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Can Karate Kid beat Someone who taught Gamora her fighting skills and spent 80 years in the baddest place in the universe honing his fighting skills. Fist to Fist battle


Thanos- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thanos

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Karate Kid- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karate_Kid_%28comics%29

In all seriousness, Thanos wins. The joke was funny, but it needs to end here.

I honestly think that Karate Kid would go down here, .

even if KK had the better skils, Thanos has far better strength, stanima, reaction time, and he kills like some breathe. plus Thanos would cheat.

He wouldn't need to cheat, Thanos would just outfight him.

He is also invulnerable to physical harm

Thanos wins in a hands down victory. I take it this is a joke thread?

KK would defeat Thanos 10/10 in H2H combat, KK fought and defeated the PC JSU, he also foughted and bested PC Superboy in combat.

He could find a weakness to anything regardless of if it was human, alien, mechanical, energy based, he was able to mysticaly sense and pin point the weak points of a beings existance.

Originally posted by Board Walker
KK would defeat Thanos 10/10 in H2H combat, KK fought and defeated the PC JSU, he also foughted and bested PC Superboy in combat.

He could find a weakness to anything regardless of if it was human, alien, mechanical, energy based, he was able to mysticaly sense and pin point the weak points of a beings existance.

Karate Kid's big claim to fame was pretty much beating down Superboy.

Thanos is quite a bit higher than Superboy on the 'kick-ass-o-meter'.

Originally posted by Board Walker
KK would defeat Thanos 10/10 in H2H combat, KK fought and defeated the PC JSU, he also foughted and bested PC Superboy in combat.

He could find a weakness to anything regardless of if it was human, alien, mechanical, energy based, he was able to mysticaly sense and pin point the weak points of a beings existance.

He held his own against Superboy for only a brief period of time. Thanos is a master in HTH combat skills, Karate Kid only has 30th century skills. Thanos is over 10,000 years old and travelled all over the universe for 80 years to fight people just to learn to have better hand to hand combat skills. He went to every dark, nasty place he could find, just to learn better skills at fighting. He has fight experience many times how old Karate kid is in terms of years.

To top it off, even if Karate Kid were to damage an internal organ, Thanos has the ability to manipulate his body on the molecular scale, so he could have the body part repaired and altered within minutes, thus eliminating the weak spot.

Superboy may have been incredibly strong and durable, but he was just an average joe when it came to fighting, he didn't even need to develop much fighting skill, he relied on his powers to hold his own. Thanos is a trained fighter, and has fought every class of being including lesser cosmics such as in-betweener, even was able to dodge every attack the Champion launched at him. He made an elder of the universe look like a fool in hand to hand, we're talking someone with 5 to 10 billion years experience in hand to hand combat!

Originally posted by Soljer
Karate Kid's big claim to fame was pretty much beating down Superboy.

Thanos is quite a bit higher than Superboy on the 'kick-ass-o-meter'.

Are you implying Thanos could defeat Pre-Crisis Superboy and the Pre-Crisis JLU, in Hand to hand combat?

Karate Kid has done both of these things quite effortlessly.

Originally posted by Kutulu
He held his own against Superboy for only a brief period of time. Thanos is a master in HTH combat skills, Karate Kid only has 30th century skills. Thanos is over 10,000 years old and travelled all over the universe for 80 years to fight people just to learn to have better hand to hand combat skills. He went to every dark, nasty place he could find, just to learn better skills at fighting. He has fight experience many times how old Karate kid is in terms of years.

To top it off, even if Karate Kid were to damage an internal organ, Thanos has the ability to manipulate his body on the molecular scale, so he could have the body part repaired and altered within minutes, thus eliminating the weak spot.

He doesn't dammage organs, he attacks their mystical energy, the very threading that holds their existance together.

Rocks and buildings do not have organs, yet he sees, feels, and senses the very life and energy flowing through them and is able to pin point exactly where to hit to destory, shatter, or stun them.

Originally posted by Board Walker
He doesn't dammage organs, he attacks their mystical energy, the very threading that holds their existance together.

Rocks and buildings do not have organs, yet he sees, feels, and senses the very life and energy flowing through them and is able to pin point exactly where to hit to destory, shatter, or stun them.

Thanos is a master of manipulating internal energy. He literally can control his energy in any way he chooses, and he knows more about life energy than Karate Kid or Superboy ever would in their entire lifetime, he has direct communication with Death herself!

Yes, Thanos would pound the crap out of Superboy and backhand karate kid while he was at it at the same time. Thanos is a team killer level opponent; you need someone of skyfather level caliber to take down Thanos.

Originally posted by Kutulu
Thanos is a master of manipulating internal energy. He literally can control his energy in any way he chooses, and he knows more about life energy than Karate Kid or Superboy ever would in their entire lifetime, he has direct communication with Death herself!

Yes, Thanos would pound the crap out of Superboy and backhand karate kid while he was at it at the same time. Thanos is a team killer level opponent; you need someone of skyfather level caliber to take down Thanos.

yes you do, but not in hand to hand.

I don't know much about KK but his skills are pretty uber, and if Thanos can't use his tech, and has to fight H2H I don't see why arguably the best H2H fighter couldn't beat him

Originally posted by Stupid Rookie
yes you do, but not in hand to hand.

I don't know much about KK but his skills are pretty uber, and if Thanos can't use his tech, and has to fight H2H I don't see why arguably the best H2H fighter couldn't beat him

The best fighter from the 30th century of Earth, but he's got nothing on Thanos.

Thanos has it over KK in every way - mental, physical, skill, and experience.

I would say that KK takes this if his and Thanos' strength were the same.

But Thanos is way to strong for KK to overcome.

Thanos wins 10/10

thanos

Originally posted by Galan777
I would say that KK takes this if his and Thanos' strength were the same.

But Thanos is way to strong for KK to overcome.

Thanos wins 10/10

thanos

I doubt Thanos is stronger then PC Superboy, or then PC Val.

KK does not defeat an opponent with strength, he manipulates his opponents strengths.

Originally posted by Board Walker
I doubt Thanos is stronger then PC Superboy, or then PC Val.

KK does not defeat an opponent with strength, he manipulates his opponents strengths.

Against an inexperienced fighter like Superboy, Thanos could do the same thing.

Thanos is well versed in using his opponent's strength against themselves and would easily stomp out Karate Kid in a heartbeat. I can't honestly fathom of why you think Karate Kid would stand a chance of even landing one hit against Thanos.

If you gave Karate Kid ten thousand years of training to prep in the fight against Thanos, then maybe (and only MAYBE) would he stand a chance.

If KK can go toe to toe with Pre-Crisis Superboy he should have no problem here
Plus Thanos don't know any h2h fighting skills. If any it isn't no where near the level of KK's. Thanos usually relies on either vast cosmic power or brute strength. Thanos using martial arts is a joke


Pre-Crisis Superboy>>>>>>>>>Thanos in shear strength and speed.

KK is immensely dangerous, but no, he can't beat Thanos whatsoever.

Originally posted by h1a8
Plus Thanos don't know any h2h fighting skills.


Bwahahahahah oh man you're really knee deep in it now. I take it that you don't even know who Thanos is? Try reading up on his history, making such utterly retarded statements such as that just makes your future statements lack credibility.

Let me reiterate this for you:
http://www.corvusonline.net/thanos/Thanos2.html

"Thanos is also a hightly skillled combatant, having trained himself in many different fighting-styles from throughout the universe. "

Let's break down what this means: Take a being that has a brain that puts a supercomputer to shame and is already older than most civilizations on the Earth. Have him travel all throughout the universe and learn different fighting styles from thousands of different alien species, many of which are more advanced than 30th century Earth.

Then to top it off for good measure give him:
* Strength which has a starting value far higher than the Hulk, which is augmentable using power cosmic.
* Mental and physical Speed which is enough to dodge a faster than light attack from silver surfer (FTL speed blitz)
* Durability which is enough to stand up to full force blasts from Odin, a blast which makes Galactus exert himself, and a full force blast from Tyrant, and enough to shrug off an energy blast from the Silver Surfer direct to the face with no effect.
* Self-healing and self-repair which can heal even deadly internal injuries in a matter of minutes
* Cosmic energy to constantly tap so that he never tires physically (he could literally fight for a year non-stop at full force and not get tired, nor need to eat, sleep, etc.)

I am leaving out his other immense powers, as the ones I listed directly pertain to this fight.

Now, let's go over what Karate Kid has:
* advanced martial arts from 30th century Earth.

Do the math.

Originally posted by Ultraman Baltan
KK is immensely dangerous, but no, he can't beat Thanos whatsoever.

Yes he can

Pre Crisis Superboy anyone
Dragging an entire solar system faster than light to another solar system with a smile on his face.

Not only does this shows near infinity strength but near infinite speed as well. Yet KK went toe to toe with him.
And how do we know what martial arts will be developed by the 30th century?
By that time martial arts can be so strong that its practitioners may be like Q's (from Star Strek TNG). Able to summon any strength, reflexes, speed, durability, etc to defeat a foe. Call it quatum chi

Originally posted by h1a8
Yes he can

Pre Crisis Superboy anyone
Dragging an entire solar system faster than light to another solar system with a smile on his face.

Not only does this shows near infinity strength but near infinite speed as well. Yet KK went toe to toe with him.
And how do we know what martial arts will be developed by the 30th century?
By that time martial arts can be so strong that its practitioners may be like Q's (from Star Strek TNG). Able to summon any strength, reflexes, speed, durability, etc to defeat a foe. Call it quatum chi

Superboy had zip, zero, zilch martial arts skill. A trained master like Thanos would stomp him out in a heartbeat even though his physical strength and durability are vastly superior. It's no wonder a human beat him in hand to hand.

Think about it: when you can grab a neutron star with your hand and just toss it light years away, why train in martial arts? Who can blame him. Fact is though is that he was just a BOY in terms of combat skill.

Originally posted by h1a8
Yes he can

Pre Crisis Superboy anyone
Dragging an entire solar system faster than light to another solar system with a smile on his face.

Not only does this shows near infinity strength but near infinite speed as well. Yet KK went toe to toe with him.
And how do we know what martial arts will be developed by the 30th century?
By that time martial arts can be so strong that its practitioners may be like Q's (from Star Strek TNG). Able to summon any strength, reflexes, speed, durability, etc to defeat a foe. Call it quatum chi That was Superboy Prime. He was also stronger back then.
KK fought Pre Crisis Superboy, not Superboy Prime! Superboy Prime back then, was WAY stronger than Superboy!

What we need to determin here, is whether Gamora is more skilled then Karate kid.

She fought Thanos and used a nerve shot on him and everybody thought she killed him but even she said that If she was really getting to close to touching him he would have stoped her. Also Thanos was going toe to toe with a Berserker Thor who was rumored to be ten times stronger then normal Thor.

Originally posted by golem370
She fought Thanos and used a nerve shot on him and everybody thought she killed him but even she said that If she was really getting to close to touching him he would have stoped her. Also Thanos was going toe to toe with a Berserker Thor who was rumored to be ten times stronger then normal Thor.

Actually that was Thor with the Infinity Gem, which allowed him to be backed by potentially infinite strength, so the more angry that he got, the stronger and durable he got. Towards the end he was way more than ten times his normal strength. Normal Thor stood no chance of even landing one hammer blow on Thanos.

Yeah but there was some debate that he was able to use it.

Originally posted by golem370
She fought Thanos and used a nerve shot on him and everybody thought she killed him but even she said that If she was really getting to close to touching him he would have stoped her. Also Thanos was going toe to toe with a Berserker Thor who was rumored to be ten times stronger then normal Thor. Toe to toe?
You mean running and hiding and coming back with a plot device?

Originally posted by golem370
Yeah but there was some debate that he was able to use it.

The wielder of an infinity gem taps into it subconsciously. That is exactly what Thor was doing, he was wasting people that were his equal normally in just a few blows.

Let's compare Thor with the power gem:
http://img362.imageshack.us/my.php?image=silversurferv3088080dt.jpg
http://img362.imageshack.us/my.php?image=silversurferv3088097yu.jpg
http://img362.imageshack.us/my.php?image=silversurferv3088112mv.jpg
http://img362.imageshack.us/my.php?image=silversurferv3088137mo.jpg
http://img362.imageshack.us/my.php?image=silversurferv3088143ac.jpg
http://img362.imageshack.us/my.php?image=silversurferv3088156ti.jpg

Now let's see Thor without the Power gem:
http://img473.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainmarvel017030bj.jpg

http://www.corvusonline.net/thanos/thanos10.jpg

Also here is a scan of Thanos BEFORE he got any of the infinity gems and shows his low level reality manipulation skills.
http://img516.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thanosquest1105ox.jpg

Here is a classic scan, it shows Thanos pimp-handing Drax and the Hulk at the same time, after the infinity gauntlet was stripped from him:
http://img506.imageshack.us/my.php?image=theinfinitygauntlet06404fo.jpg

Originally posted by Kutulu
The wielder of an infinity gem taps into it subconsciously. That is exactly what Thor was doing, he was wasting people that were his equal normally in just a few blows.

Let's compare Thor with the power gem:
http://img362.imageshack.us/my.php?image=silversurferv3088080dt.jpg
http://img362.imageshack.us/my.php?image=silversurferv3088097yu.jpg
http://img362.imageshack.us/my.php?image=silversurferv3088112mv.jpg
http://img362.imageshack.us/my.php?image=silversurferv3088137mo.jpg
http://img362.imageshack.us/my.php?image=silversurferv3088143ac.jpg
http://img362.imageshack.us/my.php?image=silversurferv3088156ti.jpg

Now let's see Thor without the Power gem:
http://img473.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainmarvel017030bj.jpg

http://www.corvusonline.net/thanos/thanos10.jpg

Also here is a scan of Thanos BEFORE he got any of the infinity gems and shows his low level reality manipulation skills.
http://img516.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thanosquest1105ox.jpg

Here is a classic scan, it shows Thanos pimp-handing Drax and the Hulk at the same time, after the infinity gauntlet was stripped from him:
http://img506.imageshack.us/my.php?image=theinfinitygauntlet06404fo.jpg On the same note, it's a little misleading, Thor has put Thanos on his ass more than once. Even batted him through space.

Spiderman swung in on web and rocked Thanos once.

Originally posted by Juntai
Toe to toe?
You mean running and hiding and coming back with a plot device?

No I mean fighting him for a while getting bored because they weren't getting anywhere in the fight and then using his brain to stop Thor completely

In a fist fight, Thanos was having difficulties with Cap, and that's a LONG way from Karate Kid.

Originally posted by Juntai
In a fist fight, Thanos was having difficulties with Cap, and that's a LONG way from Karate Kid.

I think this pic sums up how the fight would go with Karate Kid:
http://img111.exs.cx/img111/2192/Thanos_vs_HulkDrax.jpg

Originally posted by Juntai
On the same note, it's a little misleading, Thor has put Thanos on his ass more than once. Even batted him through space.

Spiderman swung in on web and rocked Thanos once.

That loss was a clone of Thanos, not the real deal:
http://img457.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ia3076lh.jpg

Yeah and If Spider-Man did they same thing to K-Kid he would been rocked ten times harder. He also withstood being inside a black hole without super speed with only a few scatches. I don't care how good K-Kids fighting ability is He not that good.

Pic
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h171/golem370/history52.jpg

Thanos' superior physical attributes will only work against him in a fight with karate kid, even current Karate Kid can throw around high end brutes like he's tossing pancakes. The stronger you are, the more he utilizes that power against you. Thanos had trouble with Cap hand to hand, he's going to have his hands full with KK.

His durability would definately play out though. Hmm.
Thanos is one of the most durable characters I've seen.

He'll get thrown around and outclassed in most ever sense of the word, imo, but what could really come of it?

I am sure that Thanos could match Karate Kid in a skill fight like it said he taught Gamora and spent 80 years in the worst places in the world fighting. He is a great fighter with incredible strength enchanced agility and reflexes and almost total indestructible durability suriving in a Black Hole taken many powerful shots from Odin Galactus and a nuclear size shot from Maker/Beyonder

Thanos 10/10

You DC fanboys don't even pay attention to logic in these threads. Do you guys even you realize how stupid this whole concept of KK is?

Originally posted by bigbran
That was Superboy Prime. He was also stronger back then.
KK fought Pre Crisis Superboy, not Superboy Prime! Superboy Prime back then, was WAY stronger than Superboy!
No.

Originally posted by Juntai
Thanos' superior physical attributes will only work against him in a fight with karate kid, even current Karate Kid can throw around high end brutes like he's tossing pancakes. The stronger you are, the more he utilizes that power against you. Thanos had trouble with Cap hand to hand, he's going to have his hands full with KK.
When did Thanos have a hard time with Cap?

Originally posted by boriquaking55
Thanos 10/10

You DC fanboys don't even pay attention to logic in these threads. Do you guys even you realize how stupid this whole concept of KK is?
Doesn't matter how stupid you think it is. KK has hung with people that crap on Thanos in a heartbeat.

Originally posted by boriquaking55
Thanos 10/10

You DC fanboys don't even pay attention to logic in these threads. Do you guys even you realize how stupid this whole concept of KK is?

^^ Quoted for Truth.

Originally posted by Validus
Doesn't matter how stupid you think it is. KK has hung with people that crap on Thanos in a heartbeat.

So has Batman, I'm guessing based upon your logic that you think Batman could take out Thanos too.

PUH-LEEZE.

SO much of the reasoning behind this junk will not be a factor in this. We are not talking about powers, we are talking H2H. No Cosmic blasts, no tech. All these examples of Thanos owning people (like warrior madness Thor) he used tech, or some other power to enable victory (like the Champion) I don't like KK, but if we are talking about a straight up H2H fight I don't see why he couldn't hold his own. I don't think Thanos would ever be able to hit him. I am not sure that KK's hits would hurt Thanos, but either way you can't pretend like Thanos is the best H2H fighter in the universe and would immediatly dispatch KK.

Originally posted by Stupid Rookie
SO much of the reasoning behind this junk will not be a factor in this. We are not talking about powers, we are talking H2H. No Cosmic blasts, no tech. All these examples of Thanos owning people (like warrior madness Thor) he used tech, or some other power to enable victory (like the Champion) I don't like KK, but if we are talking about a straight up H2H fight I don't see why he couldn't hold his own. I don't think Thanos would ever be able to hit him. I am not sure that KK's hits would hurt Thanos, but either way you can't pretend like Thanos is the best H2H fighter in the universe and would immediatly dispatch KK.

Thanos' internal energy manipulation is a part of his being and would apply in this fight. I posted scans of him fighting Thor with the powergem to show that he could hold his own against someone backed by infinite strength.

The only thing his technology provides is a forcefield and teleportion, neither of which he needs to totally smash KK into oblivion. Thanos is one of the most well trained fighters in the MU, so I don't see how you ignore the fact that he trained Gamora in fighting and studied myriad other alien fighting styles.

Let me put it to you this way. Think about all the martial arts styles on Earth. Muy Thai, Kung Fu, Karate, Jiujutsu, Capoiera, Russian wrestling styles, mixed martial arts (MMA). These evolved over several hundred years, and only encompass just humans.

Now imagine hundreds maybe thousands of different alien species, all having developed their own styles of fighting, and some of whom have a much older civilization than Earth (thousands, maybe conceivably millions of years). Now imagine someone going around the universe, who has an eidetic memory (can instantly memorize anything he's ever seen) and who already has a very complex understand of martial arts in various forms, going around and studying these different styles.

You really think a mere human, just because he's studies human martial arts that were a thousand years more advanced, is going to beat someone like that?

The only thing technology does for Thanos right now is teleportion and shields - his strength is already incredible and he can augment it to an extreme degree by his own internal energies, not to mention his speed and durability.

Can KK control his body at the molecular level? No.
Can KK withstand being blasted by a skyfather? No.
KK can't hold a candle to Thanos in any way, shape or form, no matter how poorly he is written.

Its his thing.

He's trained in MA from all over the universe.

He's beaten better than the Titan.

Is this a joke? This fight would be just like Thanos vs Squirrel girl. Karate Kid would only have a chance of winning in a comic due to massive PIS. Without it Thanos kills him in seconds.

Ok guys I'm tired of reading he has fought better and its his thing.


Tell me how is KK supposed to beat a person who expotentially stronger, has decent skill, can not die, and has a HF?

Originally posted by Kutulu
So has Batman, I'm guessing based upon your logic that you think Batman could take out Thanos too.

PUH-LEEZE.
Batman is not Karate Kid, genius.

KK is not street level. People need to get that through their skulls.

Originally posted by Newjak
Ok guys I'm tired of reading he has fought better and its his thing.


Tell me how is KK supposed to beat a person who expotentially stronger, has decent skill, can not die, and has a HF?
Tell me how Thanos will actually land a hit on Val. I'm not saying KK will win at all. It's a stalemate. Val can't really hurt him and Thanos will never lay a hand on him unless anyone wants to argue that Thanos is as fast as PC Kryptonians/Daxamites and Flashes which is what it took to land a hit on him.

Originally posted by Validus
Tell me how Thanos will actually land a hit on Val. I'm not saying KK will win at all. It's a stalemate. Val can't really hurt him and Thanos will never lay a hand on him unless anyone wants to argue that Thanos is as fast as PC Kryptonians/Daxamites and Flashes which is what it took to land a hit on him.

I posted a dozen scans already of why Thanos would utterly destroy KK, you have yet to post one scan backing up your statements. Show me where KK has fought someone of Darkseid's level and held his own (not Superboy who has no clue about fighting techniques other than be super strong and super fast). Hmm that's right, you can't, that's too bad, because for a second I almost believed you.... NOT.

I like how you utterly refuse to acknowledge the fact that Thanos is a tactics master. He has fought beings that are stronger and faster than him and still won because he is a super-genius on the level of which no mere human could understand. KK would get a couple hits on Thanos, Thanos would realize what he was doing, calculate how to defeat him based upon his movements, then knock his ass out in one good shot, and KK would be down for the count.

Originally posted by Validus
Tell me how Thanos will actually land a hit on Val. I'm not saying KK will win at all. It's a stalemate. Val can't really hurt him and Thanos will never lay a hand on him unless anyone wants to argue that Thanos is as fast as PC Kryptonians/Daxamites and Flashes which is what it took to land a hit on him.

Agreed. Once again I am not saying that KK wins, but people are underestimating him. I hate KK but the guy is pretty much the best H2H guy in comics.

Originally posted by Stupid Rookie
Agreed. Once again I am not saying that KK wins, but people are underestimating him. I hate KK but the guy is pretty much the best H2H guy in comics.

Post a scan of KK smacking around pre-crisis Darkseid, or how about pre-crisis Mongul, or someone else of their calibre, until then, what you say has no meaning. In other words, someone who isn't just a powerful guy who has no idea how to fight (e.g. superboy or Flash).

Originally posted by Validus
Tell me how Thanos will actually land a hit on Val. I'm not saying KK will win at all. It's a stalemate. Val can't really hurt him and Thanos will never lay a hand on him unless anyone wants to argue that Thanos is as fast as PC Kryptonians/Daxamites and Flashes which is what it took to land a hit on him. How about out lasting him. Like you KK can't win.

All Thanos has to do is outlast him. KK for everything he is is only human and therefore grows old grows tired needs to eat slep stuff like that.

Originally posted by Kutulu
I posted a dozen scans already of why Thanos would utterly destroy KK, you have yet to post one scan backing up your statements. Show me where KK has fought someone of Darkseid's level and held his own (not Superboy who has no clue about fighting techniques other than be super strong and super fast). Hmm that's right, you can't, that's too bad, because for a second I almost believed you.... NOT.

I like how you utterly refuse to acknowledge the fact that Thanos is a tactics master. He has fought beings that are stronger and faster than him and still won because he is a super-genius on the level of which no mere human could understand. KK would get a couple hits on Thanos, Thanos would realize what he was doing, calculate how to defeat him based upon his movements, then knock his ass out in one good shot, and KK would be down for the count.

Dude, I went back and looked at your scans and saw pretty much nothing demonstrating H2H skills. Power yes, but H2H no.
Again, I am not really saying KK wins, but you talk as if you showed us scans of Thanos owning people in a fistfight.

He took down WM Thor with Tech, and when he is blasting Thor, he is using cosmic power. No one is arguing who is more powerful or who would beat more people. Thanos would kill KK, he could just destroy the planet, but in H2H KK is a harder test for Thanos than the Hulk or many others would be.

Also before you give me an nonsense about scans I don't read KK, but look in the respect thread.

Originally posted by Newjak
How about out lasting him. Like you KK can't win.

All Thanos has to do is outlast him. KK for everything he is is only human and therefore grows old grows tired needs to eat slep stuff like that.
I've never seen KK get tired. KK is human technically but you'd think with all the stuff he's done, people would know he doesn't operate at their level. It's like everyone thinks he's Batman x2. The guy hit harder than PC top tiers and was fast enough to fight speedsters on par with Barry Allen. Doesn't sound like a mere human.

And to the other guy, none of your scans show any hand to hand skills so they're all moot.

Originally posted by Juntai
In a fist fight, Thanos was having difficulties with Cap, and that's a LONG way from Karate Kid. Scans?
Plus, why do you bring pis in this thread? You know it, I know it, everyone knows that would be pis.
Even if, IF Cap was more skilled than him, how the hell would he have problems?
That would be like (to an extent) Superman having problems to Batman.
Come on Juntai!

Thanos' thousands of years of perfecting physical combat ends up in him reaching out and smacking people, ala Darkseid.

Originally posted by bigbran
Scans?
Plus, why do you bring pis in this thread? You know it, I know it, everyone knows that would be pis.
Even if, IF Cap was more skilled than him, how the hell would he have problems?
That would be like (to an extent) Superman having problems to Batman.
Come on Juntai! Cap has a shield. It has a star.

Originally posted by darthgoober
When did Thanos have a hard time with Cap?

Originally posted by darthgoober
Cap was going blows with him in the IG series when he was fighting the heros without the help of the gauntlet, Cap's the one that bought time for Surfer to try his trick of rushing in and taking it. Thanos had the upper hand on the group, it was just funny that out of everyone, it was like Cap was giving him the most trouble.

Originally posted by Juntai
Cap was going blows with him in the IG series when he was fighting the heros without the help of the gauntlet, Cap's the one that bought time for Surfer to try his trick of rushing in and taking it. Thanos had the upper hand on the group, it was just funny that out of everyone, it was like Cap was giving him the most trouble.
Guessing that was after Wolverine stabbed him?

Originally posted by Juntai
Cap was going blows with him in the IG series when he was fighting the heros without the help of the gauntlet, Cap's the one that bought time for Surfer to try his trick of rushing in and taking it. Thanos had the upper hand on the group, it was just funny that out of everyone, it was like Cap was giving him the most trouble.
Wrong. This is their entire exchange.

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/1678/theinfinitygauntlet0440xn5.th.jpg

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/6484/theinfinitygauntlet0441fu6.th.jpg

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Originally posted by Juntai
Thanos' thousands of years of perfecting physical combat ends up in him reaching out and smacking people, ala Darkseid. It's called pimphanding.

Also he basically outpowers people instead of using skill.

But he has beat an entire army on h2h. Trained Gamora.
Dodged Surfer going at over light year, in a couple seconds. Beat down Surfer. Fought Thor in pissed mode, with Power Gem. Don't even say plot device, because he later showed the ability to do so to Odin later in the same book. Dodged every single attack, a enraged Champion has thrown.
I could bring up a couple instances.

i think what jun is saying is if he MISSED cap, he'd sure as hell miss kk who is likely orders of magnitude faster than cap.

i think that's what val is trying to say as well.

Originally posted by leonidas
i think what jun is saying is if he MISSED cap, he'd sure as hell miss kk who is likely orders of magnitude faster than cap.

i think that's what val is trying to say as well.
He missed Cap once, and Cap blocked once. That's hardly proof of low speed or skill. Right after that, he backhanded Cap without even looking.

Originally posted by Juntai
Cap was going blows with him in the IG series when he was fighting the heros without the help of the gauntlet, Cap's the one that bought time for Surfer to try his trick of rushing in and taking it. Thanos had the upper hand on the group, it was just funny that out of everyone, it was like Cap was giving him the most trouble. Cap hit him once, did nothing. Thanos wasn't even looking at him when this happened.
Plus, that whole book, it seemed like Thanos let everyone hit him. He didn't dodge (cept when Surfer went after the IG), he basically let everyone just hammer him.

Originally posted by Validus
Guessing that was after Wolverine stabbed him? Pis.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Wrong. This is their entire exchange.

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http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/7905/theinfinitygauntlet0444hu3.th.jpg What I said doesn't match what you just showed?
Cap was clearly the better combatant, Thanos' brute strength did him in, something that won't happen to KK who is lightyears beyond Cap in skill. Shit, he even had to hold Cap down so he couldn't get his footwork going. I still said Thanos' durability would be his greatest asset in this thread.

Originally posted by leonidas
i think what jun is saying is if he MISSED cap, he'd sure as hell miss kk who is likely orders of magnitude faster than cap.

i think that's what val is trying to say as well. Do we really want to see Cap's head get tooken off?
Plus he held his hand up in the air. What do you think Cap thinks is going to happen, when someone holds there fist in the air?

Do you have a defense for Spiderman kicking Thanos over too?
And Wolverine stabbing into him?
And the police arresting him?

Originally posted by Juntai
What I said doesn't match what you just showed?
Cap was clearly the better combatant, Thanos' brute strength did him in, something that won't happen to KK who is lightyears beyond Cap in skill. Shit, he even had to hold Cap down so he couldn't get his footwork going. I still said Thanos' durability would be his greatest asset in this thread.
I'd say those scans didn't go along with what you said, since these are some parts of your statement...
Originally posted by Juntai
Cap was going blows with him in the IG series when he was fighting the heros without the help of the gauntlet,
No he wasn't, he dodged once and blocked once. Then he landed a shot when Thanos wasn't looking, and Thanos backhanded him without looking also.
Originally posted by Juntai it was like Cap was giving him the most trouble.
Hardly. Thanos was obviously toying with him.

Originally posted by Juntai
Do you have a defense for Spiderman kicking Thanos over too?
And Wolverine stabbing into him?
And the police arresting him? Yup, pis.
Thanos has taken Surfer's blast, in the face, without moving.

But we are exspected to believe that with his already awsome duribility, and the Power Gem grants him potentialy unlimited duribility, that Spiderman can do anything? He was a 10 tonner back in those days.
That Wolverine can peirce his skin? He doesn't have the strength to do so.

The police, is a believable feat.

Originally posted by Juntai
Do you have a defense for Spiderman kicking Thanos over too?
And Wolverine stabbing into him?
And the police arresting him?
Absolutely.

PIS and the power of Squirrel Girl(who's obviously a high cosmic).

Originally posted by Validus
I've never seen KK get tired. KK is human technically but you'd think with all the stuff he's done, people would know he doesn't operate at their level. It's like everyone thinks he's Batman x2. The guy hit harder than PC top tiers and was fast enough to fight speedsters on par with Barry Allen. Doesn't sound like a mere human.

And to the other guy, none of your scans show any hand to hand skills so they're all moot. Ok so then he doesn't tire

Listen I know he isn't Human in terms of abilities shown but he is human overall. He ages he gets hungery he sleeps(Kinda)

Him outlasting someone who can not die and can amp himself with Cosmic Energies fora number of physical effects which would incluse endurance. PLus has a HF. I think it is a little hard to shallow that KK as good as he is is going to go weeks or even months straight through without any moments rest or getting slower.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Absolutely.

PIS and the power of Squirrel Girl(who's obviously a high cosmic). Actually, Squirrel girl was a different incident I'm pretty sure. The one where Thanos got arrested was some kids comic someone posted a while ago.

Originally posted by Juntai
Actually, Squirrel girl was a different incident I'm pretty sure. The one where Thanos got arrested was some kids comic someone posted a while ago.
Are you sure? I thought Squirrel Girl is the one who got him for the cops.

Originally posted by Juntai
Actually, Squirrel girl was a different incident I'm pretty sure. The one where Thanos got arrested was some kids comic someone posted a while ago. Are these supposed to be bad showings?

Originally posted by darthgoober
Are you sure? I thought Squirrel Girl is the one who got him for the cops. Pretty sure, but not 100% as I don't own either instance... the only scan of the Squirrel girl one I saw if I remember right was Thanos Koed and a Watcher going "The universe is saved thanks to you" .

Someone posted the comic where he got walked off in handcuffs, and it was not a Squirrel Girl title that I can remember.

The police thing was from the 80s. Same one where Thanos was flying around in his Thanoscopter.

Originally posted by bigbran
Are these supposed to be bad showings? One wasn't a mention from me, and the other was mentioned in jest, accented by the next to it.

Originally posted by Validus
The police thing was from the 80s. Same one where Thanos was flying around in his Thanoscopter. Thanoscopter!

I still maintain what I said earlier, this is by no means a mop on Thanos' part, Karate Kid throws around people in the cosmic league regularly, and with ease. The more powerful they are, the harder they're rocked. However, Thanos' vastly superior durability, stamina, and healing, and all will be great assets to him.

Originally posted by Juntai
I still maintain what I said earlier, this is by no means a mop on Thanos' part, Karate Kid throws around people in the cosmic league regularly, and with ease. The more powerful they are, the harder they're rocked. However, Thanos' vastly superior durability, stamina, and healing, and all will be great assets to him. Then how do you see the fight going?

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Ok. I checked it out, and it was in Spidey's super stories, or something like that(but you were right, it wasn't Squirell Girl)

Know what else I found that was funny though...

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i especially like the last scan where thanos ADMITS he can't lay a glove on her. the whole 'they weren't fighting for real' argument is also dismissed by warlock when he asked drax about his nose.

they may not have been trying to KILL each other, but they weren't 'holding back' either. thanos doesn't seem the type to hold back, in any event. though he DID have to resort to a trick to finally try and hit gamora.

all this goes to show that validus's interpretation may be the closest -- gamora's nerve punch (which has paralyzed thing) did NOTHING to thanos, but he couldn't touch her. kk's at LEAST in her class in speed.

Originally posted by leonidas
i especially like the last scan where thanos ADMITS he can't lay a glove on her. the whole 'they weren't fighting for real' argument is also dismissed by warlock when he asked drax about his nose.

they may not have been trying to KILL each other, but they weren't 'holding back' either. thanos doesn't seem the type to hold back, in any event. though he DID have to resort to a trick to finally try and hit gamora.

all this goes to show that validus's interpretation may be the closest -- gamora's nerve punch (which has paralyzed thing) did NOTHING to thanos, but he couldn't touch her. kk's at LEAST in her class in speed.
Yes but Thanos's defense, she also said that he made it tough to find an opening. That shows that he does have skills(though admittedly not at KK's level in that specific regard).

And he HAD to be holding back on some level, cause there's a good chance that if he really layed into her, she'd be dead.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Ok. I checked it out, and it was in Spidey's super stories, or something like that(but you were right, it wasn't Squirell Girl)

Know what else I found that was funny though...

http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/6684/darkseid8rrpf6.th.png LOL, what is he stealing hamburgers or something?

Originally posted by Juntai
LOL, what is he stealing hamburgers or something?
Actually, I think he's SERVING hamburgers(notice the hat).

Damn, she was rocking Thanos. lol.

Originally posted by Juntai
LOL, what is he stealing hamburgers or something?
Some hero (forgot who) was hallucinating and saw DS working at McDonalds.

Originally posted by leonidas
i especially like the last scan where thanos ADMITS he can't lay a glove on her. the whole 'they weren't fighting for real' argument is also dismissed by warlock when he asked drax about his nose.

they may not have been trying to KILL each other, but they weren't 'holding back' either. thanos doesn't seem the type to hold back, in any event. though he DID have to resort to a trick to finally try and hit gamora.

all this goes to show that validus's interpretation may be the closest -- gamora's nerve punch (which has paralyzed thing) did NOTHING to thanos, but he couldn't touch her. kk's at LEAST in her class in speed. What I said wasn't accurate?

Originally posted by Validus
Some hero (forgot who) was hallucinating and saw DS working at McDonalds. lmao.

Originally posted by Validus
Some hero (forgot who) was hallucinating and saw DS working at McDonalds.
Really? My bad, I thought it was some kooky Pre Crisis story where he actually ended up working there.

Originally posted by Juntai
What I said wasn't accurate?
Not as accurate as me.

Originally posted by Validus
Not as accurate as me. What exactly did you say?

Originally posted by leonidas
i especially like the last scan where thanos ADMITS he can't lay a glove on her. the whole 'they weren't fighting for real' argument is also dismissed by warlock when he asked drax about his nose.

they may not have been trying to KILL each other, but they weren't 'holding back' either. thanos doesn't seem the type to hold back, in any event. though he DID have to resort to a trick to finally try and hit gamora.

all this goes to show that validus's interpretation may be the closest -- gamora's nerve punch (which has paralyzed thing) did NOTHING to thanos, but he couldn't touch her. kk's at LEAST in her class in speed. Good scans.
Have you ever seen Thanos go all out? Obviously he was holding back.
He would have destroyed that whole place if he wasn't.

Plus, doesn't KK think about his move before he makes it? Does he use his agility?

I just found these too...


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Originally posted by Validus
Not as accurate as me. Pshaw.

Originally posted by darthgoober
I just found these too...


http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/4272/e80lshth3.th.jpg

http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/4057/darkseidvssantadb4.th.jpg Where are you finding these?

Originally posted by bigbran
Good scans.
Have you ever seen Thanos go all out? Obviously he was holding back.
He would have destroyed that whole place if he wasn't.

Plus, doesn't KK think about his move before he makes it? Does he use his agility?

thanks. and of course he was holding back to SOME extent -- he could have killed her by destroying the planet.

thing is, that's not an option in THIS fight where it is strictly h2h. i don't think ANYONE has said kk would beat him 1on1 in a regular battle. even using some of his powers he couldn't touch her. this kind of fight was chosen BECAUSE kk would at least have a chance.

oh, and fine juntai, i guess you were right too. damn, didn't realize you were so sensitive . . .

Originally posted by Juntai
Where are you finding these?
The comic book resorces forum.

Originally posted by leonidas
thanks. and of course he was holding back to SOME extent -- he could have killed her by destroying the planet.

thing is, that's not an option in THIS fight where it is strictly h2h. i don't think ANYONE has said kk would beat him 1on1 in a regular battle. even using some of his powers he couldn't touch her. this kind of fight was chosen BECAUSE kk would at least have a chance.

oh, and fine juntai, i guess you were right too. damn, didn't realize you were so sensitive . . .

lol. I was only kidding.

Originally posted by darthgoober
The comic book resorces forum. Ah, CBR.

Originally posted by Juntai


lol. I was only kidding.

nah, man, it's all right, really. we ALL have to get used to living in that planet sized shadow that val casts over the kmc.

Originally posted by leonidas
thanks. and of course he was holding back to SOME extent -- he could have killed her by destroying the planet.

thing is, that's not an option in THIS fight where it is strictly h2h. i don't think ANYONE has said kk would beat him 1on1 in a regular battle. even using some of his powers he couldn't touch her. this kind of fight was chosen BECAUSE kk would at least have a chance.

oh, and fine juntai, i guess you were right too. damn, didn't realize you were so sensitive . . .

Leonidas is right. I am tired of people using examples of Thanos taking on Thor and Champion. He didn't beat them in H2H (at least in the warrior madness and IG saga) he used his trickery, which I am assuming he can't use here.

He also used his powers when fighting Cap, or did people not notice the ground coming up and grabbing his feet.

I feel like I am taking crazy pills.