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I think its time every one started to respect the 4th deminsions top Imp Mr. Mxy

Lets start out with sme feats fromt the emperor joker storyline

here arew some scans of the emperor joker storyline where he gave joker 99.99 percent of his power accdentaly( he only meant to give him 1.11% )

These scans show Joker has remade the universe in his image
(he also states that he recreated heaven and earth and talks to the reader).
http://img47.imageshack.us/my.php?image=emperorjokerpage013qu.jpg
http://img458.imageshack.us/my.php?image=emperorjokerpage027ns.jpg
http://img529.imageshack.us/my.php?image=emperorjokerpage039iu.jpg
http://img240.imageshack.us/my.php?image=emperorjokerpage045xo.jpg
http://img240.imageshack.us/my.php?image=emperorjokerpage052qq.jpg
http://img240.imageshack.us/my.php?image=emperorjokerpage064id.jpg

another example of what Joker did to earth
http://img375.imageshack.us/my.php?image=emperorjokerpage092ns.jpg

heres what joker with mxy's power made the JLA become
http://img52.imageshack.us/my.php?image=emperorjokerpage200ow.jpg
http://img47.imageshack.us/my.php?image=emperorjokerpage212gs.jpg
http://img52.imageshack.us/my.php?image=emperorjokerpage226of.jpg

Joker plays with the robins
http://img47.imageshack.us/my.php?image=emperorjokerpage240hj.jpg

Joker with Mxys powers controls the Quintessence and then Darkseid
http://img52.imageshack.us/my.php?image=emperorjokerpage317mi.jpg
http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=emperorjokerpage327lr.jpg

Joker esurrects luthor who he killed earlier on a whim and then killshim again

http://img207.imageshack.us/my.php?image=supermanvol2161p080xl.jpg

This is what Joker did to gotham city
http://img207.imageshack.us/my.php?image=supermanvol2161p112nd.jpg
http://img161.imageshack.us/my.php?image=supermanvol2161p129pb.jpg

Joker with Mxy's power efortlessly destroys and then remakes the universe where superman and the rest of team are dogs and other animals
and the rest of the JLA are mice.
http://img107.imageshack.us/my.php?image=adventuresofsuperman583p208em.jpg
http://img530.imageshack.us/my.php?image=adventuresofsuperman583p214tl.jpg
http://img530.imageshack.us/my.php?image=adventuresofsuperman583p221tc.jpg
http://img389.imageshack.us/my.php?image=manofsteel105p172oa.jpg

after a while Jokerr gets bored and returns the Justice League to the way they were before he turned them into animals an dtransports Supermand the rest of his team away into a horrible life while he watches it in a movie theater
http://img373.imageshack.us/my.php?image=manofsteel105p050lo.jpg
http://img389.imageshack.us/my.php?image=manofsteel105p065bq.jpg
http://img389.imageshack.us/my.php?image=manofsteel105p076ao.jpg
http://img389.imageshack.us/my.php?image=manofsteel105p087eb.jpg
http://img472.imageshack.us/my.php?image=manofsteel105p096rf.jpg
http://img472.imageshack.us/my.php?image=manofsteel105p106tn.jpg
http://img472.imageshack.us/my.php?image=manofsteel105p114wd.jpg
http://img472.imageshack.us/my.php?image=manofsteel105p128ms.jpg
http://img389.imageshack.us/my.php?image=manofsteel105p132pl.jpg
http://img472.imageshack.us/my.php?image=manofsteel105p140fm.jpg

This scan shows the spectre falling into Emperor Joker's control
http://img389.imageshack.us/my.php?image=manofsteel105p172oa.jpg

Joker easilly destroys the JLA retunred to normal .
http://img222.imageshack.us/my.php?image=manofsteel105p229qj.jpg
http://img131.imageshack.us/my.php?image=actioncomics770p012ew.jpg
http://img131.imageshack.us/my.php?image=actioncomics770p020od.jpg
http://img213.imageshack.us/my.php?image=actioncomics770p035mg.jpg

Joker has spectre tied up in a cage and finds out that he canpremanently destroy the universe and decides to do so
http://img104.imageshack.us/my.php?image=actioncomics770p052mo.jpg

Joker explains why he wants to permenently destroy the universe to harley and then turns her into a bunch of stars
http://img116.imageshack.us/my.php?image=actioncomics770p123ur.jpg
http://img116.imageshack.us/my.php?image=actioncomics770p139oa.jpg

Just as Joker is about to destory evrything there is ignition"Kills" him only to find out that Joker can't be killed
http://img239.imageshack.us/my.php?image=actioncomics770p145es.jpg
http://img371.imageshack.us/my.php?image=actioncomics770p156vo.jpg

So is this respect Emp Joker, or Respect Mxy?

cause I have some good scans of non cannon Mxy...

Originally posted by Galan777
SO is this respect Emp Joker, or Respect Mxy?

its for Mxy

Mxy gave Joker that power

Joker could not have done this without Mxys power so.....

can I post some scans of world's funnest mxy?

Here ya go........

Mxy toys with Spectre:
http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/8991/sfunnest16ut6.th.jpg
http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/7576/sfunnest17sw4.th.jpg

Mxy and Bat-Mite's battleing causes distruction throughout the Multiverse:
http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/2803/sfunnest19qv0.th.jpg
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/9769/sfunnest29fm8.th.jpg
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/3686/sfunnest31gf1.th.jpg

Taking Darkseid's OE without a scratch, and then beating Darkseid easily:
http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/9303/sfunnest35lt2.th.jpg
http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/1623/sfunnest36xi1.th.jpg

More distructive battleing:
http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/8899/sfunnest57dr9.th.jpg
http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/1909/sfunnest58bl6.th.jpg

And finally, Mxy destroys EVERYTHING in the DCU except for him and Bat-Mite:
http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/9692/sfunnest60aj3.th.jpg

Originally posted by Galan777
Here ya go........

Mxy toys with Spectre:
http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/8991/sfunnest16ut6.th.jpg
http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/7576/sfunnest17sw4.th.jpg

Mxy and Bat-Mite's battleing causes distruction throughout the Multiverse:
http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/2803/sfunnest19qv0.th.jpg
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/9769/sfunnest29fm8.th.jpg
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/3686/sfunnest31gf1.th.jpg

Taking Darkseid's OE without a scratch, and then beating Darkseid easily:
http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/9303/sfunnest35lt2.th.jpg
http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/1623/sfunnest36xi1.th.jpg

More distructive battleing:
http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/8899/sfunnest57dr9.th.jpg
http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/1909/sfunnest58bl6.th.jpg

And finally, Mxy destroys EVERYTHING in the DCU except for him and Bat-Mite:
http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/9692/sfunnest60aj3.th.jpg
cool thanks
heres a funny scan of mxy http://www.heroesanddragons.com/Archive/Reviews/TugsPick/2004Top10/top10_10_adventuresofsuperman.jpg

Originally posted by Devil Lance
cool thanks No problem....... The scans I posted show how powerful Mxy really is......... IMO no one in DC has anywhere nears the feats he does

You guys happen to read much Superman?
in Rucka's run leading up to Crisis, he appeared once every 4 months and was telling all about the Crisis, and helping Superman do what he needed to do. One of the issues is collected in the Countdown to infinite Crisis, alongside the issue of Flash and blind Wonder Woman, and a couple of others.

In one of the issues, he went and hung out with the editors. Not the first time he's done so. One time he laughed with some of the staff several years ago about how comic characters take themselves so seriously.

Originally posted by Juntai
You guys happen to read much Superman?
in Rucka's run leading up to Crisis, he appeared once every 4 months and was telling all about the Crisis, and helping Superman do what he needed to do. One of the issues is collected in the Countdown to infinite Crisis, alongside the issue of Flash and blind Wonder Woman, and a couple of others.

In one of the issues, he went and hung out with the editors. Not the first time he's done so. One time he laughed with some of the staff several years ago about how comic characters take themselves so seriously. Lol, yeah Im actually looking for some of those scans, I used to have some of those issues, but now i cant find them....

They wer funny as hell though

Originally posted by Galan777
No problem....... The scans I posted show how powerful Mxy really is......... IMO no one in DC has anywhere nears the feats he does
You dont happend to have bigger scan's.
The first time I saw the World funnest Mxy destroying all existance we got one scan more, where you could see the colors and scetches being removed from the paper by Mxy.

And the scan's where bigger. - could you post them if you find them, or possibly make new.

Proof that Mxy has access to the Multi-Verse he summoned all Batmans and Supermans to fight Darkseid and some other villains
http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/8804/1lk4.th.jpg

Here is cannon Mxy proving that he can exist in the actual real world:

http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/1993/1gt1.th.jpg
http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/3882/1yh6.th.jpg
http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/1788/2wq7.th.jpg

props to juggs

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
The first time I saw the World funnest Mxy destroying all existance we got one scan more, where you could see the colors and scetches being removed from the paper by Mxy. Yeah here are those scans from "World's Funnest" It was a big 2 page spread, so I had to scan it in 2 parts........

Here Mxy starts unleashing his DCU destroying blast:

http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/5059/wf1or2.th.jpg

In this scan you can actually see the color leaving the characters as Mxy destroys the entire DCU:
http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/6264/wf2up1.th.jpg

Hey Galan post the scans where the Parasite twins try to attack mxy

yeah, you will have to give me a little while though, my scanner is messin up....... but ill post those scans as soon as I can.

They always call him Mr. Mxy, but what is his real first name you ask?

Here it is, well part of it at least:

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/1536/namecc4.th.jpg

I'll just stick with Mxy

Originally posted by Devil Lance
Hey Galan post the scans where the Parasite twins try to attack mxy Ok i finally got my scanner working.

Heres the scans of Mxy toying with the Parasite twins (who had just effortlessly killed Superman):

The twins can't even touch Mxy:
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/6710/mxy1il3.th.jpg

Mxy shows that the twins are truly nothing to him:
http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/5140/mxy2vv1.th.jpg

Geeze, I dont know how i forgot to add this.

This is a scan of Mxy talking to the "Supreme Being" of the DCU:

http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/4725/manofsteel75p21iw1.th.jpg

Heres some scans of Ultimator (whom is from the 10th dimension). This creature has the power to eat all of the other Imps and dimensions for breakfast, but who would possibly have the guts to stand up to this all-powerful creature you ask?

Why, our favorite 5-D Imp of course:

http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/9196/mxypage04nf0.th.jpg

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/5341/mxypage05zm8.th.jpg

http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/7759/mxypage06tt1.th.jpg

These are some scans of Mr. Mxyzptlk's all powerful "True Form":
http://img487.imageshack.us/img487/3838/mxy3ia2.th.jpg


In this form Mxy is a being of pure 5th dimensional energy:
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/8527/mxy1mf9.th.jpg

What?

Did you really think a being of such incredible power (Mxy) would resemble a funny looking man in a derby hat?


Even PC Superman knows that he is no match for this enraged Mxy:
http://img486.imageshack.us/img486/7485/mxy2cx0.th.jpg

Originally posted by Galan007
Heres some scans of Ultimator (whom is from the 10th dimension). This creature has the power to eat all of the other Imps and dimensions for breakfast, but who would possibly have the guts to stand up to this all-powerful creature you ask?

Why, our favorite 5-D Imp of course:

http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/9196/mxypage04nf0.th.jpg

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/5341/mxypage05zm8.th.jpg

http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/7759/mxypage06tt1.th.jpg

Just to add to this....

After a huge battle between different comics ensued, mxy duped Ultimator into coming to the Dream Lords realm where he actually fell asleep for the rest of Eternity, because the Dream Lord is so damn boring:
http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/7656/mx1ao4.th.jpg

Mxy then sealed that comic in plastic wrap so Ultimator could never escape:
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/3412/mx2mm8.th.jpg

Emperor Joker's power was more then just Universal....


At this point in the story, Joker had already reshaped the Universe in his image:
http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/9431/ej1mv7.th.jpg


Mxy comments that should Joker learn to control all of his Imp powers, he would be able to dominate ALL of Time and Space.....

So if Joker had already warped one Universe at this point, what could Mxy be referring to when he says "ALL of Space and Time"?

The DC Multiverse perhaps?:
http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/2166/ej2wx7.th.jpg


Later on in the story, Darkseid finds out that Joker has realised his true potential, when he meets with the protectors of the Combined Universes:
http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/7922/ej3ev6.th.jpg

http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/8140/ej4qz6.th.jpg



More than Universal...

Some people argued that what Emperor Joker did, was accomplished using only Bat-Mite's power, not Mxy's.....



Well I did some research and found that Emperor Joker DID have Mxy's power....


These scans came after the first Emperor Joker incident... And after Mxy's powers were restored.



Mxy says to Joker...

"You were never meant to have access to ALL my 5th Dimensional magics, that was MY bad."

"That all got erased... But you apparently held onto one little bit that I want back":
http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/4228/mxy1pt7.th.jpg


The scan above then leads to this scan which some people, (me included), may have formerly misconstrued into thinking that Joker only had Bat-Mite's power:
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/2518/mxy2vn0.th.jpg
(Bat-Mite was just the, "one little bit" that Mxy wanted back).


The scans above also lead me to think since Mxy referred to Bat-Mite as part of his power, that Mxy is responsible for creating Bat-Mite as well..... But that's just my opinion.

With the snap of his fingers, Mxy fuses Batman and Superman into a single composite being:
http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/879/mxy1za5.th.jpg

About Mxy creating Bat-Mite, in World's Finest, Batman actually came up with that same theory after his first experience with either one of the imps, when they visited him and Superman at the Daily Planet. So, you're not alone in your opinion, Galan!

I don't want to be a flaw in this diamond, but "space and time", like "reality" means one universe ...

Originally posted by Ize19
About Mxy creating Bat-Mite, in World's Finest, Batman actually came up with that same theory after his first experience with either one of the imps, when they visited him and Superman at the Daily Planet. So, you're not alone in your opinion, Galan! Sweet.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
I don't want to be a flaw in this diamond, but "space and time", like "reality" means one universe ... Please read the scans again.

Joker had already re-shaped one Universe.

AFTER this, is when the "ALL space and Time" statement was made.


So clearly in this instance,

ALL Space and Time > 1 Universe.

Mxy meets Impossible Man:


http://i82.imagethrust.com/t/819438/m1.jpg http://i82.imagethrust.com/t/819439/m2.jpg http://i82.imagethrust.com/t/819440/m3.jpg http://i81.imagethrust.com/t/819441/m4.jpg
http://i82.imagethrust.com/t/819442/m5.jpg http://i81.imagethrust.com/t/819443/m6.jpg http://i81.imagethrust.com/t/819444/m7.jpg http://i81.imagethrust.com/t/819445/m8.jpg http://i82.imagethrust.com/t/819446/m9.jpg



Sure these scans are from a non-canon crossover, but they're fun to look at nonetheless.

Mxy is funny, but what's the point in creating a respect thread for him?

He is a funny, multidimensional, overpowered idiot. But he DON'T deserves respect.

Sorry, Impfans

Shows Lois and Clark a possible future.

http://img506.imageshack.us/img506/7793/aos638js04vz9.th.jpg

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/1127/aos638js05df4.th.jpg

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/5415/aos638js06cf6.th.jpg

http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/8159/aos638js07go8.th.jpg

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/8373/aos638js0809ar9.th.jpg

Continued...

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/2185/aos638js1011rw7.th.jpg

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/8979/aos638js12qf3.th.jpg

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/5063/aos638js13es7.th.jpg

http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/3973/aos638js14jj5.th.jpg

http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/6480/aos638js15af0.th.jpg

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/3933/aos638js16gb8.th.jpg

Continued...

Originally posted by Galan007
Please read the scans again.

Joker had already re-shaped one Universe.

AFTER this, is when the "ALL space and Time" statement was made.


So clearly in this instance,

ALL Space and Time > 1 Universe.
Mxyztplk also says "I actually grasp the concept that if you obliterate reality there will be nobody left to play with"
So he can only play with beings in that reality--universal?

Joker didnt domniate all universe, Superman and the others was going against him, so did Mxyztplk.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Mxyztplk also says "I actually grasp the concept that if you obliterate reality there will be nobody left to play with"
So he can only play with beings in that reality--universal?Again,

That quote from Mxy was made AFTER Joker had already warped one Universe.

So if one Universe had already been warped (which clearly was the case), then Mxy clearly wasn't talking about just one Universe.

In this instance, the statement "ALL space and time" is referring to more then a singular Universe.

In this instance, "ALL space and time" is seemingly referring to the DC Multiverse.


Sorry, but Marvel terms and definitions don't always crossover into DC, (this is a prime example).


Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Joker didnt domniate all universe, Superman and the others was going against him, so did Mxyztplk. Joker warped 1 Universe, he didn't try to warp any more then that.

I never said otherwise.


I simply commented that his power was Multiversal in scale.

Originally posted by Galan007
Again,

That quote from Mxy was made AFTER Joker had already warped one Universe.

So if one Universe had already been warped (which clearly was the case), then Mxy clearly wasn't talking about just one Universe.

In this instance, the statement "ALL space and time" is referring to more then a singular Universe.

In this instance, "ALL space and time" is seemingly referring to the DC Multiverse.


Sorry, but Marvel terms and definitions don't always crossover into DC, (this is a prime example).


Joker warped 1 Universe, he didn't try to warp any more then that.

I never said otherwise.


I simply commented that his power was Multiversal in scale.
My point was, he didnt have complete control over time and space, but if it went futher he would dominate time and space

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
My point was, he didnt have complete control over time and space, but if it went futher he would dominate time and space This is my point.

Joker DID realize his potential, Darkseid was the first to find this out, (as was demonstrated in the scans I already posted).


What this means is Emperor Joker's power WAS Multiversal, he just never tried to affect more than one Universe.

What percentage of Mxy's power did Joker have when he Remade a Universe?

Originally posted by Mr Master
What percentage of Mxy's power did Joker have when he Remade a Universe? 99%

With this power,

Joker made Spectre his b*tch and reshaped the Universe in his image, (yet possessed Multiversal power).

Maybe it would be feat for mxy too how did he get his power back ???

Originally posted by Utrigita
Maybe it would be feat for mxy too how did he get his power back ??? Mxy doesn't need that feat, he's already destroyed no less than 2 Multiverses on panel.

And he got his power back by tricking Joker in the end.

Originally posted by Galan007
Mxy doesn't need that feat, he's already destroyed no less than 2 Multiverses on panel.

And he got his power back by tricking Joker in the end.

Okay cool mxy isn't as stupid as people thinks

Originally posted by Utrigita
Okay cool mxy isn't as stupid as people thinks He can be "smart" if the situation calls for it.

Originally posted by Galan007
Mxy doesn't need that feat, he's already destroyed no less than 2 Multiverses on panel.

And he got his power back by tricking Joker in the end.
I doubt it's a canon feautre, does the issue where Jonathan talk about elseworlds and how its a part of the DC mainstream.
Is that issue elseworlds?
Cause if it is, then a elseworld comic says it's canon, but that would mean since it's an elseworld mean its not canon, thus Worlds Funnest isnt.

Originally posted by Galan007
99%

With this power,

Joker made Spectre his b*tch and reshaped the Universe in his image, (yet possessed Multiversal power).

Did he have Multiversal feats?

How does Spectre get beat by 99% or even Mxy himself?

That's so corny, isn't Spectre compared to the LT by DC cats?

Spectre ain't no LT.

Originally posted by Galan007
Mxy doesn't need that feat, he's already destroyed no less than 2 Multiverses on panel.

And he got his power back by tricking Joker in the end.

After finally acquiring World's Funnest for myself, I read it entirely and

I never came across where Mxy enters DC's Hypertime or Multiverse, the enitre story takes place from beginning to end within the confines of Elseworlds.

Do you know where it is that Mxy enters the "Real" DC Reality?


Another question is what is Mxy doing destroying DC's Hypertime in an Elseworlds Comic book, if that were the case?

Especially considering that when World's Funnest was published, Elseworlds was completely Non-Canon, taking place in a separate continuity unto itself.


The story from the very beginning tells us it takes place in a Reality that "shouldn't, wouldn't or can't happen" ... so how did it turn into the True DC Reality?

Originally posted by Mr Master
Did he have Multiversal feats?

How does Spectre get beat by 99% or even Mxy himself?

That's so corny, isn't Spectre compared to the LT by DC cats?

Spectre ain't no LT.
Well there is Spectre, simply wrath. And Spectre tapped into the logoz, the Wrath of God.
Spectre tapped into the logoz is the original one, he could squat Mxyztplk, no, Ultimator even between his fingers.
That would be comparable to the Living Tribunal.

Originally posted by Mr Master
After finally acquiring World's Funnest for myself, I read it entirely and

I never came across where Mxy enters DC's Hypertime or Multiverse, the enitre story takes place from beginning to end within the confines of Elseworlds.

Do you know where it is that Mxy enters the "Real" DC Reality?


Another question is what is Mxy doing destroying DC's Hypertime in an Elseworlds Comic book, if that were the case?

Especially considering that when World's Funnest was published, Elseworlds was completely Non-Canon, taking place in a separate continuity unto itself.


The story from the very beginning tells us it takes place in a Reality that "shouldn't, wouldn't or can't happen" ... so how did it turn into the True DC Reality? Elseworlds is canon to Hypertime however. One such instance would be the idea that Kingdom Come is part of Hypertime.. and is an elseworlds comic. Spectre was fighting across Hypertime in Infinite Crisis... Also noting that a Kingdom Come character is currently a mainstay in DC's new JSA title.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Did he have Multiversal feats?

How does Spectre get beat by 99% or even Mxy himself?

That's so corny, isn't Spectre compared to the LT by DC cats?

Spectre ain't no LT. Hal Jordan as the host of the Spectre was essentially tricked into sitting stationary, in fear that his actions would cause the collapse of all that ever was. So he sat until the end of the story, when he finally got out and then he rebuilt reality from the ground up. Part of the thing with Spectre is that he has nigh infinite power, but the power is held in check by the will of a mortal.

During Infinite Crisis, Spectre's war on magic left Mxy powerless.

Originally posted by Juntai
During Infinite Crisis, Spectre's war on magic left Mxy powerless. Not sure about that one.

Mxy still had some power during the "Ruin arch", he just couldn't remember how to use it all.


He did remember how to use some of it though, and when he was shot by Ruin's K-Nite bullet, Mxy uttered his name backwards and dissappeared from Superman's arms.

Originally posted by Galan007
That's not entirely true.

Mxy still had some power during the "Ruin arch", he just couldn't remember how to use it.


He did remember how to use some of it though, and when he was shot by Ruin's K-Nite bullet, Mxy uttered his name backwards and dissappeared from Superman's arms. It's true enough however, and the Ruin ordeal was during the Crisis. Mxy was walking around pretty much as a regular human. Without digging out my issues out of the boxes, didn't Superman find him basically dying in an alleyway? And he said this was a result of what...? Spectre's war on magic.

If the two ever truly confronted eachother, there's nothing to lead me to believe Mxy wouldn't go the way of Shazam... despite being more powerful, Spectre can still simply sap his magic or absorb him outright. But for this to happen, Spectre would have to determine him as a threat, or evil. Since Mxy is neither, and actually serves a great purpose in reality, due to his dealings with Superman, it's not likely to ever happen.

Originally posted by Juntai
It's true enough however, and the Ruin ordeal was during the Crisis. Mxy was walking around pretty much as a regular human. Without digging out my issues out of the boxes, didn't Superman find him basically dying in an alleyway? And he said this was a result of what...? Spectre's war on magic. Superman found Mxy in the alley, but he wasn't dying...... Just depressed it seemed.

And he did still have some magic left, (ie. when he transported himself and Superman to Ruin's location).

And again, when he seemingly "died", Mxy said his name backwards and disappeared from Superman's arms, (another display of magic it would seem).

I'm not saying Spectre didn't depower Mxy in some way, I just think it wasn't as much of a depowerment as it was a mind-wipe.

Because once Mxy started remembering, and believing in himself, he through some magic around.

Originally posted by Juntai
If the two ever truly confronted eachother, there's nothing to lead me to believe Mxy wouldn't go the way of Shazam... despite being more powerful, Spectre can still simply sap his magic or absorb him outright. But for this to happen, Spectre would have to determine him as a threat, or evil. That's your opinion, and you are entitled to it.

Originally posted by Juntai
Elseworlds is canon to Hypertime however. One such instance would be the idea that Kingdom Come is part of Hypertime.. and is an elseworlds comic. Spectre was fighting across Hypertime in Infinite Crisis...

I hear you,

but this doesn't place Mxy in the DC Reality during World's Funnest.

In World's Funnest, it begins within a Reality from Elseworlds, and continues on from there.

No where does Mxy touch the DC Reality as in Hypertime.

When Mxy said he destroyed all the infinite Earths and Alternate dimensions, from what I Saw and Read in World's Funnest, it's that Multiverse that gets erased, as in the Elseworlds Multiverse,

The 5th Dimension, and the Phantom Zone (don't know where this fits in)

Does Elseworlds produce stories that include these locations, I'll look into it, I downloaded the entire Elseworlds collection.

In fact, when he begins to erase Reality, one can clearly see it's Kingdom Come, getting the first hit, suggesting it's within the Elseworlds Reality this is taking place.


Originally posted by Juntai
Also noting that a Kingdom Come character is currently a mainstay in DC's new JSA title.

This isn't sufficient evidence to make all Elseworlds stories before the retcon canon.

This could just be that individual that was brought into continuity.


Anyhow I'm arguing whether it's canon or not,

but I know World's Funnest was definitely NOT Canon when it was published,

so HOW the heck is Mxy destroying DC's Hypertime in an Elseworlds title, that took place in a separate continuity unto itself?

Even if it was retconned into continuity later, the story still took place in Elseworlds alone.

Originally posted by Galan007
Superman found Mxy in the alley, but he wasn't dying...... Just depressed it seemed.

And he did still have some magic left, (ie. when he transported himself and Superman to Ruin's location).

And again, when he seemingly "died", Mxy said his name backwards and disappeared from Superman's arms, (another display of magic it would seem).

I'm not saying Spectre didn't depower Mxy in some way, I just think it wasn't as much of a depowerment as it was a mind-wipe.

Because once Mxy started remembering, and believing in himself, he through some magic around.

That's your opinion, and you are entitled to it. OK, I pulled out the issue, when Superman and he are talking, he says "I couldn't cast another spell if my life depended on it". And says that it's going to.

He has to ride on Superman's back to fly throughout the issue.

He even says his name backwards once, and didn't dissapear.

Later on, after riding around with Superman, he begins slowly feeling better, says he might have a spell or two left.

Even teleporting a short distance in the issue with Superman, thinks "This is going to hurt A LOT", and afterwards sprawls across the ground in pain.

A kryptonite rod is then shot through his chest, and he bleeds and collapses, dying.

Then he says his name backwards as he's dying, and becomes immaterial and dissapear.

Originally posted by Mr Master
I hear you,

but this doesn't place Mxy in the DC Reality during World's Funnest.

In World's Funnest, it begins within a Reality from Elseworlds, and continues on from there.

No where does Mxy touch the DC Reality as in Hypertime.

When Mxy said he destroyed all the infinite Earths and Alternate dimensions, from what I Saw and Read in World's Funnest, it's that Multiverse that gets erased, as in the Elseworlds Multiverse,

The 5th Dimension, and the Phantom Zone (don't know where this fits in)

Does Elseworlds produce stories that include these locations, I'll look into it, I downloaded the entire Elseworlds collection.

In fact, when he begins to erase Reality, one can clearly see it's Kingdom Come, getting the first hit, suggesting it's within the Elseworlds Reality this is taking place.




This isn't sufficient evidence to make all Elseworlds stories before the retcon canon.

This could just be that individual that was brought into continuity.


Anyhow I'm arguing whether it's canon or not,

but I know World's Funnest was definitely NOT Canon when it was published,

so HOW the heck is Mxy destroying DC's Hypertime in an Elseworlds title, that took place in a separate continuity unto itself?

Even if it was retconned into continuity later, the story still took place in Elseworlds alone. I told you, Elseworlds are connected through Hypertime, The Kingdom showed us that, in that an Elseworlds character was moving through hypertime and then eventually ended up in current continuity.
Kingdom Come is continuity, but a different reality.
At the end of the Pre-One Year Later issues DC printed at the end of Crisis, it showed the main character of that book, and all of his/her elsworlds versions, such as Red Son Superman, for one example. Another Elseworlds title.

Originally posted by Juntai
OK, I pulled out the issue, when Superman and he are talking, he says "I couldn't cast another spell if my life depended on it". And says that it's going to.

He has to ride on Superman's back to fly throughout the issue.

He even says his name backwards once, and didn't dissapear.

Later on, after riding around with Superman, he begins slowly feeling better, says he might have a spell or two left.

Even teleporting a short distance in the issue with Superman, thinks "This is going to hurt A LOT", and afterwards sprawls across the ground in pain.

A kryptonite rod is then shot through his chest, and he bleeds and collapses, dying.

Then he says his name backwards as he's dying, and becomes immaterial and dissapear. Isn't that basically what I said, (regarding the magic Mxy used)?



My main point was that Mxy clearly didn't seem to be "truly" depowered.

Do you agree or disagree with that?

Originally posted by Galan007
Is that not what I basically said, (regarding Mxy's power)?



My main point was that Mxy clearly didn't seem to be "truly" depowered.

Do you agree or disagree with that? He was clearly depowered. The idea that he couldn't cast anything, or even fly, until a single teleportation spell at the end of the issue that left him cursing and sprawled on the floor certainly gives the feeling he had nothing left to give. If he did have any power, a simple Kryptonite Rod wouldn't have hit him, let alone suffice in actually making him bleed.

Originally posted by Juntai
He was clearly depowered. The idea that he couldn't cast anything, or even fly, until a single teleportation spell at the end of the issue that left him cursing and sprawled on the floor certainly gives the feeling he had nothing left to give. If he did have any power, a simple Kryptonite Rod wouldn't have hit him, let alone suffice in actually making him bleed. If Mxy was truly depowered, there should have been no spell casting period IMO.

And how do you explain Mxy disappearing from Superman's arms after saying his name backwards?

If he was "mortal" this would not have happened.

Originally posted by Galan007
If Mxy was truly depowered, there should have been no spell casting period IMO.

And how do you explain Mxy disappearing from Superman's arms after saying his name backwards?

If he was "mortal" this would not have happened. A lot can't/won't be explained until we see Mxy next.
However, he couldn't fly, and couldn't cast besides one short distance teleport that evidently, from the storytelling in the issue -- as it was being narrated by the imp himself -- seemed all that he had left. Though I will give you that there is probably more to the story, we're just yet to see it, and can't base anything off of presumtions.

I just found out that Mxy destroyed ALL of DC.

Not just one Multiverse, not just two, but ALL.


Is it canon though? hm



This is the actual CREATOR himself of World's Funnest making a statement.

http://www.houseoffun.com/athome/newsletter2000d.html


Nearly two years after I began work on it, SUPERMAN AND BATMAN: WORLD'S FUNNEST -- the one-shot superhero satire and overall dope-fest I wrote for DC Comics -- finally ships to shops on Nov 1st._ As you may know by know after having me blather on about the stupid thing for the past year or so, the book is a 64 pg prestige format (that means, fancy-schmancy and kinda expensive) revolving around a silly feud between beloved/despised DC "pest" characters Bat-Mite and Mr Mxyzptlk that spills over into practically every "era" of DC's publishing history, featuring artwork by a gathering of some of the best known and admired people in the funnybook biz: Brian Bolland, Dave Gibbons, Mike Allred, Shelly Moldoff, Stuart Immonen and Joe Giella. Frank Cho, Jaime Hernandez, Scott Shaw, Stephen DeStefano, Jim Woodring, David Mazzucchelli, Jay Stephens, Glen Murikami and Bruce Timm, Frank Miller, Doug Mahnke and Norm Rapmund, Phil Jimenez, Ty Templeton and Alex Ross. The lettering was handled by Tom Orzechowski, and most of the coloring work was done by Chris Chuckry (Alex Ross and David Mazzucchelli did their own coloring on their sections). I'm glad to have had the opportunity to work with such an amazing group of cartoonists on this goofy book, and I'm really, really happy that the damned thing is finally coming out at long last. I hope the fans enjoy what we've done, but at this point I don't really care -- it's done, I'm finished, it looks great, I think most of the jokes work, and I'm very happy with the way it came out.


So while they made an effort to make it look sweet visually,

it's considered a goofy book by the Creator himself.

Originally posted by Juntai
A lot can't/won't be explained until we see Mxy next.
However, he couldn't fly, and couldn't cast besides one short distance teleport that evidently, from the storytelling in the issue -- as it was being narrated by the imp himself -- seemed all that he had left. Though I will give you that there is probably more to the story, we're just yet to see it, and can't base anything off of presumtions. I agree.

As for the flying part,

If you remember, Mxy seemed to fly in front of Superman just before the K-Nite hit him, which saved Superman's life, (seemingly more powers returning).

Originally posted by Mr Master
I just found out that Mxy destroyed ALL of DC.

Not just one Multiverse, not just two, but ALL. Sweet.


Originally posted by Mr Master
Is it canon though? hm

So while they made an effort to make it look sweet visually,

it's considered a goofy book by the Creator himself. Almost every comic I've read dealing with Mxy was "goofy".

Does that make all of his appearences non-canon?

Originally posted by Mr Master
I just found out that Mxy destroyed ALL of DC.

Not just one Multiverse, not just two, but ALL.


Is it canon though? hm



This is the actual CREATOR himself of World's Funnest making a statement.

http://www.houseoffun.com/athome/newsletter2000d.html


Nearly two years after I began work on it, SUPERMAN AND BATMAN: WORLD'S FUNNEST -- the one-shot superhero satire and overall dope-fest I wrote for DC Comics -- finally ships to shops on Nov 1st._ As you may know by know after having me blather on about the stupid thing for the past year or so, the book is a 64 pg prestige format (that means, fancy-schmancy and kinda expensive) revolving around a silly feud between beloved/despised DC "pest" characters Bat-Mite and Mr Mxyzptlk that spills over into practically every "era" of DC's publishing history, featuring artwork by a gathering of some of the best known and admired people in the funnybook biz: Brian Bolland, Dave Gibbons, Mike Allred, Shelly Moldoff, Stuart Immonen and Joe Giella. Frank Cho, Jaime Hernandez, Scott Shaw, Stephen DeStefano, Jim Woodring, David Mazzucchelli, Jay Stephens, Glen Murikami and Bruce Timm, Frank Miller, Doug Mahnke and Norm Rapmund, Phil Jimenez, Ty Templeton and Alex Ross. The lettering was handled by Tom Orzechowski, and most of the coloring work was done by Chris Chuckry (Alex Ross and David Mazzucchelli did their own coloring on their sections). I'm glad to have had the opportunity to work with such an amazing group of cartoonists on this goofy book, and I'm really, really happy that the damned thing is finally coming out at long last. I hope the fans enjoy what we've done, but at this point I don't really care -- it's done, I'm finished, it looks great, I think most of the jokes work, and I'm very happy with the way it came out.


So while they made an effort to make it look sweet visually,

it's considered a goofy book by the Creator himself. Most everytime when Mxy or Batmite enter a story, it becomes a goofy book.

Originally posted by Galan007
Sweet.


Almost every comic I've read dealing with Mxy was "goofy".

Does that make all of his appearences non-canon?

Originally posted by Juntai
Most everytime when Mxy or Batmite enter a story, it becomes a goofy book.

I'm going to investigate this thoroughly.

Then I'll return with answers, I hope.

Mxy and Joker with Bat-Mite's power played a game of chess, where each piece represented an actual being in the DCU...

And each movement Joker and Mxy made, corresponded with a movement said character(s) had to make:

http://i83.imagethrust.com/t/1003600/ds1.jpg http://i84.imagethrust.com/t/1003601/ds2.jpg


Note that some of the "chess pieces" Mxy and Joker are playing with include the likes of Batman, Superman, Metron, and even Darkseid himself.

Judging by this scan, Mxy was not killed during the Ruin incident, and retained his former powers:

http://i84.imagethrust.com/t/1010161/mxy1.jpg

Originally posted by Mr Master
I just found out that Mxy destroyed ALL of DC.

Not just one Multiverse, not just two, but ALL.


Is it canon though? hm



This is the actual CREATOR himself of World's Funnest making a statement.

http://www.houseoffun.com/athome/newsletter2000d.html


Nearly two years after I began work on it, SUPERMAN AND BATMAN: WORLD'S FUNNEST -- the one-shot superhero satire and overall dope-fest I wrote for DC Comics -- finally ships to shops on Nov 1st._ As you may know by know after having me blather on about the stupid thing for the past year or so, the book is a 64 pg prestige format (that means, fancy-schmancy and kinda expensive) revolving around a silly feud between beloved/despised DC "pest" characters Bat-Mite and Mr Mxyzptlk that spills over into practically every "era" of DC's publishing history, featuring artwork by a gathering of some of the best known and admired people in the funnybook biz: Brian Bolland, Dave Gibbons, Mike Allred, Shelly Moldoff, Stuart Immonen and Joe Giella. Frank Cho, Jaime Hernandez, Scott Shaw, Stephen DeStefano, Jim Woodring, David Mazzucchelli, Jay Stephens, Glen Murikami and Bruce Timm, Frank Miller, Doug Mahnke and Norm Rapmund, Phil Jimenez, Ty Templeton and Alex Ross. The lettering was handled by Tom Orzechowski, and most of the coloring work was done by Chris Chuckry (Alex Ross and David Mazzucchelli did their own coloring on their sections). I'm glad to have had the opportunity to work with such an amazing group of cartoonists on this goofy book, and I'm really, really happy that the damned thing is finally coming out at long last. I hope the fans enjoy what we've done, but at this point I don't really care -- it's done, I'm finished, it looks great, I think most of the jokes work, and I'm very happy with the way it came out.


So while they made an effort to make it look sweet visually,

it's considered a goofy book by the Creator himself.

Um I have been saying he destroyed all of DC for some time now. SO you saying it somehow is a revelation? LMAO

Every book with mxy and batmite in them are goofy.

Mxy wanted to reinvent himself into a more serious persona, so he transformed into the "Mxy twins". He did this because he didn't want to go down in the Cosmic who's who, as just an annoyance...




These twins own Superman, and precede to toy with his mind:

http://i83.imagethrust.com/t/1010987/mx2.jpg http://i84.imagethrust.com/t/1010988/mx3.jpg


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With a snap, the Mxy twins remove all the gravity from Earth. According to The Atom, this action would have destroyed the Earth in less than 5 minutes time:

http://i83.imagethrust.com/t/1010989/mx4.jpg http://i84.imagethrust.com/t/1011006/mx5.jpg http://i84.imagethrust.com/t/1011007/mx6.jpg


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The Mxy twins could cause retcons on a whim:

http://i84.imagethrust.com/t/1011008/mx7.jpg http://i84.imagethrust.com/t/1011009/mx8.jpg


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The Mxy twins told Superman that there would be no more game playing, or saying their name backwards to get rid of them, and just as easily as they nearly ended everything, so to did they reset it:

http://i83.imagethrust.com/t/1011010/mx9.jpg

Originally posted by Galan007
Mxy wanted to reinvent himself into a more serious persona, so he transformed into the "Mxy twins". He did this because he didn't want to go down in the Cosmic who's who, as just an annoyance...




These twins own Superman, and precede to toy with his mind:

http://i83.imagethrust.com/t/1010987/mx2.jpg http://i84.imagethrust.com/t/1010988/mx3.jpg


------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


With a snap, the Mxy twins remove all the gravity from Earth. According to The Atom, this action would have destroyed the Earth in less than 5 minutes time:

http://i83.imagethrust.com/t/1010989/mx4.jpg http://i84.imagethrust.com/t/1011006/mx5.jpg http://i84.imagethrust.com/t/1011007/mx6.jpg


------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


The Mxy twins could cause retcons on a whim:

http://i84.imagethrust.com/t/1011008/mx7.jpg http://i84.imagethrust.com/t/1011009/mx8.jpg


------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


The Mxy twins told Superman that there would be no more game playing, or saying their name backwards to get rid of them, and just as easily as they nearly ended everything, so to did they reset it:

http://i83.imagethrust.com/t/1011010/mx9.jpg



WHy would DC turn the most powerful being in comics into serious threats? I missed that one. And how in the world are they gonna fight a being who plays with Reality and Time like we play with Paper and crayons? OMG. I"m just a gasp.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl


WHy would DC turn the most powerful being in comics into serious threats? I missed that one. And how in the world are they gonna fight a being who plays with Reality and Time like we play with Paper and crayons? OMG. I"m just a gasp. srug

DC was probably just testing the water to see how this worked out, (as it's the only time the twins have been seen thus far).


But if DC stays with the concept of Mxy as a "super-villian", then nothing under the Source/Presence, or perhaps Spectre, should be able stop him IMO.

Originally posted by Galan007
srug

DC was probably just testing the water to see how this worked out, (as it's the only time the twins have been seen thus far).


But if DC stays with the concept of Mxy as a "super-villian", then nothing under the Source/Presence, or perhaps Spectre, should be able stop him IMO.

Exactly. So the comics would basically be him torchuring whom ever he wants till an aspect of God comes in. Maybe let the Ultimator out to scare him back into a fun loving imp.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Exactly. So the comics would basically be him torchuring whom ever he wants till an aspect of God comes in. Maybe let the Ultimator out to scare him back into a fun loving imp. An aspect of God....... Or Superman.


Seriously, you know that's how it would happen.

Originally posted by Galan007
An aspect of God....... Or Superman.


Seriously, you know that's how it would happen.
Mxy should upset the entire balance of the DCU and kill Batman and Superman. Now how would that be for a story.

Wut up yall, Is Elseworlds Canon or Not? hm



I found some interesting links, all pointing to Elseworlds being NON-CANON.

Now I'm not saying anyone is right or wrong,

but it doesn't seem logical that so MANY are under a Spell thinking,

Elseworlds is Non-Canon.



I could have found more, it's endless actually, but I figured my intelligent peers would get the point with 13 Sites all in agreement, Elseworlds is Non-Canon.






1. It is an Elseworlds tale and as such is not considered part of the main DC canon/continuity. Despite the title, Batman and Superman play only a small role in the story which stars instead Mr. Mxyzptlk and Bat-Mite as the main protagonists. The book pokes fun at many comics book conventions and DC heroes from the golden through to modern ages. It's setting is a multiverse similar to the pre-crisis DCU but also includes other Elseworlds tales (Kingdom Come and Batman: The Dark Knight Returns), the modern DCU, The DCAU and even pays a visit to Crisis on Infinite Earths.

http://en.allexperts.com/e/s/su/superman_and_batman:_world's_funnest.htm





2. 1996's Kingdom Come, while erroneously considered a crossover by some, featured the entire DC Universe but wasn't a crossover; in fact, it was an Elseworlds story, not affecting DC's normal continuity.

http://www.sequart.com/columns/index.php?col=12&column=932


The greatest Justice League story is 1996's Kingdom Come -- a four-part prestige format Elseworlds (i.e. out of continuity) series, expanded by several pages for the trade paperback and hardcover collections.

http://www.sequart.com/columns/index.php?col=2&column=246






3. Books where Aquaman's appeared:

(Elseworlds - Other, IN Continuity - Spoofs - Misc)
Again, Elseworlds is considered Non-Canon

http://www.eskimo.com/~tegan/aqua/else/aqua.html





4. As Superman: Red Son is also an Elseworlds tale it isn't considered canon but it's an important Superman tale nevertheless.

http://www.deanesmay.com/posts/1170272783.shtml





5. In the Question's list of Appearances,

Elseworlds is under the category Non-Canon:

http://www.vicsage.com/dc/





6. Add to all that ("Elseworlds" being stories that exist outside established canon) Superman doesn't exist:

http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Study/4273/jla.html





7. Didio & Co. are basically molding the (main) friggin' DCU around one story (KC). Heck, not even Indies do something that idiotic forget something as vast as the DCU. For someone who wasn't all that impressed by KC in the first place (and found it to be a rather mediocre Elseworlds, let alone canon, story), this is a losing situation.

http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=106060






8. And for all of those people out there who draw a parallel between What If...? and DC's Elseworlds books, please stop it. There is a pretty noticeable different between the two and the difference is what makes What If...? the more superior series as a whole. As I said, most every What If...? is based on an existing event in the Marvel canon, only with a different outcome. This is a lot different than Elseworlds, which are all about creating totally different universes for the characters to exist in.

Other than that last one, none of those premises have any basis in mainstream continuity. A lot of Elseworlds are really, really good, but the concept of What If...?, being grounded in canon, provides much more nerdy fun than seeing Robin dressed up as a samurai.

http://continuity-error.blogspot.com/2007/01/what-if-journey-into-hypothetical.html






9. Elseworlds is the publication imprint for a group of comic books produced by DC Comics that take place outside the company's canon. According to its tagline: "In Elseworlds, heroes are taken from their usual settings and put into strange times and places - some that have existed, and others that can't, couldn't or shouldn't exist. The result is stories that make characters who are as familiar as yesterday seem as fresh as tomorrow." Unlike its Marvel Comics counterpart What If...?, which bases its stories on a single point of divergence from the regular continuity, most Elseworlds stories instead take place in entirely self-contained continuities whose only connection to the canon DC continuity are the presence of familiar DC characters.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elseworlds






10. Wonder Woman: Amazonia is a comic book/graphic novel published by DC Comics under its Elseworlds imprint. As with all Elseworlds it tells a non-canon story of a DC hero, this time Wonder Woman, outside of regular continuity.

http://www.answers.com/topic/wonder-woman-amazonia






11. If you didn't pick this up because it's Elseworlds that's not in canon, you missed out on the best Batman of the year.

http://bullyscomics.blogspot.com/2007/01/fun-fifty-of-2006-part-4-of-5.html





12. Elseworlds is a group of comic books produced by DC Comics that take place outside the company's canon.

http://www.search.com/reference/Elseworlds





13. Golden Age was an Elseworlds book at its original publication, but the recent reprinting seems to indicate that it’s in continuity, some plot points from other Elseworlds books — e.g. The Dark Knight Returns and Kingdom Come — have turned up in “regular” continuity, but it hasn’t made the entirety of those stories canon.

http://www.eyeoncomics.com/?p=68






You be the judge.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Wut up yall, Is Elseworlds Canon or Not? hm



I found some interesting links, all pointing to Elseworlds being NON-CANON.

Now I'm not saying anyone is right or wrong,

but it doesn't seem logical that so MANY are under a Spell thinking,

Elseworlds is Non-Canon.



I could have found more, it's endless actually, but I figured my intelligent peers would get the point with 13 Sites all in agreement, Elseworlds is Non-Canon.






1. It is an Elseworlds tale and as such is not considered part of the main DC canon/continuity. Despite the title, Batman and Superman play only a small role in the story which stars instead Mr. Mxyzptlk and Bat-Mite as the main protagonists. The book pokes fun at many comics book conventions and DC heroes from the golden through to modern ages. It's setting is a multiverse similar to the pre-crisis DCU but also includes other Elseworlds tales (Kingdom Come and Batman: The Dark Knight Returns), the modern DCU, The DCAU and even pays a visit to Crisis on Infinite Earths.

http://en.allexperts.com/e/s/su/superman_and_batman:_world's_funnest.htm





2. 1996's Kingdom Come, while erroneously considered a crossover by some, featured the entire DC Universe but wasn't a crossover; in fact, it was an Elseworlds story, not affecting DC's normal continuity.

http://www.sequart.com/columns/index.php?col=12&column=932


The greatest Justice League story is 1996's Kingdom Come -- a four-part prestige format Elseworlds (i.e. out of continuity) series, expanded by several pages for the trade paperback and hardcover collections.

http://www.sequart.com/columns/index.php?col=2&column=246






3. Books where Aquaman's appeared:

(Elseworlds - Other, IN Continuity - Spoofs - Misc)
Again, Elseworlds is considered Non-Canon

http://www.eskimo.com/~tegan/aqua/else/aqua.html





4. As Superman: Red Son is also an Elseworlds tale it isn't considered canon but it's an important Superman tale nevertheless.

http://www.deanesmay.com/posts/1170272783.shtml





5. In the Question's list of Appearances,

Elseworlds is under the category Non-Canon:

http://www.vicsage.com/dc/





6. Add to all that ("Elseworlds" being stories that exist outside established canon) Superman doesn't exist:

http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Study/4273/jla.html





7. Didio & Co. are basically molding the (main) friggin' DCU around one story (KC). Heck, not even Indies do something that idiotic forget something as vast as the DCU. For someone who wasn't all that impressed by KC in the first place (and found it to be a rather mediocre Elseworlds, let alone canon, story), this is a losing situation.

http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=106060






8. And for all of those people out there who draw a parallel between What If...? and DC's Elseworlds books, please stop it. There is a pretty noticeable different between the two and the difference is what makes What If...? the more superior series as a whole. As I said, most every What If...? is based on an existing event in the Marvel canon, only with a different outcome. This is a lot different than Elseworlds, which are all about creating totally different universes for the characters to exist in.

Other than that last one, none of those premises have any basis in mainstream continuity. A lot of Elseworlds are really, really good, but the concept of What If...?, being grounded in canon, provides much more nerdy fun than seeing Robin dressed up as a samurai.

http://continuity-error.blogspot.com/2007/01/what-if-journey-into-hypothetical.html






9. Elseworlds is the publication imprint for a group of comic books produced by DC Comics that take place outside the company's canon. According to its tagline: "In Elseworlds, heroes are taken from their usual settings and put into strange times and places - some that have existed, and others that can't, couldn't or shouldn't exist. The result is stories that make characters who are as familiar as yesterday seem as fresh as tomorrow." Unlike its Marvel Comics counterpart What If...?, which bases its stories on a single point of divergence from the regular continuity, most Elseworlds stories instead take place in entirely self-contained continuities whose only connection to the canon DC continuity are the presence of familiar DC characters.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elseworlds






10. Wonder Woman: Amazonia is a comic book/graphic novel published by DC Comics under its Elseworlds imprint. As with all Elseworlds it tells a non-canon story of a DC hero, this time Wonder Woman, outside of regular continuity.

http://www.answers.com/topic/wonder-woman-amazonia






11. If you didn't pick this up because it's Elseworlds that's not in canon, you missed out on the best Batman of the year.

http://bullyscomics.blogspot.com/2007/01/fun-fifty-of-2006-part-4-of-5.html





12. Elseworlds is a group of comic books produced by DC Comics that take place outside the company's canon.

http://www.search.com/reference/Elseworlds





13. Golden Age was an Elseworlds book at its original publication, but the recent reprinting seems to indicate that it’s in continuity, some plot points from other Elseworlds books — e.g. The Dark Knight Returns and Kingdom Come — have turned up in “regular” continuity, but it hasn’t made the entirety of those stories canon.

http://www.eyeoncomics.com/?p=68






You be the judge.

NON of this has any revelance as you are on your pathetic quest to dispove mxy's power. Once Kingdom and IC came out, Every Elseworld's story became an actual reality. SInce there is only one Mxy, and he wiped out EVERYTHING in that story, it would make it cannon to ALL of DC. Try harder.

Elseworlds is canon to Hypertime which is canon to the mainstream DCU.


And p.s.

This respect thread isn't the place for all that stuff you posted Mr M.

Elseworlds is canon buddy, old links aren't going to help you solve this one. In continuity, a lot of the elseworlds universes have been seen, as have the characters.

When Alexander split the multiverse apart in Infinite Crisis, you could see all kinds of elseworlds characters at the end of each title.

Gog, from Elseworlds made it to DC continuity.

Obsidian from Kingdom Come, is in DC continuity now part of the JSA.

The formerly non canon Son of the Bat, was made canon as of the Infinite Crisis.


Not one of your links means anything against what's on paper.
Comics > Interviews.

Going back, they would have told you hypertime wasn't continuity either, but it certainly is, and has been part of stories as recent as a couple months ago.
And as we all know, the ELSEWORLDS title of Kingdom Come, through The Kingdom, was linked to current continuity through hypertime... which is currently canon, but was considered not a few years ago.


A lot of this has to do with the current editorial staff being the guys who ushered in the idea of bringing back the multiverses.

Well I guess, but I belive there was a lot of PIS in i as well, the 6th dimensional imp's for instance was playing with the 5th's as pawns.
Mxyztplk didnt even come close to a 6th imp's power.

Yet he destroyed all that was, even the 6th realm?

It goes against all logic. The Source and the Voice then, was they left?

Originally posted by Galan007
Mxy and Joker with Bat-Mite's power played a game of chess, where each piece represented an actual being in the DCU...

And each movement Joker and Mxy made, corresponded with a movement said character(s) had to make:

http://i83.imagethrust.com/t/1003600/ds1.jpg http://i84.imagethrust.com/t/1003601/ds2.jpg


Note that some of the "chess pieces" Mxy and Joker are playing with include the likes of Batman, Superman, Metron, and even Darkseid himself.
Hehe, the chess pawns are hero clix, but named hero mxy instead

It can't be said whether or not the story is canon.
But ELSEWORLDS definately are, as different universes in the multiverse, as currently written. A few of them melded into current main DCU continuity, when Alexander was playing with the universes, trying to make a perfect one.

Originally posted by Juntai
It can't be said whether or not the story is canon.
But ELSEWORLDS definately are, as different universes in the multiverse, as currently written. A few of them melded into current main DCU continuity, when Alexander was playing with the universes, trying to make a perfect one.
As long as it's part of else worlds, and else worlds is part of the kingdom, and the kingdom is cannonical to the Main DCU, then the story is as cannon as it can get. But it doesn't matter becuz no one remembers it happening but the spectre anyway.

I was not doubting wether is canon or not, I was doubting that Mxyztplk actually can do that, I belive it was a lot of PIS involved.
The imp's of the 5th are not so far up in the hierarchy.
The imp's of the 6th played with them as if they were pawns.
The 8th dimensional imp's was as well stated to be above them.
And the 10th, Ultimator, was above him as well.
Then we have the Source, Voice and Logos ect.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
I was not doubting wether is canon or not, I was doubting that Mxyztplk actually can do that, I belive it was a lot of PIS involved.
The imp's of the 5th are not so far up in the hierarchy.
The imp's of the 6th played with them as if they were pawns.
The 8th dimensional imp's was as well stated to be above them.
And the 10th, Ultimator, was above him as well.
Then we have the Source, Voice and Logos ect.

Wiping away all of DC would not include Heaven. Heaven was never shown in The arc. And I don't remember anything above the 5th being shown either. He wiped away everything from the 5th on down.

I understand that you guys want to argue about this, get it figured out, whatever....but that's not very respectful if you get my drift.

It'd be nice if you could take it to the comics forum. .

Originally posted by Soljer
I understand that you guys want to argue about this, get it figured out, whatever....but that's not very respectful if you get my drift.

It'd be nice if you could take it to the comics forum. .

I'm trying to argue for the respect. I'm trying to NOT let anyone downgrade the feat.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I'm trying to argue for the respect. I'm trying to NOT let anyone downgrade the feat.

Regardless, Nvr. Respect threads aren't the place for arguments or discussions, period.

Originally posted by Soljer
Regardless, Nvr. Respect threads aren't the place for arguments or discussions, period.

My bad. I was only entering what I saw was a conversation between MM and G.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
As long as it's part of else worlds, and else worlds is part of the kingdom, and the kingdom is cannonical to the Main DCU, then the story is as cannon as it can get.

Originally posted by Validus


I love the funny face. But galan and juntai have both said the same thing. Please give them both that funny face.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I love the funny face. But galan and juntai have both said the same thing. Please give them both that funny face.
I would if I had seen them say it.

Originally posted by Validus
I would if I had seen them say it.

The logic is infallible. Elseworlds are all cannon becuz of IC and the Kingdom. The Kingdom and IC are cannon to the Main DCU. Ergo, the story is cannon.

I know Elseworlds are canon but what does the Kingdom have to do with anything in regards to proving that?

Originally posted by Validus
I know Elseworlds are canon but what does the Kingdom have to do with anything in regards to proving that?

The Kingdom, is the Multiverse that Houses the Elseworlds and makes them actual realities. They were shown in the Kingdom book.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The Kingdom, is the Multiverse that Houses the Elseworlds and makes them actual realities. They were shown in the Kingdom book. Uhh... No.
I think you meant to say.
The Kingdom introduced hypertime and connected Elseworlds and DCU.

Emperor Joker becomes the Spectre:

http://i80.imagethrust.com/t/1114617/ej1.jpg http://i80.imagethrust.com/t/1114618/ej2.jpg http://i80.imagethrust.com/t/1114619/ej3.jpg

Emperor Joker remade Hell, according to his own conception of it:

http://i80.imagethrust.com/t/1116918/ej1.jpg http://i79.imagethrust.com/t/1116919/ej2.jpg

Originally posted by Galan007
Emperor Joker remade Hell, according to his own conception of it:

http://i80.imagethrust.com/t/1116918/ej1.jpg http://i79.imagethrust.com/t/1116919/ej2.jpg
But at the last scan it says that Joker only had remade one reality's hell.
No offence, but could you quote (or repost) the scan's which say's he's Multiversal or have Multiversal influence.

In the 5th Dimension beings from the 3rd Dimension have zero depth

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/8271/79640754si2.th.jpg
http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/9351/36943551jg7.th.jpghttp://img259.imageshack.us/img259/5945/18214983he0.th.jpg

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
But at the last scan it says that Joker only had remade one reality's hell.
No offence, but could you quote (or repost) the scan's which say's he's Multiversal or have Multiversal influence. No offence, but you seem to take a long time to comprehend things..


Joker never attempted to warp more then one reality in it's entirety, .

But the power he possessed was Multiversal in nature, that much is clear IMO.

Originally posted by Galan007
No offence, but you seem to take a long time to comprehend things..

No, there is a differance in accepting and comperhend.
Mxyztplk have both shown restriction's and access to omnipotence.
Now it's only to separate PIS from what's canon.


So we have no feats of this ...


I doubt that the Worlds funnest actaully were canon, especialy since the issue that says that hypertime is canon is non-canon itself.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
No, there is a differance in accepting and comperhend.
Mxyztplk have both shown restriction's and access to omnipotence.
Now it's only to separate PIS from what's canon. A respect thread is not the place to demean feats, and post your hate for a character, so let's take this elsewhere if need be.
Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
So we have no feats of this ... Of him warping reality?

Dude, they're all over this thread.
Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
I doubt that the Worlds funnest actaully were canon, especialy since the issue that says that hypertime is canon is non-canon itself.

WF is canon, Hypertime is what makes me sure of that.

Weren't all Elseworlds made into altnerate Earths as of Infinite Crisis?\

And I've heard there is more than one Mxy. One for each reality. Has this been retconned?

http://i80.imagethrust.com/images/4FXI/view-image/ej-2.html


"not just your earth--not just you universeuniverse but everything that is, was, or will be"

Hey all. Just a request.

http://img236.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sfunnest60aj3.jpg

This is the scan he destroyed all the DCU, right? i have bad eyesight to begin with and so i saved the pic to try and read the text but it's all just really blurry and crap when you Zoom In.

Can anyone get a better scan or just tell me what in teh scan says it was all of DCU? I mean, does it say "all mainstream DC, all Vertigo, all is erased" or something?

Mr. Master accepted he destroyed all of DCU so I'm wondering if this scan is why.

"Heh... ha.... aaaa.... ....My will be done. Happy now, Bat - Mite? Because that's it. There ain't no more. No more infinite earths.... no more alternative universes. No more pasts, no more futures.... no more superdopes. No more anything.... except for you. And me.... and this magic bomb I've been saving as a surprise! Nighty - Nite, Mite! It's been lousy knowing you! Bwa ha ha - heh....

Alright. Thanks, Mike.

No problem.

Originally posted by Nikkolas
Hey all. Just a request.

http://img236.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sfunnest60aj3.jpg

This is the scan he destroyed all the DCU, right? i have bad eyesight to begin with and so i saved the pic to try and read the text but it's all just really blurry and crap when you Zoom In.

People can be such asses, posting unreadable scan's.
I who have perfect eye sight do have trouble reading them as well, well it might be that my computor monitor suck's, anyways, here is a better one.

http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/5573/sfunnest57ez5op2.th.jpg
EDIT: WRONG SCAN

http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/8563/sfunnest60gz3ki8.th.jpg
THAT'S THE ONE


Not really, Mr Master said that he did just destroy the Multiverse.

He said this


Appearently this was only affecting the Multiverse.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Not really, Mr Master said that he did just destroy the Multiverse.

He said this

Appearently this was only affecting the Multiverse.

I must concede T,

that Mxy did destroy all of DC, which was a single Multiverse according to WF.


What DC was before WF or after WF is inconsequential to me.

In World's Funnest, the totality of DC is a Multiverse, and Mxy erased it.

According to the Kingdom, DC is a single Multiverse called Hypertime.


That's what I read, but I heard Lucifer created a Multiverse, so ... shrug

perhaps LCF's creation is disconnected from the actual DC Multiverse/Hypertime.



I'm sure brother G will fill in the blanks.

Originally posted by Mr Master
I must concede T,

that Mxy did destroy all of DC, which was a single Multiverse according to WF.


What DC was before WF or after WF is inconsequential to me.

In World's Funnest, the totality of DC is a Multiverse, and Mxy erased it.

According to the Kingdom, DC is a single Multiverse called Hypertime.Mxy destroyed the mainstream DCU, .

Mxy destroyed Elseworlds, .

Mxy destroyed the "fourth world", .

Mxy destroyed the DC animated "verse", .


Originally posted by Mr Master
That's what I read, but I heard Lucifer created a Multiverse, so ... shrug

perhaps LCF's creation is disconnected from the actual DC Multiverse/Hypertime.



I'm sure brother G will fill in the blanks. Meh,

Lucifer's Multiverse had nothing to do with WF.

Originally posted by Galan007
Mxy destroyed the mainstream DCU, .

Mxy destroyed Elseworlds, .

Mxy destroyed the "fourth world", .

Mxy destroyed the DC animated "verse", .

According to World's Funnest, it was ONE Multiverse:

http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/2970/mxymultipe5ac5.th.jpg




So what does this mean?


"No more Infinite Earths, no more Alternate Universes"

http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/9692/sfunnest60aj3.th.jpg




This means Hypertime:

http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/3241/h1kp6.th.jpg

http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/3790/h2zn3.th.jpg

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/2398/29141982td0.th.jpg

"Hypertime,

Parallel Timelines which comprise All Reality ...

the Universe they (the Linear Men) oversee is actually Part of a Multiverse,

(Hypertime) an Infinite Realm of Parallel Worlds"





Whether DC is more than that now is another issue,

in World's Funnest, Mxy erased One Multiverse, this One Multiverse was All of DC,

in THIS particular comic.

Originally posted by Mr Master
According to World's Funnest, it was ONE Multiverse:

http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/2970/mxymultipe5ac5.th.jpg




So what does this mean?


"No more Infinite Earths, no more Alternate Universes"

http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/9692/sfunnest60aj3.th.jpg




This means Hypertime:

http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/3241/h1kp6.th.jpg

http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/3790/h2zn3.th.jpg

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/2398/29141982td0.th.jpg

"Hypertime,

Parallel Timelines which comprise All Reality ...

the Universe they (the Linear Men) oversee is actually Part of a Multiverse,

(Hypertime) an Infinite Realm of Parallel Worlds"





Whether DC is more than that now is another issue,

in World's Funnest, Mxy erased One Multiverse, this One Multiverse was All of DC. Hmmm,

I guess you didn't read what I posted.



Whatever...

A RESPECT thread is hardly the place for this kind of thing.

Originally posted by Galan007
Hmmm,

I guess you didn't read what I posted.

I read what you posted,

doesn't mean it will change the on panel evidence though.


Like I said, I conceded it was ALL of DC Mxy erased,

but ALL of DC was a Multiverse IN World's Funnest.

Originally posted by Galan007
Whatever...

A RESPECT thread is hardly the place for this kind of thing.

Cool,

I wasn't debating the Fact, because there is no debating it, I was just pointing it out.

I thought it would have been appreciated, the clarification, my bad.

Originally posted by Mr Master
I read what you posted,

doesn't mean it will change the on panel evidence though.


Like I said, I conceded it was ALL of DC Mxy erased,

but ALL of DC was a Multiverse IN World's Funnest. You keep thinking that.

Originally posted by Galan007
You keep thinking that.

I will,

until On Panel evidence surfaces from World's Funnest that says otherwise.

I read WF thoroughly, good luck

Originally posted by Mr Master
I will,

until On Panel evidence surfaces from World's Funnest that says otherwise.

I read WF thoroughly, good luck Ummm, so are you going to keep up with the spam?


You have an opinion, but a RESPECT thread is not the place to keep rambling on and on about it.



You seem to get quite frustrated when people spam your threads, so imagine how the guy who started this thread feels.... It's called common courtesy bud.


Keep the spam out of here.

Originally posted by Galan007
Ummm, so are you going to keep up with the spam?

You keep replying to my posts,

I thought you wanted to proceed.

Originally posted by Galan007
You have an opinion, but a RESPECT thread is not the place to keep rambling on and on about it.

Who's rambling?

My name was used as a foundation for an opinion by T,

I simply clarified what was posted about what I said somewhere else.

Originally posted by Galan007
You seem to get quite frustrated when people spam your threads, so imagine how the guy who started this thread feels.... It's called common courtesy bud.

Keep the spam out of here.

I never spammed anything.

I was responding to your REPLIES!

I don't think I ever posted an opinion in this thread dude, I don't care what's being posted in any Respect thread, because they are misleading IMO. I was responding to a Post that included MY NAME.

Then you replied to that post and I replied back,



Now don't reply to this post,

because even though I'm responding to Your Post, which is also "common courtesy"

it's probably being considered "spam" ...

Originally posted by Mr Master
You keep replying to my posts,

I thought you wanted to proceed. Well I don't, so this really needs to stop.



-Thanks.

This should be sort of interesting...



These next scans will showcase every place Mxy and Bat-Mite visited/destroyed during "World's Funnest"....



Earth1:
http://i80.imagethrust.com/t/1161123/m1.jpg


The Phantom Zone:
http://i79.imagethrust.com/t/1161124/m2.jpg


Earth 2:
http://i79.imagethrust.com/t/1161125/m3.jpg


Earth 3:
http://i80.imagethrust.com/t/1161126/m4.jpg


Earth X:
http://i79.imagethrust.com/t/1161127/m5.jpg


Earth S:
http://i79.imagethrust.com/t/1161128/m6.jpg


Earth C:
http://i80.imagethrust.com/t/1161129/m7.jpg


Our Reality:
http://i80.imagethrust.com/t/1161131/m8.jpg


The 5th Dimension:
http://i80.imagethrust.com/t/1161133/m9.jpg


(Continues)

Jack Kirby's Fourth World:
http://i80.imagethrust.com/t/1161152/m10.jpg


The Super Friends:
http://i79.imagethrust.com/t/1161153/m11.jpg


The DCAU:
http://i80.imagethrust.com/t/1161154/m12.jpg


Batman: The Dark Knight Returns:
http://i79.imagethrust.com/t/1161155/m13.jpg


The Modern DCU:
http://i80.imagethrust.com/t/1161156/m14.jpg


Crisis on Infinite Earths:
http://i79.imagethrust.com/t/1161157/m15.jpg


Rip Hunter, DC's Western Heroes, Enemy Ace, Earth 4:
http://i80.imagethrust.com/t/1161158/m16.jpg


Gem World, Heaven, Sgt. Rock, Earth K:
http://i79.imagethrust.com/t/1161159/m17.jpg


(Continues)

Space Cabbie, Tangent, 'Mazing Man:
http://i79.imagethrust.com/t/1161160/m18.jpg


Sugar and Spike, Stanley and His Monster, DC One Million, Warlord, Super-Turtle, Earth 12, Batman Beyond, O.M.A.C.:
http://i80.imagethrust.com/t/1161146/m19.jpg


Kingdom Come:
http://i79.imagethrust.com/t/1161147/m20.jpg


Beside Mxy and Bat-Mite, the only thing that survived their rampage was the helmet of KC's Flash :
http://i79.imagethrust.com/t/1161149/m21.jpg



That's all of 'em.... Respect:

galan_mr_mxyzptlk galan_bat_mite

Here is some canonical evidence that Mxy can crossover into "other companies", ...


------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


In the top panel you can see "someone's" body stretching across the picture *cough*ReedRichards*cough*...


Mxy then says..


"Here I am having fun with my new Fantastic friends":
http://i80.imagethrust.com/t/1185059/mxy1.jpg


------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Mxy, says..


"I had a backlog of mayhem in another dimension"
http://i79.imagethrust.com/t/1185060/mxy2.jpg


------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


"I'm so desperate to get back to that other Fun World, that I'm going to help Supey":
http://i79.imagethrust.com/t/1185061/mxy3.jpg


------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Mxy then uses the line..


"It's Blubbering Time!":
http://i80.imagethrust.com/t/1185062/mxy4.jpg

?


------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Now, after Mxy helped Superman he says..


"Back to my Four new friends"..

"It's almost Impossible to remember what I look like from world to world"..

Mxy then transforms into a being that bares a striking similarity to Marvel's Impossible Man..


And in the middle panel we see the lower half of three characters who look very much like the Human Torch, Reed, and Sue.... Walking away, ignoring Mxy/Impossible Man:
http://i79.imagethrust.com/t/1185063/mxy5.jpg


------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


So Mxy can not only crossover into other companies, but he can do so without infringing on any copyright laws ...

Marvel and DC often hint very strongly that Mxy and Impossible man are the same enitity.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Marvel and DC often hint very strongly that Mxy and Impossible man are the same enitity. The story those scans came from certainly make it seem so.

I'm sorry if the argument ended a while ago, but has anyone else noticed the evidence that the recent portrayals of Mxyzptlk, i.e. The Ruin Revealed trade and the concerning arc weren't that of Mxyzptlk but Earth-2's Mxyztplk?

As shown in 52 and One Year Later, The DC multiverse still and has been existing, rather you call it a multiverse or Hypertime.

Kal-L survived the crisis and if the multiverse survived it as well, so did the alternate version of the Fifth Dimension where the imps were weaker than Mxyzptlk's race. It was shown constantly in pre-crisis that Mxyztplk's powers were in fact true magic and would be affected by high level magics and the drainings of magic, i.e. Day of Vengeance.

Also, we look at Mxyztplk's demeanor. He was a kind, playful sort of fellow who saw himself as a very good friend of Kal-L and tried to always do well by him in his bumbling mischief.

Was not this the imp who appeared in the comics prior to Infinite Crisis?

As shown by World's Funnest, The Emperor Joker arc, several Superman comics and Batman/Superman volume 4: Vengeance, Mxyzptlk is for all intents and purposes omnipotent and easily more powerful than any existing force in DC, including The Spectre.

The only being more powerful than him as shown in continuity is God Almighty, who infact is just who ever the current writer of the comic is at the time.


Sorry if I'm over stepping my bounds as a new member and sorry if all this was already discussed, simply wanted to say my piece.

Except that Impossible Man isn't anywhere near as powerful as Mxy.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Except that Impossible Man isn't anywhere near as powerful as Mxy.

In his better showings,

Impossible Man once threatened the Omniverse,

just by creating a duplicate Earth with every hero and villain past and present,

this creation was unbalancing existence across the Universes.

Originally posted by Mr.Mxyzptlk
I'm sorry if the argument ended a while ago, but has anyone else noticed the evidence that the recent portrayals of Mxyzptlk, i.e. The Ruin Revealed trade and the concerning arc weren't that of Mxyzptlk but Earth-2's Mxyztplk?

As shown in 52 and One Year Later, The DC multiverse still and has been existing, rather you call it a multiverse or Hypertime.

Kal-L survived the crisis and if the multiverse survived it as well, so did the alternate version of the Fifth Dimension where the imps were weaker than Mxyzptlk's race. It was shown constantly in pre-crisis that Mxyztplk's powers were in fact true magic and would be affected by high level magics and the drainings of magic, i.e. Day of Vengeance.

Also, we look at Mxyztplk's demeanor. He was a kind, playful sort of fellow who saw himself as a very good friend of Kal-L and tried to always do well by him in his bumbling mischief.

Was not this the imp who appeared in the comics prior to Infinite Crisis?

As shown by World's Funnest, The Emperor Joker arc, several Superman comics and Batman/Superman volume 4: Vengeance, Mxyzptlk is for all intents and purposes omnipotent and easily more powerful than any existing force in DC, including The Spectre.

The only being more powerful than him as shown in continuity is God Almighty, who infact is just who ever the current writer of the comic is at the time.


Sorry if I'm over stepping my bounds as a new member and sorry if all this was already discussed, simply wanted to say my piece. Mxy from all those stories, are one and the same.

Originally posted by Juntai
Mxy from all those stories, are one and the same.

Can you prove that? No.

And my Theory still holds sound. The recent portrayals of Mxyzptlk have been more of those like Mxyztplk. And since in Pre-crisis there were two Fifth Dimensions, it stands in post-crisis.

Though World's Funnest shows many good feats for Mxy, one single comic that wasn't followed up does not wipe out years of continuity.

Originally posted by Mr.Mxyzptlk
Can you prove that? No.

And my Theory still holds sound. The recent portrayals of Mxyzptlk have been more of those like Mxyztplk. And since in Pre-crisis there were two Fifth Dimensions, it stands in post-crisis.

Though World's Funnest shows many good feats for Mxy, one single comic that wasn't followed up does not wipe out years of continuity. Because there was only one universe and one 5th dimension through the course of that time period. The multiverse hadn't opened back up yet. Continuity purely disproves of your theory wholeheartedly, while you've got absolutely nothing at all to back up what you're saying except opinion. Also, check out the name they say backwards to go back to the 5th dimension.

And for the record, about your other post, the OYL later/52 Multiverse, is not the same multiverse. That multiverse actually comes into existance during that storyline. As Rip Hunter described watching the Earth replicate itself.

Originally posted by Juntai
And for the record, about your other post, the OYL later/52 Multiverse, is not the same multiverse. That multiverse actually comes into existance during that storyline. As Rip Hunter described watching the Earth replicate itself.

It's still connected to Hypertime and The Bleed, both of which existed before 52 and OYL, the first basically the original multi-verse under the same name.

Originally posted by Juntai
Because there was only one universe and one 5th dimension through the course of that time period. The multiverse hadn't opened back up yet. Continuity purely disproves of your theory wholeheartedly, while you've got absolutely nothing at all to back up what you're saying except opinion. Also, check out the name they say backwards to go back to the 5th dimension.

Hypertime existed before that point and was connected to the original multiverse.

And my theory is not pure speculation. That was exactly how Mxyztplk acted. The two versions were contrasted because one was a kind magic user and the other was a psychotic jester who could switch to a near mass murderer in a heart beat.

The portrayal of Mxy just before the Ruin Revealed arc and during the arc went completely against how Mxyzptlk had been portrayed in Pre-Crisis and Post Crisis DC.

Originally posted by Mr.Mxyzptlk
I'm sorry if the argument ended a while ago, but has anyone else noticed the evidence that the recent portrayals of Mxyzptlk, i.e. The Ruin Revealed trade and the concerning arc weren't that of Mxyzptlk but Earth-2's Mxyztplk?

As shown in 52 and One Year Later, The DC multiverse still and has been existing, rather you call it a multiverse or Hypertime.

Kal-L survived the crisis and if the multiverse survived it as well, so did the alternate version of the Fifth Dimension where the imps were weaker than Mxyzptlk's race. It was shown constantly in pre-crisis that Mxyztplk's powers were in fact true magic and would be affected by high level magics and the drainings of magic, i.e. Day of Vengeance.

Also, we look at Mxyztplk's demeanor. He was a kind, playful sort of fellow who saw himself as a very good friend of Kal-L and tried to always do well by him in his bumbling mischief.

Was not this the imp who appeared in the comics prior to Infinite Crisis?

As shown by World's Funnest, The Emperor Joker arc, several Superman comics and Batman/Superman volume 4: Vengeance, Mxyzptlk is for all intents and purposes omnipotent and easily more powerful than any existing force in DC, including The Spectre.

The only being more powerful than him as shown in continuity is God Almighty , who infact is just who ever the current writer of the comic is at the time.


Sorry if I'm over stepping my bounds as a new member and sorry if all this was already discussed, simply wanted to say my piece.

I know that this is a respect thread and all, but bullshit does not equal respect.

Boy I love when scans get burried under opinions in a RESPECT thread.

Originally posted by Galan007
Boy I love when scans get burried under opinions in a RESPECT thread.
Unlike your respect threads, the creator of this one didn't make any rules for spamming and so forth.

Originally posted by Mr.Mxyzptlk
I'm sorry if the argument ended a while ago, but has anyone else noticed the evidence that the recent portrayals of Mxyzptlk, i.e. The Ruin Revealed trade and the concerning arc weren't that of Mxyzptlk but Earth-2's Mxyztplk?

As shown in 52 and One Year Later, The DC multiverse still and has been existing, rather you call it a multiverse or Hypertime.

Kal-L survived the crisis and if the multiverse survived it as well, so did the alternate version of the Fifth Dimension where the imps were weaker than Mxyzptlk's race. It was shown constantly in pre-crisis that Mxyztplk's powers were in fact true magic and would be affected by high level magics and the drainings of magic, i.e. Day of Vengeance.

Also, we look at Mxyztplk's demeanor. He was a kind, playful sort of fellow who saw himself as a very good friend of Kal-L and tried to always do well by him in his bumbling mischief.

Was not this the imp who appeared in the comics prior to Infinite Crisis?

As shown by World's Funnest, The Emperor Joker arc, several Superman comics and Batman/Superman volume 4: Vengeance, Mxyzptlk is for all intents and purposes omnipotent and easily more powerful than any existing force in DC, including The Spectre.

The only being more powerful than him as shown in continuity is God Almighty, who infact is just who ever the current writer of the comic is at the time.


Sorry if I'm over stepping my bounds as a new member and sorry if all this was already discussed, simply wanted to say my piece.

Mxy is not more powerful then The Spectre.. A hostless Spectre is what The Wrath really is. In DOV you can see it clearly The Spectre>Mxy. A hosted/Spectre can be fooled and tricked. The Multiverse was also talked about during OWAW, and Hampton said it could return. About Emporer Joker having Mxys powers, it was showed he took over hell, but also it was one version of Hell that was shown. The Joker didn't even have the keys, and if he tried Duma or Remiel would have smacked him down hard..l

Originally posted by kevdude
Mxy is not more powerful then The Spectre.. A hostless Spectre is what The Wrath really is. In DOV you can see it clearly The Spectre>Mxy. A hosted/Spectre can be fooled and tricked. The Multiverse was also talked about during OWAW, and Hampton said it could return. About Emporer Joker having Mxys powers, it was showed he took over hell, but also it was one version of Hell that was shown. The Joker didn't even have the keys, and if he tried Duma or Remiel would have smacked him down hard..l

I'm as of now reading through the Spectre respect thread and I have yet to see anything that even comes close to the feats attributed to Mxyzptlk.

Mxy has, in his tenure as a character, as well as those using his powers done the following:

-Displayed knowledge past the fourth wall and of our world. (Witnessed multiple times in several comics, shown specifically in Superman/Batman: Vengeance and Emperor Joker)

-Created entirely separate Universes with pastiches of other company's characters (Superman/Batman: Vengeance)

-Changed the view of logic of at least one entire planet.
(Emperor Joker)

-Effortlessly deafeated and manipulated God level entities. (Shown cased through several comics, more specific Emperor Joker)

-Retconed an existing Universe (Tenure as the Mxy twins)

-Gave existing characters access to Hypertime (Superman/Batman: Vengeance)

-Showed knowledge of Pre-Crisis Events (World's Funnest, Emperor Joker, Superman/Batman: Vengeance)

-Eliminated existing fundamental forces of existence (Mxy twins)

I know the Spectre is powerful, but has he ever shown anything near Mxy, i.e. retconning and creating parallel realities?

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
I know that this is a respect thread and all, but bullshit does not equal respect.

Prove it's