Soljer
More than a versus thread (but that, too) I wanted to make this thread to discuss how/why Logan wins so god damned much.
Let me preface this by saying that I am ANYTHING but a Fanboy or a "Wolvie Hater." Ask around the forum, I've debated against Wolverine and for him, time and time again. I would like to consider myself impartial and unbiased (though I acknowledge the fact that NO ONE can claim true objectivity.)
Now, allow me to explain my position. Logan has six pointy things on the ends of his arms. These claws are as sharp as razors, and wholly indestructible (save for EXTREME cases - abstracts, Skyfathers, etc.). Now, being stabbed by any one of these six claws (assuming they hit a vital area) is nearly a death warrant for most characters. Logan is also very skilled (even if I don't personally believe he shows much skill in his fights, he knows where to strike. It's perscribed to him, and has been as much of a power for him as his 'healing factor').
Thus? Logan can hit these vital areas. And, even if he CAN'T pinpoint them, the human body has enough of them that a slash should touch something.
Lets ignore any of Logan's other characteristics, and just look at his claws now, if I may:
What are the defenses against ANYONE just slashing randomly with a machete(not to mention six of them that can cut through steel)?
Well, the first (and foremost) would be distance. Anyone who can strike at a distance can end the guy. Anyone who doesn't NEED to strike at all (Elementals, or Telepaths) can take him.
The second defense against a machete-wielding maniac? Speed. Anyone who is just THAT much faster than the guy, who can't be hit by him? Yeah, he can take him.
Third? Durability. Colossus level durability or higher, it would seem. Can't be cut by the machete? What's the fear of it?
Lastly; a healing factor. If the Machete cut doesn't phase you, what's the problem?
Quasi-last? An immune physiology. I consider this only 'quasi,' because it somewhat falls under either Durability or a Healing factor. I only include it because some beings may simply not be harmed by bladed weapons.
Let us continue with these defenses in mind.
This means that, realistically, if a maniac with Logan's claws came up against ANYONE that lacked the above attributes, he could likely win at least a few times, yes? Assuming, of course, that this person has to get in to do damage and is neither inhumanly durable nor fast, nor does this person have a healing factor - no matter their other attributes. They could be stronger than superman, and it would simply be a one hit win, for either combatant.
This brings me to my next point: (for all of those who now think Im a wolverine fanboy) Logan's skill means dick. Really, it does. Considering that a loser off the streets could do just about as well against people as Logan does...what the hell does it matter? Except in the RARE instances where he is depowered.
There. Now that I've calmed the angry mob (throw down the pitchforks).
Let's look at Logan's defenses.
First, an incredibly rapid healing factor. Ignoring both the highest and lowest showings, Logan's healing factor is still amazing, if inconsistent. Should Logan be able to be knocked out by a few bullets? Well...how large, how fast, and how well placed are these bullets?
. Should he be knocked out by a few randomly placed on his torso? Not likely. His healing factor CAN be overloaded, though, and this has happened a few times. In fact, Wolverine would EASILY be taken down through dismemberment if not for his second defense.
His lovely adamantium skeleton. It prevents every bone in his body from breaking when he gets bitchslapped by the Juggernaut/the Hulk/Sentry, and it also keeps away those naughty dismemberment ideas.
So, let's see...to put logan down (still assuming we don't have the distance advantage, or a power advantage like a telepath or an elemental), we have to do a MASSIVE amount of damage to him, while being unable to effect his bones. Hmm...what is the easiest way to do so? Constant evisceration and disembowlment is one idea, no bones in your guts, after all. It might take a couple times of Logan's intestines spilling out onto the ground to do so, though. We could always go with blunt force, but the no bone breaking rule kinda gets in the way of that. Theoretically, though, enough repeated force WOULD knock logan out. So, let's get someone really strong to do so. Only thing is, he's been beat on by the Hulk, and then he's been beat on by Daredevil. His healing factor. Inconsistency. *sighs*. Therein lies the main problem, I would imagine.
Let us move on, though, to my ACTUAL point.
I theorize that Wolverine(or ANYONE with some sharp knives, an unbreakable skeleton, and a healing factor) should be able to take down a brawler at LEAST 3/10, assuming that brawler isn't incredibly fast, incredibly durable, or in possession of a healing factor. Why? Because even if the guy can press ten trillion tons, a huge gaping hole where their chest used to be isn't gonna be too pretty - it would be up to whoever struck first, really.
This is in reference to all the wolverine fanboys, all the wolverine haters, and threads like "Wolverine vs. Hercules."
Let me finish with a little bit of an FAQ :
Does Wolverine get hyped up, quite often, because he is popular?
**** YES!
On the other side, though, does he get underated now and again, due to his ridiculous popularity, and perhaps in response to the above overhyping?
Yeah. It happens.
Can Wolverine heal from a skeleton?
No.
Can Wolverine be put down with a simple, everyday, barrage of bullets?
No.
Should 100-tonners be able to one-shot Logan?
Yes.
Do they?
No.
Because of his abilities or because of his popularity?
A little from column A, a little from column B.
FANBOY!
That wasn't a question, get over yourself.
HATER!
See above.
And lastly(and controversially as of recent):
Can Wolverine Dodge bullets?
No, but bullets can job to wolverine.
EDIT: Just wanted to apologize for the rough-around-the-edges nature of this, the hastily done feel. Forgive my occasional, probable, incoherence. Thanks for the read! And feel free to put up any brawlers against Logan (assuming they don't have any of the crucial defenses,
), and we'll get some fanboys and some haters in here debating for the next eighty pages or so. 
Let me preface this by saying that I am ANYTHING but a Fanboy or a "Wolvie Hater." Ask around the forum, I've debated against Wolverine and for him, time and time again. I would like to consider myself impartial and unbiased (though I acknowledge the fact that NO ONE can claim true objectivity.)
Now, allow me to explain my position. Logan has six pointy things on the ends of his arms. These claws are as sharp as razors, and wholly indestructible (save for EXTREME cases - abstracts, Skyfathers, etc.). Now, being stabbed by any one of these six claws (assuming they hit a vital area) is nearly a death warrant for most characters. Logan is also very skilled (even if I don't personally believe he shows much skill in his fights, he knows where to strike. It's perscribed to him, and has been as much of a power for him as his 'healing factor').
Thus? Logan can hit these vital areas. And, even if he CAN'T pinpoint them, the human body has enough of them that a slash should touch something.
Lets ignore any of Logan's other characteristics, and just look at his claws now, if I may:
What are the defenses against ANYONE just slashing randomly with a machete(not to mention six of them that can cut through steel)?
Well, the first (and foremost) would be distance. Anyone who can strike at a distance can end the guy. Anyone who doesn't NEED to strike at all (Elementals, or Telepaths) can take him.
The second defense against a machete-wielding maniac? Speed. Anyone who is just THAT much faster than the guy, who can't be hit by him? Yeah, he can take him.
Third? Durability. Colossus level durability or higher, it would seem. Can't be cut by the machete? What's the fear of it?
Lastly; a healing factor. If the Machete cut doesn't phase you, what's the problem?
Quasi-last? An immune physiology. I consider this only 'quasi,' because it somewhat falls under either Durability or a Healing factor. I only include it because some beings may simply not be harmed by bladed weapons.
Let us continue with these defenses in mind.
This means that, realistically, if a maniac with Logan's claws came up against ANYONE that lacked the above attributes, he could likely win at least a few times, yes? Assuming, of course, that this person has to get in to do damage and is neither inhumanly durable nor fast, nor does this person have a healing factor - no matter their other attributes. They could be stronger than superman, and it would simply be a one hit win, for either combatant.
This brings me to my next point: (for all of those who now think Im a wolverine fanboy) Logan's skill means dick. Really, it does. Considering that a loser off the streets could do just about as well against people as Logan does...what the hell does it matter? Except in the RARE instances where he is depowered.
There. Now that I've calmed the angry mob (throw down the pitchforks).
Let's look at Logan's defenses.
First, an incredibly rapid healing factor. Ignoring both the highest and lowest showings, Logan's healing factor is still amazing, if inconsistent. Should Logan be able to be knocked out by a few bullets? Well...how large, how fast, and how well placed are these bullets?
. Should he be knocked out by a few randomly placed on his torso? Not likely. His healing factor CAN be overloaded, though, and this has happened a few times. In fact, Wolverine would EASILY be taken down through dismemberment if not for his second defense. His lovely adamantium skeleton. It prevents every bone in his body from breaking when he gets bitchslapped by the Juggernaut/the Hulk/Sentry, and it also keeps away those naughty dismemberment ideas.
So, let's see...to put logan down (still assuming we don't have the distance advantage, or a power advantage like a telepath or an elemental), we have to do a MASSIVE amount of damage to him, while being unable to effect his bones. Hmm...what is the easiest way to do so? Constant evisceration and disembowlment is one idea, no bones in your guts, after all. It might take a couple times of Logan's intestines spilling out onto the ground to do so, though. We could always go with blunt force, but the no bone breaking rule kinda gets in the way of that. Theoretically, though, enough repeated force WOULD knock logan out. So, let's get someone really strong to do so. Only thing is, he's been beat on by the Hulk, and then he's been beat on by Daredevil. His healing factor. Inconsistency. *sighs*. Therein lies the main problem, I would imagine.
Let us move on, though, to my ACTUAL point.
I theorize that Wolverine(or ANYONE with some sharp knives, an unbreakable skeleton, and a healing factor) should be able to take down a brawler at LEAST 3/10, assuming that brawler isn't incredibly fast, incredibly durable, or in possession of a healing factor. Why? Because even if the guy can press ten trillion tons, a huge gaping hole where their chest used to be isn't gonna be too pretty - it would be up to whoever struck first, really.
This is in reference to all the wolverine fanboys, all the wolverine haters, and threads like "Wolverine vs. Hercules."
Let me finish with a little bit of an FAQ :
Does Wolverine get hyped up, quite often, because he is popular?
**** YES!
On the other side, though, does he get underated now and again, due to his ridiculous popularity, and perhaps in response to the above overhyping?
Yeah. It happens.
Can Wolverine heal from a skeleton?
No.
Can Wolverine be put down with a simple, everyday, barrage of bullets?
No.
Should 100-tonners be able to one-shot Logan?
Yes.
Do they?
No.
Because of his abilities or because of his popularity?
A little from column A, a little from column B.
FANBOY!
That wasn't a question, get over yourself.
HATER!
See above.
And lastly(and controversially as of recent):
Can Wolverine Dodge bullets?
No, but bullets can job to wolverine.
EDIT: Just wanted to apologize for the rough-around-the-edges nature of this, the hastily done feel. Forgive my occasional, probable, incoherence. Thanks for the read! And feel free to put up any brawlers against Logan (assuming they don't have any of the crucial defenses,
), and we'll get some fanboys and some haters in here debating for the next eighty pages or so. 
Everyone just jumped to the conclusion they had uber-over powered him again but all should be explained hopefully 
