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Did Juggy go back to kicking ass??

it's not out yet

I just read a synapses. I thought it was out.

Damn it Souja. I blame you and also....digimark.

Someone better scan that comic page by page when they get it. I'm dying to see what happens, aren't you??

Originally posted by long pig
I just read a synapses. I thought it was out.

Damn it Souja. I blame you and also....digimark.

Someone better scan that comic page by page when they get it. I'm dying to see what happens, aren't you??

Shit is about time Juggernaut gets his powers back. Most of you know that Juggernauts one of my favs, so I pray Marvel doesn't ruin his return like there ruining Thor's.

I've already planned out jug's story after he's gotten his power back.

First: He's abducted from this home in Excalibu and he was kidnapped by a a god who owns his own cosmos. The god teleports Jug from bed and tells him :You've went long enough without your full power. It's time for I, Cyttorak to give you back your glory.

Jug reluctently and is tranformed back into the real jug!"

Jug then goes on a walk aound town. The cops are close but Jug doesn't stop, he can't stop!

So, the army realzing it had nothing to do with them they call for help, and guess who shows us? Sentry!

They fight and fight and juig's proves his inviniciility against Jug.imvinicle to ol' Sentry. Je's

Juggernaut imply outlasts the Sentry

Originally posted by long pig
I've already planned out jug's story after he's gotten his power back.

First: He's abducted from this home in Excalibu and he was kidnapped by a a god who owns his own cosmos. The god teleports Jug from bed and tells him :You've went long enough without your full power. It's time for I, Cyttorak to give you back your glory.

Jug reluctently and is tranformed back into the real jug!"

Jug then goes on a walk aound town. The cops are close but Jug doesn't stop, he can't stop!

So, the army realzing it had nothing to do with them they call for help, and guess who shows us? Sentry!

They fight and fight and juig's proves his inviniciility against Jug.imvinicle to ol' Sentry. Je's

Juggernaut imply outlasts the Sentry

Bad keyboard ?

Originally posted by grey fox
Bad keyboard ? Probably just to excited.

Personly I would like to see Juggernaut kind of go really crazy at first.

Basically show us how a motral receiveing so much power simply goes insane from it. He goes busting places and teams with little effort. Basically I'm waiting for something big to happen show Juggs can really shine against some top level competition.

Sentry? Nah....he's the new Thor until the real Thor comes back. I can't see him jobbing too much without some sort of hardcore PIS, even to a resurgent Juggs.

I hope they bring old-school Juggs back. It would be nice to see him actually go on another unstoppable rampage again.

Now that I think about it, Marvel does tend to depower a lot of its most powerful characters doesn't it? Juggernaut was depowered to Jobbernaut. Immortal Hercules was depowered to mortal Hercules. Certain X-Men lost their powers due to M-Day. Strange is supposedly becoming less powerful. Hulk lost a great deal of strength in Plant Hulk. Genis was killed and so was Alpha Flight (at least I think). Then you have guys like Gladiator jobbing 24/7 and Sentry not doing any thing at all.

Sometimes, Marvel just doesn't seem to know what to do with its powerhouses.

Here's an article on Newsarama about the upcoming arc

It sounds really good

http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=88352

World War Hulk next summer, and this arc now.

Potential, potential...

Originally posted by H. S. 6
World War Hulk next summer, and this arc now.

Potential, potential... Oh a world shattering rematch I like it

Them fighting always turns out to be the same stuff. I'd like a team-up for once where they beat the crud out of different heroes together.

With Juggs suppsoedly turning to the dark side again and Hulk pissed at the world's heroes, they would have the motives for doing so.

Originally posted by Accel
Them fighting always turns out to be the same stuff. I'd like a team-up for once where they beat the crud out of different heroes together.

With Juggs suppsoedly turning to the dark side again and Hulk pissed at the world's heroes, they would have the motives for doing so. Could work out.

Think abuot a totally Mindless HUlk with a Totally out of Control Juggernaut
the possibilities

Oh yes, the possibilities. droolio

Originally posted by Accel
and so was Alpha Flight (at least I think).

Nope, but some members I'm sure were killed but interviews stated not all the team died. Plus there is still the temporal copies of the original team out there.

Originally posted by Accel
Hulk lost a great deal of strength in Plant Hulk.

No he didnt. he is in a whole different atmosphere, his powers havent decrease.

Originally posted by Darth Vicious
No he didnt. he is in a whole different atmosphere, his powers havent decrease.
He was injured by ordinary weapons as soon as he arrived there. He took at least two issues just to heal from being burned by lava (I'm still not sure if he fully healed from that now that I think about it). I'd consider that a depowering. They also proved that it had something to do with that wormhole he went through when Surfer showed up weaker than ever before.

However, his body is constantly getting stronger and adapting his new situation, so he should be considerably stronger when he gets back.

It is that the portal actually drains him of his power, like surfers power cosmic and hulks gamma. The little restain circles things do it more. That is why he took so long to heal and this is why his power is slow returning.

What this means is hulk is gonna start utilizing his brain and speed more, as suggested by the red king and basicly everyone he fights. So he can't be the strongest relying soeling on that. He has to actually develop a fighting style besides HULK SMASH!!!!!!

Originally posted by grey fox
Bad keyboard ?
Perfectly fine keyboard and also perfectly fine 6 pack of coors.

Originally posted by long pig
Perfectly fine keyboard and also perfectly fine 6 pack of coors. Coors? That's some nasty sh!t. I drink Morgan/Coke.

Originally posted by newjak86
Oh a world shattering rematch I like it
Hell yeah.

Jug could come back to full power just in time to take out the newly uber-pissed Hulk when he returns to Earth. Hell, the heroes all could pay Jug to do it or something.

If Jug regains full power again, I'll be one happy fellow.

Looks like he'll be fighting the Wrecker and the rest of the wrecking crew all at once in #15..bah and it looks like he's losing. hmm...I wonder if this will be when he gets his power back and he unleashes a massive beating on the entire wrecking crew??
http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/Excalibur/Juggernaut/NXCal13_02_3.html
http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/Excalibur/Juggernaut/01.jpg

Originally posted by long pig
Hell yeah.

Jug could come back to full power just in time to take out the newly uber-pissed Hulk when he returns to Earth. Hell, the heroes all could pay Jug to do it or something.

If Jug regains full power again, I'll be one happy fellow.

Looks like he'll be fighting the Wrecker in #15..bah and it looks like he's losing.
http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/Excalibur/Juggernaut/01.jpg Maybe this is the fight that sends him on his repowering journy

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Coors? That's some nasty sh!t. I drink Morgan/Coke.
I like my alcohol like I like my women: cheap and nasty.

Originally posted by Newjak
Maybe this is the fight that sends him on his repowering journy
Most likely, yeah. I'd bet the crew beats his ass, makes fun of him for going soft and being a hero. Jugg then says "**** it" and decides to do whatever it takes to get his power back just to run through the crew.

I think he fights Absorbing Man, too. Which even full powered Jug would have a hella hard time beating.

Originally posted by long pig
Most likely, yeah. I'd bet the crew beats his ass, makes fun of him for going soft and being a hero. Jugg then says "**** it" and decides to do whatever it takes to get his power back just to run through the crew.

I think he fights Absorbing Man, too. Which even full powered Jug would have a hella hard time beating. Sounds about right. I can't wait for this

I can't either.

I've hoped this would happen for the past couple years now.

I know I've waited for so long for the Jobbernaut to be gone.

I'm wondering what the twist will be when it comes to the Onslaught thing. Why would OS attack Jug first? Could it turn out to be that he's potentially one of the most powerful beings on the planet and OS needed to get him out of the way as fast as possible?

Originally posted by long pig
I'm wondering what the twist will be when it comes to the Onslaught thing. Why would OS attack Jug first? Could it turn out to be that he's potentially one of the most powerful beings on the planet and OS needed to get him out of the way as fast as possible? Yeah that is something that has me very interested. And I think it will be sweet.

The other thing that has me interested is the fact there has been more than one Juggernaut could e kool.

Dude......a black Juggernaut would be awesome.

Originally posted by long pig
Dude......a black Juggernaut would be awesome. Yeah that would be prett cool.

Although I've seen a picture where there is something like a ninja Juggs which seems pretty kool

Originally posted by long pig
Dude......a black Juggernaut would be awesome.

Bah, that would just be an excuse for Marvel to use the ever reoccuring quote

"I'm the Juggernaut B****!"

or maybe..

"Sweet Christmas, I'm the Juggernaut B****!"

Originally posted by long pig
Hell yeah.

Jug could come back to full power just in time to take out the newly uber-pissed Hulk when he returns to Earth. Hell, the heroes all could pay Jug to do it or something.

If Jug regains full power again, I'll be one happy fellow.

Looks like he'll be fighting the Wrecker and the rest of the wrecking crew all at once in #15..bah and it looks like he's losing. hmm...I wonder if this will be when he gets his power back and he unleashes a massive beating on the entire wrecking crew??
http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/Excalibur/Juggernaut/NXCal13_02_3.html
http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/Excalibur/Juggernaut/01.jpg

Somebody like Juggs getting pwned by the wrecking crew has to be the ultimate embarresment

I mean, Thing >> Wrecker and heck, the Runaways >>> Wrecking Crew

Originally posted by Grimm22
Bah, that would just be an excuse for Marvel to use the ever reoccuring quote

"I'm the Juggernaut B****!"

or maybe..

"Sweet Christmas, I'm the Juggernaut B****!"


Nah, he'd carry a magical 9mm and a backwards helmet...namebrand of course.

Originally posted by Grimm22
Somebody like Juggs getting pwned by the wrecking crew has to be the ultimate embarresment

I mean, Thing >> Wrecker and heck, the Runaways >>> Wrecking Crew
Well, if Absorbing Man is in there, then even normal Jugs would only be able to stalemate.

Originally posted by long pig
Nah, he'd carry a magical 9mm and a backwards helmet...namebrand of course.


Well, if Absorbing Man is in there, then even normal Jugs would only be able to stalemate.

You mean Thunderball

That could be Thunderball, but Creel runs with the Crew as well and they fight together a lot.

If it is just Thunderball, then Jug is safe. If it's AM, just would physically stalemate, but AM would use his unique telepathy to "Absorb" Cain's mind. Basically making Cain a slave.

Originally posted by long pig
That could be Thunderball, but Creel runs with the Crew as well and they fight together a lot.

If it is just Thunderball, then Jug is safe. If it's AM, just would physically stalemate, but AM would use his unique telepathy to "Absorb" Cain's mind. Basically making Cain a slave.

Weird

But remember, AM is also an idiot close to the levels of Rhino

When does this arc start? I heard it was issue #13.

i cant believe something made me want to read this book again....

Damn and I just dropped this title from my comics subscription because it was getting boring, now I want to read this arc. Oh well, download it is!

Originally posted by Grimm22
Weird

But remember, AM is also an idiot close to the levels of Rhino
He's not dumb anymore, in fact, he's a genius.
When he went around absorbing minds in the Hulk comics, he also absorbed their intelligence (the scientists and such who were keeping him in lock down) and he kept it. AM is uber smart now.

They hinted that he may have never actually been dumb, he just used to pretend so people would underestimate him.

Originally posted by Newjak
Yeah that would be prett cool.

Although I've seen a picture where there is something like a ninja Juggs which seems pretty kool
I'd love a Ninja Juggernaut. Magical swords that are as unbreakable as his armor and stuff like that. Awesome.

They'd have to possibly make Jug less heavy so that he would be faster and more agile if he's going all Ninja on us.

But yeah, Ninja-Jug sounds really, really awesome.

Originally posted by long pig
He's not dumb anymore, in fact, he's a genius.
When he went around absorbing minds in the Hulk comics, he also absorbed their intelligence (the scientists and such who were keeping him in lock down) and he kept it. AM is uber smart now.

They hinted that he may have never actually been dumb, he just used to pretend so people would underestimate him.
I heard that that version of AM was retconned later in Captain Marvel as an alternate Creel.

Originally posted by Accel
I heard that that version of AM was retconned later in Captain Marvel as an alternate Creel.
Possibly, I don't know that story. All I know is what I saw in those comics and he was a genius.

Where did you hear it was retconned?

I heard a little while ago on SHC when some one brought up Absorbing Man's new mind abilities. Someone else stated that it was revealed to be an AM form an alternate dimension or something like that in Captain Marvel. He didn't seem completely sure though, so it could have been something else.

If you want, I could ask him where he read it specifically.

I'd appreciate it.

It's a bummer if you're right, I rather liked Absorbing Man being a genius with new powers. AM is a world wide threat if he's smart.

great i cant wait.. to see the new juggernaut

How long until it comes out?

New Excalibur #12 just came out this week, and #15 is to be released January 10/07

NE #13 (November 15/06) starts the 3 part "UNREDEEMED" arc.

does anyone have scans fro new exacalibur #12 ..........i think it starts to shows the build up of juggeranaut's charecter for #15

New Excalibur #15 preview.
http://www.wizarduniverse.com/magazine/wizard/002961434.cfm

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
New Excalibur #15 preview.
http://www.wizarduniverse.com/magazine/wizard/002961434.cfm

I really hope Juggernaut gets his hands back on the gem, if Marvel decides to have Juggernaut reject it I might stop reading Excalibur.

Originally posted by long pig
I'd love a Ninja Juggernaut. Magical swords that are as unbreakable as his armor and stuff like that. Awesome.

They'd have to possibly make Jug less heavy so that he would be faster and more agile if he's going all Ninja on us.

But yeah, Ninja-Jug sounds really, really awesome.

He would be too big to be a ninja

Ninas are supposed to be stealthy and agile, not huge and destructive

Originally posted by Grimm22
He would be too big to be a ninja

Ninas are supposed to be stealthy and agile, not huge and destructive
You don't have to be silent to be a ninja, you only have to obey certain rules and codes. They only reason Ninjas are quiet is because they are so lightly armed and they need to sneek. Jug could follow the Ninja code and just be a badass bulldozer at the same time.

Works for Wolverine.

Originally posted by long pig
I just read a synapses. I thought it was out.

Damn it Souja. I blame you and also....digimark.

Someone better scan that comic page by page when they get it. I'm dying to see what happens, aren't you??

I knew you were behind this.

Originally posted by Grimm22
He would be too big to be a ninja

Ninas are supposed to be stealthy and agile, not huge and destructive

He could be a big ass samurai.

Also great link to the preview.

Originally posted by long pig
You don't have to be silent to be a ninja, you only have to obey certain rules and codes. They only reason Ninjas are quiet is because they are so lightly armed and they need to sneek. Jug could follow the Ninja code and just be a badass bulldozer at the same time.

Works for Wolverine.

Could you imagine Juggernaut tip toeing everywhere trying to be incognito?

Originally posted by Newjak
Yeah that would be prett cool.

Although I've seen a picture where there is something like a ninja Juggs which seems pretty kool

That Ninja Juggernaut is a Korean person that Cyttorak gave powers to. it shows it at the beginning of #14 where he became a Juggernaut. Not sure if that was in the past (being one of the Juggernauts priors to Cain) but at the end of #15 there is the Juggernaut with two swords on his back about to attack Cain, so I'm thinking that the Korean guy from the beginning is the one that's about to attack Cain. Cyttorak is testing him to see if he is worthy of the gem.

Originally posted by supervenom
That Ninja Juggernaut is a Korean person that Cyttorak gave powers to. it shows it at the beginning of #14 where he became a Juggernaut. Not sure if that was in the past (being one of the Juggernauts priors to Cain) but at the end of #15 there is the Juggernaut with two swords on his back about to attack Cain, so I'm thinking that the Korean guy from the beginning is the one that's about to attack Cain. Cyttorak is testing him to see if he is worthy of the gem.

I think the Juggernaut with the stone armor was way before Cain. The Ninja one is very recent.

So is he back?

I know what happened anyone have any scans at all?

Originally posted by Newjak
I know what happened anyone have any scans at all?

What happened??????

NE#15 got pushed back, didn't it?

It's supposed to come out the 10th. But my shop already had it, but it was on the "next week display" shelf.

Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
What happened?????? Perhaps I should have worded that different

I was agreeing with outavodka that I know I want to know what ahppened as well

Then I was asking if anyone had any scans

So all in all I have no clue what is going on.

Originally posted by Newjak
Perhaps I should have worded that different

I was agreeing with outavodka that I know I want to know what ahppened as well

Then I was asking if anyone had any scans

So all in all I have no clue what is going on.
He doesn't get his powers back. He actually gets weaker.

Originally posted by long pig
He doesn't get his powers back. He actually gets weaker.

WTF. Is that how the Arc ends or is there another issue left?

End of the Arc. Rejects the Gem. Leaves for home. New Jug is appointed and he wants to kill Cain.

This is what my comic shop said. Best comic shop name ever: "We've Got Issues!"

Awesome.

Originally posted by long pig
He doesn't get his powers back. He actually gets weaker. Your kidding right, I mean your using sarcasm and sh*t right!!!!!RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by long pig
End of the Arc. Rejects the Gem. Leaves for home. New Jug is appointed and he wants to kill Cain.

This is what my comic shop said. Best comic shop name ever: "We've Got Issues!"

Awesome. Awesome....did they show the new Juggy? I'm not picking it up until Saturday.

Originally posted by long pig
End of the Arc. Rejects the Gem. Leaves for home. New Jug is appointed and he wants to kill Cain.

This is what my comic shop said. Best comic shop name ever: "We've Got Issues!"

Awesome. NNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

This sucks man I don't want a new JUggernaut I want bad@ss I'm gonna F*ck you up Cain Juggernaut.

Originally posted by long pig
End of the Arc. Rejects the Gem. Leaves for home. New Jug is appointed and he wants to kill Cain.

This is what my comic shop said. Best comic shop name ever: "We've Got Issues!"

Awesome.

What are the chances of your comic shop pulling your leg just for fun?

Eh..you were probably being sarcastic...but just incase...doesn't the issue only come out tomorrow?

Wow

What are the chances?

Cain will probably get his powers back from the new juggernaut by some plot device, nothing to worry about.

will this new juggernaut actually unlock his full power.

Guess what do I have?

Juggernaut has the Gem of Cyttorak

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Juggernaut has the Gem of Cyttorak

Please post the scans

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Juggernaut has the Gem of Cyttorak

Yea but it is the end of the arc. So how long are we going to have to wait before he uses it?

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Originally posted by juggernaut66666
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Thanks

So he has the gem...I hope he is gonna be back and gonna smash and gonna stay with Excalibur.

Dude I can already see it Cain is going to go bonkers and beat the crap outta everyone.

By the way loved the arc especially showing the Onslaught and why he was after Cain and the idea that even Onslaught wasn't strong enough to resist.

Also the fact of how a Juggernaut is chosen was cool that you have to beat the old one to be the new one.

I think for the end of this episode that it was written pretty poorly. I was expecting A LOT more but o well.

That was a bad issue.

Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
Yea but it is the end of the arc. So how long are we going to have to wait before he uses it?
Use it?

Just having the gem means he's using it. He's friggin' back. Once he touches it, his powers are restored.


The only loose end is the fact he didn't kill the other Juggernaut, which goes along with what my dealer said. He said that Juggernaut will hunt Cain down for eternity.

Sort of like a Sabretooth/Wolverine thing.

Originally posted by Lucid Lui
That was a bad issue.
Poorly written, poorly drawn and poorly executed.

Still, it made me happy.

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a366/juggernaut66666/2-3.jpg
I love this shot. Just picture Onslaught saying "Kal El...were coming for you..."drooliodrooliodroolio

Originally posted by outavodka
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a366/juggernaut66666/2-3.jpg
I love this shot. Just picture Onslaught saying "Kal El...were coming for you..."drooliodrooliodroolio
......I will do no such thing.

Droolio once more and you will be penetrated. droolio

Originally posted by long pig
Use it?

Just having the gem means he's using it. He's friggin' back. Once he touches it, his powers are restored.


Well it never showed Cain touching the gem. At the end he was holding the gem but it was in a cloth, so he wasn't physically touching it.

Also, I thought Cain had to say the words or Cyttorak still isn't letting him get the power.

Originally posted by long pig
......I will do no such thing.

Droolio once more and you will be penetrated. droolio nah im good long., but you know you want to see Supes gown down from that lot of baddies.

Yes, yes I would like to see Superman go down on a bunch of baddies...........yeah, I sure would.


Argggghh, you tease! Prepare for penetration!

Originally posted by supervenom
I think for the end of this episode that it was written pretty poorly. I was expecting A LOT more but o well. I think it was written pretty good for the guy writing it.

I mean he was only a temporary writer so it isn't like he can completely change the previous guy's work but he gave some interesting concepts to the Juggernaut character throughout

Plus the option is still there which I think is the most important part in that the end hasn't been decided yet.

Originally posted by Accel
Them fighting always turns out to be the same stuff. I'd like a team-up for once where they beat the crud out of different heroes together.

With Juggs suppsoedly turning to the dark side again and Hulk pissed at the world's heroes, they would have the motives for doing so.

Agreed, Hulk Juggeranught fights are always pretty dull.

Just bought issue #15 and I'm pretty dissapointed. Lame ending.

Originally posted by The Pict
Just bought issue #15 and I'm pretty dissapointed. Lame ending.

I think I would have liked it more if there was another full powered Juggernaut.


Instead of Cain just having the gem and later getting the powers back, there should have been another Juggernaut, then Cain gets the power back after a long fight between the new Juggy. Of course Cain would have alot of help.

But it would be nice to see an evil Juggernaut fighting a huge team one more time.

Originally posted by Doctor S.T.D.
Agreed, Hulk Juggeranught fights are always pretty dull.

Because its just two idiots smacking each other

Neither one can really defeat the other so its a lot less interesting than fights like, Thing vs Hulk or Namor vs Hulk, because then Hulk is facing a character who is completely different from himself

I wish Juggs and Colossus fights were more like that, but Colossus can't really even hurt Juggs because of his stupid magic shield, so it doesn't really even count as a fight in some ways

Originally posted by Grimm22
Because its just two idiots smacking each other

Neither one can really defeat the other so its a lot less interesting than fights like, Thing vs Hulk or Namor vs Hulk, because then Hulk is facing a character who is completely different from himself

I wish Juggs and Colossus fights were more like that, but Colossus can't really even hurt Juggs because of his stupid magic shield, so it doesn't really even count as a fight in some ways

When those two have fought Juggy never used his shield, Colossus is far outmatched. Plus Cain has beat the Hulk before, I know people say it was a "surprise" and he almost drowned him, but I think those factors would usually make someone really mad. There is usually some weird plot device that ends the fight. Ex. Prof X and Jean, or Red Skull telling Cain to stop before he kills Hulk.