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Standard rules - no PIS, blood lust, fight to the KO (though with these combatants, I doubt it'd stop there), blah blah blah.

Who'd take it?

Venom

Red

red 6/10

omega red 8/10

Omega Red 9/10.Draining his life force.

Venom takes this

eddie dies instantly to life drain and soon after so does venom.

Omega Red

Venom

omega red

Venom

Red

what venom gunna do? venom would die from the life drain before he landed a hit

Venom ftw

venom2

Omega Red

venom, this is fun.

Originally posted by Big Sexy
venom, this is fun.
lol why venom?














OMEGA RED

Venom

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Venom
why?

Omega Red is weaker than Venom. And the special ability he got is to suck out life-force and some invulnerablity.
Venom on the other hand has shown to be much tougher than he is normally. He is famous of beating stronger opponents than himself.
In my opinion if Wolverine could stand up to him so can Venom. The Eddie Brock Venom.

Originally posted by Rewmac
Omega Red is weaker than Venom. And the special ability he got is to suck out life-force and some invulnerablity.
Venom on the other hand has shown to be much tougher than he is normally. He is famous of beating stronger opponents than himself.
In my opinion if Wolverine could stand up to him so can Venom. The Eddie Brock Venom.
you do realize Omega Red always holds back well fighting wolverine?

you do realize omega red is like 15 tonner or so.

you do realize he has superhuman reflex and agility.

you do realize he has tenticles that are more dnagers then doc ocks.

you doe realize he has superhuman durability

He has a healing factor

He a stilled fighter.


not to mention life drain would kill eddie brock and then venom

Originally posted by capt it up
you do realize Omega Red always holds back well fighting wolverine?

you do realize omega red is like 15 tonner or so.

you do realize he has superhuman reflex and agility.

you do realize he has tenticles that are more dnagers then doc ocks.

you doe realize he has superhuman durability

He has a healing factor

He a stilled fighter.


not to mention life drain would kill eddie brock and then venom Eddie is well over 60 tonner. And is Spider-man fast. And because of POTS you cant kill eddie and the symbiot separately.

Originally posted by Big Sexy
Eddie is well over 60 tonner. And is Spider-man fast. And because of POTS you cant kill eddie and the symbiot separately. Since when is he a 50 tonner.

Carnage is a 50 tonner and I thought Venom was always alot weaker than Carnage. I thought Venom wasa 25 tonner.

Originally posted by Newjak
Since when is he a 50 tonner.

Carnage is a 50 tonner and I thought Venom was always alot weaker than Carnage. I thought Venom wasa 25 tonner. Since he merged with the clone venom. Hes also thrown tanks and busses down blocks.

Originally posted by Newjak
Since when is he a 50 tonner.

Carnage is a 50 tonner and I thought Venom was always alot weaker than Carnage. I thought Venom wasa 25 tonner.

Even if that is true, that puts him a generous 10 tons above Omega red

Originally posted by Big Sexy
Since he merged with the clone venom. Really so its offical he is a 50 tonner or is this some he merged got a power boost but everyone says he doubled in strength?

Originally posted by Newjak
Since when is he a 50 tonner.

Carnage is a 50 tonner and I thought Venom was always alot weaker than Carnage. I thought Venom wasa 25 tonner.
Venom has beaten carnage numerous times.
Eddie has also absorbed carnage and the other symbiote.

Originally posted by capt it up
you do realize Omega Red always holds back well fighting wolverine?

you do realize omega red is like 15 tonner or so.

you do realize he has superhuman reflex and agility.

you do realize he has tenticles that are more dnagers then doc ocks.

you doe realize he has superhuman durability

He has a healing factor

He a stilled fighter.


not to mention life drain would kill eddie brock and then venom


Venom has a healing factor, he is about class 50, has superhuman agility, stamina and durability.

I put my vote on him because Omega Red isn't really that great fighter. Plus we got speed and strenght and some other tricks on Venom's side.

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Venom has beaten carnage numerous times.
Eddie has also absorbed carnage and the other symbiote.

Originally posted by Rewmac
Venom has a healing factor, he is about class 50, has superhuman agility, stamina and durability.

I put my vote on him because Omega Red isn't really that great fighter. Plus we got speed and strenght and some other tricks on Venom's side.

Originally posted by Newjak
Really so its offical he is a 50 tonner or is this some he merged got a power boost but everyone says he doubled in strength? If it says 25 tons a handbook than its all the more reason not to trust them. He beaten and outmatched Carnage before, hes lifted tanks and buses without effort, and hes held up an amusement park ferris wheel without any problems. And dont forget the fights with Juggs, the thing, the Hulk, and the Fantastic four. Hes well over 25 tons. And those feats were before the whole merging thing.

Originally posted by Big Sexy
If it says 25 tons a handbook than its all the more reason not to trust them. He beaten and outmatched Carnage before, hes lifted tanks and buses without effort, and hes held up an amusement park ferris wheel without any problems. And dont forget the fights with Juggs, the thing, the Hulk, and the Fantastic four. Hes well over 25 tons. And those feats were before the whole merging thing.

Indeed, Venom was well over class 25 WAY before he ever merged with Carnage or his clone.

Venom.

Venom.

Originally posted by Newjak
Really so its offical he is a 50 tonner or is this some he merged got a power boost but everyone says he doubled in strength?

25+25=50.

Pretty Simple.


Venom. 8/10.

Venom being 50 tons isnt gonna help him much against Red. Once wrapped in the coils and Death Factor is applied, Venom isnt getting out. Talk about Speed. Hes caught up to Nightcrawler(also with help of Death Spores). Omega Red has had Colossus in the tentacles and he was unable to break free. And Red didnt even apply the Death factor.

Also, Reds armor and healing factor easily makes up for Venoms strength edge. I dont know why people think superior strength makes much of a difference here when it clearly does not.

And Rewmac states that Red isnt that great of a fighter? Are you serious? Red is easily on Wolvies level of h2h combat. Is the most skilled fighter? No, but hes highly proficient in the skills he does know. Easily better than most.

Like is said before, Red for the win.

Now Omega Red vs Carnage would be a better fight.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Venom being 50 tons isnt gonna help him much against Red. Once wrapped in the coils and Death Factor is applied, Venom isnt getting out. Talk about Speed. Hes caught up to Nightcrawler(also with help of Death Spores). Omega Red has had Colossus in the tentacles and he was unable to break free. And Red didnt even apply the Death factor.

Also, Reds armor and healing factor easily makes up for Venoms strength edge. I dont know why people think superior strength makes much of a difference here when it clearly does not.

And Rewmac states that Red isnt that great of a fighter? Are you serious? Red is easily on Wolvies level of h2h combat. Is the most skilled fighter? No, but hes highly proficient in the skills he does know. Easily better than most.

Like is said before, Red for the win.

Now Omega Red vs Carnage would be a better fight.
Venom beats the shit out off Carnage almost everytime they meet.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Now Omega Red vs Carnage would be a better fight.
And why is that? Let me guess, because Carnage is stronger than both Spider-man and Venom combined, right?doh
And what stops Venom from using his tendrils to effect Omega's brains?

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Venom beats the shit out off Carnage almost everytime they meet.

And thats my point. Venom is more composed when fighting Carnage, yet hes clearly ouclassed.

Originally posted by Sam Z
And why is that? Let me guess, because Carnage is stronger than both Spider-man and Venom combined, right?doh
And what stops Venom from using his tendrils to effect Omega's brains?

No. Because Carnages life drain ability would even the odds. And how would Venoms tendrils get into Red brain? Red can be at a point where any contact with another life force automatically drains that lifes energies.

Originally posted by jrodslam
No. Because Carnages life drain ability would even the odds. And how would Venoms tendrils get into Red brain? Red can be at a point where any contact with another life force automatically drains that lifes energies.

Carnage life drain ability? Never heard before...
But if that's true, then Venom symbiote could do anything Carnage symbiote can so it wouldn't matter.

Originally posted by jrodslam
No. Because Carnages life drain ability would even the odds. And how would Venoms tendrils get into Red brain? Red can be at a point where any contact with another life force automatically drains that lifes energies.
Wasn't that in the cartoon???
BTW Carnage is a part of Venom now so it really doesn't matter.

Quick questions to the Omega Red supporters.

There's something I'm REALLY curious about. If Red is anywhere near as powerful as you make him out to be, how is he ever defeated at all?

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Quick questions to the Omega Red supporters.

There's something I'm REALLY curious about. If Red is anywhere near as powerful as you make him out to be, how is he ever defeated at all? Possibly the same reason Venom always looses.

Originally posted by Newjak
Possibly the same reason Venom always looses.

Weakness to loud sound?

Originally posted by Sam Z
Weakness to loud sound? Yes

Hard to say really.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Quick questions to the Omega Red supporters.

There's something I'm REALLY curious about. If Red is anywhere near as powerful as you make him out to be, how is he ever defeated at all?
by holding back and not usign his death factor. he a pritty honorable guy for a villain

Originally posted by capt it up
by holding back and not usign his death factor. he a pritty honorable guy for a villain

So...you're telling me, that even though he's a villian, HAS A DEATH FACTOR THAT HE CAN APPARENTLY USE IMMEDIATELY, a life-draining ability, and keeps getting defeated by everyone...he's honorable?

No. The Silver Samurai is honorable. Red is just losing. I want to know how he's losing if he's so powerful.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
So...you're telling me, that even though he's a villian, HAS A DEATH FACTOR THAT HE CAN APPARENTLY USE IMMEDIATELY, a life-draining ability, and keeps getting defeated by everyone...he's honorable?

No. The Silver Samurai is honorable. Red is just losing. I want to know how he's losing if he's so powerful.

dont bad guys usually lose in comics, no matter how powerful they are?

Originally posted by masterbruce
dont bad guys usually lose in comics, no matter how powerful they are?

It isn't a comic, it's a message board, we tend to not go by that rule.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
So...you're telling me, that even though he's a villian, HAS A DEATH FACTOR THAT HE CAN APPARENTLY USE IMMEDIATELY, a life-draining ability, and keeps getting defeated by everyone...he's honorable?

No. The Silver Samurai is honorable. Red is just losing. I want to know how he's losing if he's so powerful.
no he honorable. also when did he lose? msot of the time he fights he does not use his death factor because then he has no fun. He mention it once or twice. He fought wolverine with out using his death factor. most all of the time he fights with pout using it becuase he is honorable and likes to fight not beat opponets instantly by draining there life energy. How ever when ever his job is to kill the person he is to fight he just kills them instantly with death factor

Originally posted by capt it up
no he honorable. also when did he lose? msot of the time he fights he does not use his death factor because then he has no fun. He mention it once or twice. He fought wolverine with out using his death factor. most all of the time he fights with pout using it becuase he is honorable and likes to fight not beat opponets instantly by draining there life energy. How ever when ever his job is to kill the person he is to fight he just kills them instantly with death factor So then what happened with Sabertooth?

Originally posted by Big Sexy
So then what happened with Sabertooth?
? what you mean what happen?


are you talking about sabertooth abttle with omega red when omega red fought sabertooth with out using his death factor.

Originally posted by Sub_Mariner
It isn't a comic, it's a message board, we tend to not go by that rule.

i was responding to metalmanx asking why red gets defeated so often if he was so powerful

Originally posted by capt it up
? what you mean what happen?


are you talking about sabertooth abttle with omega red when omega red fought sabertooth with out using his death factor. Didn't he use it on Sabertooth? I remember Sabes being severely weakened but still pwned red.

Originally posted by Big Sexy
Didn't he use it on Sabertooth? I remember Sabes being severely weakened but still pwned red.
no he did not he used pheromones which would ko a person with out a healing factor may even kill them and weaken people who have healing factors. death factor when used would turn sabertooth to skinn and bones in a matter of a few seconds.

Can you show scans of Omega Red using his Death Factor on anyone of Superhuman-calibur?

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Can you show scans of Omega Red using his Death Factor on anyone of Superhuman-calibur?
don't have a scanner. im not at home so I do not ahve my comics with me. a death factor once killed logan for several hours he was just skinn and bones nuthing elese.

Originally posted by capt it up
don't have a scanner. im at home so I do not ahve my comics with me. a death factor once killed logan for several hours he was just skinn and bones nuthing elese.

I thought...you had your comics...at home...and that you were at school... Make up your mind, dude.

Lemme guess. Wolverine came back to life? You can't kill someone if they can regenerate. So all Red did was severely wound Wolverine.

And honestly? Things like that are what make Wolverine an annoying character AT TIMES.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
I thought...you had your comics...at home...and that you were at school... Make up your mind, dude.

Lemme guess. Wolverine came back to life? You can't kill someone if they can regenerate. So all Red did was severely wound Wolverine.

And honestly? Things like that are what make Wolverine an annoying character AT TIMES.
I ment to say im at school and my comics are at home

I guess nobody has an actual plan as to how either would win huh lol. I'd go with Venom just because he's faster.

Originally posted by PRAYERRUN
I guess nobody has an actual plan as to how either would win huh lol. I'd go with Venom just because he's faster.
I have a plan it call life drain venom goes down

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Venom has beaten carnage numerous times.
Eddie has also absorbed carnage and the other symbiote.

WHEN?? everybody keeps talking about this and I don't remember anything about it.

To answer questions about Red losing, its true what capt it up said. IF he loses, its because he doesnt even use the Death Factor. Against the X-Men, they fled away from Red the first couple of times. Against Iron Man, Stark was lucky he wasnt in the suit, but he was controlling it from afar. Red put a giant hole through the armor completely in the heart area. Had Strak been in it, he would have died. Hes used the Death Factor a few times against Wolvie and thats about it. Everyone else usually gets the Phermones only.

Like stated before Red usually toys with his oponents because he knows hes superior to them in certain areas.

Originally posted by jrodslam
To answer questions about Red losing, its true what capt it up said. IF he loses, its because he doesnt even use the Death Factor. Against the X-Men, they fled away from Red the first couple of times. Against Iron Man, Stark was lucky he wasnt in the suit, but he was controlling it from afar. Red put a giant hole through the armor completely in the heart area. Had Strak been in it, he would have died. Hes used the Death Factor a few times against Wolvie and thats about it. Everyone else usually gets the Phermones only.

Like stated before Red usually toys with his oponents because he knows hes superior to them in certain areas. What issue was did he fight iron man?

Originally posted by Big Sexy
What issue was did he fight iron man?

Iron Man #297

Originally posted by jrodslam
Iron Man #297 Thanks

Originally posted by jrodslam
Iron Man #297
about time you got on lol. you know a lot more about Omega Red then me.

Originally posted by capt it up
you do realize Omega Red always holds back well fighting wolverine?

you do realize omega red is like 15 tonner or so.

you do realize he has superhuman reflex and agility.

you do realize he has tenticles that are more dnagers then doc ocks.

you doe realize he has superhuman durability

He has a healing factor

He a stilled fighter.


not to mention life drain would kill eddie brock and then venom

Wait so Venom, being at least a 50 tonner (and would most likely be using this strength frequently in the fight with such things as flying cars and debris being thrown everywhere)

Who is fast enough in both speed and reflexes to catch bullets and even nearly disembowel Scarlet Spider (who's spider-sense isn't blocked by venom) with one swipe, and he also has camoflage

Whos tendrils would probably outnumber his tentacles and also have more strength behind them since just a small tendril is strong enough to strangle spider-man unconscious, and probably kill him if Venom wanted

Who also has a ridiculous amount of durability when it comes to physical attacks (need I list them?)

Also has a healing factor with the symbiote on (it saved brock's life when he was shot with a shotgun while not wearing the symbiote)

Also the symbiote itself has no soul, so it's questionable if a life-drain would do anything to it.