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"never been hit so hard in my life"

this line seems to pop up everytime a guy gets hit, it becomes pretty meaningless

bullet dodging

"I think I broke my hand/foot/arm/leg"

Clones

Strongest opponent I ever fought!

"It is inevitable"

I'm Batman!

" limitless potential"

The bad guy telling the good guy the whole "Master Plan"

"bub"

Comic Cliches

My favorites:

Whenever heroes meet for the first time they MUST fight.

Any character can be thrown through a brick wall and get back up.

Shooting energy from hands: especially when it's non-descript generic energy that can knock down a wall but doesn't kill anyone or electrocute anyone or start any fires in-and-of itself. Or give people cancer.

Making jokes while fighting. Only good with spiderman and deadpool.

All teams have a strong guy.

See The Body: The law that says that a character is never dead unless you saw the body, took it home, inspected it, did an autopsy, burned it, scattered the ashes from a plane, and even then you can be only about 89 percent sure.

The Woman/Girl in the Shower for No Reason: soap/steam/water always cover the naughty bits, but it's still soft core porn, if one's honest about it.

Originally posted by grey fox
Clones Co signed witht he exception of the Ultimate Spidey ongoing arc...

Capes. THEY MUST STOP!

Chics with huge chests.

Big upper body with skinny chicken legs.... That's you cartoon superman!

Originally posted by 8urs
All teams have a strong guy.

Except for the old Avengers team of Cap, Hawkeye, Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch... how did they survive anything?

Originally posted by Scoobless
Except for the old Avengers team of Cap, Hawkeye, Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch... how did they survive anything?

Ant-man is technically a strong guy....

Exception proves the rule.

Horrible childhoods. I want a hero that is the comic equaivalent of Ferris Bueller, for a change.

Also, anything that's "infinite" or "potentially limitless". For the sake of everyone's sanity, these terms should never be used.

Stupid plot children.

.......

Yes i'm talking about Vulcan.

Originally posted by Spideys Sister

Chics with huge chests.
Now thats a bit too far leave my comic knocker alone!

How about characters who die only to show up next year.
"Ted Korr-Blue Beetle" we will miss you, because you are one character who will "NEVER" return.

How Martial Artists manage to put Spidey on his ass.

Superman period.... What?lol....

How long Batman has managed to survive in the JL this long without dying.

Black Heroes coming off all hood n shit sometimes"We all dont sucumb to talking all ghetto"

In Marvel 616 Earth Only Important heirarchy make kids 2gther, like Magento's family tree spreads crazy, so does Reed Richard's family. Not to mention Scott Summers's kids .

How DC depends on a "crisis" to keep ideas fresh.

Hulk getting slaped around

Phoenix.... dont tell GS, but seriously live or die damnit.

FF is basically Reed with the UN on KMC...lol

The Wolverine jokes....we can still run with batkick though

Memo just came, and we cant use batkick nemore lol

bad guys turning good, only to turn bad again

letting reformed villains on your super team..even if they tried to kill you at one point

Costume changes followed by the inevitable change back

Originally posted by outavodka
Black Heroes coming off all hood n shit sometimes"We all dont sucumb to talking all ghetto"


Tell that to Reggie Hudlin

Originally posted by manjaro
bad guys turning good, only to turn bad again

letting reformed villains on your super team..even if they tried to kill you at one point The thunderbolts are mad now

Originally posted by outavodka

FF is basically Reed with the UN on KMC...lol
Funny, because Galactus is becoming Galactus with the Nullifier now too.

Long flowing, Fabio hair on the guys.
Opera gloves and thigh highs on the gals.

The whole tights/spandex thing.

Yeah...Hulk always gettin slapped around. What's the point of being Hulk then? Like having everyone beat Flash in races.

Horizontal flying position.

Originally posted by Mindship

Horizontal flying position.

wow.......

Secret Identities.

http://www.passfailstudios.com/comics/35.jpg

the cliche stand toqether pose at the end of a story arc. usually takes place in front of somethinq trite and equally cliched like an american flaq, a rock face leadinq off to nowhere, fiery husk of a blown up (insert here) whatever but that pose has to qo.

thats actually kind of funny, i laffed out loud a little bit about the flag how about the beginning of the story arc everyone is playing baseball or having snowball fights until their HQ comes under attack, and you see different panel shots of some working in a lab, or on a car or those who are lovers making out.

which leads to the second. if you're on a super team you have to "hook up" with at least one team mate, and fall madly, and truly in love with another.

or when big cosmic level threats are going down, street levelers are still able to make a difference, and somethimes end up being the big heroes who save the day.

you hear that one of your super hero buddies has a personal score to settle with someone from thier past, but instead of minding your own business you rush after them to "stop" them from doing something "stupid", and to also remind them that is their family now, and if you kill you are no better than the bad guys are, and there is always another way

Originally posted by manjaro

you hear that one of your super hero buddies has a personal score to settle with someone from thier past, but instead of minding your own business you rush after them to "stop" them from doing something "stupid", and to also remind them that is their family now, and if you kill you are no better than the bad guys are, and there is always another way

Well, THAT'S not eerily specific...


Anyways, I think the most pertinent comics cliche to take all cakes is this:

No one in comics ever stays dead. Except Uncle Ben. And even he pushes it sometimes.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Horrible childhoods.

and orphans.

Pregnancies that don't result in real children.


The babies are always either reveled as never being real babies or are aged up to sullen teenagers within a few moments.

Either way once they come out of their mothers they discard the women who just birthed them.

Another thing I hate is all these babyteens. They are only really a few years old in reality but they all are aged up in to teenagers asap so that they become interesting.

Why arn't these children all insane?

Mysterious villain that turns out to be someone the hero knows. I was particularly flabbergasted when the crime-boss Rose (one of them) was revealed to be none other that Jacob Conover; a former columnist of Daily Bugle.

official taker of all cakes:

some bad ass uber villain who's normally known for his prowess as a mighty tactician spends weeks, months, somtimes years, concocting the most diabolical plots in the history of the lot, planning for every outcome, and calculating every contingency to the 5th decimal point. Starts out well with the execution, but have it all go to shit in one afternoon cuz he cant resist the urge to make a grand announcement to the hero community, and blab to the heroes as they battle

Originally posted by Fanboy
http://www.passfailstudios.com/comics/35.jpg

Originally posted by manjaro
official taker of all cakes:

some bad ass uber villain who's normally known for his prowess as a mighty tactician spends weeks, months, somtimes years, concocting the most diabolical plots in the history of the lot, planning for every outcome, and calculating every contingency to the 5th decimal point. Starts out well with the execution, but have it all go to shit in one afternoon cuz he cant resist the urge to make a grand announcement to the hero community, and blab to the heroes as they battle



wouldnt it be funny that if a villain spends years plotting for a hero, the day before he starts his master plan, the hero is hit by a bus or something and killed?

villain: "all those years. my God, I've wasted my life"

Lack of bad-ass British heroes.

Were a country too ya know !

Not much of a country.

Jean Grey.

Originally posted by Dynamic One
Not much of a country.

Your a nobody, be quiet.

Originally posted by Dynamic One
Not much of a country.

Quiet Yankee !

runner up to taker of all cakes:

when ever super villains with a specific, usually useful powerset, actually goes to prison, instead of letting him do 100 yrs standing on thier heads, as soon as they spend like a month or two some secret govt. faction always recruit them for black ops missions, then do something stupid like put shut down impants in thier brains or thier hearts, or some kind or neural shorter outer collar inhibiter thing.....which never works in the long run

Is a guy with liquid metal mouth (with the ability to control it of course), a girl who can heal everyone but herself, a guy who eats meat and gets strong, a girl who can manipulate the surface so it will "carry" her wherever she wants, a guy who "static cling" to any surface from any part of his body, a guy who can transform into a black dragon, can project black fire from his hands, is an incredible marksman, martial arts and weapon expert? ... Are those cliched ideas??

"beyond time and space" . . .

"destroyed all of reality/creation/universe" . . .

any other soft/ambiguous modifier that describes universe/reality/multiverse and sounds "cool" but really says nothing at all . . .

Originally posted by leonidas
"beyond time and space" . . .

"destroyed all of reality/creation/universe" . . .

any other soft/ambiguous modifier that describes universe/reality/multiverse and sounds "cool" but really says nothing at all . . .

Those do seem pretty grand and ambiguous. I'd like to think my my creations are bit more centered on whats going on in the world and use what little bit of extraordinary power they have to try and make a difference. Heroes HAVE to struggle and villians need to have more layers, especially behind their motivation unless of course they've just gone insane or really high or stoned! HA HA!

Originally posted by Vim
Is a guy with liquid metal mouth (with the ability to control it of course), a girl who can heal everyone but herself, a guy who eats meat and gets strong, a girl who can manipulate the surface so it will "carry" her wherever she wants, a guy who "static cling" to any surface from any part of his body, a guy who can transform into a black dragon, can project black fire from his hands, is an incredible marksman, martial arts and weapon expert? ... Are those cliched ideas??

As stated in your thread the characters powers themselves are not THAT cliched (Minus the last one) just the way you implemented them. I mean Aliens ?

Okay, okay I admit the aliens have been overused in the past, but what else is there? I can't use radiation, can't use mutants, can't use "cosmic rays", can't use aliens, that's supposedly how the Marvel heroes were created in the first place huh? Accoring to the Earth X, Universe X stuff? Anyway, what I'm saying is, what ISN'T cliched? Is there anything original in comic books at all anymore?? Maybe I could say its like a ripple of time effect, where its like since this one particular guy was going to get his braces off at certain time and since it was met, then the power activated itself? Then because his power was activated then the others were too??

So what ISN'T cliched?

Originally posted by Ichigo66666
Your a nobody, be quiet.


I'm sorry I can't be as popular and revered as you are in this most distinguished internet forum. Perhaps one day.... ::somberly whistlinq the tune:: "When you wish upon a star..."

Originally posted by grey fox
Quiet Yankee !


I could attempt some degrading remark to wail upon your self esteem, but I don't think even the most cruel response could trump the shame you must feel for beinq born on an island full of inbred, yuck-mouth, spotted dick eating (adjective overload) yea you qet the point.

Originally posted by Dynamic One
I'm sorry I can't be as popular and revered as you are in this most distinguished internet forum. Perhaps one day.... ::somberly whistlinq the tune:: "When you wish upon a star..."

Aww, you think your smart.




Stop f*cking insulting my country, until you are someone, you are sh*t on my shoe.

Oh wait, that is how you live.

"nearly infinite" (or some variation thereof)...

I think a cliched hero is one like Spawn, the kind of anti-hero, dark, mopey, devil-dealing.... Let's see there's Ghost Rider (probably most original, I know he came out before Spawn), Batman (not devil-dealing but similar)... okay well you get the idea... Those kind of heroes...

Dynamic One, Ichio, etc.

Stop with the idiocy. Small jabs and insults happen on internet forums. Grow up and deal with it. We don't need to revert to racism and profanity.

Originally posted by grey fox
Lack of bad-ass British heroes.

Were a country too ya know ! Rule Britannia! And I agree, half of Excalibur are yanks themselves... and do DC have any brit heroes?

Originally posted by Vim
I think a cliched hero is one like Spawn, the kind of anti-hero, dark, mopey, devil-dealing.... Let's see there's Ghost Rider (probably most original, I know he came out before Spawn), Batman (not devil-dealing but similar)... okay well you get the idea... Those kind of heroes... LOL... I was just reading an article about the GR movie in Empire the other and day and they were positively salivating aout how original he is... and I managed to make a list of 5 or 10 people who are very similar concepts...

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Dynamic One, Ichio, etc.

Stop with the idiocy. Small jabs and insults happen on internet forums. Grow up and deal with it. We don't need to revert to racism and profanity.


I wasn't beinq racist, I was beinq discriminatory. I have leqitimate beef with britain anyway, for that matter any descendant of europe. Black and sioux here. But hey whatever its peace.

Originally posted by Dynamic One
I wasn't beinq racist, I was beinq discriminatory. I have leqitimate beef with britain anyway, for that matter any descendant of europe. Black and sioux here. But hey whatever its peace.

you can't think of a more appropriate place to vent your grieviences than on a comic book forum in a thread talking about cliches?

there are THOUSANDS of political message boards with lots of people who will be happy to engage you in that discussion.

That being said, this post is itself hypocritical, so I will bow out now and read more of the funny cliches...

flying horizontally, HAHAHA, that one still gets me

charcters who upgrade thier costumes to armor, only to change back an take it to the roots.

I would have to say prep or "battle prep" like thats the end all of a battle or fight the guy with prep time wins I know its comics but come on what a joke its impossible to figure out every move have timing down perfect anything can happen stuff gos wrong and everything changes when you get hit in the mouth. Preps not a bad thing fighters go into the ring with a gameplan or if you fight you know what I'm talkin about 99% percent of the time that game plan changes rather fast or goes out the window in laymans terms shit happens...

Brains overcoming brawn every time.

Strong = Dumb

people plus prep = better

Originally posted by superbatman86
Brains overcoming brawn every time.

Well of course, what kind of lesson would the comic books be sending the kiddies if they figured out they didn't have to study to the point of exhaustion or make really high on their ACTs or SATs, instead they could just go the gym work out to the point of exhaustion and still succeed? ... Just look at Ahnuld ... Perfect example of Brawn over brains and still succeeding! Amazing I tell you, simply amazing... Of course he had to have a little bit of brains to become as successful as he has become... but you get my point... Course that's the real world and were talking comics here sooooo ... Yeah Brains will win over Brawn everytime! Cuz nothing is the same in comics as it is in real life.

death.

after a catastophic mission failure, evey hero must go on one of those self loathing, soul searching road trips, to find themselves and figure out what it is to be a hero at least once in his or her career

Originally posted by superbatman86
Brains overcoming brawn every time.

The Leader would like a word with you.

The villan who has commited despicably evil acts, including large amounts of murder, and will kill others if he/she isn't stopped permantely, is at the mercy of the heroes - and they don't finish him there and then. And he/she mocks the heroes for having no guts.
Then, quite often, a third party comes out of nowhere and does the deed, so the heroes image isn't sullied. (Such an example I recently saw in back issues of Ultimate X-Men.)

Meanwhile, Wonder Woman does a completely justified killing of Maxwell Lord, to save the lives of Batman and Superman, and they shun her. Candy-asses.

Originally posted by Vim
Is a guy with liquid metal mouth (with the ability to control it of course), a girl who can heal everyone but herself, a guy who eats meat and gets strong, a girl who can manipulate the surface so it will "carry" her wherever she wants, a guy who "static cling" to any surface from any part of his body, a guy who can transform into a black dragon, can project black fire from his hands, is an incredible marksman, martial arts and weapon expert? ... Are those cliched ideas??
Are you trying to shill your own character ideas?

Originally posted by roughrider
The villan who has commited despicably evil acts, including large amounts of murder, and will kill others if he/she isn't stopped permantely, is at the mercy of the heroes - and they don't finish him there and then. And he/she mocks the heroes for having no guts.
Then, quite often, a third party comes out of nowhere and does the deed, so the heroes image isn't sullied. (Such an example I recently saw in back issues of Ultimate X-Men.)



...But it's Professor X for Christs sake , what the hell do you expect !!!

Tech and Weapons from the future failing against hero's.

Certain hero's always finding the 1 in a million chance way to save the day more than once!! I don't mind seeing it just when the character uses it time after time makes me think it'd be more interesting seeing them failing and getting owned and then picking up the peices.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Are you trying to shill your own character ideas?

Yes as a matter of fact I am! If you browse through the "Metal Mouth" thread you'll see lots of original ideas for powers and characters. Unless of coruse I have searched hard enough through the comic book worlds, which I'll admit I haven't. But I still feel like they are some of the most uncliched things I've seen in a long time. Also just as a side note, I would like to take a moment to explain what I'm trying to do with Metal Mouth series, its an take on the Golden (or was it Silver? :erm Age of Heroes when they had corny names, wicked, weird powers, funky costumes, and still kicked ass and took names, but yet I'm trying to put a modern spin on it. I'm still working on the origin stories of most, and have moved on from the aliens thing... I'm working on updating it soon!! Take a look and tell me what you think!

Superbabes with DD breasts.

...no, wait, that's a good thing.

Originally posted by grey fox
...But it's Professor X for Christs sake , what the hell do you expect !!!

No, this was Jean weeping over how she couldn't kill the psycho mastermind behind Weapon X, and he gets away taunting them only to be shot dead by Nick Fury. This was Mark Millar's early work in the series.

Originally posted by roughrider
No, this was Jean weeping over how she couldn't kill the psycho mastermind behind Weapon X, and he gets away taunting them only to be shot dead by Nick Fury. This was Mark Millar's early work in the series.

Ohhh...he was a bastard.. I thought you meant the 'World Trip' Arc...

Originally posted by grey fox
...But it's Professor X for Christs sake , what the hell do you expect !!!

Someone should of thrown the writing team that made Prof X the man he is today off a cliff long ago. They're seriously screwing the dude up with all these things crawling out of the woodwork recently i.e. Danger being sentient, Cassandra Nova, Vulcan ;S.

It's like Tony Stark too although i never really liked him. Damn blantent character corruption that can't be undone.

gadget based heroes always....i mean always having the right gadget for the right situation 9/10 times

Genius level intellect....Everyone, and their flippin mother is a genius.

Originally posted by manjaro
gadget based heroes always....i mean always having the right gadget for the right situation 9/10 times

Hey thats not cliched! That's just being prepared... Like the Boy Scouts, "Always be prepared."

yeah that makes sense if they have the time but lets just pick on batman for one...in hush he fell in the gotham harbor, and all of a sudden mini propellers come whirrrrling out of his boot heels, so he doesnt have to waste energy diving, he just shoots thru the water.

or when he's in gotham searching for the joker buts runs into clayface, he jus so happen to have freeze pellets in his belt for that ass.

or when spiderman used to whip up a special batch of web fluid, just for morbious, b4 he even suspects him in an attack