Darkseid vs. Apocalypse H2H

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SpunkySmurph
Just like it sounds...

Non jobbing Apoc
No Omega beams, or anything other then H2H, physical powers

Who wins?
Why?

Tron
Who wins? Darkseid.

Why? Check his respect thread.

celestialdemon
As much as I like Apocalypse, he gets stomped by Darkseid.

Soljer
Haha, Apocalypse would get stomped by an avatar, much less the real deal. stick out tongue.

guy222
DS

Dark-Jaxx
ROFL, I like Apoc, but he can't win this.

Bad Ash231
El apocalipsis asesina Darkseid. sombrero2

Unnatural-POWER

Bad Ash231

batdude123
Originally posted by Bad Ash231
El apocalipsis asesina Darkseid. sombrero2

Originally posted by Bad Ash231
Darkseid is a pansy in physical combat. no expression


Batman can make him bleed....

Are you f*ckin' kidding me? erm

Apocalypse gets stomped.

quanchi112
Darkseid wins.

Dark-Jaxx
Originally posted by Bad Ash231
Darkseid is a pansy in physical combat. no expression


Batman can make him bleed.... ....You ARE joking, right?

Unnatural-POWER
Originally posted by Bad Ash231
Darkseid is a pansy in physical combat. no expression


Batman can make him bleed....

I dont see how Apocalypse could even hurt Darkseid to be honest.

Bad Ash231
Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
....You ARE joking, right?

Originally posted by Unnatural-POWER
I dont see how Apocalypse could even hurt Darkseid to be honest.

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/2314/darkseidbatkickedinthefeh3.png

iceman24567
Originally posted by Bad Ash231
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/2314/darkseidbatkickedinthefeh3.png We all know Bat-kick = a big bang.

Xplosive
Both at their best, Darkseid demolishes him, even with only physical strength.

batdude123
Originally posted by Bad Ash231
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/2314/darkseidbatkickedinthefeh3.png

*shows the scan of Apocalypse dodging a table*

erm

Don't be a fanboy.

Seriously, even Xplosive admits Apocalypse loses...

Originally posted by Xplosive
Both at their best, Darkseid demolishes him, even with only physical strength.

xmarksthespot
Lulz.

Bad Ash231
Originally posted by batdude123
*shows the scan of Apocalypse dodging a table*

Which only showed good reflexes...

Originally posted by batdude123
erm

Don't be a fanboy.

No u. angryfist

batdude123
Originally posted by Bad Ash231
Which only showed good reflexes...

Sure it does...

Originally posted by Bad Ash231
No u. angryfist

Apocalypse gets shit stomped.

Bad Ash231
Originally posted by StylishSmurph
Just like it sounds...

Non jobbing Apoc
No Omega beams, or anything other then H2H, physical powers

Who wins?
Why?

How the hell can't Apoc win this?

Unnatural-POWER
Id consider Darkseid several leagues above Apocalypse in terms of power.
Physically speaking, Apocalypse wouldnt know what hit him!

Bad Ash231
Originally posted by batdude123
Sure it does...

Yeah it does...





Magnetophile.

batdude123
Originally posted by Bad Ash231
How the hell can't Apoc win this?

Thanks, I read the OP.

Apocalypse can't win this because he's simply outgunned in the physical department.

Originally posted by Bad Ash231
Yeah it does...

Lulz. smile

Bad Ash231
Originally posted by batdude123
Thanks, I read the OP.

Apocalypse can't win this because he's simply outgunned in the physical department.

Going by "physical powers", doesn't Apoc get his shape-shifting powers?

Originally posted by batdude123
Lulz. smile

Sym agrees... smile

batdude123
Originally posted by Bad Ash231
Going by "physical powers", doesn't Apoc get his shape-shifting powers?

And? Do you even know the caliber of people Darkseid has owned physically?

It's not as if Apocalypse is immune to physical damage. He's not fighting Ikaris or Loki here. He's fighting Darkseid.

Bad Ash231
Originally posted by batdude123
And?

And Apocalypse should quite frankly rip Dougseid to pieces with the versatility of his shape-shifting powers...

Originally posted by batdude123
Do you even know the caliber of people Darkseid has owned physically?

Darkseid has owned someone? Physically?

Originally posted by batdude123
It's not as if Apocalypse is immune to physical damage. He's not fighting Ikaris or Loki here. He's fighting Darkseid.

Doesn't matter anyway. HeroChat has brainwashed me....

En Sabah Nur X
Apc

quanchi112
Originally posted by En Sabah Nur X
Apc Cant win. stick out tongue Darkseid can go toe to toe with Superman physically. Apoc isnt cut out for these types of characters.

Bad Ash231
Originally posted by quanchi112
Darkseid can go toe to toe with Superman physically.

And lose. msn-oh

batdude123
Originally posted by Bad Ash231
And Apocalypse should quite frankly rip Dougseid to pieces with the versatility of his shape-shifting powers...

I thought you were smarter than this...

Originally posted by Bad Ash231
Darkseid has owned someone? Physically?

crylaugh

I rest my case. A complete ignorance of the character.

Darkseid owns him physically 10/10.

Bad Ash231
Originally posted by batdude123
I rest my case. A complete ignorance of the character.

Darkseid owns him physically 10/10.

...What?


Who has he defeated physically?

quanchi112
Originally posted by Bad Ash231
And lose. msn-oh He has also won. I cant see Apocalypse winning one single time against the man of steel.

Bad Ash231
Originally posted by quanchi112
He has also won.

OWAW?

quanchi112
Originally posted by Bad Ash231
OWAW? Superman has been bitchslapped to the ground before by him which is something Apoc couldnt accomplish in his wettest dreams. Apoc couldnt even stalemate him..once. Not even one single time.

Bad Ash231
Originally posted by quanchi112
Superman has been bitchslapped to the ground before by him which is something Apoc couldnt accomplish in his wettest dreams.

lol

Slap Superman down to the ground for a moment?


Anyone with super strength could accomplish that.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Apoc couldnt even stalemate him..once. Not even one single time.

Apoc could hang with Superman for a while...

llagrok
Apoc is in trouble

Bad Ash231
Originally posted by llagrok
Apoc is in trouble

But he'll handle Thanos better?


I guess that finally proves Darkeid >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanos


dur

llagrok
Originally posted by Bad Ash231
But he'll handle Thanos better?


I guess that finally proves Darkeid >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanos


dur

Don't start with me boy...

Mindset
OOOOOOO

quanchi112
Originally posted by Bad Ash231
lol

Slap Superman down to the ground for a moment?


Anyone with super strength could accomplish that.



Apoc could hang with Superman for a while... Apoc maybe could hang with him for a bit but as I said couldnt even hope of stalemating him.

Papa Smurph
Apoc 8/10

batdude123
Originally posted by Bad Ash231
...What?


Who has he defeated physically?

You're kidding, right?

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Ko's Kalibak with a backhand.

http://img520.imageshack.us/my.php?image=f9e2aa31jpgorig9ct.jpg

Manhandled Superman for a bit.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid66/pd55a9f60974c3f94b66f685071686e58/fbdd8646.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid66/p7c18e8b452cb9333381c18e72b82bc42/fbdd81d1.jpg

Lobo tries hitting Darkseid many times but just hurts his hand.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid68/p7dd906736ac2be9d03280421467fc339/fbbed87d.jpg

Pimp smacks Wonder Woman like nothing.

http://img362.imageshack.us/my.php?image=darkseid16en.jpg

Ko's Captain Atom with a backhand.

http://img362.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jlaannual09362yq1xb.jpg

After shrugging off a blast from the Astro Force, Darkseid easily KO's Orion with a backhand.

http://img383.imageshack.us/my.php?image=legion29198rc.jpg

Darkseid take Kara's hit to no effect, in fact safely walking away with his hands crossed behind his back as she attacks him:

http://img56.imageshack.us/my.php?image=darkseid4ln.jpg
http://img60.imageshack.us/my.php?image=superboy07nl.jpg

Swats a young Superman with incredible ease.

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/558/95632330jx0.jpg

Bitchslaps Mantis:

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Darkseid/darkseidslapsmantis.jpg

Owns the shit out of Slig who earlier almost wrecked Earth. He's also said to have Superman level strength.

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Darkseid/darkseidslig.jpg

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Also, apparently he has "microsecond" reaction timing.

http://s160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Darkseid/?action=view&current=darkseidmicrosecondreactions.jpg

So like I said, Apocalypse isn't fighting Ikaris or Loki here. He's fighting someone much more physically dominate than he himself is. Apocalypse gets manhandled 10/10. The idea of him being able to defeat a stronger, more skilled, and more experienced combatant (Darkseid) without the feats to back it up is laughable.

Capt Spaulding
stop trying to bait trickster, despite how easy it is barker

Darkseid wins every time

quanchi112
Originally posted by batdude123
You're kidding, right?

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Ko's Kalibak with a backhand.

http://img520.imageshack.us/my.php?image=f9e2aa31jpgorig9ct.jpg

Manhandled Superman for a bit.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid66/pd55a9f60974c3f94b66f685071686e58/fbdd8646.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid66/p7c18e8b452cb9333381c18e72b82bc42/fbdd81d1.jpg

Lobo tries hitting Darkseid many times but just hurts his hand.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid68/p7dd906736ac2be9d03280421467fc339/fbbed87d.jpg

Pimp smacks Wonder Woman like nothing.

http://img362.imageshack.us/my.php?image=darkseid16en.jpg

Ko's Captain Atom with a backhand.

http://img362.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jlaannual09362yq1xb.jpg

After shrugging off a blast from the Astro Force, Darkseid easily KO's Orion with a backhand.

http://img383.imageshack.us/my.php?image=legion29198rc.jpg

Darkseid take Kara's hit to no effect, in fact safely walking away with his hands crossed behind his back as she attacks him:

http://img56.imageshack.us/my.php?image=darkseid4ln.jpg
http://img60.imageshack.us/my.php?image=superboy07nl.jpg

Swats a young Superman with incredible ease.

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/558/95632330jx0.jpg

Bitchslaps Mantis:

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Darkseid/darkseidslapsmantis.jpg

Owns the shit out of Slig who earlier almost wrecked Earth. He's also said to have Superman level strength.

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Darkseid/darkseidslig.jpg

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Also, apparently he has "microsecond" reaction timing.

http://s160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Darkseid/?action=view&current=darkseidmicrosecondreactions.jpg

So like I said, Apocalypse isn't fighting Ikaris or Loki here. He's fighting someone much more physically dominate than he himself is. Apocalypse gets manhandled 10/10. The idea of him being able to defeat a stronger, more skilled, and more experienced combatant (Darkseid) without the feats to back it up is laughable. I dont see any Apoc backers even trying to dispute this.

TricksterPriest
I can see Apoc hurting Thanos (given the stips). I can even see him pissing Thanos off. But he's not gonna win.

quanchi112
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
I can see Apoc hurting Thanos (given the stips). I can even see him pissing Thanos off. But he's not gonna win. This is the Darkseid thread. erm

TricksterPriest
durpot

quanchi112
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
durpot eek!

psycho gundam
Originally posted by batdude123
You're kidding, right?

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Ko's Kalibak with a backhand.

http://img520.imageshack.us/my.php?image=f9e2aa31jpgorig9ct.jpg

Manhandled Superman for a bit.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid66/pd55a9f60974c3f94b66f685071686e58/fbdd8646.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid66/p7c18e8b452cb9333381c18e72b82bc42/fbdd81d1.jpg

Lobo tries hitting Darkseid many times but just hurts his hand.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid68/p7dd906736ac2be9d03280421467fc339/fbbed87d.jpg

Pimp smacks Wonder Woman like nothing.

http://img362.imageshack.us/my.php?image=darkseid16en.jpg

Ko's Captain Atom with a backhand.

http://img362.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jlaannual09362yq1xb.jpg

After shrugging off a blast from the Astro Force, Darkseid easily KO's Orion with a backhand.

http://img383.imageshack.us/my.php?image=legion29198rc.jpg

Darkseid take Kara's hit to no effect, in fact safely walking away with his hands crossed behind his back as she attacks him:

http://img56.imageshack.us/my.php?image=darkseid4ln.jpg
http://img60.imageshack.us/my.php?image=superboy07nl.jpg

Swats a young Superman with incredible ease.

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/558/95632330jx0.jpg

Bitchslaps Mantis:

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Darkseid/darkseidslapsmantis.jpg

Owns the shit out of Slig who earlier almost wrecked Earth. He's also said to have Superman level strength.

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Darkseid/darkseidslig.jpg

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Also, apparently he has "microsecond" reaction timing.

http://s160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Darkseid/?action=view&current=darkseidmicrosecondreactions.jpg

So like I said, Apocalypse isn't fighting Ikaris or Loki here. He's fighting someone much more physically dominate than he himself is. Apocalypse gets manhandled 10/10. The idea of him being able to defeat a stronger, more skilled, and more experienced combatant (Darkseid) without the feats to back it up is laughable. basically this was a display of back hands. um not very assuring for the darkseid win

Laguna L
Originally posted by StylishSmurph
Just like it sounds...

Non jobbing Apoc
No Omega beams, or anything other then H2H, physical powers

Who wins?
Why?

Darkseid.

Bad Ash231
Originally posted by batdude123
Lobo tries hitting Darkseid many times but just hurts his hand.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid68/p7dd906736ac2be9d03280421467fc339/fbbed87d.jpg

erm

Lobo's strength varies from human to Superman levels.


And Superman has blinded Darkseid when punching him in the face...

Originally posted by batdude123
Pimp smacks Wonder Woman like nothing.

http://img362.imageshack.us/my.php?image=darkseid16en.jpg

I'm pretty sure that's not canon... since it's from the Rock of Ages...

Originally posted by batdude123
Ko's Captain Atom with a backhand.

http://img362.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jlaannual09362yq1xb.jpg

Poor art.

Looks like Darkseid is stretching his arms... ermm

Originally posted by batdude123
Swats a young Superman with incredible ease.

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/558/95632330jx0.jpg

Yeah, yeah... we all know how Superman and Darkseid fights turns out now days...

Originally posted by batdude123
Owns the shit out of Slig who earlier almost wrecked Earth. He's also said to have Superman level strength.

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Darkseid/darkseidslig.jpg

Slig is a minion of Darkseid, isn't he? barker

Originally posted by batdude123
So like I said, Apocalypse isn't fighting Ikaris or Loki here.

Apocalypse has punked Namor with a punch... while underwater.


He has restrained the overly strong Heroes Reborn Hulk, who was struggling to break free...



Also, Ikaris is pretty iffy... going by feats...

Bad Ash231
Originally posted by Bad Ash231
Going by "physical powers", doesn't Apoc get his shape-shifting powers?

Originally posted by batdude123
And?

Oh I forgot...


Apoc shapeshifts into stairs ftw.



Or just turn his hand into a shovel....



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Papa Smurph
Originally posted by quanchi112
I dont see any Apoc backers even trying to dispute this.

Because the stuff is either out of canon or stuff Apoc could do himself.

All that's missing is a another nail reference and topic will be complete.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Because the stuff is either out of canon or stuff Apoc could do himself.

All that's missing is a another nail reference and topic will be complete. Uhm nope. Apoc isnt at Darkseid's level. No he is far from it.

TricksterPriest
Ash, I proved Rock of Ages was canon awhile ago. Don't make me bring out the scan. miffed

llagrok
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Ash, I proved Rock of Ages was canon awhile ago. Don't make me bring out the scan. miffed
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Ash, can I blame Storm and Black Panther for being black? laughing out loud

tsk tsk tsk

Mr. Slippyfist
Originally posted by Bad Ash231
Apocalypse has punked Namor with a punch... while underwater.

Originally posted by Bad Ash231
I'm pretty sure that's not canon... since it's from the House of M...

Bad Ash231
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Ash, I proved Rock of Ages was canon awhile ago. Don't make me bring out the scan. miffed

Rock of Ages is out of continuity, despite there are people that actually remember what went down.




Besides, in the Rock of Ages, Darkseid was beaten by the Atom and Green Arrow... ermmgay

Bad Ash231
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist


House of M is non canon?

Mr. Slippyfist
Originally posted by Bad Ash231
House of M is non canon? To 616 Apoc... and I don't honestly believe you're being serious at this point.

Although, I'd like to know your motives behind this...

LORD B
Originally posted by Bad Ash231
House of M is non canon?
is apoc one shoting namor out of water from house of m/

Bad Ash231
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
To 616 Apoc... and I don't honestly believe you're being serious at this point.

Although, I'd like to know your motives behind this...

confused

batdude123

Mindset
And about the Lobo thing, it's not that his strength just switches from low to high for no reason, it matches the person he is fighting. Which is why he can fight Superman and smack him around, but at the same time fight Batman and not explode his head with a punch.

batdude123
Originally posted by Mindset
And about the Lobo thing, it's not that his strength just switches from low to high for no reason, it matches the person he is fighting. Which is why he can fight Superman and smack him around, but at the same time fight Batman and not explode his head with a punch.

Batman takes class 100 punches all the time. It's in part due to the armor he wears. But regardless, there's no need to get off topic...

Bad Ash231

Mindset
Originally posted by batdude123
Batman takes class 100 punches all the time. It's in part due to the armor he wears. But regardless, there's no need to get off topic...

Batman can't take punches from the a fighter with Superman level strength who is not holding back, I don't care what kind of armor he is wearing.

batdude123
Originally posted by Bad Ash231
Oh Noes!!!11!!1!!One!! You got me.

I know. angel

Originally posted by Bad Ash231
Like I said, I've been brainwashed by HeroChat.... Darkseid just sucks. ka-dur

Ah... right.

Originally posted by Bad Ash231
What?


I'm desperate here.

I can tell. haermm2

Originally posted by Bad Ash231
Never mind.

Sexcellent.

Originally posted by Bad Ash231
I used the feat for debates once... but then in a thread, you said that Superman wasn't in top shape or something because he had briefly fought... oh what was it, Imperiex probes?

Granted, he might have been a little fatigued after fighting the Probes, however before his encounter with Darkseid, he was able to knock Kalibak the f*ck out with a few punches.

I doubt any of it had a negative effect on Superman's "invulnerability" prior to his encounter with Darkseid.

Originally posted by Bad Ash231
How isn't canon?

Apparently 616 Apocalypse didn't do it? srug

Originally posted by Bad Ash231
Darkseid slapping people = 10/10 victory? thorinn

That was merely to show how easily Darkseid can dispose of high level characters.

He has good skills and a lot of experience. That coupled with his "microsecond" reaction timing and he takes this 10/10. 313

batdude123
Originally posted by Mindset
Batman can't take punches from the a fighter with Superman level strength who is not holding back, I don't care what kind of armor he is wearing.

Countless amounts of on-panel evidence suggests you're wrong. smile

Mindset
Originally posted by batdude123
Countless amounts of on-panel evidence suggests you're wrong. smile

Because a lot of fighters with Superman level strength has hit him without any adverse effect?

batdude123
Originally posted by Mindset
Because a lot of fighters with Superman level strength has hit him without any ill effect?

Yes.

However, like I said, I don't wish to delve into a subject that is off-topic. smile

Priest
BatMan takes class 100 punches like Captain America...
Thats how it is because its just comics.

Bad Ash231
Originally posted by batdude123
Apparently 616 Apocalypse didn't do it? srug

Wasn't HoM basically just the main 616 verse with every character's memory erased?

Xplosive
Originally posted by Bad Ash231
Wasn't HoM basically just the main 616 verse with every character's memory erased?

616 Apocalypse was actually dead when HOM was happening.
That was HOM Apocalypse.
He revived after HOM.
HOM Apocalypse shouldn't be used.

Bad Ash231
Originally posted by Xplosive
616 Apocalypse was actually dead when HOM was happening.
That was HOM Apocalypse.
He revived after HOM.
HOM Apocalypse shouldn't be used.

So... Apocalypse was just resurrected during the HoM then. srug

Xplosive
Originally posted by Bad Ash231
So... Apocalypse was just resurrected during the HoM then. srug

Something like that. And he never shown to be capable or powerful as 616 Apocalypse.
So, HoM Apocalypse shouldn't be used.
I know BB scream is powerful, but it was whisper that should and could never destroy 616 Apocalypse like he did it to HoM Apocalypse.

Bad Ash231
Originally posted by Xplosive
Something like that. And he never shown to be capable or powerful as 616 Apocalypse.
So, HoM Apocalypse shouldn't be used.

"HoM Apocalypse"? You make it sound like it was an alternative reality...

Xplosive
Originally posted by Bad Ash231
"HoM Apocalypse"? You make it sound like it was an alternative reality...

But it was different Apocalypse. Did he shown anything as 616? No.
Post-M day, when majority mutants lost their powers, Apocalypse revived and had a goal to save mutantkind, in his own way.

I know BB scream is powerful, but it was whisper that should and could never destroy 616 Apocalypse like he did it to HoM Apocalypse.

Bad Ash231
Originally posted by Xplosive
But it was different Apocalypse.

In what way?

Originally posted by Xplosive
Did he shown anything as 616? No.

It was not an alternate reality/timeline for Christ's shake, just the regular world and character memories instantly shifted to reflect a (theoretical) change in human/mutant relationships as if it originated 20 years back or so, but really occurring instantly without change in time.

Originally posted by Xplosive
I know BB scream is powerful, but it was whisper that should and could never destroy 616 Apocalypse like he did it to HoM Apocalypse.

I think you mean BB's voice...

Xplosive
Originally posted by Bad Ash231
In what way?

It was alternate version of Apocalypse. You even have bios of Apocalypse (AoA), of Apocalypse (HoM), Apocalypse (616),
Apocalypse (Mutant X).

Originally posted by Bad Ash231
I think you mean BB's voice...

Yeah, that was far and .................... far from a scream. And he was completely destroyed.

Ash, if you are giving HoM Apocalypse in the same basket as 616, why are you debating in this thread, that he has a chance against Thanos, even in physical department.
From what was shown from HoM Apocalypse (for you, he is the same like 616), he doesn't have 0.0000000000000000000000001% to survive first minute against Thanos in H2H.

And the debate about Apocalypse and Magneto, about who is more powerful, should immediately end, because HoM Apocalypse was actually working for Magnus, because of losing to him in HoM reality.

HoM in some way, was actually alternate reality to 616, because Wanda change it (from 616 to her own way), it became different as 616, different rules, different characters, everything was pretty much different, right? Yes, it is.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Xplosive
It was alternate version of Apocalypse. You even have bios of Apocalypse (AoA), of Apocalypse (HoM), Apocalypse (616),
Apocalypse (Mutant X).



Yeah, that was far and .................... far from a scream. And he was completely destroyed.

Ash, if you are giving HoM Apocalypse in the same basket as 616, why are you debating in this thread, that he has a chance against Thanos, even in physical department.
From what was shown from HoM Apocalypse (for you, he is the same like 616), he doesn't have 0.0000000000000000000000001% to survive first minute against Thanos in H2H.

And the debate about Apocalypse and Magneto, about who is more powerful, should immediately end, because HoM Apocalypse was actually working for Magnus, because of losing to him in HoM reality.

HoM in some way, was actually alternate reality to 616, because Wanda change it (from 616 to her own way), it became different as 616, different rules, different characters, everything was pretty much different, right? Yes, it is. Ownage.

llagrok
The HoM profiles listed Apocalypse's powers as molecular control and nothing more. So he's definitely not the same as the 616 version.

Bad Ash231
Originally posted by Xplosive
Ash, if you are giving HoM Apocalypse in the same basket as 616, why are you debating in this thread, that he has a chance against Thanos, even in physical department.

From what was shown from HoM Apocalypse (for you, he is the same like 616), he doesn't have 0.0000000000000000000000001% to survive first minute against Thanos in H2H.

Thanos? This is the Darkseid thread.

Originally posted by Xplosive
And the debate about Apocalypse and Magneto, about who is more powerful, should immediately end, because HoM Apocalypse was actually working for Magnus, because of losing to him in HoM reality.

Originally posted by Xplosive
HoM in some way, was actually alternate reality to 616, because Wanda change it (from 616 to her own way), it became different as 616, different rules, different characters, everything was pretty much different, right? Yes, it is.

So, basically, what you're saying is that it's an alternative reality, because Apoc looked bad in it?

Bad Ash231
Originally posted by quanchi112
Ownage.

laughing out loud

Originally posted by llagrok
The HoM profiles listed Apocalypse's powers as molecular control and nothing more. So he's definitely not the same as the 616 version.

His normal bios doesn't actually mention anything besides molecular control...

quanchi112
Was Apoc oneshotted into oblivion during hom or was it another story? I am referring to the Apoc that shit his pants when Blackbolt showed up.

Bad Ash231
Originally posted by quanchi112
Was Apoc oneshotted into oblivion during hom or was it another story? I am referring to the Apoc that shit his pants when Blackbolt showed up.

HoM.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Bad Ash231
HoM. Why woul dyou want to bring in this Apoc into this fight. I mean Blackbolt made him look absolutely pathetic.

TricksterPriest
As previously said, HoM does not count. And any version of Apoc dies here.

Bad Ash231
Originally posted by quanchi112
Why woul dyou want to bring in this Apoc into this fight. I mean Blackbolt made him look absolutely pathetic.

It's fugin Black Bolt for starters.



And why should I care?

Bad Ash231
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
As previously said, HoM does not count.

And why is that?

TricksterPriest
................jesus christ man. Give it up. no expression Scarlet ***** warped reality and created an alternate timeline. Alot of characters got screwed there, not just Apoc.

Stop abusing Apoc by pitting him against guys out of his weight class.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Bad Ash231
It's fugin Black Bolt for starters.



And why should I care? Blackbolt isnt even in the league of Darkseid and if he could do that to Apoc. What do you think Ds would do to him.

Bad Ash231
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
................jesus christ man. Give it up. no expression Scarlet ***** warped reality and created an alternate timeline. Alot of characters got screwed there, not just Apoc.

The only things that Scarlet Witch changed in the 616 verse were the last 20 years of history. Unless something happened to visibly change their powers in that time (Peter Parker not being bitten by a spider) the characters remained at their usual power-levels, especially a thousands of years old one like Apocalypse.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Stop abusing Apoc by pitting him against guys out of his weight class.

Tell that to Bran and Smurph. ermm

Originally posted by quanchi112
Blackbolt isnt even in the league of Darkseid and if he could do that to Apoc. What do you think Ds would do to him.

What do you think Black Bolt would do to Darkseid? no expression

Xplosive
Originally posted by Bad Ash231
Thanos? This is the Darkseid thread.

I knew it was this thread, but somehow I type Thanos.

But it doesn't matter, the same outcome, but Apocalypse in even more trouble against Darkseid.

Originally posted by Bad Ash231
So, basically, what you're saying is that it's an alternative reality, because Apoc looked bad in it?

No. I already said why.

Originally posted by Bad Ash231
It's fugin Black Bolt for starters.

Apocalypse already survived BB powers (it doesn't matter if he didn't fully unleashed them), completely unfazed. Here it was whisper that completely demolished him.
And I almost sure that Apocalypse could survive his whisper (even now), not being destroyed in the same way as he was in HoM reality.

And for start, BB doesn't compare to Darkseid.

Originally posted by Bad Ash231
What do you think Black Bolt would do to Darkseid?|

Would lose. He probably wouldn't even faze him, but for sure, wouldn't hurt him.

llagrok
Black Bolt would probably hurt Darkseid....

Bad Ash231
Originally posted by Xplosive
Apocalypse already survived BB powers (it doesn't matter if he didn't fully unleashed them), completely unfazed.

Apoc was powered up in that encounter.

Originally posted by Xplosive
And for start, BB doesn't compare to Darkseid.

lulz.

Originally posted by Xplosive
Would lose. He probably wouldn't even faze him, but for sure, wouldn't hurt him.

You're right. Superman's punches and Batman's kick can hurt Darkseid, but there is no way Black Bolt can.

Xplosive
Originally posted by llagrok
Black Bolt would probably hurt Darkseid....

Properly written, no. Darkseid who is hurt by Batman kick, then yes.

llagrok
Originally posted by Xplosive
Properly written, no. Darkseid who is hurt by Batman kick, then yes.

No, I think that regular Darkseid would get hurt.

I'm not talking molecules scattered across Apokolips or anything, I just think that Black Bolt screaming would hurt Darkseid.

quanchi112
Originally posted by llagrok
No, I think that regular Darkseid would get hurt.

I'm not talking molecules scattered across Apokolips or anything, I just think that Black Bolt screaming would hurt Darkseid. Hurt him yes but take him out like a bich like what happened to Apoc, no.

skyfather
Originally posted by quanchi112
Hurt him yes but take him out like a bich like what happened to Apoc, no.
when did he take him out like a b*tch?

quanchi112
Originally posted by Bad Ash231
The only things that Scarlet Witch changed in the 616 verse were the last 20 years of history. Unless something happened to visibly change their powers in that time (Peter Parker not being bitten by a spider) the characters remained at their usual power-levels, especially a thousands of years old one like Apocalypse.



Tell that to Bran and Smurph. ermm



What do you think Black Bolt would do to Darkseid? no expression No way in hell he would oneshot him. no expression

Darkseid would then beat his ass.

quanchi112
Originally posted by skyfather
when did he take him out like a b*tch? Hom, he was oneshotted.

skyfather
Originally posted by quanchi112
Hom, he was oneshotted.
apocalypse was dead during hom and reborn/awoke after it.
the apoc during hom was not approximation of him.

quanchi112
Originally posted by skyfather
apocalypse was dead during hom and reborn/awoke after it.
the apoc during hom was not approximation of him. People were bringing in some of these feats.

skyfather
Originally posted by quanchi112
People were bringing in some of these feats.
what like one shotting namor out of water?
for me that doesnt count.
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg202/booie2008/scanapoc.jpg

Bad Ash231
Originally posted by quanchi112
Hurt him yes but take him out like a bich like what happened to Apoc, no.

You mean like every encounter between Superman and Darkseid?

Originally posted by quanchi112
No way in hell he would oneshot him. no expression

Black Bolt's voice has been stated as capable of destroying a planet...


Darkseid would get f*cking pwned.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Darkseid would then beat his ass.

crylaugh

xmarksthespot
You're a very bad man. uhuh

Anyway, speaking is a physical ability. Darkseid uses the ALE. doped

quanchi112
Originally posted by Bad Ash231
You mean like every encounter between Superman and Darkseid?



Black Bolt's voice has been stated as capable of destroying a planet...


Darkseid would get f*cking pwned.



crylaugh Yes his voice has been capable of destroying a planet. But not the whisper that took out Apoc. The planet was fine.

No way this takes out Darkseid. He can just as easy hit Blackbolt with the omega effect. Really Darkseid beats his ass and everyone here except you knows it.

Bad Ash231
Originally posted by quanchi112
No way this takes out Darkseid.

And what are Dougseid's durability feats?

Originally posted by quanchi112
He can just as easy hit Blackbolt with the omega effect.

The OE only works on unimportant characters... 131

Xplosive
Originally posted by quanchi112
Hom, he was oneshotted.

Yes, but we don't take HoM Apocalypse into account.

Originally posted by Bad Ash231
Black Bolt's voice has been stated as capable of destroying a planet...

He can do that with scream. Superman one punch can do that. WWH could do that with one step. God-Like Cable could tear it up with his TK.
And so go on...

Originally posted by Bad Ash231
And what are Dougseid's durability feats?

Well, if you take DS best durability feat and BB most destructive force by his scream, DS wouldn't be fazed at all. DS wouldn't even notice him.

Bad Ash231
Originally posted by Xplosive
Well, if you take DS best durability feat

And that would be?

quanchi112
Originally posted by Bad Ash231
And what are Dougseid's durability feats?



The OE only works on unimportant characters... 131 Darkseid has gone toe to toe with Orion and been fine.

Orion would tear Apoc in two.

Dark-Jaxx
...Is this really being debated? Darkseid brawls with Superman, and can win in a physical fight, Apoc should stick with beating on Hulk...

macz
World War Socks has begun.

You don\'t realize how many of you are socks.

Storm does good work.

Joey will save us!! Ash will hunt us down!

Dark-Jaxx
Are you a sock?

quanchi112
Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
...Is this really being debated? Darkseid brawls with Superman, and can win in a physical fight, Apoc should stick with beating on Hulk... Darkseid does indeed whip Apoc's ass. Its Herochat that has brainwashed a certain someone on here to foolishly believe Apoc has a chance.

TricksterPriest
Better feats are taking his own Omega Force back onto himself, taking a solar system smashing blast from an aspect of the ALE (and only being dazed.), etc.

quanchi112
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Better feats are taking his own Omega Force back onto himself, taking a solar system smashing blast from an aspect of the ALE (and only being dazed.), etc. Taking the omega force back has nothing to do with him winning this fight. How does that convince you that he wins based on that.

TricksterPriest
Because it's an insane durability feat to be still standing after taking the Omega Force to the face.

quanchi112
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Because it's an insane durability feat to be still standing after taking the Omega Force to the face. No it isnt. It just shows that Desaad cannot handle the horrors that one needs to face to contain this force while Darkseid it seems is suited for it. Darksied is one evil mofo. But it in no shape or form is a reason why he wins this.

Dark-Jaxx
Well...DS DOES win this tho lol.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Well...DS DOES win this tho lol. He wins this all day.

Bad Ash231
Originally posted by quanchi112
Darkseid has gone toe to toe with Orion and been fine.

In both fights Superman and Orion, Darkseid gets beaten down and resorts to his Omega Beams, which, even then hasn't helped him... since both Supermand and Orion have been able to deflect the Omega Beams...


I just don't get the impression that Darkseid is formidable in physical fights.

Hazsekswthurmom
Originally posted by Bad Ash231
In both fights Superman and Orion, Darkseid gets beaten down and resorts to his Omega Beams, which, even then hasn't helped him... since both Supermand and Orion have been able to deflect the Omega Beams...


I just don't get the impression that Darkseid is formidable in physical fights. Lol Orion has only beaten him when Darkseid threw the fight to further a plan. I find it odd how you only mention that one instance of Orion pulling a win on Ds, when their are a ton of showings that have him being slapped down/oneshotted, etc..

swerve1988
APOC wins this!!!!
APOC has NEVER been beaten physically nor been harmed physically
and he has better combat skills

vlaaad12345
Apoc has never fought a roughly equal to sundiped superman person in hand to hand so saying he hasnt ever lost in h2h holds no weight.

swerve1988
APOC owned the Living Monolith.....a person who would own SUPES
APOC owned HULK.....a person who would own SUPES

vlaaad12345
Originally posted by swerve1988
APOC owned the Living Monolith.....a person who would own SUPES
APOC owned HULK.....a person who would own SUPES
Only in your dreams would either of them come close to beating supes let alone owning him.

celestialdemon
Originally posted by swerve1988
APOC owned the Living Monolith.....a person who would own SUPES
APOC owned HULK.....a person who would own SUPES laughing

quanchi112
Originally posted by Bad Ash231
In both fights Superman and Orion, Darkseid gets beaten down and resorts to his Omega Beams, which, even then hasn't helped him... since both Supermand and Orion have been able to deflect the Omega Beams...


I just don't get the impression that Darkseid is formidable in physical fights. Orion has never beaten him straight up. Darkseid threw the fight. wink

quanchi112
Originally posted by swerve1988
APOC wins this!!!!
APOC has NEVER been beaten physically nor been harmed physically
and he has better combat skills Darkseid operates at a higher level than Apoc.

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