Hitomi vs Makoto

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Major Snafu
Hitomi is vacationing in Southern Japan, particulary the Kyushu region, where Makoto has her dojo.

Makoto is sweeping her dojo when the Eurasian teenager shows up, asking for a match. Makoto says yes, and the fight is on.

Stage: Rindoukan Karate Dojo

Remulous
Hard to say but Makotos' moves look like they hurt alot more.

Superboy Prime
My bet's on Hitomi since she placed 3rd in DOA3. Beating the likes of Jann Lee and many others. Then again Makoto had a nice fight with 3rd Strike Ryu...

Ugh. I think it'd be a nice matchup. I really don't know.

Emperor Ashtar
Makoto, itagaki needs to shape up and turn hitomi into a serious character instead of a slot filler. She's my second favorite after all.

StyleTime
It would be a cool fight to watch. They're probably evenly matched although Hitomi did take 3rd in DOA like Superboy Prime mentioned.
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Makoto, itagaki needs to shape up and turn hitomi into a serious character instead of a slot filler. She's my second favorite after all.
Yeah wtf? Did you see her ending movie?

Emperor Ashtar
Originally posted by StyleTime
It would be a cool fight to watch. They're probably evenly matched although Hitomi did take 3rd in DOA like Superboy Prime mentioned.

Yeah wtf? Did you see her ending movie?

Yeah, itagaki pisses me off. He was bragging in an interview how he would power up the ninja's and make them much more powerful. When asked about the rest of the cast, he said the biggest steaming pile I've ever hear

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He said since certain characters have real life styles, out of respect he wouldn't change them much.

StyleTime
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Yeah, itagaki pisses me off. He was bragging in an interview how he would power up the ninja's and make them much more powerful. When asked about the rest of the cast, he said the biggest steaming pile I've ever hear

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He said since certain characters have real life styles, out of respect he wouldn't change them much. What the f**k?
.....wow.

Itagaki is a certified BADASS!(not really)

I swear sometimes that guy couldn't care less about the fans. It's like he makes these games to please himself.

Major Snafu
Originally posted by StyleTime
What the f**k?
.....wow.

Itagaki is a certified BADASS!(not really)

I swear sometimes that guy couldn't care less about the fans. It's like he makes these games to please himself.

You should see what he had said about Tekken. Crater-face should STFU and make games that focus more on ass-kicking, rather than T and A. Even Namco and SNK aren't that bad (Although Mai Shiranui started the 'bouncy ninja' trend).

Major Snafu
Originally posted by Major Snafu
You should see what he had said about Tekken. Crater-face should STFU and make games that focus more on ass-kicking, rather than T and A. Even Namco and SNK aren't that bad (Although Mai Shiranui started the 'bouncy ninja' trend, but that's beyond the point).

Emperor Ashtar
Originally posted by Major Snafu
You should see what he had said about Tekken. Crater-face should STFU and make games that focus more on ass-kicking, rather than T and A. Even Namco and SNK aren't that bad (Although Mai Shiranui started the 'bouncy ninja' trend).

He disses tekken, because the creators of tekken bashed his game when it was first coming out.But, still he goes to far. He's a great game developer but, he needs to stop being so arrogant.

StyleTime
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
He's a great game developer but, he needs to stop being so arrogant.
yes

Superboy Prime
I like his in your face style. It makes him unique in my book. Besides he is a great game developer, so long as he keeps making amazing games like Ninja Gaiden & DOA4 he can bash Tekken all he wants. He does make a few valid points. :P

Pulse2
Originally posted by Superboy Prime
I like his in your face style. It makes him unique in my book. Besides he is a great game developer, so long as he keeps making amazing games like Ninja Gaiden & DOA4 he can bash Tekken all he wants. He does make a few valid points. :P What? About how Tekken has no online or tag team option messed Doesn't seem to phase many a fan of Tekken, girls, boys and children alike, so he can talk until the dows come home, as many people won't listen until his DOA takes 1st place as king of fighting games which Tekken and Soul Calibur currently hold smile Oh well, he could always keep king of pr0n fighting wink
I'll give him that smile

Saying that, I believe Hitomi would win, she did come third in DOA3, not that thats saying much cos thats like coming third in a cat fight :P

Superboy Prime
Everyone knows the king of fighting video games is Virtua Fighter and not Tekken nor SC. Lay off the Namco ball-sucking attitude.

I was talking about his comment on how Namco always has mediocre games like Tekken bowl and Tekken ball instead of focusing on other stuff. He also mentioned how Tekken ripped DOA's wall system in a messy way, and then ditched it. His comment about them not knowing what they want was priceless. And let me not bring up his thoughts on the awful Nina game.

You can cry about boobs all you want, but one thing's for sure Ninja Gaiden >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nina's crappy game.

:P

StyleTime
Originally posted by Superboy Prime
I like his in your face style. It makes him unique in my book. Besides he is a great game developer, so long as he keeps making amazing games like Ninja Gaiden & DOA4 he can bash Tekken all he wants. He does make a few valid points. :P
I was referring moreso to how he has a hardon for the ninjas and leaves all the other characters to rot just because he doesn't like them as much.
Originally posted by Superboy Prime
Everyone knows the king of fighting video games is Virtua Fighter
yes Agreed.

Pulse2
Originally posted by Superboy Prime
Everyone knows the king of fighting video games is Virtua Fighter and not Tekken nor SC. Lay off the Namco ball-sucking attitude.

I was talking about his comment on how Namco always has mediocre games like Tekken bowl and Tekken ball instead of focusing on other stuff. He also mentioned how Tekken ripped DOA's wall system in a messy way, and then ditched it. His comment about them not knowing what they want was priceless. And let me not bring up his thoughts on the awful Nina game.

You can cry about boobs all you want, but one thing's for sure Ninja Gaiden >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nina's crappy game.

:P Medicre? This is how you know he has no idea what hes going on about messed These games are minigames to play away from fighting, Teken is about fighting, not volleyball, playing tennis, racing monkeys or slow motion virtual girls. VF is in a class of its own, but then so is Tekken, I don't even know what DOA was an attempt to make, a cheap rip off of VF maybe with nothing but girls so that Itakagi and his dev team can have a good time with the naked models before passing them on to kids half naked lol.

The Nina game we all knew would be awful anyway, so thats nothing new either smile Just accept it, DOA is but the shadow of better fighters, it'll make the pain go away smile

Emperor Ashtar
Originally posted by Superboy Prime
Ninja Gaiden & DOA4 he can bash Tekken all he wants. He does make a few valid points. :P

What valid points, even though I like doa better. Tekken far exceeds anything doa has ever come up with excluding 3.1.

Pulse2
Originally posted by Superboy Prime
Everyone knows the king of fighting video games is Virtua Fighter and not Tekken nor SC. Lay off the Namco ball-sucking attitude.

I was talking about his comment on how Namco always has mediocre games like Tekken bowl and Tekken ball instead of focusing on other stuff. He also mentioned how Tekken ripped DOA's wall system in a messy way, and then ditched it. His comment about them not knowing what they want was priceless. And let me not bring up his thoughts on the awful Nina game.

You can cry about boobs all you want, but one thing's for sure Ninja Gaiden >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nina's crappy game.

:P Not that you are saying any of this because you genuinly have an appreciation for proper fighting games, your just sticking up for DOA because it happens to be the only fighter 360 has, and I can see you are a 360 fan. Fighters are not meant to be volley ball games, ninjas defeating legendary demons and balsting buildings with Ki blasts, etc etc, they are meant to be fighters, plain and simple, and that is what VF and Tekken do best, they give the game a feel of real life fights and various existing martial arts and fighting styles, DOA will never enter the class of true fighting games unless Itakagi changes his rather foolish perspective, he is uncertain if DOA5 will be multiplatform, well heres a word of advice for him, keep it right where it is, it failed on PS2 before, it will fail on PS3 again, and be stomped by VF, SC and Tekken.

I don't even know why he stupidly considered bringing Ninja Gaiden to PS3, not only that, making it exclusive, messed what was he thinking?

On the side note, I hope games like these will introduce sweat and blood like Smackdown vs Raw games have, there is no reason why any of these fighters cannot look as realistic as Smackdown vs Raw, considering SVR has up to 45 existing people to choose in character select, plus the addition of your own characters sad And still manages to look good. Tekken should have a create a character option smile And fatigue, don't follow DOAs silly anime style unrealistic rubbish, but take its own path and make a hardcore fighting game, sweat, fatigue and blood smile

Emperor Ashtar
DOA just needs to avoid being like DOA4 in everyway.

Superboy Prime
Originally posted by Pulse2
Not that you are saying any of this because you genuinly have an appreciation for proper fighting games, your just sticking up for DOA because it happens to be the only fighter 360 has, and I can see you are a 360 fan. Fighters are not meant to be volley ball games, ninjas defeating legendary demons and balsting buildings with Ki blasts, etc etc, they are meant to be fighters, plain and simple, and that is what VF and Tekken do best, they give the game a feel of real life fights and various existing martial arts and fighting styles, DOA will never enter the class of true fighting games unless Itakagi changes his rather foolish perspective, he is uncertain if DOA5 will be multiplatform, well heres a word of advice for him, keep it right where it is, it failed on PS2 before, it will fail on PS3 again, and be stomped by VF, SC and Tekken.

I don't even know why he stupidly considered bringing Ninja Gaiden to PS3, not only that, making it exclusive, messed what was he thinking?

On the side note, I hope games like these will introduce sweat and blood like Smackdown vs Raw games have, there is no reason why any of these fighters cannot look as realistic as Smackdown vs Raw, considering SVR has up to 45 existing people to choose in character select, plus the addition of your own characters sad And still manages to look good. Tekken should have a create a character option smile And fatigue, don't follow DOAs silly anime style unrealistic rubbish, but take its own path and make a hardcore fighting game, sweat, fatigue and blood smile

Now after reading the first sentence I've decided to stop reading anything else you had to say. See you don't know me, nor the games I've played in the past and it is quite bold to assume you know what I am. I have the gamertag display on my sig and all of a sudden I haven't heard about video games until Halo arrived. Nice.

Superboy Prime
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
What valid points, even though I like doa better. Tekken far exceeds anything doa has ever come up with excluding 3.1.

Tekken > DOA. No way around that. It also has the better characters except Ryu...because Ryu is...well Ryu.

But Itagaki criticized Tekken's side games like Tekken Bawling & Ball. It was an old interview but he wondered why they bothered with that instead of focusing on the Tekken gameplay and the many clones in the world of Tekken--he obviously said this before Tekken 4 came out and put every clone out of the roster. Then he suggested they focus on bringing more original characters instead of recycling movesets & leave all the sidegames for another team/game to deal with it.

Superboy Prime
Originally posted by StyleTime
I was referring moreso to how he has a hardon for the ninjas and leaves all the other characters to rot just because he doesn't like them as much.

yes Agreed.

Yeah, but then again you can say the same about the Mishimas & Shotokans etc. Unless you're talking about gameplay and not story.

Superboy Prime
Originally posted by Pulse2
Not that you are saying any of this because you genuinly have an appreciation for proper fighting games, your just sticking up for DOA because it happens to be the only fighter 360 has, and I can see you are a 360 fan. Fighters are not meant to be volley ball games, ninjas defeating legendary demons and balsting buildings with Ki blasts, etc etc, they are meant to be fighters, plain and simple, and that is what VF and Tekken do best, they give the game a feel of real life fights and various existing martial arts and fighting styles, DOA will never enter the class of true fighting games unless Itakagi changes his rather foolish perspective, he is uncertain if DOA5 will be multiplatform, well heres a word of advice for him, keep it right where it is, it failed on PS2 before, it will fail on PS3 again, and be stomped by VF, SC and Tekken.

I don't even know why he stupidly considered bringing Ninja Gaiden to PS3, not only that, making it exclusive, messed what was he thinking?

On the side note, I hope games like these will introduce sweat and blood like Smackdown vs Raw games have, there is no reason why any of these fighters cannot look as realistic as Smackdown vs Raw, considering SVR has up to 45 existing people to choose in character select, plus the addition of your own characters sad And still manages to look good. Tekken should have a create a character option smile And fatigue, don't follow DOAs silly anime style unrealistic rubbish, but take its own path and make a hardcore fighting game, sweat, fatigue and blood smile

Now I was bored and decided to read your comment. Where to begin:

Fighters are not meant to have bowling games, nor volleyball games with midget dinosours. I find it funny that you claim DOA is not a proper fighter because it has Ninjas blasting buildings in CGI cut-scenes? WTF? Realism? What's so realistic about an angsty teen with wings blasting people with an energy beam shot from a third eye in his forhead? Oh yeah and that's gameplay not an ending. If DOA goes multiplatform it will be a hit. Do you not know why he switched to the X-box? He has said it countless times: He will develop/work with the most powerful console in the market. That is why he switched from Dreamcast to PS2, to X-box.

You will see how Ninja Gaiden will be an instant greatest hits for the PS3. Ninja Gaiden is a triple A game. And no ammount of dissing or biased opinions is going to change that. I am pretty confident that NG even with it's gameplay being a couple of years old by now is still going to rock those unfortunate gamers that weren't able to play it when it was first released for the X-box. Besides what's not to like about it? AAA game with updated graphics, new content, added story & new weapons + bosses. Go out & reserve it already. I know I would if I had a PS3.

For the record sweat, blood & fatigue do not make a hardcore fighting game. It's the gameplay's depth; and Tekken along with DOA & Soul Calibur have a long way to go before they are able to compete with their Godfather Mr. Virtua Fighter.

PS - Granted it would be nice to watch sweating, blood & fatigue, but it still doesn't make it a fighter. Visuals can only take you so far. Tekken Tag > Tekken 4 for example. And if for fatigue you're talking about Stamina ala Smackdown vs Raw 2007...I don't know stamina can get really annoying in SvR07. If someone tries something like that they better make it good.

StyleTime
I was going to reply to this Pulse2 guy but Superboy Prime beat me to it.
Originally posted by Superboy Prime
Yeah, but then again you can say the same about the Mishimas & Shotokans etc. Unless you're talking about gameplay and not story.
I was talking about gameplay.
Originally posted by Superboy Prime
Tekken > DOA. No way around that. It also has the better characters except Ryu...because Ryu is...well Ryu.
Tekken characters are a billion times better, but the gameplay isn't better. It's just different.

Emperor Ashtar
Tekkens better overall, the only thing DOA has over tekken is visuals and potential to be a great fighting game. If itagaki sits down and makes the effort to.

StyleTime
I can agree with that. The problem is, Itagaki seems to be content to just put out good costumes/environments/etc. I don't think he recognizes DOA's untapped potential. It's a shame too because I really like DOA.

Emperor Ashtar
Originally posted by Pulse2
DOA will never enter the class of true fighting games unless Itakagi changes his rather foolish perspective, he is uncertain if DOA5 will be multiplatform, well heres a word of advice for him, keep it right where it is, it failed on PS2 before, it will fail on PS3 again, and be stomped by VF, SC and Tekken.


Why is Soul Calibur considered to be a high class among fighting games , Soul Calibur 3 is the single most broken fighting game in the history of mankind.


Originally posted by Pulse2

I don't even know why he stupidly considered bringing Ninja Gaiden to PS3, not only that, making it exclusive, messed what was he thinking?
Ninja Gaiden, is the greatest action game of all time.


Originally posted by Pulse2

On the side note, I hope games like these will introduce sweat and blood like Smackdown vs Raw games have, there is no reason why any of these fighters cannot look as realistic as Smackdown vs Raw, considering SVR has up to 45 existing people to choose in character select, plus the addition of your own characters sad And still manages to look good. Tekken should have a create a character option smile And fatigue, don't follow DOAs silly anime style unrealistic rubbish, but take its own path and make a hardcore fighting game, sweat, fatigue and blood smile

Realism is overrated, yes, it helps draw a player into a game at times (Ninja Gaiden). But, when it comes down to it what makes a game good is it's fun factor and replay value.

Pulse2
Originally posted by Superboy Prime
Now I was bored and decided to read your comment. Where to begin:

Fighters are not meant to have bowling games, nor volleyball games with midget dinosours. I find it funny that you claim DOA is not a proper fighter because it has Ninjas blasting buildings in CGI cut-scenes? WTF? Realism? What's so realistic about an angsty teen with wings blasting people with an energy beam shot from a third eye in his forhead? Oh yeah and that's gameplay not an ending. If DOA goes multiplatform it will be a hit. Do you not know why he switched to the X-box? He has said it countless times: He will develop/work with the most powerful console in the market. That is why he switched from Dreamcast to PS2, to X-box.

You will see how Ninja Gaiden will be an instant greatest hits for the PS3. Ninja Gaiden is a triple A game. And no ammount of dissing or biased opinions is going to change that. I am pretty confident that NG even with it's gameplay being a couple of years old by now is still going to rock those unfortunate gamers that weren't able to play it when it was first released for the X-box. Besides what's not to like about it? AAA game with updated graphics, new content, added story & new weapons + bosses. Go out & reserve it already. I know I would if I had a PS3.

For the record sweat, blood & fatigue do not make a hardcore fighting game. It's the gameplay's depth; and Tekken along with DOA & Soul Calibur have a long way to go before they are able to compete with their Godfather Mr. Virtua Fighter.

PS - Granted it would be nice to watch sweating, blood & fatigue, but it still doesn't make it a fighter. Visuals can only take you so far. Tekken Tag > Tekken 4 for example. And if for fatigue you're talking about Stamina ala Smackdown vs Raw 2007...I don't know stamina can get really annoying in SvR07. If someone tries something like that they better make it good. Just get it over with and admit you love me smile

NG will be good no doubt but when you already have a killing demons game such as Devil May Cry, there is little or no reason to pick up NG -_-, either waym this isn't NG we are discussing, he also switch because DOA wasn't popular on PS2, it sucked, lol, and I happened to be one of the suckers that picked it up, oh well, it was cheap, why not :P Then I got bored of it and sold it off within a week, I wasn't suprised nor phased that it went over to Xbox and became exclusive, quite frankly it can stay right where it is, lol, I vow never to pick up a DOA game again.

VF is an amazing game, and after buying and playing that game (lost it, darnit!) I would know about its awesomeness. But then any fighter fan would tell you that Tekken is also an awesome game, Tekken has been in most arcades, you grow up with Tekken, Tekken 5 was the first Tekken to not enter the arcades excluding silly gameboy spin offs etc. Not even VF was in arcades that often, although I have seen it, but rarely, to be honest, I think VF wins hands down for fighting styles and plots, but Tekken comes in a close second with character designs, fighting styles and pretty much everything else. Tekken is no noob to the fighting genre.

WTF was Itakagi taking, recycled? Isn't that what DOA is messed It was always a rip off of VF with the most common of ideas and braindead plots. I think Itakagi should grow a brain in his intelligence garden before making stupid arse comments like that, otherwise he'll never gain as many fans as both Tekken and VF have sad

And to add to that, the side games are there for fun, they aren't meant to be singled out, they come as part of the package to get away from fighting all the time. They don't get rated seperatly or anything, so for Itakagi to come down on that is as stupid a comment as saying that a character in DOA sucks, therefore the whole game must suck, besides, it wasn't Tekken that made a rather pathetic and desperate attempt to make a volleyball game on a nude beach :P

Superboy Prime
One thing I disagree with you and it's that Tekken has the better story. Granted I wish Jin got nuked a thousand times....

Stop talking about extremevolleysluts, I don't care about the game.

Emperor Ashtar
Originally posted by Superboy Prime
One thing I disagree with you and it's that Tekken has the better story. Granted I wish Jin got nuked a thousand times....

Stop talking about extremevolleysluts, I don't care about the game.

The first volley sluts was cheap, so my friend bought it, and it was cool. The second sucks and proves itagaki is a liar.

Pulse2
You can play the second with one hand, and still own, its that bad, lol. Nina game may have been awful, but not that bad, lol.

NG is a good game, but I don't even look at it as part of DOA, I look at it as a completly different game in itself, just using a character that happens to be in DOA, the NG Ryu would destroy the DOA Ryu.

But then again, any fighting game creator could have done that messed

Superboy Prime
Not any fighting game creator could have done that. Namco tried and failed miserably with Nina's game.

True NG Ryu would decimate DOA Ryu if they weren't the same.

Pulse2
I think with any fighting game creator its possible, you just have to have a good plot to go with it, Nina game was bound to be rubbish, before it came out I knew it was rubbish, the storyline looked cheezy, infact all of it did. I would rather play a game based on Eddie Gordo in underground fighting, Raven, Jin with Devil Jin included or Kazuya. Other character are cool to feature in other games though, I made Marduk in Smackdown, but it would be better if he was already there, same as King.

Remulous
Urban Reign is a good action beat'em up by NAMCO, or so I've heard, I've never played it. It has Pual and Law in it though. Anyone thinks that Urban Reign can compete with NG.

Superboy Prime
I would rather play a beat them up with Kazuya...with every single boss being Jin...and the options to perform limitless fatalities over and over again.

Pulse2
What do you have against Jin? smile Hes overated yeah, but his devil is awesome. I want Kazuya's devil back though sad

Oh and theres word that Kunimitsu and Gon will be in Tekken 6, thats awesome news smile

Fallin Angel
Originally posted by Pulse2
What do you have against Jin? smile Hes overated yeah, but his devil is awesome. I want Kazuya's devil back though sad

Oh and theres word that Kunimitsu and Gon will be in Tekken 6, thats awesome news smile ''

Sweet, I love Kunimitsu ^_^

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