The Dark Side Rules.

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~Kongu_Dude~
Yep. dodgy

The Dark Side Rule The Good Side. evilninja

But Why Does The Good Always Have To Win?

I Mean, The Empire Is Very Powerful. noneyes

What Do You Think?

Ushgarak
Because the Dark Side is parasitic and feeds upon itself unto destruction.

PVS
well, if the parasitic nature was what completely governed the sith, they would not have been destroyed in RotJ. it was the good and compassion in vader that broke the cycle, not his yearning for power.

Ushgarak
It was their parasitic nature that meant there were only two of them which made that extinction possible.

The Emperor was trying to get rid of Vader, and Vader of the Emperor; it is the concept which always ensured the Sith never win in the long term.

PVS
Originally posted by Ushgarak
It was their parasitic nature that meant there were only two of them which made that extinction possible.

The Emperor was trying to get rid of Vader, and Vader of the Emperor; it is the concept which always ensured the Sith never win in the long term.

well, thats a contradicting statement. accoring to the sith rule, it was a fine plan.
all possible outcomes:

1-luke turns and kills vader-becomes palps' apprentice
2-luke turns and kills palps-becomes vader's apprentice
3-luke doesnt turn, emporer and/or vader kill him, same as it ever was

either way, two remain. palps would not have killed vader, and vader would not have killed palps. it was the good in vader that ended the sith.
first by killing the master and then by sacrificing himself, or rather giving up his interest in power and once again becoming anakin. even if he DID kill palps he would have instinctively found an apprentice.

:edit: and when you think about it, the rule of two is not difficult for them to follow, since it ensures that the master will never have to share power. so there really was no danger of that being broken.

~Kongu_Dude~
Still.

The Empire troops are powerfull. ermm

queeq
Originally posted by PVS
well, thats a contradicting statement. accoring to the sith rule, it was a fine plan.
all possible outcomes:

1-luke turns and kills vader-becomes palps' apprentice
2-luke turns and kills palps-becomes vader's apprentice
3-luke doesnt turn, emporer and/or vader kill him, same as it ever was

either way, two remain. palps would not have killed vader, and vader would not have killed palps. it was the good in vader that ended the sith.
first by killing the master and then by sacrificing himself, or rather giving up his interest in power and once again becoming anakin. even if he DID kill palps he would have instinctively found an apprentice.

:edit: and when you think about it, the rule of two is not difficult for them to follow, since it ensures that the master will never have to share power. so there really was no danger of that being broken.

In a way I agree... the rule of two is some kind of insurance the Sith can endure... it is the only way. But it is fragile... apparantly it only works when there are two, but the relationship is always tense since the basis is hate, anger jealousy etc... So the apprentice will always want what the master has and the master is afraid to lose his position. So an apprentice cannot get too powerful for a master, and for the apprentice there's always looking for that one moment of weakness...

Ushgarak
Originally posted by PVS
well, thats a contradicting statement. accoring to the sith rule, it was a fine plan.
all possible outcomes:

1-luke turns and kills vader-becomes palps' apprentice
2-luke turns and kills palps-becomes vader's apprentice
3-luke doesnt turn, emporer and/or vader kill him, same as it ever was

either way, two remain. palps would not have killed vader, and vader would not have killed palps. it was the good in vader that ended the sith.
first by killing the master and then by sacrificing himself, or rather giving up his interest in power and once again becoming anakin. even if he DID kill palps he would have instinctively found an apprentice.

:edit: and when you think about it, the rule of two is not difficult for them to follow, since it ensures that the master will never have to share power. so there really was no danger of that being broken.

Of course it is a good rule, it was the only way for them to survive!

But you seem to have missed the obvious here. It meant that there were only two of them! Which rather obviously makes it easy for them to be wiped out forever. Which is what happened. Vader suddenly going all soft wouldn't have made much of an impact if there had been dozens of Sidious types.

It is the Dark Side's basic nature that makes them so vulnerable. If there only ever being two of them is actually the best position they can get, then the weakness of the Dark Side is exposed by it.

~Kongu_Dude~
I'm an Empire Fan. w00t

queeq
Yaaayyy...

PVS
Originally posted by Ushgarak
Vader suddenly going all soft wouldn't have made much of an impact if there had been dozens of Sidious types.

correct...because the sith would have been extinct long before palpatine and thus no vader stick out tongue

Alliance
Originally posted by ~Kongu_Dude~
Yep. dodgy

The Dark Side Rule The Good Side. evilninja

But Why Does The Good Always Have To Win?

I Mean, The Empire Is Very Powerful. noneyes

What Do You Think?

Erm.....because the Sith are Just as hypocritical as the Jedi?

Both are pathetic.

There is only the Force. Light and dark. One.

Clonetroopers rock.

PVS
Originally posted by Alliance
Erm.....because the Sith are Just as hypocritical as the Jedi?

ok is it time once again for the "force = scale, GL is wrong!!!111" debate?

Thorinn
looks like it.

Jedi Priestess
Originally posted by Alliance


Clonetroopers rock.

bang

We get that already. laughing out loud

Alliance
Originally posted by PVS
ok is it time once again for the "force = scale, GL is wrong!!!111" debate?

Its never stopped, haven't you been around?
Originally posted by Jedi Priestess
bang

We get that already. laughing out loud

sad

Jedi Priestess
hug wink

queeq
We ALWAYS get it that Alliance likes clones. Maybe we should get him an inflatable female Clone doll... so he can play all by himself. wink

~Kongu_Dude~
Clone's Rock! w00t

queeq
You want one too?

~Kongu_Dude~
Already got one. dodgy

JaehSkywalker
can someone gimme a death star for X'mas?

~Kongu_Dude~
no

PVS
fanboy letter to george lucas:

dear mr. lucas. i know you said that the force is not a scale, but i have to say that you are wrong. although it was in your imagination, as such i have the right to interpret it as i feel. so in conclusion you are wrong wrong wrong

lucas' reply

dear fanboy,
i respect your views and must offer a correction to you as well. remember when you were a child and you imagined a big green monster in your closet threatening to eat you? well i disagree. it was actually hitler wearing a thong threatening to slap you with an oven mit. though i respect your contrary opinion on what you really imagined, im sorry to say that you are wrong.

queeq
laughing out loud

~Kongu_Dude~
laughing

queeq
Lucas always wins...

~Kongu_Dude~
Yes he does.

queeq
Indeed

PVS
quite

SpaceMonkey
"There is always only ONE Lucas, no more no less."

PVS
highlander?

queeq
No, TPM ending.

Highlander would be: There can be only one!

Alliance
Originally posted by queeq
We ALWAYS get it that Alliance likes clones. Maybe we should get him an inflatable female Clone doll... so he can play all by himself. wink

Umm....clones are male...and while I'd apprectiate a fem trooper....I'm not a fan of dolls.

JaehSkywalker
dolls are scary during nights.

SpaceMonkey
Originally posted by queeq
No, TPM ending.

Highlander would be: There can be only one!


Thanks for getting my back there. smile

queeq
NP...


That would be a 'playing' doll, Alliance... wink

Alliance
no

I'd want the real thing.

Council#13
Originally posted by PVS
fanboy letter to george lucas:

dear mr. lucas. i know you said that the force is not a scale, but i have to say that you are wrong. although it was in your imagination, as such i have the right to interpret it as i feel. so in conclusion you are wrong wrong wrong

lucas' reply

dear fanboy,
i respect your views and must offer a correction to you as well. remember when you were a child and you imagined a big green monster in your closet threatening to eat you? well i disagree. it was actually hitler wearing a thong threatening to slap you with an oven mit. though i respect your contrary opinion on what you really imagined, im sorry to say that you are wrong.

Ownizzleness

~Kongu_Dude~
blink

Alliance
Exactly. Some people are so caught up on being Lucas' b*tches that they cant even critique his film.

queeq
Originally posted by Alliance
no

I'd want the real thing.

Errr.... that'd be a...male.....

Alliance
Yeah, well, some sacrifices must be made.

queeq
Ooooooooookay.....

~Kongu_Dude~
Mkay. em_sexy_girl

Alliance
*hands konge a tissue*

queeq
That is kind... and Kong is a male too... I get the picture.

Alliance
Piss off mad his nose was bleeding all over the forum.

Don't get ideas.

~Kongu_Dude~
That smiley creeps me out. em_sexy_girl

queeq
Originally posted by Alliance
Piss off mad his nose was bleeding all over the forum.

Don't get ideas.

You gave them to me... sick

~Kongu_Dude~
srug

queeq
Kongu's lost.

~Kongu_Dude~
I'm? oh

queeq
Well, you looked like it.

~Kongu_Dude~
I know. stick out tongue

queeq
It happens.

Alliance
Blue blaster pistols suck.

~Kongu_Dude~
I know. herbermm

queeq
Originally posted by Alliance
Blue blaster pistols suck.

You're just jealous.

coolmovies
I agree ^^^^

Alliance
Originally posted by queeq
You're just jealous.

erm Yeah. Sigs AREN'T something I usually am jealous of.

queeq
But this time you are... hehehehe

Alliance
no expression

queeq
Wow... another smilie.... how... creative

Alliance
erm

Jedi Priestess
ok boys.....play nice

Alliance
What are you going to do to me if I dont droolio

queeq
Not that!

Alliance
You don't know what I'm thinking.

Jedi Priestess
whip

Alliance
What are you looking here for?

Kongu Dude
no expressionwihpe

queeq
The whip...

Kongu Dude
I fail. laughing out loud

Alliance
yesno

queeq
Ahem...

Alliance
Least I'm not a wet pussy.

queeq
That means you're not interesting at all. laughing out loud

Jedi Priestess
Meeeeow diva

Alliance
$100.

queeq
Originally posted by Jedi Priestess
Meeeeow diva

JP is.... hehehehe eek!

Alliance
They only type you can get?

Jedi Priestess
Originally posted by Alliance
$100.

hysterical

That will buy you a wink

Im too high maintence for you if that's your opening offer.

Alliance
1234

queeq
Originally posted by Jedi Priestess
hysterical
Im too high maintence for you if that's your opening offer.

Yes, she is... wink

Kongu Dude
What are you doing with my Threads? crazy

queeq
Wrecking them, like I do with ALL threads... evil face

sithsaber408

queeq
I think ss was trying to tell us something.

sithsaber408
Originally posted by Kongu Dude
What are you doing with my Threads? crazy


LOLZ!11! Starwars threads R belong 2 us n00b!1

Kongu Dude
im hpy im nt a n0bb. ermm

Originally posted by queeq
Wrecking them, like I do with ALL threads... evil face

herboh

queeq
Welcome to KMC, Kongu. big grin

Alliance
herbdoped

Kongu Dude
Originally posted by Alliance
herbdoped

I'm a Herb Fan. loveherb

Originally posted by queeq
Welcome to KMC, Kongu. big grin

I've been here over a Year.. happy

I'm getting used to it. laughing out loud

Alliance
Originally posted by Kongu Dude
I'm a Herb Fan. loveherb


Thats unfortunate.

queeq
Why?

Alliance
Originally posted by Alliance
herbdoped

queeq
I don't get it.

Alliance
1234

queeq
Okay..

Jedi Priestess
Originally posted by queeq
Yes, she is... wink

He would know. yes

queeq
But it's worth it. wink

Alliance
Nto for you Mr. Powerchair

queeq
She was talking about me... so I guess it is.

Kongu Dude
Wtf. crazy

queeq
Now what?

Alliance
what?

sithsaber408
you know what?

You know what.

Alliance
I know what.

queeq
I don't.

Alliance
.t'nod I

queeq
Time to close..

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