in my opinion... a little bit smarter
faster

guy.... like Hercules ?

there is NO WAY..... and all you Juggy-fans outthere....

you have to ACCEPT... that "your" Juggernaut ISNT unstoppable...

an in a tug of war...

he would loose against a superior beeing like... HERCULES

that are the facts... has nothing to do with Herc Fan or not...
When thor stopped juggernaut with the godforce blast that was magic juggernaut is weak against magic and war hulk only stopped juggernaut because he was using other dimensional powers to stop him and NO FORCE ON EARTH CAN STOP HIM both forces are not from Earth

Originally posted by Betageuze
Dinkus Mayhem wrote:
I am not much of a Juggs fan there pal, but based on everything I know about Juggernaut he wouldn't lose to Hercules in a tug of war.

you know TOO LESS about Juggernaut.... and Hercules.... ! ! !

It would be nice if people around here focused on shredding arguments instead of trying to shred the people posting them. When you try to insult people instead of posting the proof of your convictions it just shows that you really have nothing important to say, and that you cannot back up your beliefs with facts.

Hercules and Betageuze FTL.

Originally posted by Dinkus Mayhem
Beyond letting go of the rope he wouldn't have any options to force Juggs to trip that I can see, and if he does that he loses anyway.
I was being sarcastic.

Originally posted by Betageuze
NO....... so guys... i will explain it to you... in an easy way:

look at:
http://www.immortalthor.net/
the Hercules and Juggernaut stats....

strength:
Juggy: Superhuman Class 90 .. (in my opinion... 100tons)
Herc: INCALCULABLE

stamina:
Juggy: IMMEASURABLE
Herc. godlike...

so... in a match.. of strength.... HOW in hell.... would Juggernaut will win this one ?

when he fights a

stronger
more versatile
in my opinion... a little bit smarter
faster

guy.... like Hercules ?

there is NO WAY..... and all you Juggy-fans outthere....

you have to ACCEPT... that "your" Juggernaut ISNT unstoppable...

an in a tug of war...

he would loose against a superior beeing like... HERCULES

that are the facts... has nothing to do with Herc Fan or not...
Sir, your not even using facts. Your giving an opinion.

Classic Juggernaut was never "cl 90". That difference was well set on stone during his figth with Captain Britain.

Hes "cl 100". Or like i prefer to call it, high class tier. Just like Herc. Wherever pll think one or the other have an edge in strength isent much of a big deal here, its more the motion and stamina thing.

juggernaut666666.....


(normal) HULK .. has STOPPED the Juggernaut before......

IF Juggernaut would be UNSTOPPABLE... when he moves on

WHY Hulk has knocked him off his feet.
WHY Nimrod.. has beaten him
WHY the X-Men .. has beaten him
WHY ... he was STOPPED... by Spiderman.. when he got into wet cement....

there are MANY ways... to STOP the "unstoppable" foe ...

and a lot of individuals (and teams) had proved that in the past

my understanding of a UNSTOPPABLE guy... IF he moves on.. is...
that he CANNOT BE stopped... CANNOT put down....

so....
how many (terrastial) guys.. has proved that ?????????



YOUR "THEORIE" OF THE UNSTOPPABLE JUGGERNAUT.... DOES NOT PERSIST......

sorry...

Originally posted by Betageuze
NO....... so guys... i will explain it to you... in an easy way:

look at:
http://www.immortalthor.net/
the Hercules and Juggernaut stats....

strength:
Juggy: Superhuman Class 90 .. (in my opinion... 100tons)
Herc: INCALCULABLE

stamina:
Juggy: IMMEASURABLE
Herc. godlike...

so... in a match.. of strength.... HOW in hell.... would Juggernaut will win this one ?

when he fights a

stronger
more versatile
in my opinion... a little bit smarter
faster

guy.... like Hercules ?

there is NO WAY..... and all you Juggy-fans outthere....

you have to ACCEPT... that "your" Juggernaut ISNT unstoppable...

an in a tug of war...

he would loose against a superior beeing like... HERCULES

that are the facts... has nothing to do with Herc Fan or not...


No, just no.

Originally posted by Betageuze
juggernaut666666.....


(normal) HULK .. has STOPPED the Juggernaut before......

IF Juggernaut would be UNSTOPPABLE... when he moves on

WHY Hulk has knocked him off his feet.
WHY Nimrod.. has beaten him
WHY the X-Men .. has beaten him
WHY ... he was STOPPED... by Spiderman.. when he got into wet cement....

there are MANY ways... to STOP the "unstoppable" foe ...

and a lot of individuals (and teams) had proved that in the past

my understanding of a UNSTOPPABLE guy... IF he moves on.. is...
that he CANNOT BE stopped... CANNOT put down....

so....
how many (terrastial) guys.. has proved that ?????????



YOUR "THEORIE" OF THE UNSTOPPABLE JUGGERNAUT.... DOES NOT PERSIST......

sorry...
Do you realise that you are trying to bring up false facts???

apolloknight... its easy to say.. only.... "no".. isnt it ?... without explaining WHY...

Because those facts are false .......maybe

thats the TRUTH Juggernaut66666.....

UNSTOPPABLE is..... UNSTOPPABLE..... right ?

if he was knocked down.. by so many guys .. before....

is he still UNSTOPPABLE ?

perhaps.. he was unstoppable.... when Cain Marko "transmitted" into Juggernaut..... but only for the time... until he was stopped by stronger guys like Gladiator or Hulk

have you seen .. what Gladiator DONE to Juggernaut.. ???

That was a cartoon

if it was a cartoon... which i doubt....

Gladiator could do this to Classic Juggernaut.... AGAIN.. and.. in Comics...

SPIDERMAN.. has STOPPED the Juggernaut

with
BRAIN ... and .. POWER (although his tries of power-feats... didnt work....)

so he could do the same with herc or hulk cause non of them has reflexes that are fast enough to match gladiator's speed but the chest punch stuff would make gladiator shit in his pants

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Do you realise that you are trying to bring up false facts???
Actually, why are they false?

Your not going to really tell me, he never lost or was stopped on its tracks even if it wasent in a direct manner?

That would make your argument with Beta, really ironic.

Originally posted by Betageuze
apolloknight... its easy to say.. only.... "no".. isnt it ?... without explaining WHY...

Its even easier to give falsified information, or tell lies, as some would call it.

Why should I waste my time with one such as you, who doesn't realize what a Juggernaut written to his full potential could do.

Originally posted by Betageuze
SPIDERMAN.. has STOPPED the Juggernaut

with
BRAIN ... and .. POWER (although his tries of power-feats... didnt work....)
just show me a scan of spider-man stopping juggernaut or savage hulk stopping juggernaut

Hercules .. is STRONGER (look at the Facts.... )

so .. Hercules would win the tug-of-war...

not in seconds... anhow.. Juggernaut .. is a beast.. no question

but because of the superior strength of Hercules... he would win this...

i know... you juggernaut-freaks outthere dont like that...

but that are only the facts...

Want a scan of Prof Hulk beating Jugs down?

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
just show me a scan of spider-man stopping juggernaut or savage hulk stopping juggernaut


We'll be waiting for awhile.

Nimrod vs Juggernaut was recent, and the Juggernaut in that fight was not the classic version.

That example is clearly irrelevant and misleading for this fight.

Originally posted by olympian
Actually, why are they false?

Your not going to really tell me, he never lost or was stopped on its tracks even if it wasent in a direct manner?

That would make your argument with Beta, really ironic.
since when did savage hulk stop juggernaut or nimrod beat him phisically ?

Originally posted by olympian
Want a scan of Prof Hulk beating Jugs down?
Yeah sure with a psichical backslash

Originally posted by Apolloknight
Its even easier to give falsified information, or tell lies, as some would call it.

Why should I waste my time with one such as you, who doesn't realize what a Juggernaut written to his full potential could do.

Oh brother. " you dont realize what my character can do at full potentiallll". Thats so fanboysm that it hurts.

Originally posted by Betageuze
Hercules .. is STRONGER (look at the Facts.... )

so .. Hercules would win the tug-of-war...

not in seconds... anhow.. Juggernaut .. is a beast.. no question

but because of the superior strength of Hercules... he would win this...

i know... you juggernaut-freaks outthere dont like that...

but that are only the facts...


Instead of giving your opinion of how herc is so much stronger, show me proof, scans, some truth to your claims, then I might take you seriously.

Originally posted by olympian
Originally posted by Apolloknight



Really now, please explain to me how it is fanboyisum, I would really like to hear this.

juggernaut66666.... my friend......

who was puted into wet cement.. in Amazing spiderman 229+230 ????

and Spiderman.. DID this.. on his OWN.. ok.. not only with his (limited) physical powererfforts... but with his BRAIN

at the end of the story.... for THE TIME .. of THAT story

Juggernaut was stopped ?

RIGHT or FALSE ?

juggernaut digged out himself from the cement and since when is the cement a part of spiderman

Originally posted by Apolloknight
Its even easier to give falsified information, or tell lies, as some would call it.

Why should I waste my time with one such as you, who doesn't realize what a Juggernaut written to his full potential could do.

"you cant realize what my character at full potential can do!!" You sure you cant tell WHY its fanboysm? Maybe because you deny the bad showings the charater you like had, in order to make him better than he is?

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Yeah sure with a psichical backslash

No sir. Jugs was down before the backlash.

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
since when did savage hulk stop juggernaut or nimrod beat him phisically ?

http://img138.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hrpage146hz.jpg

http://img256.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hrpage167ou.jpg

http://img138.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hrpage177nx.jpg

to juggernaut6666:

in the fight.... when Hulk want to save the guy... when Juggernaut... wanted to hurt this car-driver (and i believe his wife)

HOW often...... was Juggernaut in this match... KNOCKED down?

and we talk about the meaning of .. UNSTOPPABLE

who walked away..... from the battlefield..... wasnt it the Hulk ????

ok..
nobody knows......what could happened.. if not the X-men appeared
but... they appeared...


right ?

No scans huh?

I will also point out this again....

Originally posted by Dinkus Mayhem
Nimrod vs Juggernaut was recent, and the Juggernaut in that fight was not the classic version.

That example is clearly irrelevant and misleading for this fight.

You are either taking your info from wiki and using it out of context, or you are simply lying.

Originally posted by Betageuze
juggernaut66666.... my friend......

who was puted into wet cement.. in Amazing spiderman 229+230 ????

and Spiderman.. DID this.. on his OWN.. ok.. not only with his (limited) physical powererfforts... but with his BRAIN

at the end of the story.... for THE TIME .. of THAT story

Juggernaut was stopped ?

RIGHT or FALSE ?

So let me get this straight, Juggernaut withstands a class 50 punch from rouge without bugging, he took on the god force blast, pushed War 3 back for over a mile, smacks around Thor like a rag doll, Was going to punch his way out of a cocoon of solid steel before Thor teleports him away, has a capability of sending people into orbit, knocks Cap B for over a mile......etc etc etc....

Yet for some reason, some genius writer decides to have him stopped by cement.

Yeah, PIS.

You mean this fight?
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/2625/1ra0.th.jpg
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/9584/2vk6.th.jpg
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/1043/3ie6.th.jpg

yes juggernaut6666... i mean this fight...

but please ...
answer my question......

and realize... we are talking about... characters.... WITHIN .. the limits.. of their issues.. they appear.....

Did SPIDERMAN .. stopped the JUGGERNAUT... when he has gone for the search of Madame Web.... ???

hey.... if SPIDERMAN.... can STOP the Juggernaut... by his own....(ok .. i dont wanna see.. ho spiderman did... in a fight... WITHOUT.... the "weapons" he... had... but so.. was THAT fight)


did spiderman stopped Juggy ????

yes or no ?

and i mean.... within the 229+230 ... ???

Originally posted by Apolloknight
Its even easier to give falsified information, or tell lies, as some would call it.

Why should I waste my time with one such as you, who doesn't realize what a Juggernaut written to his full potential could do.

"you cant realize what my character at full potential can do!!" You sure you cant tell WHY its fanboysm? Maybe because you deny the bad showings the charater you like had, in order to make him better than he is?

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Yeah sure with a psichical backslash

No sir. Jugs was down before the backlash.

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
since when did savage hulk stop juggernaut or nimrod beat him phisically ?

http://img138.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hrpage146hz.jpg

http://img256.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hrpage167ou.jpg

http://img138.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hrpage177nx.jpg


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So hes never been physically hurt?

No he didn't he out smarted him and made him step into wet cement juugernaut can't walk on the surface of fluid things

Originally posted by olympian
"you cant realize what my character at full potential can do!!" You sure you cant tell WHY its fanboysm? Maybe because you deny the bad showings the charater you like had, in order to make him better than he is?



No sir. Jugs was down before the backlash.






Oh man, I love it when people do this, put words into other peoples post that don't exist.

I think I said you don't realize what a well written Juggernaut can do? I think thats what I said, nope I'm sure thats what I said, I would quote myself but for some reason you already quoted me, yet you still rewrote my sentence, How funny?

A well written Juggernaut is a step above my friend, A juggernaut thats not fooling around, Not going easy, talking trash, The Juggernaut which is used on these forums. No different then saying a "Well Written Superman" Or "A well written Green Lantern" or "Well written Silver Surfer"

Please, before you try to call me a fanboy, make sure you have some hard evidence to do it on kay buddy.

so how a guy would have the right.. claiming to be... UNSTOPPABLE... if he can't walk on the surface of fluid things ???

juggernaut66666....

do you know.... is there a story.... after .. the ending of "Amazing Spiderman 230" ?...

from the side of Juggernaut ???

Hercules IS NOT unstoppable...

but so is Juggernaut...


even HULK KILLER HUMANOID... IS NOT .. unstoppable

This aint a fight...its Tuggo war...

by the way... i RECOGNIZE... juggernaut6666 VERY VERY .. much

he knows MUCH MORE about Marvel comics.. than i...

BUT

i CANNOT except... that someone has the attribut of beeing unstoppable (no force on earth..).... if this isnt RIGHT

Originally posted by Apolloknight
Oh man, I love it when people do this, put words into other peoples post that don't exist.

I think I said you don't realize what a well written Juggernaut can do? I think thats what I said, nope I'm sure thats what I said, I would quote myself but for some reason you already quoted me, yet you still rewrote my sentence, How funny?

A well written Juggernaut is a step above my friend, A juggernaut thats not fooling around, Not going easy, talking trash, The Juggernaut which is used on these forums. No different then saying a "Well Written Superman" Or "A well written Green Lantern" or "Well written Silver Surfer"

Please, before you try to call me a fanboy, make sure you have some hard evidence to do it on kay buddy.

How is that different than someone saying "a full potential Hulk" cannot be overcome physically when it has?

Perhaps you should had though best what to write before doing it because it sure seems to imply that. A well written character doesnt have only good things. But bad ones as well. They are part of it.

The fact you seem to dismiss the times he has been hurt even before the massive powerdown he had, only hurts the view on such character.

It as nothing to do with "going down easily". No one is spotting that kind of dumb logic, or at least im surely not doing it. What i dont do is dismiss bad showings only because they are bad. Thats fanboysm. For either side.

Kay buddy?

Did Juggs had some sorta telepathic abilities when he was classic?
If so he could affect herc while the tuggo

Originally posted by Betageuze
juggernaut666666.....


(normal) HULK .. has STOPPED the Juggernaut before......

IF Juggernaut would be UNSTOPPABLE... when he moves on

WHY Hulk has knocked him off his feet.
WHY Nimrod.. has beaten him
WHY the X-Men .. has beaten him
WHY ... he was STOPPED... by Spiderman.. when he got into wet cement....

there are MANY ways... to STOP the "unstoppable" foe ...

and a lot of individuals (and teams) had proved that in the past

my understanding of a UNSTOPPABLE guy... IF he moves on.. is...
that he CANNOT BE stopped... CANNOT put down....

so....
how many (terrastial) guys.. has proved that ?????????



YOUR "THEORIE" OF THE UNSTOPPABLE JUGGERNAUT.... DOES NOT PERSIST......

sorry...

Hehe, Immortal Thor site has a lot of faults. It says that Hercules is stronger, but it also says:

Having that said, Juggernaut wins.

Hercules might even be stronger, but he CANNOT hurt the Juggernaut. Many people have fought the Classic Juggernaut, but only person that I've seen hurting him physically (when being in full power) is Vision who phased his hand inside Juggy.

EDIT: With physical I mean hand to hand combat or such, no sonics or psionics.

to TSHERN:

heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy.....

this is a TUG OF WAR MATCH...... he neednt HURT Juggernaut....

it is a match of

physical strength... and endurance...

and because of the greater strength of Hercules...

he would win.. in my opinion....

he HAS NOT to hurt Cain...

Originally posted by Betageuze
to TSHERN:

heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy.....

this is a TUG OF WAR MATCH...... he neednt HURT Juggernaut....

it is a match of

physical strength... and endurance...

and because of the greater strength of Hercules...

he would win.. in my opinion....

he HAS NOT to hurt Cain... Like i said Juggs had some telepathic abilities while he was classic...mabye mess wif herc's mind

Originally posted by Betageuze
to TSHERN:

heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy.....

this is a TUG OF WAR MATCH...... he neednt HURT Juggernaut....

it is a match of

physical strength... and endurance...

and because of the greater strength of Hercules...

he would win.. in my opinion....

he HAS NOT to hurt Cain...
then there is not need to say anything because you won't make up your mind

Oh boy this is starting again...

TSHERN wrote:
Hercules might even be stronger, but he CANNOT hurt the Juggernaut. Many people have fought the Classic Juggernaut, but only person that I've seen hurting him physically (when being in full power) is Vision who phased his hand inside Juggy.


Vision also phased his hand into Mindless Hulk... it didnt fazed him...

Originally posted by Tshern
Hehe, Immortal Thor site has a lot of faults. It says that Hercules is stronger, but it also says:

Having that said, Juggernaut wins.

Hercules might even be stronger, but he CANNOT hurt the Juggernaut. Many people have fought the Classic Juggernaut, but only person that I've seen hurting him physically (when being in full power) is Vision who phased his hand inside Juggy.

EDIT: With physical I mean hand to hand combat or such, no sonics or psionics.

And Hulk. And Nimrod.

Also, Jugs doesnt have telepathic abilities to mess with someones head that im aware of.

Bleh, it isent even a case of who i think it wins, i think Jugs would but the sheer fanboysm here that he has never been hurt its madness.

The same way with Herc being "incalculable cl" against Jugs being "cl90"

Cut down the coffe, gentleman.

Strength Level:The Juggernaut possesses Class 100 strength,enabling him to lift (press) over 100 tons. The Juggernaut is said to be unstoppable, and the upper limit to his strength is not known. His strength rivals that of the strongest being on Earth,the Incredible Hulk.
Known Superhuman Powers:The Juggernaut's body is completely invulnerable. His skin cannot be broken and he is incapable of feeling pain or sustaining any form of injury from any conventional physical attack,regardless of the amount of force or energy exerted against him. He can however be jarred or dazed and has some susceptibility to sensory attacks though he is affected considerably less than a normal human being and will recover completely almost as soon as the attack is over. The Juggernaut can generate at will a personal forcefield around himself extending to about 1 foot from his body. This forcefield appears to be completely impenetrable to any level of concussive force or any form of energy blasts regardless of their intensity. The Juggernaut is resistant to all toxins,poisons,gases and disease. He is self-contained by his magic and does not need to eat,drink,breathe,and cannot tire or become exhausted.

strength:
Juggy: Superhuman Class 90 .. (in my opinion... 100tons)
Herc: INCALCULABLE

stamina:
Juggy: IMMEASURABLE
Herc. godlike...
Bring up real point and stop lying evidently you are the fanboy and have no clue to what you are talking about.In a fist fight Juggernaut beats Hercules and in a tug of war match Juggernaut wins.

Yeah and the mindless hulk beats everyone including the living tribunal eternity glactus stranger etc.etc.etc. except the HULK KILLER HUMANOID

I know, I just commented on the statements that said Hercules could beat Juggernaut physically.

And as I posted in my previous message, Juggernaut is unstoppable according to the very same page that you used to prove that Juggernaut is weaker than Hercules. Here we face a situation: Either Hercules isn't necessarily stronger or then Juggernaut is unstoppable. If Juggs is unstoppable, Herc loses, if Herc isn't necessarily stronger, Juggernaut might win.

And normal Hulk hasn't stopped the Juggernaut (or has he? If so, when?), but Thor's godblast did it.

Juggernaut 10/10.

Why mention Mindless Hulk when wer talking about Herc and Juggs...

I HAVE OPENED THIS ONE.....

can i bring this whole thing.. DOWN.. to a "good" end




with one more zitate.. (copyright.. by ME


Marvel...

would be NOT Marvel

WITHOUT the likes of

HERCULES... and.... JUGGERNAUT


CLOSING

;-)...

PS: i like you guys outthere... whatever.... i like you...
(and i mean this NOT sarcastic....)

Originally posted by olympian
And Hulk. And Nimrod.

Also, Jugs doesnt have telepathic abilities to mess with someones head that im aware of.

Bleh, it isent even a case of who i think it wins, i think Jugs would but the sheer fanboysm here that he has never been hurt its madness.

The same way with Herc being "incalculable cl" against Jugs being "cl90"

Cut down the coffe, gentleman.

Where did Nimrod actually hit Juggernaut so hard that he was hurt? I only see the sonics hurting him.

Show me a scan where Hulk hurts Juggernaut.

Yeah, I think Immortal Thor website is not the best piece of evidence one can use. Quite a few of the stats there are seriously wrong. Anyways, show me normal Hulk hurting/stopping Juggernaut, Nimrod hurting him and I'll believe you.

Originally posted by big juggy man
Bring up real point and stop lying evidently you are the fanboy and have no clue to what you are talking about.In a fist fight Juggernaut beats Hercules and in a tug of war match Juggernaut wins.

The irony.

In case your too tick to get it, both him and the juggernaut side are being fanboys for the most part.

Juggernaut even classic has been hurt more than once.

His strength level is around the same as Thor and Hulk. Probably equal as he once said.

And this tug of War isent going to be decided by strength alone. Stamina and motion will be tiebreakers and Juggs has it better than Hercules.

Common sense does go a long way.

Originally posted by Tshern
Where did Nimrod actually hit Juggernaut so hard that he was hurt? I only see the sonics hurting him.

Show me a scan where Hulk hurts Juggernaut.

Yeah, I think Immortal Thor website is not the best piece of evidence one can use. Quite a few of the stats there are seriously wrong. Anyways, show me normal Hulk hurting/stopping Juggernaut, Nimrod hurting him and I'll believe you.

1- Prof Hulk beating Jugs down in the storyline that involved also the 90`s Avengers. And yes before the backlash that Hulk had when getting out of the mind control. I only have scans of the Herc/Hulk match because i wanted to use it for the debates, ask for that one and someone migth get it.

2- Sonics that wer physically hurting him. It isent much as only counting "punches". Vison also hurt him in a physical way and there was no punch. This is to give food to think about to those who said he was never physically hurt, like i often read.

3- I dont count sites and bios. Never did.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-359246-mindless-total-out-of-control-hulk-vs-classic-juggernaut.html

So you weren't really interested in a debate? You just want to get an unreasonable win for your favorite character?

Originally posted by olympian
And this tug of War isent going to be decided by strength alone. Stamina and motion will be tiebreakers and Juggs has it better than Hercules.

Common sense does go a long way.

I said the very same thing back on page one, and it was ignored completely.

TSHERN.. i has NEVER said... HURTING.. juggernaut.... (within THIS thread..)

we talked about.. STOPPING.....

and SPIDERMAN... STOPPED the Juggernaut (for a while... but he stopped him).. withing the Amazing Spiderman 229+230

who can deny that?

i have to leave now.....

(the next thread... i will post.... will be:
Daredevil vs. Living Tribunal, full powered Galactus, The Celestials... and .. Captain America)



bye bye

Originally posted by Betageuze
TSHERN.. i has NEVER said... HURTING.. juggernaut.... (within THIS thread..)

we talked about.. STOPPING.....

and SPIDERMAN... STOPPED the Juggernaut (for a while... but he stopped him).. withing the Amazing Spiderman 229+230

who can deny that?

He didn't stop the Juggernaut, he made him walk to a pit which was subsequently filled with concrete. One of the worse plot devices ever, and PIS is invalid here.

Juggy wasnt stepped out of the cement... at the end of the story...

so.. thats why it was (not a classic .. but it was)..a DEFEAT for Juggernaut

Originally posted by olympian

1- Prof Hulk beating Jugs down in the storyline that involved also the 90`s Avengers. And yes before the backlash that Hulk had when getting out of the mind control. I only have scans of the Herc/Hulk match because i wanted to use it for the debates, ask for that one and someone migth get it.

2- Sonics that wer physically hurting him. It isent much as only counting "punches". Vison also hurt him in a physical way and there was no punch. This is to give food to think about to those who said he was never physically hurt, like i often read.

3- I dont count sites and bios. Never did.

1. I know the magazine, I just don't have it here. I'll check it during the weekend, though. But at the moment I just can't recall Juggernaut being hurt before the backlash. Or, well, Vision did hurt him. Something that Hercules can't do.

2. He can be physically hurt. I personally mistype that often, you really can hurt physically without going physical. But yeah, he can be hurt as we both know.

3. You shouldn't, way too many flaws...

Originally posted by Dinkus Mayhem
I said the very same thing back on page one, and it was ignored completely.
I know. I even joked about the tripping bit.

With beta getting into a argument with Juggernaut66666 and Apolloknigth what would you expect?


Originally posted by Tshern
1. I know the magazine, I just don't have it here. I'll check it during the weekend, though. But at the moment I just can't recall Juggernaut being hurt before the backlash. Or, well, Vision did hurt him. Something that Hercules can't do.

2. He can be physically hurt. I personally mistype that often, you really can hurt physically without going physical. But yeah, he can be hurt as we both know.

3. You shouldn't, way too many flaws...

1- When you read it, youll see what i mean. Juggs got winded down by Hulks punches before any backlash happened. Now is it something that would happen often? Cant say. Impossible? Wont even go there.

Originally posted by olympian
I know. I even joked about the tripping bit.

With beta getting into a argument with Juggernaut66666 and Apolloknigth what would you expect?




1- When you read it, youll see what i mean. Juggs got winded down by Hulks punches before any backlash happened. Now is it something that would happen often? Cant say. Impossible? Wont even go there.

Agreed, got a bit derailed. But hey, they can argue too, everyone has bad days.

1. Okay, I'll check it out. And it is not something that would happen often, Juggs has been in an all out brawl with savage Hulk and he wasn't tired in the least...

EDIT: What is the rope made of, by the way? I want some shoelaces out of that...

With these two guys?

Adamantium otherwise it will break up.

Originally posted by olympian
I know. I even joked about the tripping bit.

With beta getting into a argument with Juggernaut66666 and Apolloknigth what would you expect?




1- When you read it, youll see what i mean. Juggs got winded down by Hulks punches before any backlash happened. Now is it something that would happen often? Cant say. Impossible? Wont even go there.


So confirm this for me, Juggernaut no longer has unlimited stamina? And can be phyically hurt?

Just want to make sure we are on the same page!!?

Juggernaut even when Classic was hurt before.

I dont think its something really hard to get. Not one character lives only of good showings.

Originally posted by Betageuze
NO....... so guys... i will explain it to you... in an easy way:

look at:
http://www.immortalthor.net/
the Hercules and Juggernaut stats....

strength:
Juggy: Superhuman Class 90 .. (in my opinion... 100tons)
Herc: INCALCULABLE

stamina:
Juggy: IMMEASURABLE
Herc. godlike...

so... in a match.. of strength.... HOW in hell.... would Juggernaut will win this one ?

when he fights a

stronger
more versatile
in my opinion... a little bit smarter
faster

guy.... like Hercules ?

there is NO WAY..... and all you Juggy-fans outthere....

you have to ACCEPT... that "your" Juggernaut ISNT unstoppable...

an in a tug of war...

he would loose against a superior beeing like... HERCULES

that are the facts... has nothing to do with Herc Fan or not...

No offense, bro. But you clearly know nothing about Juggernaut.

And apparently, not enough about Hercules either.

Its ok, Meta. Theyr all kool now.

No need to get steel hard.

heh.

Originally posted by Apolloknight
Oh man, I love it when people do this, put words into other peoples post that don't exist.


Don't be a hypocrite. You and other Juggy fans do this all the time.

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
since when did savage hulk stop juggernaut or nimrod beat him phisically ?
http://img15.photobucket.com/albums/v44/guyverjay/hrPage_16.jpg
http://img15.photobucket.com/albums/v44/guyverjay/hrPage_17.jpg

Originally posted by Accel
http://img15.photobucket.com/albums/v44/guyverjay/hrPage_16.jpg
http://img15.photobucket.com/albums/v44/guyverjay/hrPage_17.jpg
so using sonics is a phisical beat down?

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
so using sonics is a phisical beat down?

He caused Juggernaut physical pain. No one talked about a beat down.

since when did savage hulk stop juggernaut or nimrod beat him phisically ? Originally posted by Accel
http://img15.photobucket.com/albums/v44/guyverjay/hrPage_16.jpg
http://img15.photobucket.com/albums/v44/guyverjay/hrPage_17.jpg

Yeah, Nimrod beat him physically. Beat also mean 'win.' And Nimrod used sonic to cause him physical pain and won him.

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
When thor stopped juggernaut with the godforce blast that was magic juggernaut is weak against magic and war hulk only stopped juggernaut because he was using other dimensional powers to stop him and NO FORCE ON EARTH CAN STOP HIM both forces are not from Earth

Juggs might keep moving, but it doesn't mean he can hold onto the rope.

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
so using sonics is a phisical beat down?
Yes. What, did you think sound waves causing the ear drums to vibrate was telepathy?

to Metalmanx:

BIG.. unknown......

have i really MUCH.. to know....... about these behemoths......

when.... the FACTS... are absolutly in favour of Hercules...

he IS the stronger .. of the too..... and here... the one.. who has more power.... and..... especially

breaks the momentum....

wins this tug of war

so i DIDNT have to know... the "live-stories" of the two....

the FACTS indeed... here... are enough... to say...

that in this match... Hercules will be the superior...

Yeah, I hope Beta didn't say anything pertinent, he is on my ignore list due to the idiocy of the ellipses.

Anyways, the match goes to Juggernaut. Immortal Hercules is strong, sure, stronger? Who knows? Doesn't matter. Juggernaut just needs to take a step in the right direction, and he won't be stopped. He wins.

to Metalmanx:

BIG.. unknown......

have i really MUCH.. to know....... about these behemoths......

when.... the FACTS... are absolutly in favour of Hercules...

he IS the stronger .. of the too..... and here... the one.. who has more power.... and..... especially

breaks the momentum....

wins this tug of war

so i DIDNT have to know... the "live-stories" of the two....

the FACTS indeed... here... are enough... to say...

that in this match... Hercules will be the superior...

The Juggernaut. Nothing to do with the unstoppability thing, I just think he's stronger.

soljer wrote:
...Doesn't matter. Juggernaut just needs to take a step in the right direction, and he won't be stopped. He wins.
.....

hmm... thats the key ?..... taking a step in the right direction ??

than please tell me... why he wos knocked down.. numerous times.. BEFORE....... for example ...... by Gladiator... by Hulk... by Superman..... (and the Superman deals WASNT any DC vs. Marvel "shit"... like the Supie Hulk fight)

you all jugg-fanboys outthere.. dont wanna see the truth....

IF .. the stronger of the two.... will step .. in the right direction...... he will WIN.... and the stronger.... more versatile guy here

is definitly... Immortal Herc

Wasp said before:

Hercules is the strongest Avenger... EVER...

so...... if i got right... Hulk.. was an Avenger... BEFORE.. (and wasp and Hulk fought together....)

Juggernaut was defeated by Hulk....

and here... it is not a normal fight...

it is tug-of-war...

the stronger..... ist Hercules..... and dont think... Juggernaut will go his way simply in the right direction.. and everything works fine for him...

this guy... Hercules.... pulled MANHATTAN behind him.....

i give you a question:
Hulk has held... like everybody knows.. for some time.. a whole mountain on his back....

question:

could Hercules do this ?
could Juggernaut do this?

the better chances.. for Hercules....... without a doubt

Sorry to tell this but you are a joke

IF JUGGERNAUT ... REALLY ... WOULD BE UNSTOPPABLE (by guys from earth..)

SO .. MARVEL WRITERS NEVER...... WOULD HAVE LET SPIDERMAN A TRIUMPH IN THE AMAZING SPIDERMAN SERIES 229 and 230 OVER JUGGERNAUT

please think a bit...

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Sorry to tell this but you are a joke

juggernaut66666.....

Juggernaut ISNT unstoppable....

and... Hercules would win in a tug-of-war

has nothing to do with Herc-fanboyship

Originally posted by Betageuze
IF JUGGERNAUT ... REALLY ... WOULD BE UNSTOPPABLE (by guys from earth..)

SO .. MARVEL WRITERS NEVER...... WOULD HAVE LET SPIDERMAN A TRIUMPH IN THE AMAZING SPIDERMAN SERIES 229 and 230 OVER JUGGERNAUT

please think a bit... What now I know your screwy Spiderman never even managed to to once stop Juggernaut in those encounters

the outcoming of that issues.....

Juggernaut wasnt seen .....

Spiderman was....

Spiderman ruled.... the scene....

sorry for you Juggernaut-lunatics...

Not completely unstoppable, but Hercules doesn't have what it takes to stop Juggernaut. And Betageuze, listen to me: Spider-man did NOT stop Juggernaut, he walked into a pit, which got filled with concrete. The fact that Juggs did NOT walk out of the pit is easily explained; the writing was crappy. And PIS IS NOT VALID.

YES .. tshern...


OF COURSE

anytime.... WHEN JUGGERNAUT WAS STOPPED by someone...

the writing was crappy...

you always prefer the easy way .. dont ya ?

Originally posted by Betageuze
YES .. tshern...


OF COURSE

anytime.... WHEN JUGGERNAUT WAS STOPPED by someone...

the writing was crappy...

you always prefer the easy way .. dont ya ?
No, actually I think it was very good writing when Thor pushed Juggernaut back (actually, in my opinion Juggernaut should have been hurt by godblast. After all, it's Thor's ultimate weapon and it should be feared, not laughed at) and even War Hulk stopping Juggernaut was very good. But not the Spider-man case. Happy with that, Beta?

haa...

Hercules does not have it .. what it takes to stop Cain Marko ???

a guy....

who survived a pissed Hulk
who held the earth on his shoulders
who wasnt even fazed... by full blasts of Nova
who put down the Firelord... with one .. clear .. fist
who ripped of the armor of Terminus
who pulled the whole island of Manhattan
who stalemated Thor ... for a very long time...


come on guys...... you are laughable...

Originally posted by Betageuze
YES .. tshern...


OF COURSE

anytime.... WHEN JUGGERNAUT WAS STOPPED by someone...

the writing was crappy...

you always prefer the easy way .. dont ya ? Um not saying much but yeah Spidermna was trying his absolute best to hurt Cain and Cain pretty much was walking through it all like a hot knife through butter even let Spidey drive a tanker into him.

Secondly Herc is good but he is equal in strength if maybe a little stronger than Thor and Thor never has a shot against Cain in H2H unless depowered

Originally posted by Betageuze
haa...

Hercules does not have it .. what it takes to stop Cain Marko ???

a guy....

who survived a pissed Hulk
who held the earth on his shoulders
who wasnt even fazed... by full blasts of Nova
who put down the Firelord... with one .. clear .. fist
who ripped of the armor of Terminus
who pulled the whole island of Manhattan
who stalemated Thor ... for a very long time...


come on guys...... you are laughable...
Nope you are laughable

Originally posted by Tshern
No, actually I think it was very good writing when Thor pushed Juggernaut back (actually, in my opinion Juggernaut should have been hurt by godblast. After all, it's Thor's ultimate weapon and it should be feared, not laughed at) and even War Hulk stopping Juggernaut was very good. But not the Spider-man case. Happy with that, Beta?

In all honesty, he did have his shield up.

the Spiderman writing... was AWESOME

well... IF Spiderman ... would have handled Juggernaut with his fists...

THEN.. you can say... this would be laughable....

but dont say that writing was crappy...
if you would say this.... you were laughable... sorry Tshern...

Originally posted by Betageuze
haa...

Hercules does not have it .. what it takes to stop Cain Marko ???

a guy....

who survived a pissed Hulk
who held the earth on his shoulders
who wasnt even fazed... by full blasts of Nova
who put down the Firelord... with one .. clear .. fist
who ripped of the armor of Terminus
who pulled the whole island of Manhattan
who stalemated Thor ... for a very long time...


come on guys...... you are laughable...

Okay, you've been talking about Hercules' feats a lot, but answer this. Do you actually think Hercules is more powerful than godblast?

Originally posted by Betageuze
haa...

Hercules does not have it .. what it takes to stop Cain Marko ???

a guy....

who survived a pissed Hulk
who held the earth on his shoulders
who wasnt even fazed... by full blasts of Nova
who put down the Firelord... with one .. clear .. fist
who ripped of the armor of Terminus
who pulled the whole island of Manhattan
who stalemated Thor ... for a very long time...


come on guys...... you are laughable... And thats what I'm saying Juggs beats on Thor all day in H2H and HErc is not able to that tells you something right there

Originally posted by Betageuze
Hercules is the strongest Avenger... EVER...

the stronger..... ist Hercules..... and dont think... Juggernaut will go his way simply in the right direction.. and everything works fine for him...

this guy... Hercules.... pulled MANHATTAN behind him.....

When the Juggernaut traded punches with one of the Exemplars the strength of the blows was said to be the greatest force ever unleashed on Earth.

the story... when Spiderman drived a tanker into him...

hmm.. was really impressible.. sure...

but .. have you seen... when Hercules was hit by full blasts of Nova.. a herald of Galactus

like he stepped out of the flames....

THAT was impressive.. TOO

Originally posted by Betageuze
the Spiderman writing... was AWESOME

well... IF Spiderman ... would have handled Juggernaut with his fists...

THEN.. you can say... this would be laughable....

but dont say that writing was crappy...
if you would say this.... you were laughable... sorry Tshern...
Well, it was okay, but I can't understand how come Juggernaut just didn't destroy the concrete, he has done a lot more impressive feats. Yeah, Spider-man found a way to get rid of Juggernaut, but in my opinion it was not a good way. Juggernaut got out of a huge cone of solid metal. Why would concrete stop him?

i am disappointed of you juggernaut6666

to TSHERN:
Nova hit Hercules FULL... and he wasnt impressed....

i never felt the Godblast from Thor... couldnt say it

Originally posted by Betageuze
i am disappointed of you juggernaut6666

to TSHERN:
Nova hit Hercules FULL... and he wasnt impressed....

i never felt the Godblast from Thor... couldnt say it
Godblast cracked a Celestial...

Originally posted by Betageuze
i am disappointed of you juggernaut6666

to TSHERN:
Nova hit Hercules FULL... and he wasnt impressed....

i never felt the Godblast from Thor... couldnt say it says the guy who thinks that the HULK KILLER HUMANOID can beat Eternity

Juggernaut .. has done impressive things..
Hercules has also......

ask Hulk....... WHO of the two... he likes to say... is the greater challenge for him

juggernaut6666... dont be a liar....

i have NEVER said this.... i dont know enough about Eternity...

Originally posted by Betageuze
Juggernaut .. has done impressive things..
Hercules has also......

ask Hulk....... WHO of the two... he likes to say... is the greater challenge for him Yeah and ask Thor which one Herc or Juggernaut has done better against him.

Herc stalemates Thor H2H

Juggernaut beats on Thor even when he is using the hammer.

That should be all you need to know

Originally posted by Betageuze
Juggernaut .. has done impressive things..
Hercules has also......

ask Hulk....... WHO of the two... he likes to say... is the greater challenge for him
Considering that only War Hulk has defeated Juggs in a brawl, I'd give it to Juggernaut.

hasnt a Marvel hero the right.. to have a bad day...

if it would be .. fine writing.....

Juggernaut... would be defeated by Hulk
Juggernaut ... would be defeated by Thor
Hercules.... would stalemate Thor (more a winning of Thor... 4/6)
Thor ... would stalemate Hulk
Hercules... would be defeated by Hulk..... (or stalemate)

that are the experience.. of a long time Marvel reader....

Originally posted by Betageuze
Juggernaut .. has done impressive things..
Hercules has also......

ask Hulk....... WHO of the two... he likes to say... is the greater challenge for him

Well the Juggernaut is obviously the greater challenge since Hercules has never done the Hulk any damage in any of their fights. The Juggernaut has.

what damage Juggernaut has done to Hulk ???

Originally posted by newjak86
Yeah and ask Thor which one Herc or Juggernaut has done better against him.

Herc stalemates Thor H2H

Juggernaut beats on Thor even when he is using the hammer.

That should be all you need to know

Thor should not have THAT much trouble with Juggernaut, unless he the latter has his shield up. Without it, they're basically equal in strength, with Thor being the one with the superior skills and speed.

you forget .. one .. very very important thing.. in your writings...


even .. a MORTAL hercules... gave Hulk a battle....

and the gods... .Hercules has...

MAKES HIM A SUPERIOR IN A FIGHT.. against Juggernaut

Originally posted by Betageuze
hasnt a Marvel hero the right.. to have a bad day...

if it would be .. fine writing.....

Juggernaut... would be defeated by Hulk
Juggernaut ... would be defeated by Thor
Hercules.... would stalemate Thor (more a winning of Thor... 4/6)
Thor ... would stalemate Hulk
Hercules... would be defeated by Hulk..... (or stalemate)

that are the experience.. of a long time Marvel reader....
Juggernaut would beat the living hell out of Hulk after a long battle.
Thor would use his powers correctly and beat Juggernaut up.
Thor would smite Hercules back to Olympos if he used his magic well.
Thor would kill Hulk with some serious godblasts.
Hercules would make a great match with Hulk.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=404930&highlight=hulk+killer+humanoid+forumid%3A77
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=378936&highlight=hulk+killer+humanoid+forumid%3A77

Originally posted by Betageuze
you forget .. one .. very very important thing.. in your writings...


even .. a MORTAL hercules... gave Hulk a battle....

and the gods... .Hercules has...

MAKES HIM A SUPERIOR IN A FIGHT.. against Juggernaut

Hulk nearly killed Mortal Hercules. He was chanceless, except for one minor wrestling move. And you know what? It wasn't even Savage Hulk.

Tshern.. you know.... that Juggernaut CANNOT do any damage to the Hulk...

he would getting more and more angry...

and than... he would destroy the Juggernaut.. once .. and for all..

with such a power...
only Hulk can offer....

Juggernaut .. hasnt the experience of Hercules or Hulk

Juggernaut is in the league of a very strong Abomination...

dont make him greater.. than he is....

Originally posted by Tshern
Juggernaut would beat the living hell out of Hulk after a long battle.
Thor would use his powers correctly and beat Juggernaut up.
Thor would smite Hercules back to Olympos if he used his magic well.
Thor would kill Hulk with some serious godblasts.
Hercules would make a great match with Hulk.

No, yes, yes, yes, yes.

Originally posted by Betageuze
Tshern.. you know.... that Juggernaut CANNOT do any damage to the Hulk...

he would getting more and more angry...

and than... he would destroy the Juggernaut.. once .. and for all..

with such a power...
only Hulk can offer....

Juggernaut .. hasnt the experience of Hercules or Hulk

Juggernaut is in the league of a very strong Abomination...

dont make him greater.. than he is....

Originally posted by Betageuze
what damage Juggernaut has done to Hulk ???


In his first fight with the angry Savage Hulk the Juggernaut pounded him down and notices that Hulk's attacks are growing weaker due the punishment. And he beat the Merged Hulk unconscious.

one serious question:

WHO OF YOU.... DONT THINK

THAT HULK WOULD BE ABLE TO SURVIVE

A FULL GODBLAST BY THOR

(and please dont allow bad writing ...)

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=404930&highlight=hulk+killer+humanoid+forumid%3A77
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=378936&highlight=hulk+killer+humanoid+forumid%3A77

HULK KILLER HUMANOID.. was pounding Hulk nearly unconcious....

but not Juggernaut....

Hulk has fought so many 90tons+ guys....

how in hell... you believe... that Juggs would stand a chance....

Originally posted by Silas Burr
In his first fight with the angry Savage Hulk the Juggernaut pounded him down and notices that Hulk's attacks are growing weaker due the punishment. And he beat the Merged Hulk unconscious.

You do realize that Hulk didn't feel like fighting at all? If he was in for a fight, he would not have gotten weaker. He literally said that he was tired of him and that he hoped that he wouldn't bother him anymore.

i know....

you are all "tired" of the Hulk... who IS the most powerful force... in physical terms....

why do you think.. the champion .. has transported him away... and dont wanna a fight.. with him.... ???

everytime... hulk is put down.... the guys here... wanna see this as a DEFEAT for hulk

arent the blasts from NOVA ... nearly as powerful and deadly.. like the ones of Thor ?

if Herc is angry..... Juggernaut .. is dead...

Hulk has fought many Class100 guys, but Juggernaut is the only one that he CANNOT hurt by simply pounding him. Betageuze, show me a scan where Hulk hurts Juggernaut.

To make it simple, prove your point.

if War Hulk hast STOPPED the Juggernaut....

the most powerful incarnation of Hulk.... the (limitless) Mindless Hulk..... would stop him too...

my little friend.. Tshern...

Hulk couldnt hurt HULK KILLER HUMANOID....

but when Hulks pounds at FULL power on Juggernaut.... and he is ... "limitless" angry......

Juggernaut wouldnt stand a chance...

believe it.. or not

Originally posted by Betageuze
if War Hulk hast STOPPED the Juggernaut....

the most powerful incarnation of Hulk.... the (limitless) Mindless Hulk..... would stop him too...
War Hulk was the most powerfull since he was boosted by celestial tech

Originally posted by Dinalfos
You do realize that Hulk didn't feel like fighting at all? If he was in for a fight, he would not have gotten weaker. He literally said that he was tired of him and that he hoped that he wouldn't bother him anymore.


It was Hulk who initiated the fight and he had a supersized dose of rage going beforehand. He got weaker because he'd just been smashed to the ground by one of the Juggernaut's hits. It wasn't a major deal or anything and Hulk did recover, I'm just saying that's more than Hercules has ever done to the Hulk.

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
War Hulk was the most powerfull since he was boosted by celestial tech

Which harnessed the energies he was drawing himself.

Originally posted by Silas Burr
In his first fight with the angry Savage Hulk the Juggernaut pounded him down and notices that Hulk's attacks are growing weaker due the punishment. And he beat the Merged Hulk unconscious.
In the first fight, he didn't pound him downnor was Hulk weakened. He knocked him down after jumping on him from behind. When your opponent is down, of course you're going to assume he's weakened.

In the other fight, Prof. Hulk didn't even realize who he was fighting (despite the the fact that he was feeling his punches). He wasn't trying to beat him down like Juggernaut was.