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http://www.gamespot.com/news/6160340.html

Bully's boy-on-boy scenes causing a stir
Rockstar's latest lets players experiment with same-sex make-out sessions; ESRB says that content was considered in assigning the game a T-for-Teen rating.
By Brendan Sinclair, GameSpot
Posted Oct 23, 2006 10:46 am PT

Rockstar Games' Bully has been the subject of controversy since it was first announced more than a year ago. The game shipped to retail last week after a failed 11th-hour attempt by Florida lawyer Jack Thompson to have it banned.

However, the controversy surrounding the game might not be over with just yet. In navigating the angst-filled halls of Bullworth Academy as 15-year-old Jimmy Hopkins, players can participate in some extracurricular tonsil hockey with significant others. But while these significant others are typically female, there's at least one other boy in the game whom Jimmy can successfully court, as documented by this in-game video from GameBrink.

The Entertainment Software Rating Board surprised some people last month when it issued a T-for-Teen rating for the game. The content descriptors listed for the game on the ESRB's Web site are crude humor, language, use of alcohol and tobacco, violence, and sexual themes. When asked about the boy-on-boy make-out sessions, the ESRB told GameSpot, "That content was considered in the assignment of the rating."

Thompson addressed ESRB president Patricia Vance in an e-mail he claimed to have sent to "every major news organization in America and the UK," as well as a host of lawmakers and industry representatives.

"Dear Ms. Vance," Thompson wrote, "We just found gay sexual content in Bully, as Jimmy Hopkins makes out with another male student. Good luck with your 'Teen' rating now, Patty."

A representative from Bully publisher Take-Two had not responded to a request for comment as of press time.





Apparently, violence and guns are okay for Teen Rating...but a boy making out with another boy constitutes an M-Rating....

TONSIL HOCKEY LOLOLOLOLOLOL

This is why I love rockstar, they make great games and know how to piss of the dumbasses like Thompson and others.

But yes, it is a sad commentary on our society when people find violence and death acceptable for teens, but the expression of love is seen as dangerous and vile.

This is funny as hell. Violence and depravity are ok, but no sex? Whatever happened to make love, not war?

I just feel the whole concept to be utterly stupid. Sex in video games? Like WTF? I'm not paying nearly $50 to watch a bunch of pixels rub agaisn't each other. I'd rather take the money and buy me a porn video and that's it. Bully is so damn overrated anyways. Nothing inovating at all. Besides, what's the big stinkin deal of two males having a relationship in a video game? There is been other video games with this same sex relationships theme in the past. Why make Bully sucha big hype? Bah! waste of time indeed.

Seriously...who gives a flying ****?

I definitely agree with BackFire about how violence is fine, but anything about sex is bad.

They don't even DO anything. They just make out for like five seconds...there's no sex....

Have you played the game? It's supposed to be very very good, gotten great reviews across the board.

But yes, what is the big deal about to males kissing? I dunno, I have no idea why it's such a big deal, ask dipshit Jack Thompson and others like him.

Originally posted by BackFire
Have you played the game? It's supposed to be very very good, gotten great reviews across the board.

But yes, what is the big deal about to males kissing? I dunno, I have no idea why it's such a big deal, ask dipshit Jack Thompson and others like him.

Plus, you know very well that if it were two girls kissing, they probably wouldn't even blink an eye. Hello hypocrisy.

People kiss, get the hell over it and welcome to reality.

Originally posted by Draco69
They don't even DO anything. They just make out for like five seconds...there's no sex....




Hot Coffee mod 2? Here's hoping.

Originally posted by Lana
Plus, you know very well that if it were two girls kissing, they probably wouldn't even blink an eye. Hello hypocrisy.

People kiss, get the hell over it and welcome to reality.

Exactly. There were two girls in the Xbox game Jade Empire that made out and had sex.....

Nobody made a fuss about that....

Dear God, whatever will the world DO?! Bully is rated T and contains boys kissing!!!

Seriously, Mr. Thompson? You're dead. You blew your career trying to kill a game for content it didn't even have. So now you're trying to make up for it by, once again, blowing everything out of proportion and shouting "OMGMANSECKS!!!"

Who the hell cares? It's obviously optional for those who don't like it, and it's not even big enough to cause a stir by itself.

Plus I love his professionalism. "Good luck with your 'Teen' rating now, Patty." WTF.

Another plus for bully,
Mike Patton did the soundtrack...

Originally posted by BackFire
But yes, it is a sad commentary on our society when people find violence and death acceptable for teens, but the expression of love is seen as dangerous and vile.

lol.. rockstar ftw~ .. I wonder how much controvery they can cook up in future titles

I hear in GTA4 you play as an AIDS infected gay haitian who molests children and kills people by pricking them with an aids infected needle. One of the minigames is cutting your skin so that you can bleed all over the needle, making it infected.

lol.. and so it begins...

Is this Rockstar's first game without a Mature Rating? tongue_ss

I don't believe Ping Pong/Table Tennis got an M...

Originally posted by General Kaliero
I don't believe Ping Pong/Table Tennis got an M...

That would have to be one hell of an interesting Ping Pong game to get an M rating...

I have a joke/pun I'd LOVE to insert right here, but I won't, as I'm not an ass.

Just, uh, just imagine the connotations of paddling balls... oops.

Originally posted by Lana
That would have to be one hell of an interesting Ping Pong game to get an M rating...

What are you kidding? Ping Pong games get mature ratings like everyday......

Originally posted by Lana
That would have to be one hell of an interesting Ping Pong game to get an M rating...

Sexy Ping Pong imo.

Originally posted by Draco69
"Good luck with your 'Teen' rating now, Patty."

Oh noes iz gunna get a M now but peoples will still buyz it firefirefireph You fail.




Please, dont let me buy this game, I may turn gay watching two boys kiss Just like I might go out and steal cars, shoot people, join the Mafia and have sex with prostitutes.


Well, scratch the last part leftright

I rented the game and made the main character kiss another boy and it isn't that bad. I don't see whats the big deal about it, its just a kiss. Its pretty pathetic IMO if a someone sues it because of two guys kissing, when there are worse things like beating the crap out of lil kids or causing chaos in school by breaking into lockers and hitting everything in sight with a baseball bat.

movie title - "Mr Johnson goes to rockstar.......and makes a **** out of himself.....again"..

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
I just feel the whole concept to be utterly stupid. Sex in video games? Like WTF? I'm not paying nearly $50 to watch a bunch of pixels rub agaisn't each other. I'd rather take the money and buy me a porn video and that's it.

Isn't that effectively the same phenomenon?

Dunno...

But you won't believe me if I tell ya how many hours and hours of porn I could get for only $50.

couldnt you respectively get hours and hours of porn for nothing?

Hey, BackFire, you'll love this.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6160347.html

Originally posted by Lana
Hey, BackFire, you'll love this.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6160347.html

I read that. Probably won't go through though.

Originally posted by BackFire
I read that. Probably won't go through though.

Probably not, but it's always nice to see dumbasses get in trouble.

'Specially this one, considering how much he deserves it.

lol.. pork fried thompson.. mmm.. *throws soy sauce on it*

I hate Bully..actually I hate Rockstar in general. They just churn out the same shit again and again and again. F*ck GTA , Destroy all Humans uses the same formula and STILL has better graphics and results.

barker

If using the same formual is bad then you wouldn't like the Mario games, Zelda games or any game serie for that matter

Originally posted by grey fox
I hate Bully..actually I hate Rockstar in general. They just churn out the same shit again and again and again. F*ck GTA , Destroy all Humans uses the same formula and STILL has better graphics and results.


Destroy All Humans is on a much smaller scale, so it can afford better graphics.

And any franchise is usually "the same shit again and again", GTA makes advances from game to game as much as any other big franchise.

Society has no real reason to exist other than to pick at petty shit like this. I could careless if it were two bisexual people, or lesbians at that, it still wouldn't make me want to buy the game. I personally don't want to buy it, I also don't own any DOA games, or that bullshit Volleyball saga on xbox, which I don't own either.

Originally posted by Spartan005
Is this Rockstar's first game without a Mature Rating? tongue_ss

Actually..Table Tennis got an E.

Originally posted by IceJaw
barker

If using the same formual is bad then you wouldn't like the Mario games, Zelda games or any game serie for that matter

Yes but those TRY to break the mold. Look at SMS. Quite different from your average SM game...in-fact what Mario game HAS been 'the same' .

Mario Bros - Arcade

Super Mario Bros - Side Scroller

Super Mario Bros 2 - Platformer

Super Mario Bro's 3 - Platofrmer . Mini games and story ties/advances

Super Mario Land - Introduction of the Submarine and Plane levels

Super Mario World - Yoshi

The stories are also different , sure Peach get's captured but theres always soem major difference.

Gta - Become king of a crime emperor while dealing with various other illegal activites.

Thats it...every game has the same under lying plot.

Originally posted by BackFire
This is why I love rockstar, they make great games and know how to piss of the dumbasses like Thompson and others.

But yes, it is a sad commentary on our society when people find violence and death acceptable for teens, but the expression of love is seen as dangerous and vile.
I haven't got there yet, but I assume this experimentation is with Petey.

Or Gary. Clearly, he has homosexual sexually sadistic tendencies.

If I'm wrong, don't tell me. If I'm right, give me points.

Originally posted by grey fox
Yes but those TRY to break the mold. Look at SMS. Quite different from your average SM game...in-fact what Mario game HAS been 'the same' .

Mario Bros - Arcade

Super Mario Bros - Side Scroller

Super Mario Bros 2 - Platformer

Super Mario Bro's 3 - Platofrmer . Mini games and story ties/advances

Super Mario Land - Introduction of the Submarine and Plane levels

Super Mario World - Yoshi

The stories are also different , sure Peach get's captured but theres always soem major difference.

Gta - Become king of a crime emperor while dealing with various other illegal activites.

Thats it...every game has the same under lying plot.

As much as I like Mario, and dislike the GTA series, I can't help but notice the tenuousness of this analysis.


On another note, imagine how much of a 'stir' girl-on-girl scenes would have caused.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
This is funny as hell. Violence and depravity are ok, but no sex? Whatever happened to make love, not war?

use the old princible, "alls fair love and war, and i don't believe in love"

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
As much as I like Mario, and dislike the GTA series, I can't help but notice the tenuousness of this analysis.


On another note, imagine how much of a 'stir' girl-on-girl scenes would have caused.

Absolutely none, and I made that point already.

If it's just a few second long kiss, I don't even see why it's an issue. Now, American Pie 2's guy-on-guy Kiss was pretty nasty.