Click HERE to see this thread with all of the graphics, features, and links.

quick question do you prefer a hero who so overpowerd he's never really in any danger like o say superman or would you prefer a hero who has some power but is still putting his life on the line even against common thugs like say spiser-man or capain america or even batman

batman anyone?

Captain America's life is never in any more damage than Superman's, realistically speaking.

this is true.. but Captain America is hurt easier than Superman... thats why i think hes a better hero... he really does risk himself

Originally posted by Validus
Captain America's life is never in any more damage than Superman's, realistically speaking.

Marvel doesn't have the balls to kill off one its biggest cash cows. Same with DC, and pretty much every other comic company.

Originally posted by Validus
Captain America's life is never in any more damage than Superman's, realistically speaking. i beg to differ one lucky punk with a gun could kill cap superman as it stands now deosnt have to worry about anything

Originally posted by lando005
i beg to differ one lucky punk with a gun could kill cap superman as it stands now deosnt have to worry about anything
Could perhaps but we know that isn't going to happen.

Originally posted by lando005
i beg to differ one lucky punk with a gun could kill cap superman as it stands now deosnt have to worry about anything

He means Marvel isn't going to kill off Captain America.

Originally posted by batdude123
Marvel doesn't have the balls to kill off one its biggest cash cows. Same with DC, and pretty much every other comic company. Mortal Kombat did it

Originally posted by chase el
this is true.. but Captain America is hurt easier than Superman... thats why i think hes a better hero... he really does risk himself

Superman takes on different levels of enemies. It's not really comparable.

Cap isn't marvel's cashcow. Hell, most people not into comics, don't even know who he is.

you have to be dumb not to know who captain america is

Originally posted by Big Sexy
Mortal Kombat did it

JOHNNY!!!!! cry weep

Originally posted by long pig
Cap isn't marvel's cashcow. Hell, most people not into comics, don't even know who he is.

I said ONE of Marvel's cash cow. He along with Namor founded Marvel and was their base. They aren't going to kill him off.

Originally posted by batdude123
JOHNNY!!!!! cry weep They have Johnny killed. Then they had Shang Tsung kill Liu Kang and take his soul leaving his body as a shell.

Originally posted by Big Sexy
They have Johnny killed. Then they had Shang Tsung kill Liu Kang and take his soul leaving his body as a shell.
And yet somehow both still appear as playable characters.

Originally posted by Validus
And yet somehow both still appear as playable characters.

Originally posted by Big Sexy
They have Johnny killed. Then they had Shang Tsung kill Liu Kang and take his soul leaving his body as a shell.

I don't care about Liu. It's all about Johnny, Sub-Zero, and Raiden. 'NUFF SAID.

Originally posted by Validus
And yet somehow both still appear as playable characters. Not in deadly alliance. Liu was gone. He was in deception but it took forever to even find him. In armageddon, hes a corpse but hes not the main focus of MK like he used to be.

Originally posted by batdude123
I don't care about Liu. It's all about Johnny, Sub-Zero, and Raiden. 'NUFF SAID. Liu, Scorpion, Shang Tsung, Kung Lao, and Raiden are my favorites.

Originally posted by Big Sexy
Liu, Scorpion, Shang Tsung, Kung Lao, and Raiden are my favorites.

Yeah, Scorpian's pretty kickass.

Originally posted by Validus
Could perhaps but we know that isn't going to happen. doesnt change the fact that it could happen to cap and superman is never in that kind of danger

Originally posted by batdude123
Yeah, Scorpian's pretty kickass. I loved shang because whenever I took someones soul with a fatality, I would sing the song : "I got soul baby, and I'm super bad". I use to annoy the hell out of my brother with that song.

ok 1 person likes an overpowered hero

make that 4..... jee i wonder who that could be

Scorpion and Sub-Zero own all, bitches!

Palette swapping 4life!

i dont think anyone's paying attention anymore

I like an overpowered chars. who could pretty much lay waste planets across the solar system and Galaxy... But would jobber a lot against Earth Heroes...

Originally posted by Dinalfos
Scorpion and Sub-Zero own all, bitches!

Palette swapping 4life!

They're both cool.

However, you have to add Johnny Cage and Raiden in that list.

Originally posted by batdude123
They're both cool.

However, you have to add Johnny Cage and Raiden in that list.

Yeah, but only Mk2 Raiden. MK 1 Raiden sucks

Originally posted by Roldz
I like an overpowered chars. who could pretty much lay waste planets across the solar system and Galaxy... But would jobber a lot against Earth Heroes... i'm talking mainly earth based heroes.... where's the challange if there's nothing aound that could threaten you

Didnt you read the "But would jobber a lot against Earth heroes" part..
That means he would lost every fight against any of Earths heroes... Ie. Wolverine/Speedball/Leech...

Originally posted by Roldz
Didnt you read the "But would jobber a lot against Earth heroes" part..
That means he would lost every fight against any of Earths heroes... Ie. Wolverine/Speedball/Leech... that's kind of a silly concept dont you think

Powerful characters are often neglected, due to uncreative writing.

But they can be written well, and with challenges.

Originally posted by UniOmni
Powerful characters are often neglected, due to uncreative writing.

But they can be written well, and with challenges. cause it's hard to find every day challenges when your powerful enough to move planets

Originally posted by lando005
that's kind of a silly concept dont you think
But it happens.. Ask Gladiator better yet Galactus... Just kidding..
For real dough i like Char.. like say Havok/Cyke these character has potential to be very distractive if let loose and are constantly keeping themselves in checked.....


One character comes to mind Silver Surfer...

my only problem is with characters that are too powerful for earth but earth is the only place you see them

Originally posted by lando005
cause it's hard to find every day challenges when your powerful enough to move planets

Or when you're not creative enough to come up with original threats and motives.

Every big threat doesn't have to be able to destroy a galaxy, or a solar system with a blast from their ass.

Writers are lazy, and write purely for the check that comes with it. There isn't any growth.

In comics I prefer the underpowerd characters like Spider-man, they have more intresting stories, and better character development's imo. And I just prefer the fights they seem much more brutal in a sense.

But in Tv shows and Movies I prefer the overpowerd characters like Superman theres always something cool about seeing a godly character saving the day...thoughts that come to mind such as in Superman returns where Superman lifts Lex's boat out of the sea to save Lois and Jason, or in JLU when Superman decides to stop holding back on Darkseid.

Originally posted by UniOmni
Or when you're not creative enough to come up with original threats and motives.

Every big threat doesn't have to be able to destroy a galaxy, or a solar system with a blast from their ass.

Writers are lazy, and write purely for the check that comes with it. There isn't any growth. true your right about that

Originally posted by UniOmni
Or when you're not creative enough to come up with original threats and motives.

Every big threat doesn't have to be able to destroy a galaxy, or a solar system with a blast from their ass.

Writers are lazy, and write purely for the check that comes with it. There isn't any growth.
Dude! A character who can level galaxies by blasting from his ass?

*e-mails Grant Morrison*

i prefer underpowered they just seem more intersting

same here

Lando, a few of your threads have me thinking you need to browse the forum rules before you make too many more. But this thread isn't hurting anything...I'll just be moving it to the general comics forum.

It is far more interesting to see a character overcome incredible odds than it is to see a character with nearly unlimited power and NO weaknesses that just wines cause "i can't save everone and if i do everyone will depend on me" oh boo hoo.

Originally posted by Validus
Dude! A character who can level galaxies by blasting from his ass?

*e-mails Grant Morrison*

....says the guy with Jenny Quantum in his sig (i.e. ingester of exploding universes).

Originally posted by Validus
Dude! A character who can level galaxies by blasting from his ass?

*e-mails Grant Morrison*

hysterical I'm sorry...that line just killed me..."figuratively speaking"...can't stop crying over that line....

clapping Encore, encore....

Originally posted by batdude123
I don't care about Liu. It's all about Johnny, Sub-Zero, and Raiden. 'NUFF SAID. Johnny Cage! Scorpion, and Drahmin too... Drahmin rules biatches!

Generally, I like under-powered characters more (Spider-Man, Nightwing, Captain America, etc.), however, I've taken a recent liking the Sentry. Maybe because he has some kind of problem he faces on a daily basis, and isn't too "uber."

On the other hand, a character like Superman... hell no.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Johnny Cage! Scorpion, and Drahmin too... Drahmin rules biatches! Reiko. I just like using him. Hes got a nice set of moves. Kenshi's pretty awesome too.

Originally posted by Big Sexy
Reiko. I just like using him. Hes got a nice set of moves. Kenshi's pretty awesome too. I liked Rain, Reptile, basically all the ninjas.
Kintaro is sweet too. That's why I want the new game.

Originally posted by batdude123
He means Marvel isn't going to kill off Captain America. civil war....

Originally posted by lando005
civil war....

Oct 19th, 2006 12:39 AM

Originally posted by batdude123
Marvel doesn't have the balls to kill off one its biggest cash cows. Same with DC, and pretty much every other comic company. YEA! MARVEL's the one without balls!

Shit I'd like to see DC actually try something even close to Civil War where everything doesn't go back to basically the exact same thing it was before right after.

Shit I'd just like to see them go a year without reconning anything that has the potential to upset the status quo.

Originally posted by Entity
YEA! MARVEL's the one without balls!

Shit I'd like to see DC actually try something even close to Civil War where everything doesn't go back to basically the exact same thing it was before right after.

Shit I'd just like to see them go a year without reconning anything that has the potential to upset the status quo.

yes, because identity crisis didnt have widespread repercussions for dc... dc spent the better part of two years building up to infinite crisis...

or sinestro corps war... kyle's just been possessed by parallax, and a fair part of the gl corps still hate hal for what he did as parallax...

or the fact that people still won't live in the new coast city...

Originally posted by Validus
Captain America's life is never in any more damage than Superman's, realistically speaking. Originally posted by batdude123
Marvel doesn't have the balls to kill off one its biggest cash cows. Same with DC, and pretty much every other comic company. Originally posted by batdude123
He means Marvel isn't going to kill off Captain America. Originally posted by batdude123
I said ONE of Marvel's cash cow. He along with Namor founded Marvel and was their base. They aren't going to kill him off.

Hindsight is 20/20... but still.

Maybe marvel read these posts and decided to prove you wrong.

Originally posted by batdude123
I said ONE of Marvel's cash cow. He along with Namor founded Marvel and was their base. They aren't going to kill him off.

Batdude should've spent more points in foresight.

Originally posted by pr1983
yes, because identity crisis didnt have widespread repercussions for dc... dc spent the better part of two years building up to infinite crisis...

or sinestro corps war... kyle's just been possessed by parallax, and a fair part of the gl corps still hate hal for what he did as parallax...

or the fact that people still won't live in the new coast city...

Whilst I agree that Sinestro Corps war will have repercussions and Infinite Crisis did have big repercussions, Civil War had far bigger and bolder repercussions than Infinite Crisis. Don't get me wrong I loved Infinite Crisis and Civil War. I'm loving Sinestro Corps, but Civil War showed IMO that Marvel has much bigger testicles when it comes to story lines

Infinite Crisis was big but it was essentially a cosmic who dunnit with only Alexander Luthor posing as the suspect, it's two major deaths were a member of the Teen Titans and character who I think was last seen at the end of Crisis on Infinite Earths (Superman of Earth 2). Flash didn't count as he's not dead. Civil War killed off Captain America, allowed a greater degree of reader interaction with the whole "Whose side are you on?" and had the balls to have the side that the most readers were rooting against win so that they could considerably alter the landscape of the Marvel Universe into a more super hero military orientated place.

Superman is in danger constantly since he fights enemies who are as strong or stronger than he is

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Oct 19th, 2006 12:39 AM yea i now..... i just couldnt help myself

Originally posted by willRules
Whilst I agree that Sinestro Corps war will have repercussions and Infinite Crisis did have big repercussions, Civil War had far bigger and bolder repercussions than Infinite Crisis. Don't get me wrong I loved Infinite Crisis and Civil War. I'm loving Sinestro Corps, but Civil War showed IMO that Marvel has much bigger testicles when it comes to story lines

i don't agree... dc has dealt with difficult issues alot, the mindwipe, identity crisis' rape and revenge, miscarriage etc... and IC was on a larger scale... the whole universe was at stake... i dont really think you can equate civil war with IC, IC is more like annihilation in a way...

and sinestro corps>civil war imo in terms of writing...



deaths don't make the story...

the interaction thing i'll grant, it did have that...

but honestly, how long do you think the pro reg thing will last the way it is? the new avengers are still against it, the x-men wont register (as cyke will tell stark after messiah complex), and stark seems to be slowly going off the deep end since taking control of shield...

I think that Sinestro Corps is a way for DC to combat annihilation conquest.

Civil War was around to halt Infinite crisis.

and WWH is an answer to either WW3 or Countdown...i think.

either way both companies have comparable events.

i think the thread has been side tracked

Originally posted by lando005
i think the thread has been side tracked

I think the state of public health availablity is appalling.

Originally posted by Martian_mind
I think the state of public health availablity is appalling. We have free health care.

Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
We have free health care.

Canadians are Sub-human,thus treatment is far cheaper for the government,hence free health care.

Originally posted by Martian_mind
Canadians are Sub-human,thus treatment is far cheaper for the government,hence free health care. The correct word is "peak-humans".

Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
The correct word is "peak-humans".

Probably gained from the free healthcare.

Originally posted by Martian_mind
Probably gained from the free healthcare. Exactly.

Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
Exactly.

Damn,thats a good system.


We just rely on Barbecues,beaches,babes and beers.

Thats what we call the 4 b's.

Overpowered / Underpowered are relative terms: overpowered / underpowered compared to what? If you have (eg) Superman fight common thugs, he's way too overpowered; but not if he fights Doomsday or Darkseid level characters.

Personally, I prefer the cosmics. The problem is, you don't want them in situations where they will be overpowering, because that invites PIS and CIS, which detracts from the whole story.

Originally posted by Mindship
Overpowered / Underpowered are relative terms: overpowered / underpowered compared to what? If you have (eg) Superman fight common thugs, he's way too overpowered; but not if he fights Doomsday or Darkseid level characters.

Personally, I prefer the cosmics. The problem is, you don't want them in situations where they will be overpowering, because that invites PIS and CIS, which detracts from the whole story. over powered in the terms of do you prefer people like superman who's pretty much invulnerable to harm and never at risk from common things as oppose to say captain america who fights the same types of dangers but is also at risk to the common thug who gets a luck shot

bump

Originally posted by Creshosk
Hindsight is 20/20... but still.

Maybe marvel read these posts and decided to prove you wrong.

It's all Batdude's fault!

it's always his fault

Originally posted by batdude123
He means Marvel isn't going to kill off Captain America. Wow. How wrong.

Originally posted by Bad Ash231
It's all Batdude's fault!

He pissed off Bendis and Quesada, and then they killed Cap to piss him off.

Magneto's next!

Originally posted by Mindship
Overpowered / Underpowered are relative terms: overpowered / underpowered compared to what? If you have (eg) Superman fight common thugs, he's way too overpowered; but not if he fights Doomsday or Darkseid level characters.

Personally, I prefer the cosmics. The problem is, you don't want them in situations where they will be overpowering, because that invites PIS and CIS, which detracts from the whole story.

^^ co-signed. It's all relative. Cosmic powered heroes should be facing threats of the level that's appropriate, e.g. threats starting at the planetary level on outwards.

One of my favorite fight scenes of all time was Galactus vs. the In-betweener, both incredibly powerful creatures but the story was written well enough to captivate the reader.

Originally posted by Kutulu
^^ co-signed. It's all relative. Cosmic powered heroes should be facing threats of the level that's appropriate, e.g. threats starting at the planetary level on outwards.

One of my favorite fight scenes of all time was Galactus vs. the In-betweener, both incredibly powerful creatures but the story was written well enough to captivate the reader. my thing was there were many times where i swa heroes who would be over powered for a situation or upgraded beyond the level of threats they normally face, yet continue to face said threats, For example the whole wolverine being immortal thing with a beyond godly healing factor, no matter what way you slice it that just made the character dull, he was never in any real danger. When sups is off fighting doomsday level threats all the time i'm fine with that, it's when he fights kingpin level threats and then gets a bunch of props for being such an outstanding hero that annoys me, not just saying that bout him that goes for any hero who is "pussy footing" it, heroes on that level shouldnt be stationed on earth