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Miroku Herko
This going to sound gay but this is for mostly for people who are girls likes boys and afended



they show girls asses and boobs but no man parts what do you think in anime/manga of corse....

Kayne Archeron
well, they show guy chests and guy asses sometimes... anything else a person would want to see on a guy generally isn't as interesting as what a girl has

Miroku Herko
well cheast is not becose both sex have it and they show half of the males butt and some girl want to see the thing below the belt and some show the womens blow the belt get it...........

Bardiel13
Originally posted by Miroku Herko
well cheast is not becose both sex have it and they show half of the males butt and some girl want to see the thing below the belt and some show the womens blow the belt get it...........

You want me to put it plain?
Girls are not nearly as perverse as guys. When a guy is involved in fanservice, whatever. The reader (probably female) just wants to see effeminate men save the girl who's probably hotter than the reader will ever be. Afterwards, they cuddle.
When it's a girl, guys go "Oh-ho-HO! Boobies! I'm buying this!"
Sex sells and girls don't buy that often.

King Kandy
Originally posted by Bardiel13
You want me to put it plain?
Girls are not nearly as perverse as guys. When a guy is involved in fanservice, whatever. The reader (probably female) just wants to see effeminate men save the girl who's probably hotter than the reader will ever be. Afterwards, they cuddle.
When it's a girl, guys go "Oh-ho-HO! Boobies! I'm buying this!"
Sex sells and girls don't buy that often.
Agreed.

There are plenty of Hentai's with male nudity.

Avenger2.0
I don't think that I have seen any non-restricted anime that has showed the lower genitals of women. But I imagine the reason is that the female genitals are more inside their body(not much to see unless you zoom and rotate camera etc), but the male genitals are in plain view always dangling free and virtually impossible not to notice.

Miroku Herko
yah but isn't that the point how many anime/manga show the males thing and don't cover it up with nothing

TricksterPriest
I see where you're coming from. And I do agree, there is a definite sexist element. However, I fail to see a problem with the current setup. big grin And I have yet to hear of a non-hentai manga or anime with full frontal male nudity. Rear nudity, yes. frontal, no. Also, women's bodies are much more aesthetically pleasing regardless of persuasion. Women's bodies can be works of art. Mens, far less so. But then, I'm hetero, so my opinion on that is no doubt biased.

Bardiel13
Didn't you guys read my post? It's not a sexist element. Girls don't want too see penis as much as guys wanna see boobs. That's it. In fact, there are women in the world that find the male fallus unattractive. Ever hear about a guy who didn't love a nice rack? Me neither.

Miroku Herko
Yah but it is still sexist becouse they explude women....how would you like it if a show was base on you and some other guys and only cover the men and not the girls thinks for a bit and you guys will know what I mean

Bardiel13
Originally posted by Miroku Herko
Yah but it is still sexist becouse they explude women....how would you like it if a show was base on you and some other guys and only cover the men and not the girls thinks for a bit and you guys will know what I mean

It's a drawing. Drawing do not exploit people. And I cannot understand a word you are saying. Is English your first language?
I told you, already. They don't care if it's equal. Most women don't even want to see penises, anyway. Guy, however, want to see as much nudity as possible. I'm sorry, but that's just how the market works. If you want to see more wangs, go read a yaoi manga, I hear they're quite popular.

King Kandy
If all your looking for is naked men, go get a Hentai.

Miroku Herko
yah but still it is sexist and that just prove that men and women who draw it is sexist....

Gregory
I, uh, can't think of many mainstream anime with full-frontal female nudity.

Also, you may or may not know this, but most shows are, in fact, targetted towards certain sexes and age ranges. It's pretty silly to watch a show aimed at teenage boys and complain that it doesn't have male nudity. If you want male nudity, the entire yaoi genre, for example, is aimed at women.

Bardiel13
Originally posted by Miroku Herko
yah but still it is sexist and that just prove that men and women who draw it is sexist....

There is a difference between sexism and marketing. Believe me, I take a class on it. Once again, if you want more male nudity go get a yaoi manga and hush erm

King Kandy
Why would the young men genre of manga have naked men? That's not what the buyers are looking for. In mangas for women, they are more prevailent, and in yaoi and hentai, even more so.

Captain SEX
Originally posted by Miroku Herko
yah but still it is sexist and that just prove that men and women who draw it is sexist....

It's not sexist if SOCIETY would rather see boobs then penises. "sexism" is a social term, and society a sa whole would rather see naked Women. Theirs no point in calling it sexist.

Miroku Herko
every I'm not saying I want to see penis but I got a girlfriend and she said what she said you guy wrote what you guys post but we all have different opinion ok I do see what guys are saying but to me and her are right in our mind and our way of thinking

Gregory
You're right "in your mind?" Meaning what, exactly? Either they're sexist or they're not.

("Bear my children," incidently)

Bardiel13
Why is this thread still going on? I already answered the question to why boobies are more prevailant...

Miroku Herko
you dont have to be in here you know

Gregory
No, seriously; I don't normally point this stuff out, but that is one creepy typo.

Bardiel13
Originally posted by Miroku Herko
you dont have to be in here you know

I know, but I don't think there's much more to discuss, eh?

Avenger2.0
Contrary to what you beliave the statement that you have reiteratered continuosly, our statement is your opinion not fact.

Bardiel13
Originally posted by Avenger2.0
Contrary to what you beliave the statement that you have reiteratered continuosly, our statement is your opinion not fact.

As an extension of sentence, I shall inquire, what, per say, demands further discussion of this standing topic that is presented, that I, Bardiel J. Thirteen, has neglected to discuss and solve with my opinion fortified with experience, more so than the middle school-aged poster of this topic, whom I have enlightened with FACT, regarding marketing?

Captain SEX
Originally posted by Miroku Herko
every I'm not saying I want to see penis but I got a girlfriend and she said what she said you guy wrote what you guys post but we all have different opinion ok I do see what guys are saying but to me and her are right in our mind and our way of thinking

If it's your opinion, and you're not open to other opinions, then don't bother making a thread about it.

Bardiel13
Originally posted by Captain SEX
If it's your opinion, and you're not open to other opinions, then don't bother making a thread about it.

On top of that, you gotta work on your English. Better pay a visit to Gunther the Grammar Nazi, Alexi the Spelling Terrorist, and Earl the Punctuation Klansman. yes

Adult Swim Guy
well i know alot of girls who like to see penis

Bardiel13
Originally posted by Adult Swim Guy
well i know alot of girls who like to see penis

Good for them.
A poll in Japan has already told that most Japanese women age ranging from 16-35 do not find the penis as attractive as men find the breasts and female genitalia attractive.
So, there you have it.

Avenger2.0
Think close about the anime that you have seem this content in I think that you find that the Series is probably already aimed at the male viewers even if there was no nudity.

This will probably sound sexist but what percentage of the female population would be interested in anime that has chicks in tight outfits, limbs being ripped off, scorcers and demons and knights and stuff.

Bardiel13
Originally posted by Avenger2.0
Think close about the anime that you have seem this content in I think that you find that the Series is probably already aimed at the male viewers even if there was no nudity.

This will probably sound sexist but what percentage of the female population would be interested in anime that has chicks in tight outfits, limbs being ripped off, scorcers and demons and knights and stuff.

You're not sounding sexist. It is how marketing works. The guys at the animation companies ask themselves, "What are young Japanese males into?" They check polls, internet, and experience from their children. Well, it turns out they want girls in tight clothes with big swords, fighting dragons- maybe even some lesbian innuendo. Then, they make it happen.

Bardiel13
Also, the same works with girls. They find out what Japanese girls like. Usually effeminate pretty boys goes on a journey with an equally pretty girl, stuff happens, they fall in love, the end. Most Japanese girls aren't all that excited with seeing penis, however male nudity is uncommon- neither is female.

Avenger2.0
Lesbians eek!

Bardiel13
Originally posted by Avenger2.0
Lesbians eek!

Hermaphrodites! eek!

But, that is beside the point.

Gregory
Oh, and Japan is not the United States. That's another thing you should remember. It is not being catered to an American audience. Japan has different standards (ever wonder why the men are all so feminine in shoujo anime? It's a cultural thing). Where all this is going is that what you and your friends want to see in anime really doesn't matter; it's not being marketed towards you.

Miroku Herko
wow you guys do your homeworkJumpy

Adult Swim Guy
and alot of japines people are gay to so hmmmm

Lana
Originally posted by Miroku Herko
wow you guys do your homeworkJumpy

Yeah, generally a good thing to do - to know what you're talking about.

Think about this one as well - many woman also like looking at the female body. It's definitely not something only men like. And I'm not talking about lesbian women, either, but straight women as well.

And there is male nudity and anime and manga; you just obviously aren't looking for it. It's not anything that will ever be in mainstream anime aired in the US.

Bardiel13
Originally posted by Miroku Herko
wow you guys do your homeworkJumpy

The problem was, that you're young and porbably haven't taken any classes on business. Lucky for me, I take one of the only Entertainment Business classes in the United States.

But, honestly... wouldn't that fact be a little bit obvious? erm

Miroku Herko
yeah i I'm not young OK and i know more about sex ed then anything so i know what is a vagina and penis ok

Lana
You're 14. You're still young and a kid.

Bardiel13
Originally posted by Lana
You're 14. You're still young and a kid.

Indeed.

Miroku Herko
don't be jealous you old man and ancient hag be you don't have the beauty of a young TEENAGER

Gregory
Lana is twenty years old, by her profile. It must be sad for you, to think that in only six years you'll be an old hag like her. Don't worry, though; by then, you'll probably have matured a little.

Kayne Archeron
Originally posted by Miroku Herko
don't be jealous you old man and ancient hag be you don't have the beauty of a young TEENAGER

at least we still retain our intelligence wink

and being right in your own mind means nothing if you're wrong

Bardiel13
Originally posted by Miroku Herko
don't be jealous you old man and ancient hag be you don't have the beauty of a young TEENAGER

Who said I was not a young teenager? Just not young as you.
Don't be jealous that I know more about the topic than you. wink

Lana
Originally posted by Miroku Herko
don't be jealous you old man and ancient hag be you don't have the beauty of a young TEENAGER

Sorry kid, you've got nothing to be jealous of.

I love how people react when they know they've been beaten.

Captain SEX
Like cornered animals.

Gregory
Well, she's young yet. We were all young and stupid once. Some, admittedly, more so then others.

konte66
ok wait im confused do u want ppl to put up pictures of guys or girls?!?!?
erm

Captain SEX
Both.

no expression

Miroku Herko
Screw you guys I'm going home ...wait I can'tcrybaby

konte66
so what like yoai and yuri?

Bardiel13
Originally posted by konte66
so what like yoai and yuri?

This isn't about pictures. Where did you get the idea?

boobsmagee
well it probably doesnt look right to draw a guy, lol when u saw baby gohan naked, i mean really he had a lil stubb, i dont think msot ppl watch anime for the nude aspect yes it happens, but :/ if truly love anime u dont see it as a porno, and its easier to draw a female's body than it is a mans from what i see, lol , but truthfully i wouldnt spend much time thinking about this, its not worth it

boobsmagee
oh i missed that fight thing w/e sorry for double post, its probably better to know about sex from expierience and real life than it is to have all your knowledge come from anime? am i right or am i right? smile

konte66
Originally posted by Bardiel13
This isn't about pictures. Where did you get the idea?

idk...............................................oh wait satan possed me!

Miroku Herko
Wait hold everything i was wrong they show men's butt but not girls that is where i mess up

Lana
No, actually, you're wrong there as well.

Bardiel13
But, it doesn't matter what it shows. It matters who cares that they show it.

konte66
i agree with that...

Kayne Archeron
Originally posted by Miroku Herko
Wait hold everything i was wrong they show men's butt but not girls that is where i mess up

watch Bible Black and tell me that

Bardiel13
Originally posted by Kayne Archeron
watch Bible Black and tell me that

That's pr0n. Of course, it'll show the mighty phallus.

Miroku Herko
yeah but your a boy and girls will thinks different then us

Kayne Archeron
Originally posted by Bardiel13
That's pr0n. Of course, it'll show the mighty phallus.

and girls with a phallus eek!

Bardiel13
Originally posted by Miroku Herko
yeah but your a boy and girls will thinks different then us

Exactly. Girls don't care so much about teh penis. So, what's the problem?

Miroku Herko
how do you know your not a girl ok and the girls might say that around you because you might thinks different of them

Bardiel13
Originally posted by Miroku Herko
how do you know your not a girl ok and the girls might say that around you because you might thinks different of them

You're thinking of why girls never admit they masturbate.

Plus, it has been proven. Guys are more sexual than girls. They always have been. Guys get turned on visually easier than girls, who are more touch-oriented.

Lana
Ehh, not always true.

Bardiel13
Originally posted by Lana
Ehh, not always true.

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n176/Bardiel3000/orly.jpg

Miroku Herko
your crazy talking about your own gender like that

Bardiel13
Originally posted by Miroku Herko
your crazy talking about your own gender like that

Like what? Talking about how we have much higher amounts of testosterone than women, which makes us more "sex-reliant"?

Miroku Herko
*sigh* its like talking to a broking record and I didn't mean anything about it

Bardiel13
Originally posted by Miroku Herko
*sigh* its like talking to a broking record and I didn't mean anything about it

Are you saying that I'm repeating too much? Well, I'd stop if you'd get the point- Guys are more attracted to the female form then females are to the male form. It's been proven with tests time and time again. That's the answer to the question.

Lana
Originally posted by Bardiel13
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n176/Bardiel3000/orly.jpg

Yeah really. I AM a fully grown female, you know stick out tongue

Bardiel13
Originally posted by Lana
Yeah really. I AM a fully grown female, you know stick out tongue

I'm sure. So tell me, how easily can you get ticked off, simply from how a guy looks or is dressed?

Lana
I prefer girls, I'll just leave it at that.

Miroku Herko
she dogged you out

Akira99
What I find sexist about anime is the way all male characters are portayed as perverted, weak, spineless dolts who pander to the needs of females whenever possible and accept any kind of mental and physical abuse from women without question - which is of course mirrored in our own society. All the female characters are portayed as virtous and strong compared to the male ones and are always right and even though there are many female dominated animes with only female cast the male dominated ones always have at least one irritating girl to make the lives of the men hell. Ok so girls are not as perverse as men but not all men are thinking of ogling the female body - they aren't that special only walking meatsacks like the rest of us. To put it bluntly I'd say anime is predominantly male-bashing and misandric and no-one has the balls to admit it due to our man is bad woman is good culture
I'll probably be flamed for this reply but up yours because someone needs to speak from the politically incorrect male point of view here.

Lana
I want to know what anime you're watching, where you come up with that conclusion.

Gregory
I'll bet he watches stuff by Takahishi; it sounds like her.

Bardiel13
Originally posted by Lana
I prefer girls, I'll just leave it at that.

Fine, let me rephrase:
Do you easily get ticked off to how a girl looks or is dressed?

Lana
I'm assuming 'ticked off' isn't the phrase you mean to use, as that means to get angry at someone.

But yes.

Bardiel13
Originally posted by Lana
I'm assuming 'ticked off' isn't the phrase you mean to use, as that means to get angry at someone.


Depends what area you're from. yes

Kayne Archeron
let's just all agree that sex is great

Miroku Herko
Originally posted by Bardiel13
Depends what area you're from. yes no it don't but how you've been raise

Bardiel13
Originally posted by Miroku Herko
no it don't but how you've been raise

Pretty much everyone in my town has used that term to discribe sexual arousal. Back to the topic.

Emperor Ashtar
I don't see any guys complaining when girls drool over bishie's wearing tight ass outfits, Typical double standard by women.


Originally posted by Akira99
What I find sexist about anime is the way all male characters are portayed as perverted, weak, spineless dolts who pander to the needs of females whenever possible and accept any kind of mental and physical abuse from women without question - which is of course mirrored in our own society. All the female characters are portayed as virtous and strong compared to the male ones and are always right and even though there are many female dominated animes with only female cast the male dominated ones always have at least one irritating girl to make the lives of the men hell. Ok so girls are not as perverse as men but not all men are thinking of ogling the female body - they aren't that special only walking meatsacks like the rest of us. To put it bluntly I'd say anime is predominantly male-bashing and misandric and no-one has the balls to admit it due to our man is bad woman is good culture
I'll probably be flamed for this reply but up yours because someone needs to speak from the politically incorrect male point of view here.

You deserve a standing ovation, but that doesn't really apply to anime.

Bigga Nigga420
Kinda! I see what he is talking about like in inuyasha!

leonheartmm
a lot of manga is still mail dominated as far as main character goes. on the other hand manga can be credited for showing a lot of girls as NOT SO VIRTUOUS, and slowly turning the quiet ones{which is thought of as unhealthy for girls in the neo japan culture and manga culture} to more vibrant and annouing ones. ofcourse one can say that the annoying school girl is a stereotype in japanese culture{also scantily clad} but its not a terribly sexist one. i do admit that we need more mainstream anime girls and main characters and perhaps showing guys naked as much as girls{although anime is far superior in that respect to cinema and western cartoons} and sensualized{manga, naruto guy/guy sex scence} lol.

leonheartmm
although maybe its cause of me being a male n all. i find it a little difficult to understand how to SENSUALIZE the male image{even of theyr naked} in the same way as a female, i mean they dont have the handsome proportions as the opposite sex, nor can they do the same submissive{i suppose they cud but i dont think society is really ready for it} acts as a girl. just a perspective of a male artist.

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