The Dark Side Rules.
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~Kongu_Dude~
Yep. dodgy
The Dark Side Rule The Good Side. evilninja
But Why Does The Good Always Have To Win?
I Mean, The Empire Is Very Powerful. noneyes
What Do You Think?
Ushgarak
Because the Dark Side is parasitic and feeds upon itself unto destruction.
PVS
well, if the parasitic nature was what completely governed the sith, they would not have been destroyed in RotJ. it was the good and compassion in vader that broke the cycle, not his yearning for power.
Ushgarak
It was their parasitic nature that meant there were only two of them which made that extinction possible.
The Emperor was trying to get rid of Vader, and Vader of the Emperor; it is the concept which always ensured the Sith never win in the long term.
PVS
Originally posted by Ushgarak
It was their parasitic nature that meant there were only two of them which made that extinction possible.
The Emperor was trying to get rid of Vader, and Vader of the Emperor; it is the concept which always ensured the Sith never win in the long term.
well, thats a contradicting statement. accoring to the sith rule, it was a fine plan.
all possible outcomes:
1-luke turns and kills vader-becomes palps' apprentice
2-luke turns and kills palps-becomes vader's apprentice
3-luke doesnt turn, emporer and/or vader kill him, same as it ever was
either way, two remain. palps would not have killed vader, and vader would not have killed palps. it was the good in vader that ended the sith.
first by killing the master and then by sacrificing himself, or rather giving up his interest in power and once again becoming anakin. even if he DID kill palps he would have instinctively found an apprentice.
:edit: and when you think about it, the rule of two is not difficult for them to follow, since it ensures that the master will never have to share power. so there really was no danger of that being broken.
~Kongu_Dude~
Still.
The Empire troops are powerfull. ermm
queeq
Originally posted by PVS
well, thats a contradicting statement. accoring to the sith rule, it was a fine plan.
all possible outcomes:
1-luke turns and kills vader-becomes palps' apprentice
2-luke turns and kills palps-becomes vader's apprentice
3-luke doesnt turn, emporer and/or vader kill him, same as it ever was
either way, two remain. palps would not have killed vader, and vader would not have killed palps. it was the good in vader that ended the sith.
first by killing the master and then by sacrificing himself, or rather giving up his interest in power and once again becoming anakin. even if he DID kill palps he would have instinctively found an apprentice.
:edit: and when you think about it, the rule of two is not difficult for them to follow, since it ensures that the master will never have to share power. so there really was no danger of that being broken.
In a way I agree... the rule of two is some kind of insurance the Sith can endure... it is the only way. But it is fragile... apparantly it only works when there are two, but the relationship is always tense since the basis is hate, anger jealousy etc... So the apprentice will always want what the master has and the master is afraid to lose his position. So an apprentice cannot get too powerful for a master, and for the apprentice there's always looking for that one moment of weakness...
Ushgarak
Originally posted by PVS
well, thats a contradicting statement. accoring to the sith rule, it was a fine plan.
all possible outcomes:
1-luke turns and kills vader-becomes palps' apprentice
2-luke turns and kills palps-becomes vader's apprentice
3-luke doesnt turn, emporer and/or vader kill him, same as it ever was
either way, two remain. palps would not have killed vader, and vader would not have killed palps. it was the good in vader that ended the sith.
first by killing the master and then by sacrificing himself, or rather giving up his interest in power and once again becoming anakin. even if he DID kill palps he would have instinctively found an apprentice.
:edit: and when you think about it, the rule of two is not difficult for them to follow, since it ensures that the master will never have to share power. so there really was no danger of that being broken.
Of course it is a good rule, it was the only way for them to survive!
But you seem to have missed the obvious here. It meant that there were only two of them! Which rather obviously makes it easy for them to be wiped out forever. Which is what happened. Vader suddenly going all soft wouldn't have made much of an impact if there had been dozens of Sidious types.
It is the Dark Side's basic nature that makes them so vulnerable. If there only ever being two of them is actually the best position they can get, then the weakness of the Dark Side is exposed by it.
~Kongu_Dude~
I'm an Empire Fan. w00t
PVS
Originally posted by Ushgarak
Vader suddenly going all soft wouldn't have made much of an impact if there had been dozens of Sidious types.
correct...because the sith would have been extinct long before palpatine and thus no vader
Alliance
Originally posted by ~Kongu_Dude~
Yep. dodgy
The Dark Side Rule The Good Side. evilninja
But Why Does The Good Always Have To Win?
I Mean, The Empire Is Very Powerful. noneyes
What Do You Think?
Erm.....because the Sith are Just as hypocritical as the Jedi?
Both are pathetic.
There is only the Force. Light and dark. One.
Clonetroopers rock.
PVS
Originally posted by Alliance
Erm.....because the Sith are Just as hypocritical as the Jedi?
ok is it time once again for the "force = scale, GL is wrong!!!111" debate?
Jedi Priestess
Originally posted by Alliance
Clonetroopers rock.
bang
We get that already.
Alliance
Originally posted by PVS
ok is it time once again for the "force = scale, GL is wrong!!!111" debate?
Its never stopped, haven't you been around?
Originally posted by Jedi Priestess
bang
We get that already.
Jedi Priestess
hug
queeq
We ALWAYS get it that Alliance likes clones. Maybe we should get him an inflatable female Clone doll... so he can play all by himself.
~Kongu_Dude~
Clone's Rock! w00t
~Kongu_Dude~
Already got one. dodgy
JaehSkywalker
can someone gimme a death star for X'mas?
PVS
fanboy letter to george lucas:
dear mr. lucas. i know you said that the force is not a scale, but i have to say that you are wrong. although it was in your imagination, as such i have the right to interpret it as i feel. so in conclusion you are wrong wrong wrong
lucas' reply
dear fanboy,
i respect your views and must offer a correction to you as well. remember when you were a child and you imagined a big green monster in your closet threatening to eat you? well i disagree. it was actually hitler wearing a thong threatening to slap you with an oven mit. though i respect your contrary opinion on what you really imagined, im sorry to say that you are wrong.
queeq
Lucas always wins...
SpaceMonkey
"There is always only ONE Lucas, no more no less."
queeq
No, TPM ending.
Highlander would be: There can be only one!
Alliance
Originally posted by queeq
We ALWAYS get it that Alliance likes clones. Maybe we should get him an inflatable female Clone doll... so he can play all by himself.
Umm....clones are male...and while I'd apprectiate a fem trooper....I'm not a fan of dolls.
JaehSkywalker
dolls are scary during nights.
SpaceMonkey
Originally posted by queeq
No, TPM ending.
Highlander would be: There can be only one!
Thanks for getting my back there.
queeq
NP...
That would be a 'playing' doll, Alliance...
Alliance
I'd want the real thing.
Council#13
Originally posted by PVS
fanboy letter to george lucas:
dear mr. lucas. i know you said that the force is not a scale, but i have to say that you are wrong. although it was in your imagination, as such i have the right to interpret it as i feel. so in conclusion you are wrong wrong wrong
lucas' reply
dear fanboy,
i respect your views and must offer a correction to you as well. remember when you were a child and you imagined a big green monster in your closet threatening to eat you? well i disagree. it was actually hitler wearing a thong threatening to slap you with an oven mit. though i respect your contrary opinion on what you really imagined, im sorry to say that you are wrong.
Ownizzleness
Alliance
Exactly. Some people are so caught up on being Lucas' b*tches that they cant even critique his film.
queeq
Originally posted by Alliance
I'd want the real thing.
Errr.... that'd be a...male.....
Alliance
Yeah, well, some sacrifices must be made.
~Kongu_Dude~
Mkay. em_sexy_girl
Alliance
*hands konge a tissue*
queeq
That is kind... and Kong is a male too... I get the picture.
Alliance
Piss off
his nose was bleeding all over the forum.
Don't get ideas.
~Kongu_Dude~
That smiley creeps me out. em_sexy_girl
queeq
Originally posted by Alliance
Piss off
his nose was bleeding all over the forum.
Don't get ideas.
You gave them to me...
queeq
Well, you looked like it.
~Kongu_Dude~
I know.
Alliance
Blue blaster pistols suck.
~Kongu_Dude~
I know. herbermm
queeq
Originally posted by Alliance
Blue blaster pistols suck.
You're just jealous.
Alliance
Originally posted by queeq
You're just jealous.
Yeah. Sigs AREN'T something I usually am jealous of.
queeq
But this time you are... hehehehe
queeq
Wow... another smilie.... how... creative
Jedi Priestess
ok boys.....play nice
Alliance
What are you going to do to me if I dont droolio
Alliance
You don't know what I'm thinking.
Alliance
What are you looking here for?
Kongu Dude
wihpe
Kongu Dude
I fail.
Alliance
Least I'm not a wet pussy.
queeq
That means you're not interesting at all.
Jedi Priestess
Meeeeow diva
queeq
Originally posted by Jedi Priestess
Meeeeow diva
JP is.... hehehehe
Alliance
They only type you can get?
Jedi Priestess
Originally posted by Alliance
$100.
hysterical
That will buy you a
Im too high maintence for you if that's your opening offer.
queeq
Originally posted by Jedi Priestess
hysterical
Im too high maintence for you if that's your opening offer.
Yes, she is...
Kongu Dude
What are you doing with my Threads? crazy
queeq
Wrecking them, like I do with ALL threads...
queeq
I think ss was trying to tell us something.
sithsaber408
Originally posted by Kongu Dude
What are you doing with my Threads? crazy
LOLZ!11! Starwars threads R belong 2 us n00b!1
Kongu Dude
im hpy im nt a n0bb. ermm
Originally posted by queeq
Wrecking them, like I do with ALL threads...
herboh
queeq
Welcome to KMC, Kongu.
Kongu Dude
Originally posted by Alliance
herbdoped
I'm a Herb Fan. loveherb
Originally posted by queeq
Welcome to KMC, Kongu.
I've been here over a Year..
I'm getting used to it.
Alliance
Originally posted by Kongu Dude
I'm a Herb Fan. loveherb
Thats unfortunate.
Alliance
Originally posted by Alliance
herbdoped
Jedi Priestess
Originally posted by queeq
Yes, she is...
He would know.
queeq
But it's worth it.
Alliance
Nto for you Mr. Powerchair
queeq
She was talking about me... so I guess it is.
sithsaber408
you know what?
You know what.
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