Satan - The Prince of Darkness
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Lord Urizen
I noticed that the majority of topics in the religion forum center around Christianity and its God. God gets either praised or bashed, and Jesus gets either idolized or made fun of.
Well what about SATAN ?
Why are thier SO FEW THREADS dedicated to him ?
This is the OFFICIAL SATAN THREAD !
Please feel free to worship, praise, bless, insult, curse, or critisize SATAN in any way you choose !
I think there needs to be a BALANCE. We have lots of Christians promoting God's word....we have lots of Athiests and Agnostics ignoring God's word, but we dont have ANYBODY speaking on behalf of the good ol' devil.
Hey...even demons deserve thier shine !
SO !!!! ALL YOU DIRTY LITTLE SINNERS !
ON YOUR KNEES ! droolio
BEND OVER !!! droolio
AND PRAY TO YOUR NEW LORD AND MASTER SATAN !
SO SPEAKS THE ANTI CHRIST !!!!
*I cant WAIT til JIA reads this !
Jim Reaper
blowupSATANblowup
Robtard
If I am going to believe in Satan, then I might as well believe in the Bogeyman living in my closet, the Easter Bunny bringing me colored eggs and the Tooth Fairy leaving me a dollar under my fluffy pillow.
JacopeX
Im gonna be mature with this thread and say, I disagree with Satan and his moronic, sinful, bad deed, religion. It makes the most chaos and as much destruction as Atheist do.
JacopeX
and theres already a thread about it!
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=399758&perpage=20&highlight=satan+forumid%3A80&pagenumber=1
Robtard
Originally posted by JacopeX
Im gonna be mature with this thread and say, I disagree with Satan and his moronic, sinful, bad deed, religion. It makes the most chaos and as much destruction as Atheist do.
Atheist cause chaos? Last time I checked people weren't killed over different views of atheism, wars weren't fought over atheism, people weren't persecuted over opposing atheistic beliefs... Religion/Belief in God(s) is a major cause of chaos and atrophy as much as it is order and restoration.
Lord Urizen
Originally posted by JacopeX
Im gonna be mature with this thread and say, I disagree with Satan and his moronic, sinful, bad deed, religion. It makes the most chaos and as much destruction as Atheist do.
Thank You Jacope X
This is the kind of ignorance I was hoping someone would display sooner or later...actually more people have been killed and tortured in the NAME OF GOD throughout History than in the name of Satan.
Kind of IRONIC no ?
BTW, religion causes more disunity, conflict, and bigotry than Athiesm ever can
AOR
Satan=Bad
I'm done
AOR
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
TNAME OF GOD throughout History than in the name of Satan.
Kind of IRONIC no ?
BTW, religion causes more disunity, conflict, and bigotry than Athiesm ever can
Or the other way around; more people have died for God. Either way you look at it, there will always be those extremist who call for blood to equate with faith.
Mišt
Originally posted by Robtard
If I am going to believe in Satan, then I might as well believe in the Bogeyman living in my closet, the Easter Bunny bringing me colored eggs and the Tooth Fairy leaving me a dollar under my fluffy pillow.
Wait you forgot God and Jesus in that list
If Satan is the Prince of Darkness, who is King?hmm
xmarksthespot
IIRC satan, by its etymology, simply means "adversary", a concept rather than an individual.
If you're referring to Lucifer. The story really puts god in a bad light rather than Lucifer. It's basically an allegory conveying that to defy authority or to strive for more than you are is bad. And IMO defiance of authority isn't always bad, and to strive to better oneself isn't either. If one even looks at the name Lucifer, it basically means "bearer of light", why name someone who's to be the embodiment of all things bad so contradictorily.
Lord Urizen
Originally posted by AOR
Or the other way around; more people have died for God. Either way you look at it, there will always be those extremist who call for blood to equate with faith.
Nope Buddy
Salem Witch Trials, Crusades, Spanish Inquisition, and near Native American extermination are examples of atrocities where innocent people were tortured and slaughtered in the name of God. And that's only from the Christian side...i didnt even mention the amounts of innocents that have been slaughtered in the name of Allah and Yahweh from Judaism (all supposed to be the same God)
The amounts of people that have been killed in the name of Satan is farr less than those who have been tortured and killed in the name of God.
AOR
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Nope Buddy
Salem Witch Trials, Crusades, Spanish Inquisition, and near Native American extermination are examples of atrocities where innocent people were tortured and slaughtered in the name of God. And that's only from the Christian side...i didnt even mention the amounts of innocents that have been slaughtered in the name of Allah and Yahweh from Judaism (all supposed to be the same God)
The amounts of people that have been killed in the name of Satan is farr less than those who have been tortured and killed in the name of God.
And yet the millions (if not thousands) killed during the time of Roman Persecution should not simply be allowed to go over looked. And besides (since you choose Catholicism) your only picking out the few areas of fault compared to the large areas of contribution. And for the sake of argument, Native American (unless you specifically are targeting South America) "extermination" did not occur in the North well enough to consider it amongst the Crusades and Spanish Inquisition. Secondly, still considering numbers, only 22 deaths were accounted for in the Salem Witch Trial (even though I am defending the puritan religion). And so the Crusades and the Spanish Inquisition (~700 years) can not account, or fully surmise thereof, 2,000+ years of religion.
xmarksthespot
Originally posted by AOR
And yet the millions (if not thousands) killed during the time of Roman Persecution should not simply be allowed to go over looked. And besides (since you choose Catholicism) your only picking out the few areas of fault compared to the large areas of contribution. And for the sake of argument, Native American (unless you specifically are targeting South America) "extermination" did not occur in the North well enough to consider it amongst the Crusades and Spanish Inquisition. Secondly, still considering numbers, only 22 deaths were accounted for in the Salem Witch Trial (even though I am defending the puritan religion). And so the Crusades and the Spanish Inquisition (~700 years) can not account, or fully surmise thereof, 2,000+ years of religion. Those are only large scale historical events, and religion has served as cause or justification for more acts than just those.
I made a thread for discussion regarding this like a year ago:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f80/t361233.html
Impediment
Originally posted by JacopeX
It makes the most chaos and as much destruction as Atheist do.
You really need to get a prescription pill to cure you of "Stupid Remark Making". Atheists are unfairly stereotyped by moronic staements such as yours. Name one instance of Atheism that sparked "Chaos and Destruction." If anything, Christianity has caused infinitely more chaos and destruction, all in the name of your God. Get your facts straight, you lunatic. The only difference between God and Adolf Hitler is that God is more proficient at genocide.
Imperial_Samura
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
IIRC satan, by its etymology, simply means "adversary", a concept rather than an individual.
If you're referring to Lucifer. The story really puts god in a bad light rather than Lucifer. It's basically an allegory conveying that to defy authority or to strive for more than you are is bad. And IMO defiance of authority isn't always bad, and to strive to better oneself isn't either. If one even looks at the name Lucifer, it basically means "bearer of light", why name someone who's to be the embodiment of all things bad so contradictorily.
Indeed, and that was a powerful concept in many early religions - accept you place in the scheme of things. Try and buck the order and you'll burn - which is a nice way of keeping the unhappy, starving masses in order, if they think it is a sin to try and improve their lot it will insure they don't rebel and cut of your head.
Still Lucifer is a fascinating character in literary terms. His portrayal in fiction is often more interesting and engaging then those of "pillars of virtue" - often as Lucifer is more human, and villains, intelligent villains, are often more explorative of things like the human condition.
There is a reason why Inferno is still the most read part of Dante's Divine Comedy.
Imperial_Samura
Originally posted by JacopeX
Im gonna be mature with this thread and say, I disagree with Satan and his moronic, sinful, bad deed, religion. It makes the most chaos and as much destruction as Atheist do.
Ummm.... first of all so called "Satanists" are no actually attributed to any real criminal activity.
While it isn't completely unknown for a criminal to scrawl so called "satanic" symbols at a crime scene more often then not these have no real historical or mythological grounding and are merely stupid teens thinking they do - over used symbols like pentacles and the like with no understanding of the symbolic relevance - they simply think, due to mass media, it represents something more.
Unless you have some sort of statistics to support the claim that Satanic religion is linked to chaos and destruction I suggest you refrain from making such statements, or linking them to Atheists. And of course if you do people will feel justified in listing in great deal the chaos and destruction that can be attributed to every major religion.
FeceMan
I think "I made a typo bif deal" is referring more to Satanic ritual abuse vs. Satanism.
JacopeX
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Thank You Jacope X
This is the kind of ignorance I was hoping someone would display sooner or later...actually more people have been killed and tortured in the NAME OF GOD throughout History than in the name of Satan.
Kind of IRONIC no ?
BTW, religion causes more disunity, conflict, and bigotry than Athiesm ever can
Wrong. Wrong, and Ultimately Wrong
1. Im not being ignorant at all
2. Ill prove that atheist have killed the most people throughout history
Originally posted by FeceMan
I think "I made a typo bif deal" is referring more to Satanic ritual abuse vs. Satanism. 1. Look down at youre key board
2. Do you see the "G" Next to the "F"?........Yes you do
Impediment
Originally posted by JacopeX
Ill prove that atheist have killed the most people throughout history
Oh, I can't wait to see this..................
Emo?
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
I noticed that the majority of topics in the religion forum center around Christianity and its God. God gets either praised or bashed, and Jesus gets either idolized or made fun of.
Well what about SATAN ?
Why are thier SO FEW THREADS dedicated to him ?
This is the OFFICIAL SATAN THREAD !
Please feel free to worship, praise, bless, insult, curse, or critisize SATAN in any way you choose !
I think there needs to be a BALANCE. We have lots of Christians promoting God's word....we have lots of Athiests and Agnostics ignoring God's word, but we dont have ANYBODY speaking on behalf of the good ol' devil.
Hey...even demons deserve thier shine !
SO !!!! ALL YOU DIRTY LITTLE SINNERS !
ON YOUR KNEES ! droolio
BEND OVER !!! droolio
AND PRAY TO YOUR NEW LORD AND MASTER SATAN !
SO SPEAKS THE ANTI CHRIST !!!!
*I cant WAIT til JIA reads this !
lol, if you think there should be a balance between someone who loves you(god) and someone who hates you(Satan) then you have serious problems, go to the psychiatrist my friend, they'l lfix you up and take you to a magical place where they will help you.
Emo?
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Thank You Jacope X
This is the kind of ignorance I was hoping someone would display sooner or later...actually more people have been killed and tortured in the NAME OF GOD throughout History than in the name of Satan.
Kind of IRONIC no ?
BTW, religion causes more disunity, conflict, and bigotry than Athiesm ever can
I'll think you'll find it's atheisms self-mindedness and foolishness that is causing the most rioting today in Britain.
Fishy
Originally posted by JacopeX
Wrong. Wrong, and Ultimately Wrong
1. Im not being ignorant at all
2. Ill prove that atheist have killed the most people throughout history
1. Look down at youre key board
2. Do you see the "G" Next to the "F"?........Yes you do
You see that ' key? Next to the ; and the enter (at least in most standard qwerty keyboards)... Stop complaining about errors like that and start proving things that you can not proof....
Impediment
Originally posted by Emo?
I'll think you'll find it's atheisms self-mindedness and foolishness that is causing the most rioting today in Britain.
Self mindedness and foolishness? That's the pot calling the kettle black, my disillusioned friend.
Emo?
Originally posted by Impediment
Self mindedness and foolishness? That's the pot calling the kettle black, my disillusioned friend.
Lol, and when did the bible last say "war and rioting is allowed"? or when did it not say "think of others before yourself"?
I don't think atheism has rules does it?
lord xyz
Originally posted by JacopeX
Ill prove that atheist have killed the most people throughout history
And when that happens, elephants shall jump over mount everest shouting "We are horny bitches.".
Emo?
Originally posted by lord xyz
And when that happens, elephants shall jump over mount everest shouting "We are horny bitches.".
Because atheists haven't existed for long enough to have killed many
Alliance
Originally posted by Emo?
Because atheists haven't existed for long enough to have killed many
Yeah ok? I don't recall atheists puttin Christian heads on pikes and parading them around town
debbiejo
Originally posted by Alliance
Yeah ok? I don't recall atheists puttin Christian heads on pikes and parading them around town
We're talking about the Christian church of England aren't we.......London bridge full of heads.
Emo?
Originally posted by Alliance
Yeah ok? I don't recall atheists puttin Christian heads on pikes and parading them around town
Ofcourse real christians don't do that, cause the bible says you shouldn't kill
Alliance
No, they are Christian all right.
Do you shave?
I assume you have no problem with the death penalty?
Impediment
Originally posted by Emo?
Ofcourse real christians don't do that, cause the bible says you shouldn't kill
500 years ago, "real Christians" tortured inncent people for days on end because they wanted to "test" their faith through inquisitioning. 400 years ago, "real Christians" burned innocent midwives at the stake because the "good Christian doctors" didnt want them to take their business away and so they accused them of Satanism and Witchcraft. Name me once instance when an Atheist had dome something deplorable?
JacopeX
260,000,000 were murdered over the last century alone under dictatorship that were hostile to any form of Religion. Thats almost as much as the American population.
Karl Marx has started such terrible massacre and killed millions of my ancestors and I think he is a such a fool. The deaths saddens me to this day. I am a Catholic and I know that my religion dosent kill today and I bet you they never will. I have no answer why they killed back then during their crusades.
"Those who talk so abominably as to deny their Maker will act abominably when it serves their turn."
-Charles H. Spurgeon-
Emo?
Originally posted by Alliance
No, they are Christian all right.
Do you shave?
I assume you have no problem with the death penalty?
Erm, you can't count people who do that as christians because the christians book says you shouldn't do that
unlike atheists, who don't have rules, so you CAN blame them for such things, cause if you abided by our rules, the world would be a better place.
The bible only tells us to do things that will make everyone happy.
Atheists don't HAVE a book, nor rules, so according to them they can practically do what they want (steal, kill etc)
Impediment
Originally posted by JacopeX
260,000,000 were murdered over the last century alone under dictatorship that were hostile to any form of Religion. Thats almost as much as the American population.
Karl Marx has started such terrible massacre and killed millions of my ancestors and I think he is a such a fool. The deaths saddens me to this day. I am a Catholic and I know that my religion dosent kill today and I bet you they never will. I have no answer why they killed back then during their crusades.
You just answered two things: Jack and Shit.
Emo?
Originally posted by Impediment
500 years ago, "real Christians" tortured inncent people for days on end because they wanted to "test" their faith through inquisitioning. 400 years ago, "real Christians" burned innocent midwives at the stake because the "good Christian doctors" didnt want them to take their business away and so they accused them of Satanism and Witchcraft. Name me once instance when an Atheist had dome something deplorable?
The bible doesn't allow it, so they were NOT real christians, the bible is the word of god so there you go.
JacopeX
Originally posted by JacopeX
"Those who talk so abominably as to deny their Maker will act abominably when it serves their turn."
-Charles H. Spurgeon-
Alliance
Originally posted by Emo?
The bible doesn't allow it, so they were NOT real christians, the bible is the word of god so there you go.
Do you shave? Wear polyester? Are you r candles properly arranged on your table? DO you wear contacts/glasses and apporach the altar of god?
Impediment
Originally posted by Emo?
Atheists don't HAVE a book, nor rules, so according to them they can practically do what they want (steal, kill etc)
You're right. Atheists don't, in fact, have a book of rules. We have something called Common Sense. "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" is one of the world's oldest cannons. Just because it's mentioned in the Bible, doesn't make it a "holy rule". It doesn't take a genius to realize that you have to follow laws in this world. Atheists don't go around killing and stealing at will, you lunatic.
Impediment
Originally posted by JacopeX
"Those who talk so abominably as to deny their Maker will act abominably when it serves their turn."
-Charles H. Spurgeon-
Why don't you stop repeating yourself and actually contribute something intelligent and with meaning to the topic?
Alliance
Originally posted by Impediment
You're right. Atheists don't, in fact, have a book of rules. We have something called Common Sense. "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" is one of the world's oldest cannons. Just because it's mentioned in the Bible, doesn't make it a "holy rule".
Not to mention atheist actually take responsibility for people's actions instead of being historically ignorant.
JacopeX
Originally posted by Impediment
Why don't you stop repeating yourself and actually contribute something intelligent and with meaning to the topic? Actually, Ive edited my post forgeting to put the quote.
And ive already said what I wanted to say so why should I continue if youre gonna disagree with what is right?
Impediment
Originally posted by Alliance
Not to mention atheist actually take responsibility for people's actions instead of being historically ignorant.
True. I take responsibility for my actions instead of blaming it on the will of an invisible guy in the sky or some dude in a lake of fire.
Impediment
Originally posted by JacopeX
Actually, Ive edited my post forgeting to put the quote.
And ive already said what I wanted to say so why should I continue if youre gonna disagree with what is right?
What, exactly, about your quotes is "right"? The reason you should continue is because you have yet to prove even one iota of your points. If you stop discussing now and walk away from the topic, you'll look like an uninformed moron. You need proof to substantiate your claims that you are right.
Alliance
Originally posted by JacopeX
260,000,000 were murdered over the last century alone under dictatorship that were hostile to any form of Religion. Thats almost as much as the American population.
Karl Marx has started such terrible massacre and killed millions of my ancestors and I think he is a such a fool. The deaths saddens me to this day. I am a Catholic and I know that my religion dosent kill today and I bet you they never will. I have no answer why they killed back then during their crusades.
Um? WHAT? Karl Marx founded Marxism and never killed anyone? Not to mention that statistic is probalby shit taken from some random website. Catholics kill people all the time and Catholicism, of likely all relgious is the most bloodstained.
Impediment
Originally posted by Alliance
Catholics kill people all the time and Catholicism, of likely all relgious is the most bloodstained.
That, and I don't know of very many other religions that will allow child molesters and pedophiles to be their representatives and spritual leaders. If any others at all.
JacopeX
Originally posted by Alliance
Um? WHAT? Karl Marx founded Marxism and never killed anyone? Not to mention that statistic is probalby shit taken from some random website. Catholics kill people all the time and Catholicism, of likely all relgious is the most bloodstained. It still shows that you have killed and murdered the most. I wouldnt really say Baron d'Holbach of starting it but if you say so.
lord xyz
Originally posted by debbiejo
We're talking about the Christian church of England aren't we.......London bridge full of heads.
WTF? Have you actually been to the london bridge?
Impediment
Originally posted by JacopeX
It still shows that you have killed and murdered the most.
The shit it does. What you're saying makes about as much sense as 2+2=10. Prove it, then you can talk all you want to.
lord xyz
Originally posted by Alliance
Not to mention atheist actually take responsibility for people's actions instead of being historically ignorant. Agreed, Atheists are the only people I know who admit when something other people of the same beliefs is lying or wrong. Atheists say other atheist are wrong all the time, that's pretty much what it's all about.
lord xyz
Originally posted by Impediment
The shit it does. What you're saying makes about as much sense as 2+2=10. Prove it, then you can talk all you want to. That's the things, catholics and other religions haven't proved.............anything. At all.
JacopeX
And I forgot Nazi's.....
lord xyz
Originally posted by JacopeX
And I forgot Nazi's..... Ah yes, those facsists who were against jews, gays and prostitutes. Wait a sec...
JacopeX
Originally posted by lord xyz
Ah yes, those facsists who were against jews, gays and prostitutes. Wait a sec... And catholics, many other religions, and also races.....
Alliance
Originally posted by JacopeX
It still shows that you have killed and murdered the most. I wouldnt really say Baron d'Holbach of starting it but if you say so.
Excuse me, Mr. I don't have facts, but I've never killed anyone.
Believe all the propoganda you want to, but don't claim its fact.
JacopeX
Originally posted by Alliance
Excuse me, Mr. I don't have facts, but I've never killed anyone.
Believe all the propoganda you want to, but don't claim its fact. Im not saying you, but atheist yes. I see youre an atheist but if you dont want me to be like that and say "You" than I should just say "atheist". Sorry about that.
lord xyz
Originally posted by JacopeX
And catholics, many other religions, and also races..... the way I heard the nazis WERE catholic.
lil bitchiness
In much of organised religion, Satan is the one which seems to encourage free thought....hmmm
lord xyz
Originally posted by JacopeX
Im not saying you, but atheist yes. I see youre an atheist but if you dont want me to be like that and say "You" than I should just say "atheist". Sorry about that. Incase you didn't know Jacope, I am atheist, and practically everyone I know is atheist. And I've never heard anyone kill anyone else. IN fact, most deaths are caused by religion. It's called a holy war.
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
In much of organised religion, Satan is the one which seems to encourage free thought....hmmm Interesting.
Personally, if I was any religion, I'd pick Satanism, chaos over order.
JacopeX
Satan promotes violence and all that is evil...you worship him, you basically worship murder, deciet, anger, hate, terrorism, the works...sounds radical, but its true because its all pure evil.
But I dont hate anyone, not even satan. But I disagree with satanisim.
Jim Reaper
http://www.churchofsatan.com/home.html
Impediment
Originally posted by Jim Reaper
http://www.churchofsatan.com/home.html
And...........................?
dark99
has anyone yet had the idea that it's people who kill people... and not some religion... the crusades are not Christianity's fault... they are the people of that time's fault... The crusades were also largly the pope's fault and last I checked the pope was a person and not a religion... the most deaths are caused by people being led blindly by other people... I say ignorance has caused the most deaths in this world... not Christianity or Atheism...
Alliance
Originally posted by dark99
has anyone yet had the idea that it's people who kill people... and not some religion... the crusades are not Christianity's fault... they are the people of that time's fault... The crusades were also largly the pope's fault and last I checked the pope was a person and not a religion... the most deaths are caused by people being led blindly by other people... I say ignorance has caused the most deaths in this world... not Christianity or Atheism...
To some extent I agree, but these deaths were Church sacntioned, and therin lies your disctiction.
Atheists don't have the ability to sanction anything as they are not an organization. However, churches do.
dark99
but the church is different from Christianity... in many cases I consider the church to be a separate religion all it's own...
Alliance
Well, I guess you can argue that. Very few people who have the existentalism and independace to seperate themselves from the Church still refer to themselves as Christian.
I use some Christian philosophies, but I am clearly not Christian.
However, I don't think you can deny that the vast majority of Chirstians associate themselves with a Christian Church.
Jim Reaper
Originally posted by Impediment
And...........................?
The satan thread needed a C.O.S. link. Just doing my part, no need to thank me.
FeceMan
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
In much of organised religion, Satan is the one which seems to encourage free thought....hmmm
'Cause God's all anti-that.
Imperial_Samura
Originally posted by AOR
And yet the millions (if not thousands) killed during the time of Roman Persecution should not simply be allowed to go over looked. And besides (since you choose Catholicism) your only picking out the few areas of fault compared to the large areas of contribution. And for the sake of argument, Native American (unless you specifically are targeting South America) "extermination" did not occur in the North well enough to consider it amongst the Crusades and Spanish Inquisition. Secondly, still considering numbers, only 22 deaths were accounted for in the Salem Witch Trial (even though I am defending the puritan religion). And so the Crusades and the Spanish Inquisition (~700 years) can not account, or fully surmise thereof, 2,000+ years of religion.
Um... as far as I know no reputable historian gives any credence to the claim "millions" were killed during the Christian persecutions. Exaggerations from later Christian authors (including Eusibius) are seen to be inaccurate as statistical evidence implies it would be impossible for "millions" to have died.
xmarksthespot
Originally posted by FeceMan
'Cause God's all anti-that. Pretty much.
FeceMan
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Pretty much.
*Sighs.*
I really need to move myself to a forum devoted to discussing religion rather than a movie forum filled with forumite undermensch trolls.
xmarksthespot
Yes. Maybe you should. Or you know, you could just try and be a bit less pompous.
FeceMan
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Yes. Maybe you should. Or you know, you could just try and be a bit less pompous.
I'll work on that if you work on not being a forumite undermensch troll.
Alliance
Originally posted by FeceMan
*Sighs.*
I really need to move myself to a forum devoted to discussing religion rather than a movie forum filled with forumite undermensch trolls.
Well, this is a movie forum, but since really all you consistantly provide is misguided and useless rhetoric, I don't really se us as being the focus point of the problem.
People are idiots. Get it? Shut up.
xmarksthespot
Originally posted by FeceMan
I'll work on that if you work on not being a forumite undermensch troll. If you throw in a washer/dryer then I think we have a deal.
I'd wager those of us of a less religious inclination often contribute more meaningful discourse than those who believe a debate entails nothing more than posting scripture and pious sanctimonious tut-tuts. But hey that's just one undermensch troll's opinion.
lord xyz
In other words chaos owns order.
Impediment
I wouldn't use the word "chaos", instead I'd use the word "unrestrained" or "uninhibited" by ancient rules of an imaginary deity. Freedom to live your life from dogmatic law.
Emo?
All i've seen you guys do is repeat yourself over and over again
Chaos(or unrestrained or uninhibited" by LAW/rules) leads to death, destruction and misery to all.
It means that you shouldn't put others before yourself, cause you don't have to, meaning you could kill anyone you want because your the only person who matters to yourself.
If everybody was christian, there would be no war, and there would be less destruction or misery.
But people would still fall out over pathetic reasons if everyone wasn't christian, (Suspicion turns into meaningless war *cough* Blair *cough*)
so its everyone BUT christianitys fault for wars.
Impediment
That has nothing to do with Atheism. The Satanist lives his life by these standards. IMO, there's nothing wrong with self-preservation and self-gratification. Just because an atheist doesnt worship a deity, or have an actual written code of rules/morals, doesnt mean we are anarchic, chaotic heathens. I know several Satanists who are some of the most caring and descent people I know.
Impediment
Originally posted by Emo?
If everybody was christian, there would be no war, and there would be less destruction or misery.
That is one of the most mind bogglingly moronic things I have ever read. Seriously, just................just stop posting before you hurt yourself.
Emo?
Originally posted by Impediment
That has nothing to do with Atheism. The Satanist lives his life by these standards. IMO, there's nothing wrong with self-preservation and self-gratification. Just because an atheist doesnt worship a deity, or have an actual written code of rules/morals, doesnt mean we are anarchic, chaotic heathens. I know several Satanists who are some of the most caring and descent people I know.
Atheists are exactly the same, they just don't worship a deity.
There are christians i know, like myself, who don't go around murdering people because of there religion, so you can't say ALL religion kills more that atheism.
It wasn't a christian who sent troops over to attack iraq you know.
Impediment
Originally posted by Emo?
Atheists are exactly the same, they just don't worship a deity.
"The same"? Care to elaborate, professor?
Originally posted by Emo?
There are christians i know, like myself, who don't go around murdering people because of there religion, so you can't say ALL religion kills more that atheism.
Name ONE instance of Atheism where someone got hurt and/or murdered. It's that kind of stereotyping that puts more problems on the table than solutions. More people have been murdered in the name of god than other cause in history.
Originally posted by Emo?
It wasn't a christian who sent troops over to attack iraq you know.
Correct me if I'm wrong, Einstein, but isn't G. Dubya a Christian?
Alliance
Originally posted by Emo?
Atheists are exactly the same, they just don't worship a deity.
There are christians i know, like myself, who don't go around murdering people because of there religion, so you can't say ALL religion kills more that atheism.
It wasn't a christian who sent troops over to attack iraq you know.
This is were your arguments break down.
Satanism and Atheism are totally different. One involves the worhsip of a god, has a church, a bible, historical religious figures who founded it, etc.
Atheism does not.
Also, we never said you killed people, but Chirstians have no problem killing people. If Christians are 75% of the population, they likely commit 75% of the crimes. However, I think its likey that the commit more than 75% of the crimes in the US, including homocides. Christians have no problem stealing, murdering, etc, and just saying "they're not true Chritsians" is not a valid arguement to combat that claim.
They are Christians because they both define themseleves as suchs and follow the main tenants of Christianity.
Storm
Originally posted by JacopeX
Satan promotes violence and all that is evil...you worship him, you basically worship murder, deciet, anger, hate, terrorism, the works...sounds radical, but its true because its all pure evil.
But I dont hate anyone, not even satan. But I disagree with satanisim.
The majority among the satanists does not believe in the existence of Satan as a deity. Satan serves more as a mascot of individual liberty and freedom from false morality than as a deity. Shared by most religious Satanists is the idea that Christianity is flawed, that morality is not absolute, and that man is purely responsible for his own actions.
lord xyz
Originally posted by Impediment
I wouldn't use the word "chaos", instead I'd use the word "unrestrained" or "uninhibited" by ancient rules of an imaginary deity. Freedom to live your life from dogmatic law. Those words are a lot better. Thanks Imp.
To Emo?, you should go here: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f80/t425990.html
FeceMan
Oh, dear. It seems that people are mistaking me for JIA.
My avatar is the one with the glowy green demon. JIA's signature is the one with the deformed Chick panel.
What does Satan represent?
Gluttony; uninhibited self-indulgence; hedonism of the worst kind.
Pride; arrogance.
Deceit; half-truths; false beliefs guised as truth.
Selfishness; self-centered thoughts and actions.
Schadenfreude.
Bondage; slavery; addiction.
Temptation and accusation.
Destruction and ruin; pleasure turned to pain.
lord xyz
Impediment are you a Satanist? If so, is it because of that test you took?
Impediment
Originally posted by lord xyz
Impediment are you a Satanist? If so, is it because of that test you took?
No, I'm not a Satanist. I'm a very happy Atheist.
Originally posted by FeceMan
Satan represents exactly what I wrote.
Prove it.
Originally posted by FeceMan
What you have done to Satan is to make him appear as good; you dressed him up in nice words.
By your Christian standards, of course. Satan is portrayed as a deceiver/liar/monster/etc in the Holy Bible, yet all he did to get cast out of Heaven was to think for himself and show interest in something than "Almighty God".
redcaped
I consider myself a friend. I like them more than people and I also find them less guilty.
Impediment
Originally posted by redcaped
I consider myself a friend. I like them more than people and I also find them less guilty.
Do what?
redcaped
Originally posted by Impediment
Do what?
In all aspects. People have needs and use them competitive instead of being cooperative to each other...GUILTY, not the fallen angels.
Alliance
Originally posted by FeceMan
Oh, dear. It seems that people are mistaking me for JIA.
Honestly, sometimes you are just as aggravating and mistaken.
usagi_yojimbo
Satan and all those who choose to follow him are to be pitied. I pray that God give him and his followers much fulfillment in this life, because I know that I will not be seeing them in the next.
Alliance
Thats because there is not a next?
lord xyz
Originally posted by Impediment
No, I'm not a Satanist. I'm a very happy Atheist. Great, mee to.
Emo?
Originally posted by Impediment
Name ONE instance of Atheism where someone got hurt and/or murdered. It's that kind of stereotyping that puts more problems on the table than solutions. More people have been murdered in the name of god than other cause in history.
1. I've heard of loadsa murders or rapes on the news by people who are atheist. There have been alot of murders by extremist muslims, but that's because there book says they have to.
2. And christians SHOULD be stereotyped by their book, because the book their religion is actually based on, the god they actually believe in, says they shouldn't kill or rape etc.
3. Obviously in the name of god
because atheists haven't lasted long enough.
And about G. Dubya, christians don't judge, it also says don't kill.
Originally posted by Alliance
This is were your arguments break down.
Satanism and Atheism are totally different. One involves the worhsip of a god, has a church, a bible, historical religious figures who founded it, etc.
Atheism does not.
Also, we never said you killed people, but Chirstians have no problem killing people. If Christians are 75% of the population, they likely commit 75% of the crimes. However, I think its likey that the commit more than 75% of the crimes in the US, including homocides. Christians have no problem stealing, murdering, etc, and just saying "they're not true Chritsians" is not a valid arguement to combat that claim.
They are Christians because they both define themseleves as suchs and follow the main tenants of Christianity.
So wait, your not making sense, so the thing that makes atheists different is the fact they don't have a bible. But christians do have a bible that actually gives them rules, but the people who don't even go by them are STILL christian? I thought other religions or atheists don't go by the rules?
RocasAtoll
Originally posted by Emo?
1. I've heard of loadsa murders or rapes on the news by people who are atheist. There have been alot of murders by extremist muslims, but that's because there book says they have to.
2. And christians SHOULD be stereotyped by their book, because the book their religion is actually based on, the god they actually believe in, says they shouldn't kill or rape etc.
3. Obviously in the name of god
because atheists haven't lasted long enough.
And about G. Dubya, christians don't judge, it also says don't kill.
So wait, your not making sense, so the thing that makes atheists different is the fact they don't have a bible. But christians do have a bible that actually gives them rules, but the people who don't even go by them are STILL christian? I thought other religions or atheists don't go by the rules?
1. You really don't read, do you? He says a case where AETHEISM, as in a group of atheists, kills people because they aren't Atheists. Christians murder in the name of God too.
2. Actually, the Bible condones murder; read the old testament
3. Atheists have been around ever since man thought up a God.
Christians judge. Haven't you ever heard of the Inquisitions?
Shut up. You really don't have a clue what you're talking about.
Emo?
Originally posted by RocasAtoll
1. You really don't read, do you? He says a case where AETHEISM, as in a group of atheists, kills people because they aren't Atheists. Christians murder in the name of God too.
2. Actually, the Bible condones murder; read the old testament
3. Atheists have been around ever since man thought up a God.
Christians judge. Haven't you ever heard of the Inquisitions?
Shut up. You really don't have a clue what you're talking about.
1. Lol, it's still murder, infact, killing for something less then that would be worse, because nothing even says you have to.
2. And your telling ME to shut up? you clearly don't know that christians go by the NEW testament, not the old. Jews go by the old testament.
3. O-K..... I don't know who made up the second religion, maybe it was atheism
worshipping a god that doesn't exist
RocasAtoll
Originally posted by Emo?
1. Lol, it's still murder, infact, killing for something less then that would be worse, because nothing even says you have to.
2. And your telling ME to shut up? you clearly don't know that christians go by the NEW testament, not the old. Jews go by the old testament.
3. O-K..... I don't know who made up the second religion, maybe it was atheism
worshipping a god that doesn't exist
1. Infact, you have no point!
2. So you ignore your forefathers? Nice.
3. Shut up. You really don't know anyone with a brain.
Alliance
Originally posted by Emo?
1. Lol, it's still murder, infact, killing for something less then that would be worse, because nothing even says you have to.
No. You call people an idiot for not believing in your god, but get offended when people say they don't believe in yours.
Common sense says you shouldn't murder. Get it? Obviously "God's Rules" haven't stopped anyone.
If the Bible said nothing about murder would yo do it? NO.
Originally posted by Emo?
2. And your telling ME to shut up? you clearly don't know that christians go by the NEW testament, not the old. Jews go by the old testament.
Yeah, then 1. Why is the OT in the Bible? 2. Christians use the OT ALL the time.
3Originally posted by Emo?
1. O-K..... I don't know who made up the second religion, maybe it was atheism
worshipping a god that doesn't exist
Atheists worship no god.
Why does your god exist and not someone elses?
Basically, if you believe in one god, you're mostly atheist too. I just believe in one less god than you do.
lord xyz
Emo? officially the dumbest member. And after Whob, sithsaber408, JM and JIA I really didn't think anyone could beat them all flawelessly.
Emo?
Originally posted by Alliance
No. You call people an idiot for not believing in your god, but get offended when people say they don't believe in yours.
Common sense says you shouldn't murder. Get it? Obviously "God's Rules" haven't stopped anyone.
If the Bible said nothing about murder would yo do it? NO.
Yeah, then 1. Why is the OT in the Bible? 2. Christians use the OT ALL the time.
3
Atheists worship no god.
Why does your god exist and not someone elses?
Basically, if you believe in one god, you're mostly atheist too. I just believe in one less god than you do.
Seesh, the people who used to talk on here actually took jokes, but you guys are boring!
Nobody is an idiot for not believing in my god, they are just lost
And it's only common sense to you not to murder because law says so '-_-
1. The OT is in the bible because some of the laws haven't changed, but some have.
2. hence above
3.Themselves, simply, but not as a god, the other threwad is this one
Alliance
Originally posted by lord xyz
Emo? officially the dumbest member. And after Whob, sithsaber408, JM and JIA I really didn't think anyone could beat them all flawelessly.
Oh...but sithsaber is an uber-Star Wars fan so he can stay.
Alliance
Originally posted by Emo?
Seesh, the people who used to talk on here actually took jokes, but you guys are boring!
Incidentally, the number of people with unbased opinons has gone up in this forum, hence our response.
I'm not clear on this. Why are people lost if they don't believe in your god? Are you also lost because you don't believe in thiers?
lord xyz
Originally posted by Emo?
Seesh, the people who used to talk on here actually took jokes, but you guys are boring!
Nobody is an idiot for not believing in my god, they are just lost
No, they're idiots for believing in something as rediculous as magic.
Originally posted by Emo?
And it's only common sense to you not to murder because law says so '-_- Law also says Prostitution is a nono. But...
lord xyz
Originally posted by Alliance
Oh...but sithsaber is an uber-Star Wars fan so he can stay. But he's a fascist.
Alliance
So? A little facism is good for society.
I'm a little facist too
, then again, all governments have their plusses and minuses.
Impediment
Emo? is such an inspiration for the ways I will never ever choose to be.
lord xyz
Originally posted by Alliance
So? A little facism is good for society.
I'm a little facist too
, then again, all governments have their plusses and minuses. sithsaber is also a creationist.
Alliance
Yes, I know that side of him unfortunately and that is what I originally thought you were referring to.
Though I find it ironic that there is a correlation between conservatives and people who identify themselves with the darkside in their profiles....which is both unfortunate and ironic.
lord xyz
Originally posted by Alliance
Yes, I know that side of him unfortunately and that is what I originally thought you were referring to.
Though I find it ironic that there is a correlation between conservatives and people who identify themselves with the darkside in their profiles....which is both unfortunate and ironic.
I've also noticed that a lot of fundamentalist members have titles and locations that would suggest they are as dumb as GWB.
debbiejo
Damn..Satan isn't real.......Think about this! WE ARE REAL AND WE can make good or not...........nothing makes us.........Satanism is just a view of self ..........IS THAT EVIL?
Jim Reaper
I was looking at that "church of satan site," and noticed that you have to pay $200 bucks for a membership... Apparently you have to pay your way into hell as well. Kind of like selling anti-indulgences. You get an awesome membership card for that $200 though...
Impediment
Originally posted by Jim Reaper
I was looking at that "church of satan site," and noticed that you have to pay $200 bucks for a membership... Apparently you have to pay your way into hell as well. Kind of like selling anti-indulgences. You get an awesome membership card for that $200 though...
Even Satan has his foot in Organized Religion these days, huh? Anton LaVey is to blame for that. IMO, he was just in it for the shock value, the notoriety, and the money. If he wanted to be a real visionary and a spiritual leader, he would have just continued his lessons in print form. Or not have charged an admission fee.
Imperial_Samura
Originally posted by JacopeX
260,000,000 were murdered over the last century alone under dictatorship that were hostile to any form of Religion. Thats almost as much as the American population.
Karl Marx has started such terrible massacre and killed millions of my ancestors and I think he is a such a fool. The deaths saddens me to this day. I am a Catholic and I know that my religion dosent kill today and I bet you they never will. I have no answer why they killed back then during their crusades.
That's a big number you have there, and I'm not quite sure where you got it. And it's nice of you to blame Karl Marx, a man who had no responsibility for the atrocities committed by those who warped his theories. Theoretically I can blame Jesus yes for the Crusades and Inquisition and the actions of Christian colonialism (you know, Africa, North America, South America etc.)
But anyway - religion from the beginning of time? There are the various things Christians have done. Then there are the Muslim actions (the events in the India region that may have cost the lives of 10 million up to 100 million people) and so on. Oh, and if you actually believe the Bible the Christians and Jews are a party to murder on a mass scale. What with the children of Egypt and the world that got drowned.
Religion is about as far from purity as a person can get in history.
Silly, silly boy. Girl. Whatever. First there is advocacy of violence on a massive scale in the Bible.
Second the only thing a person needs to be in order to qualify as Christian is a believer that Jesus is the Christ. Everything else is irrelevant. Got Jesus? Your Christian. Christians have killed. You argument? Kaput.
Oh really?
So basically.... everyone who was a political risk to them? By Jove! Political groups, religious groups, and everything in between. Yes, that damns Atheists for sure (you do realise there were plenty of Nazis who still had faith don't you? And that religion was still a big part of Nazi doctrine yes?)
Ummm - idiot? You do realise that not believing in God doesn't actually mean one believes in the Devil? Not believing in God means we also don't believe in the Devil. Or anything else of the kind for that matter. We believe, get this, in humanity! In the fact we are responsible for our own actions. That people are good or evil, not some divine scape goat.
Down with that? It shows the fundamental ignorance of your mind set to operate under the view "Don't have God.... they worship Satan!" Idiocy to the highest degree. But if I did believe in Satan it would be like lil' b said - Satan seems to be far more a symbol of open mindedness and progress then "Don't ask questions, just believe" God.
Oh, and another thing that people forget - there is a difference between Satanists and "Devil Worshippers" - a profound difference in outlook.
What do they put in the water over there... stupid pills or something?
First of all - zero statistical data that atheism leads to amorality, lawlessness or the predisposition to nihilistic anarchy. In fact the opposite. Atheists are just as capable of charitable action.
Second - Christianity has never been able to keep its own house in order. As all those brutally punished "heretics" will attest.
Third - Atheism does not lead to "putting oneself first"
Fourth - Your argument is crap and based upon zero statistical, sociological, psychological or anthropological data. Can you say... baseless?
Um... so Bush is an Atheist is he? The Republicans are Atheists are they?
JesusIsAlive
I Exalt Thee
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Pete Sanchez Jr.
For Thou, O Lord , art high above all the earth
Thou art exalted far above all gods
For Thou, O Lord , art high above all the earth
Thou art exalted far above all gods
I exalt Thee, I exalt Thee
I exalt Thee, O Lord
I exalt Thee, I exalt Thee
I exalt Thee, O Lord
Imperial_Samura
Perception. Interpretation. As I said above there is a profound and fundamental difference between a Satanist and the stereotypical "devil worshipper."
In the case of the latter you definition is justified as they worship the Christianised image of the devil. They get their kick out of the whole "evil" concept and take Satan as the whole hellfire and torture image put forward by the Catholic Church. Satanists are different again and rarely accept that image of Satan. Impediment listing of the values they hold is correct, similar to lil Bitchiness' mention of how Satan seems to represent free will far more.
The two are not the same - what you wrote is one view, Satanists hold another (this isn't even getting into the groups who think Satan is actually a messiah like figure and Jesus the two faced source of evil.)
First of - crappy lier. News sections don't say "today murder was committed by an Atheist" unless that murder was the by product of Atheistic belief. And if I'm not mistaken there was a case not long ago about a Christian couple who had kept their daughter locked up... and another about a pair who had boiled their babies to death... and...
But stone people and keep slaves and... oh wait, the contradiction between old t and new t. And funny how Christians have fought and continue to fight. Clearly your book isn't as clear as you'd like.
Makes no sense.
Definition - A Christian is any person who believes Jesus is the Christ. Bush believes that, he sent people to war. Christians can be soldiers of police or judges or anything else. Get over you rose tinted view of the world, it is so fantastical is isn't funny.
debbiejo
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
I Exalt Thee
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Pete Sanchez Jr.
For Thou, O Lord , art high above all the earth
Thou art exalted far above all gods
For Thou, O Lord , art high above all the earth
Thou art exalted far above all gods
I exalt Thee, I exalt Thee
I exalt Thee, O Lord
I exalt Thee, I exalt Thee
I exalt Thee, O Lord
I smote thee!
Council#13
Satan's in Hell for a very good reason
debbiejo
According to the bible satans NOT in hell.
FeceMan
Originally posted by Impediment
Prove it.
Nuurh, prove your beliefs.
He desired to usurp Yahweh's position.
Originally posted by Alliance
Honestly, sometimes you are just as aggravating and mistaken.
QQ
Welcome to the religion forums; may I introduce you to our most prominent members?
lord xyz
Originally posted by FeceMan
Nuurh, prove your beliefs. Impediment is an atheist, he has no beliefs.
Originally posted by FeceMan
He desired to usurp Yahweh's position. Prove it.
FeceMan
Originally posted by lord xyz
Impediment is an atheist, he has no beliefs.
Aside from that God does not exist. I was talking about what he said about Satan.
Oh, wait, that doesn't count, does it?
Lord Urizen
YOU WILL ALL BOW DOWN TO YOUR LORD AND MASTER SATAN !
THE WAR APPROACHES ! ARMAGGEDON COMES SOON !
YOU MUST CHOOSE A SIDE !
SATAN PROMISES YOU 72 VIRGINS AND AN ETERNITY OF ORGASMIC BLISSSSS droolio !!!!!!!!
GOD PROMISES YOU NOTHING ! ONCE YOU ARE FINISHED FIGHTING FOR HIM, HE WILL SEND YOU TO HELL FOR SLAUGHTERING YOUR BRETHREN ! WHAT'S THE POINT ?
HEAVEN IS OVER RATED ANY WAY....IT'S LIKE AN ETERNAL LIBRARY.....
CHOOSE THE DARK LORD AND INHERIT A WASTELAND OF FLAMES AND MISERY !
FULFILL ALL SADISTIC DESIRES !
Jim Reaper
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
YOU WILL ALL BOW DOWN TO YOUR LORD AND MASTER SATAN !
THE WAR APPROACHES ! ARMAGGEDON COMES SOON !
YOU MUST CHOOSE A SIDE !
SATAN PROMISES YOU 72 VIRGINS AND AN ETERNITY OF ORGASMIC BLISSSSS droolio !!!!!!!!
GOD PROMISES YOU NOTHING ! ONCE YOU ARE FINISHED FIGHTING FOR HIM, HE WILL SEND YOU TO HELL FOR SLAUGHTERING YOUR BRETHREN ! WHAT'S THE POINT ?
HEAVEN IS OVER RATED ANY WAY....IT'S LIKE AN ETERNAL LIBRARY.....
CHOOSE THE DARK LORD AND INHERIT A WASTELAND OF FLAMES AND MISERY !
FULFILL ALL SADISTIC DESIRES !
You forgot all the heavy metal you can handle.
Imperial_Samura
Originally posted by FeceMan
He desired to usurp Yahweh's position.
And... that alone makes him evil? I always questioned that as justification for his evil standard.
To be honest I think humanity doesn't deserve to be under his yoke and should have the chance to face God as an equal and usurp him if we wish. After all - made in his image which should have the same potential.
Really, reminds me of those dictators who demonise people who try to resist them. Reminds me of how Napoleon dealt with Snowball in Animal Farm. And what the Egyptians did to Seth towards the end of the New Kingdom (Seth having once only represented strength, later coming to represent evil. Which is rather unfair.)
Interpretation once again. After all the Bible is also the place that people find the reason to believe that people are fundamentally bad.
Emo?
Well, let's just put it like this shall we? Not all atheists are good people either, i know many of them who are cruel to people for absolutly no reason, ok, some of them aren't, but i know very few mean christians.
Christians:
God says no killing
Government says no killing
(according to you) self says no killing
Atheists:
Government says no killing
self says no killing
Christians have more barriers. If you make a promise to three people, especially if you actually have "your own morales which you just seem to know", breaking it for all 3 is worse than breaking a promise to only 2 people.
Originally posted by lord xyz
Impediment is an atheist, he has no beliefs.
I thought he believes a god doesn't exist
lord xyz
Originally posted by Emo?
Well, let's just put it like this shall we? Not all atheists are good people either, i know many of them who are cruel to people for absolutly no reason, ok, some of them aren't, but i know very few mean christians. Ha, if by cruel for no reason you mean having a luagh eith a bunch of friends then you are right. You say you know very few cruel christians, I'd like to hear your definition of cruel. If you mean "Not what the Bible says you should do," IE against the 10 commandments, then your statement is comepletly invalid.
Originally posted by Emo?
Christians:
God says no killing
Government says no killing
(according to you) self says no killing
Atheists:
Government says no killing
self says no killing
Christians have more barriers. If you make a promise to three people, especially if you actually have "your own morales which you just seem to know", breaking it for all 3 is worse than breaking a promise to only 2 people. This is not only bollocks, but retarded.
Christians: I'm afraid to think for myself, so I'll do what the Bible says whether other people disagree or not. So I won't kill this person.
Atheists: I'm my own man, I do what I want, when I want, where I want, but seeing as most of society will disagree with me, and it's unfair to the other person, I choose not to kill this person.
Originally posted by Emo?
I thought he believes a god doesn't exist
That's the denial of a belief, it doesn't count. Because other-wise you could say everyone is religious because they don't believe in magic, faries or goblins.
Impediment
I say, if you're gonna buy the God/devil/angel/demon package, then you might as well believe in goblins, leprechauns, unicorns, satyrs, dragons, fairies, etc.
lord xyz
Originally posted by Impediment
I say, if you're gonna buy the God/devil/angel/demon package, then you might as well believe in goblins, leprechauns, unicorns, satyrs, dragons, fairies, etc. That's what I say.
God = made up wizard
FeceMan
Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
And... that alone makes him evil? I always questioned that as justification for his evil standard.
Don't forget the delighting in destruction, chaos, ruin, death, and torment of others.
Lord Urizen
Originally posted by FeceMan
Don't forget the delighting in destruction, chaos, ruin, death, and torment of others.
That is very true
But God is no better....
Destruction- the cities of sodom and gomorrha
Chaos- the Great Flood
Ruin- banishment of Adam and Eve, fall of mankind
Death- the plagues during the time of Moses
Torment of others- God created Hell for those who do not worship him
JacopeX
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
YOU WILL ALL BOW DOWN TO YOUR LORD AND MASTER SATAN !
THE WAR APPROACHES ! ARMAGGEDON COMES SOON !
YOU MUST CHOOSE A SIDE !
SATAN PROMISES YOU 72 VIRGINS AND AN ETERNITY OF ORGASMIC BLISSSSS droolio !!!!!!!!
GOD PROMISES YOU NOTHING ! ONCE YOU ARE FINISHED FIGHTING FOR HIM, HE WILL SEND YOU TO HELL FOR SLAUGHTERING YOUR BRETHREN ! WHAT'S THE POINT ?
HEAVEN IS OVER RATED ANY WAY....IT'S LIKE AN ETERNAL LIBRARY.....
CHOOSE THE DARK LORD AND INHERIT A WASTELAND OF FLAMES AND MISERY !
FULFILL ALL SADISTIC DESIRES ! Just a curiosity......How old are you?
Shalimar_fox
All i know i gotta make it to heaven
JacopeX
Originally posted by Shalimar_fox
All i know i gotta make it to heaven Where god's children and we must not sin for we should do the right besides "Doing what youre soul tell you to." Its pretty much makes perfect sence doing the right thing than being the one thats wrong.
Impediment
Originally posted by JacopeX
Where god's children and we must not sin for we should do the right besides "Doing what youre soul tell you to." Its pretty much makes perfect sence doing the right thing than being the one thats wrong.
Apparently, the Bible needs to be proofread.
Imperial_Samura
Originally posted by FeceMan
Don't forget the delighting in destruction, chaos, ruin, death, and torment of others.
Or so the Bible says, and I have pointed out before it is very odd that he toes the line in terms of the role God has given him so well.
God says "Satan is Evil, he will hurt humanity" and... Satan is evil and will hurt humanity.
And out of interest, in terms man-made law, is the bystander who watches a crime happen, and who has the means to stop it but doesn't, free of guilt? No, technically they are also liable under the law.
And I was told Satan only has the power to influence usually, he doesn't wander around pushing grannies down stairs and setting fire to kittens. God on the other hand... well, if one believes the Bible he is personally responsible for all the above - the flood, the Egyptians, letting Satan torment Job... and what exactly will the Rapture and Revelations be about if not God going all out on humanity?
Lord Urizen
Originally posted by JacopeX
Just a curiosity......How old are you?
20 ...
And just for the hell of it, I'd be that despite my seemingly immature presentation, I probably know a HELL of a lot more about your religion than YOU do
Lord Urizen
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
I Exalt Thee
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Pete Sanchez Jr.
For Thou, O Lord , art high above all the earth
Thou art exalted far above all gods
For Thou, O Lord , art high above all the earth
Thou art exalted far above all gods
I exalt Thee, I exalt Thee
I exalt Thee, O Lord
I exalt Thee, I exalt Thee
I exalt Thee, O Lord
Listen INFIDEL
There is NO ROOM FOR CHRIST IN THIS THREAD ! HE IS THE ENEMY !
This thread is only dedicated to SATAN his demonic followers, I who happen to BE ONE
Take your Jesus propaganda ELSEWHERE.....
And prepare your TROOPS JIA ! For I shall lead Satan's demonic homosexual army, and we will DESTROY YOUR ANGELIC FLEET !
ALL HAIL SATAN ! droolio
Imperial_Samura
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Listen INFIDEL
There is NO ROOM FOR CHRIST IN THIS THREAD ! HE IS THE ENEMY !
This thread is only dedicated to SATAN his demonic followers, I who happen to BE ONE
Take your Jesus propaganda ELSEWHERE.....
And prepare your TROOPS JIA ! For I shall lead Satan's demonic homosexual army, and we will DESTROY YOUR ANGELIC FLEET !
ALL HAIL SATAN ! droolio
The funny thing is that there would be relatively few homosexuals, since they have always been the minority. Hell is full of adulterors and prostitutes and feminists and all the rest.
I dare say you should be leading Satan's Demonic and Sexually Liberated Army. If that was the case it would be far more tempting to the Angelic legions and promote more defection to your side.
Lord Urizen
Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
The funny thing is that there would be relatively few homosexuals, since they have always been the minority. Hell is full of adulterors and prostitutes and feminists and all the rest.
Yeah but homosexuals are the most evil. They are more evil than murderers, rapists, and the like. Also straight peadophiles are not that bad, but gay peadophiles are the scum of the earth (unless they are part of the clergy, than they are exempt)
Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
I dare say you should be leading Satan's Demonic and Sexually Liberated Army. If that was the case it would be far more tempting to the Angelic legions and promote more defection to your side.
How so ?
Imperial_Samura
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
How so ?
Can you honestly imagine what it would have been like to have lived in Puritan heaven for all time? Can you imagine what it would be like to look upon those enjoying liberty, both sexual and otherwise? Sitting on spikes and eating raw turnips and never having sex or kissing or whatever?
One thing some historians note is the way Rome would pick up the decadent features of cultures they encountered - the thrill of Eastern cults etc. The more stringent a regime the more eager the masses are, it seems, to participate in all that freedom of flesh and mind.
I imagine there would be many Angels who would be tempted.
Lord Urizen
Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
Can you honestly imagine what it would have been like to have lived in Puritan heaven for all time? Can you imagine what it would be like to look upon those enjoying liberty, both sexual and otherwise? Sitting on spikes and eating raw turnips and never having sex or kissing or whatever?
One thing some historians note is the way Rome would pick up the decadent features of cultures they encountered - the thrill of Eastern cults etc. The more stringent a regime the more eager the masses are, it seems, to participate in all that freedom of flesh and mind.
I imagine there would be many Angels who would be tempted.
Yeah that's true.
Well, as of now Hell is a giant orgy droolio while Heaven lacks sex...how boring huh?
My master promises his followers eternal orgasm.....just sign up and RSVP for a spot in Hell's phallanx.
I shall be leading the armies of the damned into battle against the uptight snotnose republicans of Heaven....and i shall pass out condoms and birth control...trust me
It's more fun in Hell !
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