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Both have 1 week of prep. Can use all tech they have. Bloodlust is on.

Batman 1 Million: http://captain.custard.org/geo_old/dc1m_batman.html
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Kang: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kang_the_Conqueror
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Spite

Kang gets pwned by Doom with ease

What makes you think he stands a chance against Super Batman

Kang has NO chance in Hell of beating Bats

Have you seen the tech Kang has? Remember hes from waaaayyyy in the future as well.

Originally posted by Grimm22
Spite

Kang gets pwned by Doom with ease

What makes you think he stands a chance against Super Batman

That was in the Infinity War and it was PIS. He had no prep at all and Doom shouldve lost. Look what Kang did to the avengers the last two times they fought.

Originally posted by Ext@nt
That was in the Infinity War and it was PIS. He had no prep at all and Doom shouldve lost. Look what Kang did to the avengers the last two times they fought.

Actually I was reffering to numerous other times

But yeah that works too

Originally posted by Ext@nt
Have you seen the tech Kang has? Remember hes from waaaayyyy in the future as well. Bats 1million has only appeared in a few comics. He stole souls, was in charge of an entire planet by himself (yeah, he was able to handle the planet by himself w/o any help), was incharge of the JLA 1 Million prison which housed some of the worst villains in the entire galaxy (they trusted him to do it all by himself w/o any help, again). His tech made Kangs look retarded, plus he has an IQ of 1045.

dont try to tell me Kang has an IQ of 1045. Batman's IQ was so high, that he basically had pre-cog just based on his intelligence alone.

Kang created a fortress outside of time, thats how smart he is.

Powers, Equipment and Weapons

Abilities
While Kang does not possess super-human abilities per se, he appears to be on a strength and endurance level roughly similar to Captain America, as he is able to take him on in a fairly evenly matched battle- this suggests at least some enhancement.


Equipment
Kang often uses a hover pad. He also typically carries various weapons, such as an anti-matter defence screen generator, a "vibration-ray" projector, an electromagnectic field amplifier, neutrino-ray warheaded missile launcher (hand-gun size), electrical paralysis generator,nerve gas sprayer and a molecular expander. He commands a vast armada of warriors from across the galaxy of his of his futre era, armed with advanced weaponry. He used numerous robots, most notably his Growing-Man stimuloids, packed with the "Growth Pollen" of the world Kosmos, which causes them to grow in size and strength by absorbing kinectic energy; this Growth Pollen uses the same energy accessed, via the size-changing "Pym Particles" discovered by Dr Henry Pym. He also normally uses a sword in hand-to-hand combat, considering himself a 'warrior for all the ages'.


Other
Kang is an expert in travel through and manipulation of time and has mastered his future's advanced technology. He is an expert strategist, a veteran of armed and unarmed combat and has an indomitable will to succeed through struggle. Above Genius intelligence.

Originally posted by Ext@nt
Kang created a fortress outside of time, thats how smart he is.

Powers, Equipment and Weapons

Abilities
While Kang does not possess super-human abilities per se, he appears to be on a strength and endurance level roughly similar to Captain America, as he is able to take him on in a fairly evenly matched battle- this suggests at least some enhancement.


Equipment
Kang often uses a hover pad. He also typically carries various weapons, such as an anti-matter defence screen generator, a "vibration-ray" projector, an electromagnectic field amplifier, neutrino-ray warheaded missile launcher (hand-gun size), electrical paralysis generator,nerve gas sprayer and a molecular expander. He commands a vast armada of warriors from across the galaxy of his of his futre era, armed with advanced weaponry. He used numerous robots, most notably his Growing-Man stimuloids, packed with the "Growth Pollen" of the world Kosmos, which causes them to grow in size and strength by absorbing kinectic energy; this Growth Pollen uses the same energy accessed, via the size-changing "Pym Particles" discovered by Dr Henry Pym. He also normally uses a sword in hand-to-hand combat, considering himself a 'warrior for all the ages'.


Other
Kang is an expert in travel through and manipulation of time and has mastered his future's advanced technology. He is an expert strategist, a veteran of armed and unarmed combat and has an indomitable will to succeed through struggle. Above Genius intelligence. Mabye if Kang had months of prep and Batman had none, then Kang would stand a chance, but without prep this is almost spite..... Batman 1million is really that badass

I've read the DC 1 Million story and normal batman gave him a hard time. Kang stands a good chance of winning this.

Originally posted by Ext@nt
I've read the DC 1 Million story and normal batman gave him a hard time. Kang stands a good chance of winning this. nah, besides the other things i named, Bats can also make Avatars of himself that are capable of what he can do, how would Kang do against lets say 20 or 30 Batman 1millions? Kang really has no chance here especially if Bats has prep

and plus Kang has been outsmarted by beings of much lesser intelligence then Batman 1million in the past...

Originally posted by Ext@nt
I've read the DC 1 Million story and normal batman gave him a hard time. Kang stands a good chance of winning this.

Gave him a hard time? Batman got b*tchkicked by Bats 1 Million and made him lose consciousness, AND to top it all off, he stole Bruce's soul.

Bats 1M 10/10.

Kang also conquered the future and built a fortress outside of time. He has controlled an manipulated the Avengers and almost wiped out the earth countless times. It always takes a full army of heroes to beat him.

Originally posted by Ext@nt
Kang also conquered the future and built a fortress outside of time. He has controlled an manipulated the Avengers and almost wiped out the earth countless times. It always takes a full army of heroes to beat him.
Can he take control a PLANET prision of the galaxy's worst villians by himself?

Well he conquered most of the galaxy in the future so id say yeah, hes come close to doing many times to earth. And Bats didnt fight the entire planet he caught them one by one and imprisoned them.

Originally posted by Ext@nt
Well he conquered most of the galaxy in the future so id say yeah, hes come close to doing many times to earth. And Bats didnt fight the entire planet he caught them one by one and imprisoned them.
Sorry that was a typo
But also the whole steal your soul thing!

Originally posted by Ext@nt
Well he conquered most of the galaxy in the future so id say yeah, hes come close to doing many times to earth. And Bats didnt fight the entire planet he caught them one by one and imprisoned them.

Ha!!! You wish. He got pwned by Thor before. PWNED... badly. Doom has beaten him. He's not as good as you're thinking. He beat the Avengers using trickery. He isn't as smart as Bats 1 Million, and his tech isn't as impressive. Bats 1 Million 10/10.

Someone who can manipulate time and conquered most of the galaxy? I'd say your underestimating him.

He got owned by the Young Avengers

Originally posted by Ext@nt
Someone who can manipulate time and conquered most of the galaxy? I'd say your underestimating him.

Batman 1 Million easily.

Originally posted by Grimm22
He got owned by the Young Avengers

He's been owned by A LOT of people.

Originally posted by batdude123
Batman 1 Million easily.
Go BATMAN!
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That was a younger version of kang who had not yet become the conquerer we all know and love.

Kang conquered allot more then one planet.

Originally posted by Ext@nt
That was a younger version of kang who had not yet become the conquerer we all know and love.

Kang conquered allot more then one planet.

And gets pwned by people who actually hold worth. The JLA kept Bats 1 Million incharge of the super prison which housed the worst scum in the galaxy. Kang gets pwned, hard.

Believe what you wish, but I think your not giving Kang enough credit. Read Avengers: Forever and see what Kang pulled of During the Destiny War.

If Doom would get pwned by M Bats, then Kang stands no chance

Okay, The infinity war fight was PIS. And Kang wasnt even using any of his weapons.

Doom also pwned Kang in Secret Wars

Kang tryed to kill Doom but failed.

So Doom returned the favor in spades

Theres been many Kangs, The one from Avengers Forever would give bats one hell of a run.

Originally posted by Ext@nt
Theres been many Kangs, The one from Avengers Forever would give bats one hell of a run. nope, he would stand no chance at all

Originally posted by batdude123
He's been owned by A LOT of people.

You got to bear in mind he is a villain, sometimes villains lose when they are not supposed to. Rhino has also been owned by alot of people its not that Rhino is rubbish its PIS. If you look at Kangs credentials he should actually be able to beat Batman one million. Time travel is one of the most advanced things you can do and he is a specialist in it.

Originally posted by Galan777
Bats 1million has only appeared in a few comics. He stole souls, was in charge of an entire planet by himself (yeah, he was able to handle the planet by himself w/o any help), was incharge of the JLA 1 Million prison which housed some of the worst villains in the entire galaxy (they trusted him to do it all by himself w/o any help, again). His tech made Kangs look retarded, plus he has an IQ of 1045.

dont try to tell me Kang has an IQ of 1045. Batman's IQ was so high, that he basically had pre-cog just based on his intelligence alone.

Yea this is true - but damn if that isn't some of the most ignorant writing I've ever seen. IQ of 1045? - jesus, my IQ would go down just reading that book. I wanna slap DC writers sometimes

Originally posted by boriquaking55
Yea this is true - but damn if that isn't some of the most ignorant writing I've ever seen. IQ of 1045? - jesus, my IQ would go down just reading that book. I wanna slap DC writers sometimes I know 1045 is a bit extreme on DC's part, but overall the DC One Million series was some of the best ive read as far as DC goes

Originally posted by Galan777
I know 1045 is a bit extreme on DC's part, but overall the DC One Million series was some of the best ive read as far as DC goes

Cool. Are you gonna reply to my post?

P.S. What sort of tech did Bats have?

Originally posted by Alfheim
Cool. Are you gonna reply to my post?

P.S. What sort of tech did Bats have? heres a quick bio of him i think it gives some of his tech on it:
http://captain.custard.org/geo_old/dc1m_batman.html

Originally posted by Galan777
Bats 1million has only appeared in a few comics. He stole souls, was in charge of an entire planet by himself (yeah, he was able to handle the planet by himself w/o any help), was incharge of the JLA 1 Million prison which housed some of the worst villains in the entire galaxy (they trusted him to do it all by himself w/o any help, again). His tech made Kangs look retarded, plus he has an IQ of 1045.

dont try to tell me Kang has an IQ of 1045. Batman's IQ was so high, that he basically had pre-cog just based on his intelligence alone. heres some of bats feats which i posted earlier ^

I still say the Kang from "Avengers Forever" would match or take him.

Originally posted by Ext@nt
I still say the Kang from "Avengers Forever" would match or take him. you might be right, but only if Bats had no prep, and Kang had weeks or months of prep

Originally posted by Galan777
heres some of bats feats which i posted earlier ^

Mate what has he got that Kang hasnt got I dont get it. Remember just the fact that Kang is a time travel specialist in itself shows how intelligent he is.

Originally posted by Galan777
you might be right, but only if Bats had no prep, and Kang had weeks or months of prep

Why would he need prep?

Originally posted by Alfheim
Mate what has he got that Kang hasnt got I dont get it. Remember just the fact that Kang is a time travel specialist in itself shows how intelligent he is. and bats has a boom tube on his suit, plus with prep it would be nothing for him to obtain any number of devices from his colleauges

Kang has worked with many marvel villains in the past including Korvac, so by your reasoning he gets access to their stuff as well.

Originally posted by Galan777
and bats has a boom tube on his suit, plus with prep it would be nothing for him to obtain any number of devices from his colleauges

Yeah so? Theres nothing that bats has that Kang doesnt, in fact Kang seems more advanced.

Originally posted by Ext@nt
Kang has worked with many marvel villains in the past including Korvac, so by your reasoning he gets access to their stuff as well. My reasoning? the point is that even Doom and Reed together with the same ammount of prep couldnt beat Bats, but they could beat Kang easily..... you cant even try to tell me that where intelligence is concerned that Kangs can even remotely compare to Bats

Originally posted by Galan777
My reasoning? the point is that even Doom and Reed together with the same ammount of prep couldnt beat Bats,

Is this some DC Marvel crossover thingy?

By the way Bats live on a planet. Kang has bases in different realities and timelines. That makes Kang more advanced.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Is this some DC Marvel crossover thingy?

By the way Bats live on a planet. Kang has bases in different realities and timelines. That makes Kang more advanced. so now Kang has tech from the 853rd century?

Originally posted by Galan777
so now Kang has tech from the 853rd century?

That doesnt matter does Bats have tech like this...

Kang

Kang's primary base in 40th-century Other Earth is the Center, but he also maintains a secret dwelling in the realm known only as Purgatory, as well as strongholds in various alternate realties. His former base Chronopolis, powered by the Heart of Forever, served as a crossroads into virtually every era in human history, but lay just out of phase with the timestream and was therefore undetectable. Its palace and inhabitants were unaffected by temporal divergence or the passage of time. Kang formerly employed a 20' long space-worthy vehicle housing his time machine, which could reach all eras of all timelines by accessing the transtemporal realm of Limbo. Kang has used a number of other vessels, such as his Sphinx ship and Damocles Base, an immense sword-shaped orbiting headquarters.


If anything he could travel to that timeline if he wanted to anyway. Bats is not a time traveller.

Do you even know who Korvac is? If kang gets to use his tech bye bye bats.

Originally posted by Ext@nt
Do you even know who Korvac is? If kang gets to use his tech bye bye bats.

I do. Was Korvac like The Beyonder at one point? Im sorry but Kangs tech is more advanced from what I can see.

Originally posted by Alfheim
That doesnt matter does Bats have tech like this...

Kang

Kang's primary base in 40th-century Other Earth is the Center, but he also maintains a secret dwelling in the realm known only as Purgatory, as well as strongholds in various alternate realties. His former base Chronopolis, powered by the Heart of Forever, served as a crossroads into virtually every era in human history, but lay just out of phase with the timestream and was therefore undetectable. Its palace and inhabitants were unaffected by temporal divergence or the passage of time. Kang formerly employed a 20' long space-worthy vehicle housing his time machine, which could reach all eras of all timelines by accessing the transtemporal realm of Limbo. Kang has used a number of other vessels, such as his Sphinx ship and Damocles Base, an immense sword-shaped orbiting headquarters.


If anything he could travel to that timeline if he wanted to anyway. Bats is not a time traveller. Bats suit alone could beat Kang by that description....... Kang is from the 40th century, Bats is from the 853rd so obviously his tech will be more advanced...... and as i have already brought up, Bats can make Avatars of himself, how would kang do against 20 or 30 different Batman's fighting him at once...... Kang has no chance here

Originally posted by Galan777
Bats suit alone could beat Kang by that description....... Kang is from the 40th century, Bats is from the 853rd so obviously his tech will be more advanced...... and as i have already brought up, Bats can make Avatars of himself, how would kang do against 20 or 30 different Batman's fighting him at once...... Kang has no chance here

It does not matter what timeline Bats is from the fact of the matter is that he does not have tech to rival Kang. Bats does not have time travel equipment. Time travel is more complicated than making holographic avatars of yourself, Kang will be able to counter that with his equipment.

Originally posted by Alfheim
It does not matter what timeline Bats is from the fact of the matter is that he does not have tech to rival Kang. Bats does not have time travel equipment. Time travel is more complicated than making holographic avatars of yourself, Kang will be able to counter that with his equipment. Im sure he will , but its called "DC One Million," its actually a really good read you should pick it up...... I really dont care to argue this any further

Originally posted by Galan777
Im sure he will , but its called "DC One Million," its actually a really good read you should pick it up...... I really dont care to argue this any further

Well fine. I understand you're logic but I am just comparing both their techs and basically Kangs tech is more advanced despite the fact of his timeline.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Well fine. I understand you're logic but I am just comparing both their techs and basically Kangs tech is more advanced despite the fact of his timeline. I understand what you mean, but i could see this debate getting very heated, and ive never had a problem with you so i dont want to get in an argument........ But like i said its called "DC One Million" you should get it, it will help you understand these One Million characters much better

Originally posted by Galan777
I understand what you mean, but i could see this debate getting very heated, and ive never had a problem with you so i dont want to get in an argument........ But like i said its called "DC One Million" you should get it, it will help you understand these One Million characters much better

Well it wont get heated unless you start being rude. Anyway I will try and check the titles out.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Well it wont get heated unless you start being rude. Anyway I will try and check the titles out. you can pick up the TPB now, and its well worth buying, for me its just hard arguing bats 1million with someone that hasnt really read the series, because like i said he was only in like 3 or so issues, but he had no low showings to speak of.... and that bio dosent do him justice

Originally posted by Galan777
you can pick up the TPB now, and its well worth buying, for me its just hard arguing bats 1million with someone that hasnt really read the series, because like i said he was only in like 3 or so issues, but he had no low showings to speak of.... and that bio dosent do him justice

Fair enough.

Originally posted by Galan777
I know 1045 is a bit extreme on DC's part, but overall the DC One Million series was some of the best ive read as far as DC goes

I didn't even give my awnser in my rant. Kang wouldn't stand a chance against Bats 1 million. Bats 10/10

That character was ridiculous.

Originally posted by boriquaking55
I didn't even give my awnser in my rant. Kang wouldn't stand a chance against Bats 1 million. Bats 10/10

That character was ridiculous. Thank you! the people that havent read it, just wouldnt understand how badass bats was in that series you know?

I've read it and I still think Kang from Avengers Forever could win it. It would be the fight of his life but the tech he had in that series was insane.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Bats 1M does not have time travel equipment.

Yes he does.

Not on the level Kang does, read Avengers Forever.

Originally posted by Ext@nt
Not on the level Kang does, read Avengers Forever. I wouldnt be so sure

Originally posted by Ext@nt
Not on the level Kang does, read Avengers Forever.

I've read it. And nothing he's shown is even close to being above New Genesian tech.

Originally posted by batdude123
I've read it. And nothing he's shown is even close to being above New Genesian tech.

well to be fair - it's hard to compare tech from different universes. i.e. New Genesian and batman 1million tech have better feats than even Celestial tech - and that's just horribly written bullshit. No way that should even be remotely possible. In fact, it's just proof of the lunacy of the writing. Marvel keeps most of it's tech at least within reason.

Ok, talking feats and not hype. What has B1M done that puts him beyond Kang's level?

Batman 1M with ease.

Batman 1M steals his soul.
Ghostbusters-style.

I guess that when it comes to an uber DC characters hype beats feats.

Well, here in KMC, we don't talk only about feats.. we also deduct the full potential of what the character can do/use with his/her/their equipment.

Supes 1M has more than enough resources to put Kang down with his New Genesis tech.

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
Well, here in KMC, we don't talk only about feats.. we also deduct the full potential of what the character can do/use with his/her/their equipment.

Supes 1M has more than enough resources to put Kang down with his New Genesis tech.

Don't get me wrong, I think B1M wins, it just seems that people just don't debate anymore.

Kang can erase time-lines, duplicate himself, has knowledge worth of several life-times by alternate lives, can openly cheat death with just tech, and owns the resources of several million galactic empires across different time-lines. The thing is he holds back A LOT, in Kang Dynasty, Marcus suggested that they could just jump into the time stream, get reinforces and strike again to stomp Earth, Kang decided NOT to do it; by his own recognition, he wants his opponents to have a good chance of beating him, for the thrill of the conquest. Debating potential a blood lusted Kang would be several hundred times more dangerous that the Kang we know.

Originally posted by Bentley
Don't get me wrong, I think B1M wins, it just seems that people just don't debate anymore.

Kang can erase time-lines, duplicate himself, has knowledge worth of several life-times by alternate lives, can openly cheat death with just tech, and owns the resources of several million galactic empires across different time-lines. The thing is he holds back A LOT, in Kang Dynasty, Marcus suggested that they could just jump into the time stream, get reinforces and strike again to stomp Earth, Kang decided NOT to do it; by his own recognition, he wants his opponents to have a good chance of beating him, for the thrill of the conquest. Debating potential a blood lusted Kang would be several hundred times more dangerous that the Kang we know.
Don't get me wrong..
Kang is a beast.
He's like Dr. Doom, Ironman and Reed Richards mashed into one.

But against Bats 1M, I'm afraid he would lose.
I haven't seen EVERY showing of Kang the Conqueror, but if he has tech that could at least match New Genesis tech, then I would consider it a match.
Unfortunately, the latest showings of Kang's tech don't even compare with Bats 1M's. Even more so if we talk about their full potential.

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
Don't get me wrong..
Kang is a beast.
He's like Dr. Doom, Ironman and Reed Richards mashed into one.

But against Bats 1M, I'm afraid he would lose.
I haven't seen EVERY showing of Kang the Conqueror, but if he has tech that could at least match New Genesis tech, then I would consider it a match.
Unfortunately, the latest showings of Kang's tech don't even compare with Bats 1M's. Even more so if we talk about their full potential.


Kang's best tech is all related to time-travel in my opinion. He has excellent combat gadgets when it comes to hang and surpass herald levelers and being a team wrecker, but I wouldn't stack that against New Genesian tech. Erasing time-lines, stopping time, interacting with people from a different time synchrony and stuff like that.

Kang is good, he has built impressive stuff, but to face god's technology...

The sad thing is that its nothing special or exclusive of B1M. awesr

Originally posted by Bentley
Kang's best tech is all related to time-travel in my opinion. He has excellent combat gadgets when it comes to hang and surpass herald levelers and being a team wrecker, but I wouldn't stack that against New Genesian tech. Erasing time-lines, stopping time, interacting with people from a different time synchrony and stuff like that.

Kang is good, he has built impressive stuff, but to face god's technology...

The sad thing is that its nothing special or exclusive of B1M. awesr

Like stated above, he has access to NEW GOD tech. Probably the BEST tech in comics period. They've had time tech before Reed Richards or Kang were even conceived.

BTW, when everybody on earth has a Mother Box, you know the 853 Century is preped.

Batman 1 Million got punked by Epoch. Kang murders the sucker

you tell em Bents. nobody messes with the purple green time traveler

I definitely say Epoch is Kang's peer. Kang sucks tbh.

Originally posted by Golgo13
I definitely say Epoch is Kang's peer. Kang sucks tbh.

You wouldn't say that if he was from DC biscuits

Kang

Originally posted by Bentley
You wouldn't say that if he was from DC biscuits

If he was from DC, he would be overall more formidable. So, yes.

biscuits