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Storm vs Human Torch

whos wins?

It's been done on these forums and in the comics, Storm wins

....

Torch easily

10/10

Well it's been done in the comics. Storm won.

Comic > your opinion.

All it takes is one lightning bolt to the face.

So...what did that pic have to do with anything ?

Originally posted by What If...
Well it's been done in the comics. Storm won.

Comic > your opinion.

All it takes is one lightning bolt to the face.

Bullshit .

That's PIS of the highest order.

The only dangerous thing about the lightening (to Johnny at least) is the electrical current and effect to his heart. Thats it , the intense heat is nothing and were completely ignoring the fact that Johnny could dodge it.

Umm....since when is Johnny the speed of light?
That's right...he isn't. Can't dodge it. Sorry, you lose.

And the most dangerous thing about lightning IS NOT the heat, it's the blowing up of your face.

Maybe if she's not feeling in a lightning mood, she can put him out with some shattering rain like Iceman did.
http://img147.imageshack.us/my.php?image=uncannyxmen118162fg.jpg

Or maybe even a flash freeze.
http://img139.imageshack.us/my.php?image=frozencolossus8kl.jpg

Or maybe a flash flood.
http://img74.imageshack.us/my.php?image=uxm95pg094xk.jpg

Or maybe just the way she took him out the first time.
http://img217.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stormvshumantorch27un.jpg
http://img71.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stormvshumantorch33mk.jpg

Storm 10/10.

Originally posted by What If...
Umm....since when is Johnny the speed of light?
That's right...he isn't. Can't dodge it. Sorry, you lose.

Lol , don't tell me if your dodging lasers your 'movign at the speed of light' as well. Not forgetting that fact that as much as the narrator likes to hyperbole Storm can't actually summon a lightening bolt out of thin air , it would take at least minute or so to set itself up


Originally posted by What If...
Maybe if she's not feeling in a lightning mood, she can put him out with some shattering rain like Iceman did.
http://img147.imageshack.us/my.php?image=uncannyxmen118162fg.jpg

That has ZERO to do with Torch. If anything it's basic science , please tell me you understand expansion and contraction .

Now try again.


Originally posted by What If...
Or maybe even a flash freeze.
http://img139.imageshack.us/my.php?image=frozencolossus8kl.jpg

Forgetting that HT gives off such intense heat it would take a reasonable amount of time to actually accomplish it . Let alone the 'Atmospheric water' she's trying to saturate him in (Which by the way , would evaporate )

Originally posted by What If...
Or maybe a flash flood.
http://img74.imageshack.us/my.php?image=uxm95pg094xk.jpg

Real useful when a character can FLY

Originally posted by What If...
Or maybe just the way she took him out the first time.
http://img217.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stormvshumantorch27un.jpg
http://img71.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stormvshumantorch33mk.jpg

What ? By having Johny go through a series of pillars and causing the ceiling to fall on him ? Because it seems a hell of a lot more like self-pwnage then Storms doing. Plus were in the great outdoors , no pillars for Johny to go through.

Originally posted by What If...

Or maybe just the way she took him out the first time.
http://img217.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stormvshumantorch27un.jpg
http://img71.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stormvshumantorch33mk.jpg

Storm 10/10.

Maybe you should realise that johnny techniquly forfieted that fight, by not using an attack that would kill her, If he had used a nova blast it would have been instant mutant crispy...

His own fault. His lack of intelligence brought him down. He loses. And don't try to say she can't put him out. She already did
http://img217.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stormvshumantorch8yw.jpg




Maybe YOU should realise Storm had a building hovering above him, nova would in the end killed himself. Not to mention, by KMC rules characters will fight by thier normal attitude/morals...and Johnney not wanting to kill led him to his downfall

She is to versitle to for him. He loses.

Originally posted by What If...
His own fault. His lack of intelligence brought him down. He loses. And don't try to say she can't put him out. She already did :rofl:
http://img217.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stormvshumantorch8yw.jpg




Maybe YOU should realise Storm had a building hovering above him, nova would in the end killed himself. Not to mention, by KMC rules characters will fight by thier normal attitude/morals...and Johnney not wanting to kill led him to his downfall :lol"

But after he killed storm he could fly out the way of the building as she was no longer pinning him down, or he could just burn a hole through the debris to survive, and if characters are going by their usual moral codes then Storm wouldnt be hitting johnny with a building either would she?? And the only reason she did that in contest of the champions was because she was being manipulated to do anything she could to win, johnny managed to snap out of it at the end though, which is why he didnt use Nova.

Originally posted by What If...
His own fault. His lack of intelligence brought him down. He loses. And don't try to say she can't put him out. She already did
http://img217.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stormvshumantorch8yw.jpg




Maybe YOU should realise Storm had a building hovering above him, nova would in the end killed himself. Not to mention, by KMC rules characters will fight by thier normal attitude/morals...and Johnney not wanting to kill led him to his downfall

She is to versitle to for him. He loses.

So overall it's a case if PIS and stupid writing.

Oh and idiocy , because although you state she can 'put him out' he can quite clearly put himself 'on' again. Thus frying storm.

Right...he's going to do that all while he is piled under debris half way KO'ed. Storm didn't drop the building, so no...it was not out of her character.

Human Torch has few attacks that can instantly KO storm while I can think of dozens Storm has. She is to versitle for him.

His nova has never really done anything feat-worthy. Post some scans?

Originally posted by What If...
Right...he's going to do that all while he is piled under debris half way KO'ed. Storm didn't drop the building, so no...it was not out of her character.

Human Torch has few attacks that can instantly KO storm while I can think of dozens Storm has. She is to versitle for him.

His nova has never really done anything feat-worthy. Post some scans?

And looking at that again she was only holding some debris not the building. And Johnny said the Nova would reach her, and once he flames on he burns away the rest of the debris making an easy escape.

So What can Storm do that can instanly KO torch, And Torch dosn't need to KO her he just needs to light her on fire then she's in a whole lot of trouble, and I doubt she could concentrate while set on fire...

Originally posted by What If...

His nova has never really done anything feat-worthy. Post some scans?

hysterical

For starters, Johnny's full blown Nova one-shot Ultron who had just been amped up by Doom

Oh and Nova = the heat of the sun

Storm's Jovian pressure would do the trick.

Check out her respect thread, I am in no way naming every single thing she can do.

One of her best chances would be an instant hurricane.
http://img134.imageshack.us/my.php?image=uxm98p84xx.jpg

Despite everyones believes, her elemental conjurings take seconds to spawn (the hurricane appeared in less than 1 pannel), and be controlled in almost any enviorment, no matter what size. (hurricane in a clothes store for example, or the hurricane above NY, without damaging anything but her target)



As in his respect thread, that is his only decent feat.



Oh wow....

I had no idea the Sun had such a low temperature of 1,000,000 Fahrenheit

Originally posted by What If...
Storm's Jovian pressure would do the trick.

Check out her respect thread, I am in no way naming every single thing she can do.

One of her best chances would be an instant hurricane.
http://img134.imageshack.us/my.php?image=uxm98p84xx.jpg

Despite everyones believes, her elemental conjurings take seconds to spawn (the hurricane appeared in less than 1 pannel), and be controlled in almost any enviorment, no matter what size. (hurricane in a clothes store for example, or the hurricane above NY, without damaging anything but her target)

Dosn't matter the fact is she won't be beating Torch 10/10 for things he can avoid, especialy at the speeds he can fly.

He isn't going to be dodging a hurricane at the speed of sound, sweety.

No oxygen, no flame. Someone who controls the wind/pressure isn't going to be getting burned.

No sense in arguing when its been done.

Comic > opinion.

Originally posted by What If...
He isn't going to be dodging a hurricane at the speed of sound, sweety.

No oxygen, no flame. Someone who controls the wind/pressure isn't going to be getting burned.

No sense in arguing when its been done.

Comic > opinion.

No

What if's stupidity > Common logic ,science and irrefutable proof.

Dude if Torch can fly the speed of sound what kind of wind is Storm going to produce that creates more pressure then Torch flying that fast to begin with?

Not to mention she can create wind that doesn't stop heat, just the flame.

Originally posted by What If...


versus Bullshit PIS which you keep on using as 'proof' . Not that a single fireball wont put her down down for good.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=415805&perpage=20&highlight=storm+vs+human+torch&pagenumber=2

Close thread.




Not that a single lightning bolt won't put him down for good.

Speed of thought + light > Speed of thought + flame.



Just wow....

STORM!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anyway, I think its safe to say that Johnny would wreck Storm in h2h

Hmm doubt that too.

On any of his Bios it says nothing of H2H traning.

Storm on the other hand..."Storm is also a gifted hand-to-hand combatant, having been trained extensively by her fellow X-Man Wolverine"

Not to mention she went pure H2H when she didn't have her powers...

Oh, and she defeated Cyclops h2h.


OH....and Halle Berry > chris evans

http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/3514/fantasticfour37yq6.jpg

Still gotta stick with johnny personaly, but not by much thats for sure, he def has a fight on his hands.

Originally posted by Blair Wind

http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/3514/fantasticfour37yq6.jpg

That's a nice scan, to bad it's not 616 Storm. IIRC, didn't that Storm just join Brotherhood.

Storm wins this hands down. Didnt gladiator blow human torch out with a simple breath. Storm would overwhelm human torch. Just to versatile. By the way that scan that was shown of storm owning human torch was a good scan and was a good way of showing a win for storm.

Storm 10/10

Damn, you all LOVE discussing Storm.

Everytime a thread bites the dust, someone ressurects two more.

Storm 10/10

Originally posted by What If...

Oh wow....

I had no idea the Sun had such a low temperature of 1,000,000 Fahrenheit



This comment makes no sense seeing as how the surface of the sun is around 50,000 degrees farenheit and a nova blast is around 20X HOTTER than that.


Originally posted by 2damnloud
Damn, you all LOVE discussing Storm.

Everytime a thread bites the dust, someone ressurects two more.

Storm 10/10

Its only because we wanna hear more from you.

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/4527/blackpanther30dcp0005ck3.jpg
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p104/theweathergod/Black_Panther_30_DCP_0007.jpg
http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/9415/thunderandlightning7hx.jpg

Originally posted by Grimm22
hysterical

Oh and Nova = the heat of the sun

Fully Powered Lightning Bolt= 2 to 3 times hotter then the surface of the sun and contain over 1,000,000 volts of electricity.

Originally posted by phillipan


This comment makes no sense seeing as how the surface of the sun is around 50,000 degrees farenheit and a nova blast is around 20X HOTTER than that.


First off, this debate was nearly a year ago, why someone would bump it with a scan that isn't even legit is beyond me.

Secondly, no one ever said "His Nova is the temperature of the surface of the sun," but simply "the sun." which is incorrect. His nova is not the temperature of the sun. You don't know what you're talking about - so please leave .


Too bad 2damnloud wasn't even part of the orgininal debate. Seriously - leave.

Originally posted by carver9
Storm wins this hands down. Didnt gladiator blow human torch out with a simple breath. Storm would overwhelm human torch. Just to versatile. By the way that scan that was shown of storm owning human torch was a good scan and was a good way of showing a win for storm.

Storm 10/10

What you mean in contest of champions where Johnny baisicly let her win cause he didn't want to kill her with his nova flame?

Originally posted by Sparkz
What you mean in contest of champions where Johnny baisicly let her win cause he didn't want to kill her with his nova flame?

We really don't know if his nova blast would have reached Storm.

Originally posted by What If...
First off, this debate was nearly a year ago, why someone would bump it with a scan that isn't even legit is beyond me.


Because I felt like it? Why someone feels the need to complain like a two year old about it is beyond me

Originally posted by Blair Wind
Because I felt like it? Why someone feels the need to complain like a two year old about it is beyond me

Whining? Try baffled... by your stupidity.

It's okay, don't feel embarrassed you thought the scan was relevant to the 616

Originally posted by What If...
Whining? Try baffled... by your stupidity.

It's okay, don't feel embarrassed you thought the scan was relevant to the 616

crylaugh
Did you NOTICE the smilie I put up? Just a hint that maybe I wasn't being all that serious?

Guess not

the smiley was there, so he obviously knew it wasnt relevant...

i'll give this a day or so, if nobody contributes, it'll be closed...