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brotherly Duel....bloodlust ON....NYC...no prep

I've seen like 5 of this same thread since I JOINED this forum. That's like only a couple months!

Cyke.

It would come down to a h2h fight considering their powers are nullified on one another. In a h2h fight, Scott would wreck Alex.

Cyclops takes this IMO.

Originally posted by batdude123
It would come down to a h2h fight considering their powers are nullified on one another. In a h2h fight, Scott would wreck Alex.

Not necessarily - I hate how people always make that assumption.

Just because they can't directly affect each other doesn't mean they can't shoot out the support collumn that's holding all those tons of cement up. Doesn't mean they can't shoot through the floor. Doesn't mean they can't cause some sort of avalanche, burying their brother.

That's a better question - we know Cyke has the upperhand in close quarters - could Alex show more creativity than Cyclops?

Originally posted by Soljer
Not necessarily - I hate how people always make that assumption.

Just because they can't directly affect each other doesn't mean they can't shoot out the support collumn that's holding all those tons of cement up. Doesn't mean they can't shoot through the floor. Doesn't mean they can't cause some sort of avalanche, burying their brother.

That's a better question - we know Cyke has the upperhand in close quarters - could Alex show more creativity than Cyclops?

You know what? I never considered that before, your right just cause their powers don't ework on each other don't mean they can't still use them.

Big Props to you man for thinking outside the box here.

I think it could go either way. Cyke would win h2h but Alex could win using more destruction. So I say its split evenly

Ive got to go with Alex, While Cyke is slight better in H2H, Alex is far more agile/faster and bigger bang in the battlefield.. Not to mention more versatile in the use of his powers than older bro.. Shield/Flight/strength augmentation and energy projection precision.. Is all..

Not only would Scott kick Alex's ass in a fight, he's also smarter than Alex, not by an astounding margin but enough to beat him if necessary.

Is Alex really underated in this forum, his quite grafty in h2h, more agile/fast and crafty with his powers.. Flight/strength augmentation, Cyke has never shown this kind of versatility with his powers...

Originally posted by Roldz
Is Alex really underated in this forum, his quite grafty in h2h, more agile/fast and crafty with his powers.. Flight/strength augmentation, Cyke has never shown this kind of versatility with his powers...

Yeah, but he also loses respect for dating Magneto's stupid ripoff daughter with green hair

Why you hatin on Lorna?lol.... Shes got attitude but hot....

Originally posted by batdude123
It would come down to a h2h fight considering their powers are nullified on one another. In a h2h fight, Scott would wreck Alex. ditto. Scott's a better tactical fighter too. He'll get up close & FUBAR Alex

How would you nullify Alex ability to turn his powers on himself and amping his strenght making him a lot stronger than Cykes.. Alex has alot more tactical option on this fight than Cykes.. How about blitzing him up in the air and drop him down when his high enough... or bring the fight to one of those highrises and bring it down on Cykes via omni directional blast, Cykes could blast through it but obviously some of the debris would fall on him while Havok has full shields protecting him...

i would have assumed he ment they could hurt each other with there powers

but if he didnt, it almost definately goes to havoc becuase his overall destruction capibilities are alot better than cycs, atleast in relation to colateral damage

btw this is a super super, super repeat thread

cyke

IT would have to be a hand to hand combat fight. I've seen them go at it when the cartoon use ti come on and there powers did nothing to one another. But I'll go with cyclops. All he'll have to do is think of wolverine trying to sleep with Jean and take his rage out on lil bro King Kong aint got nothin on me crazy

Already done 300 times, and Cyke takes it very easily. Their powers don't work on each other, so it would be hand-to-hand, in which Havok is mediocre, while Scott is great. Also, if they were going to use his powers in different ways, Cyclops is a much better tactician and would know how to use them better. Cyke 10/10.

Originally posted by Roldz
How would you nullify Alex ability to turn his powers on himself and amping his strenght making him a lot stronger than Cykes.. Alex has alot more tactical option on this fight than Cykes.. How about blitzing him up in the air and drop him down when his high enough... or bring the fight to one of those highrises and bring it down on Cykes via omni directional blast, Cykes could blast through it but obviously some of the debris would fall on him while Havok has full shields protecting him...

When has he amped his strength that way? what issue was that?

Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
When has he amped his strength that way? what issue was that?
http://img101.imageshack.us/my.php?image=strength1gn1.jpg
http://img101.imageshack.us/my.php?image=strength2re3.jpg
Random's powers automaticly counteract any energy thrown at him, Basicly kinda like fighting Scott...

http://img66.imageshack.us/my.php?image=flightzs6.jpg
Flying Cannonball style...


http://img222.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shieldblastnh2.jpg
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ForceField

http://img110.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vscollussosle4.jpg
http://img122.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vscollussos1uu3.jpg
This how much punishments Havoks body can take, Thats Mimic w/
Collussos armor hitting him... His also fought Stronguy whose taken Captain Americas serum, he took a lot of punishment H2H but never went down not What if but Mutant X series and since its the real Havok its Canon..

http://img170.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vswerewolf1od3.jpg
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Evil Havok possessing Havok body, but can pretty much do desame thing...

From the look of things Havok is far more durable/faster and more versatile in the use of his powers, Cyke might be slightly better in H2H/Tactician but Havoks not amateur, his lead X-factor, Mutant X and at one time X-men.. His got a lot better chances of winning this fight than Cyke...


If he fights dumb then yes but really, as i said before Alex powers are far more versatile than Cykes.. I think Havok is far more in control of his powers than Cykes.. Ie. gives anybody a headache, Superheat the air around him, while Alex is protected via forcefield, Scott is not.. Theres just so many ways Alex bloodlusted can win against Scott...

Originally posted by Soljer
Not necessarily - I hate how people always make that assumption.

Just because they can't directly affect each other doesn't mean they can't shoot out the support collumn that's holding all those tons of cement up. Doesn't mean they can't shoot through the floor. Doesn't mean they can't cause some sort of avalanche, burying their brother.

That's a better question - we know Cyke has the upperhand in close quarters - could Alex show more creativity than Cyclops?

Yes, kudos for thinking of this. Many people tend to just let this theory slide, even though it's very important.

However, Scott still THRASHES Alex no matter what.

He's a FAR better fighter, FAR more creative, FAR more strategic/better tactician, has the fastest attack speed, etc., etc.

Scott wins 8/10, in my opinion.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Yes, kudos for thinking of this. Many people tend to just let this theory slide, even though it's very important.

However, Scott still THRASHES Alex no matter what.

He's a FAR better fighter, FAR more creative, FAR more strategic/better tactician, has the fastest attack speed, etc., etc.

Scott wins 8/10, in my opinion.

Uhhh...What of this stat boosting that some are claiming Havok can manage? I wouldn't put Scott so far ahead....

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Yes, kudos for thinking of this. Many people tend to just let this theory slide, even though it's very important.

However, Scott still THRASHES Alex no matter what.

He's a FAR better fighter, FAR more creative, FAR more strategic/better tactician, has the fastest attack speed, etc., etc.

Scott wins 8/10, in my opinion.
And how do you figure this? Ive never seen Scott in comic panel doing sommersaults and counter attacks like the way Alex fights... And faster, i really dont think so.... Heck ive never even seen Scott take out a bunch of SBP's by his lonesome... The only thing thats going for him on this fight is a slight tactical exp.. the rest Alex dwarfes him.. I'd probably give Alex 6-7/10 against Scott... Bloodlusted...