"Godlike" Cable vs. Superboy (telekinetic).

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rotiart
Now this is Cable at his full potential as shown against silver surfer...

vs. Superboy as a telekinetic, before he started turning more and more into superman...

SpunkySmurph
Edit that, stupid question.

So basically this is when SB was using tactile telekinesis?

rotiart
Yes. I remembered that he was pretty much "superman" level using only telekinesis... to have basically his durability, flying ability... and strength...

so i thought... thats basically what cable was doing... and cable hung with surfer... and superboy pretty much could hang with superman...

(I really do miss kon-el I thought he was a great character)

Soleran
Superboy dies a horrible death.

Roldz
Yep, SB stands no chance not even a .5%..lol

Murda Ma$e
Superboy could keep up with Superman in speed....well not equally, but he wouldn't get dusted.

So maybe he could speed blitz him.

I think Cable would win though.

don't shiv
God Help Superboy.

Sirius77
Cable can get shot.
Superboy cannot.

Superboy Can lift almost as Much as Superman.
Cable is MAYBE as strong than Captain America.

Superboy can speedblitz, and move faster than Cable can think.
Cable is a powerful Telekinetic and Telepath, but so Manchester Black.

Cable has Telekinesis.
So Does Superboy.

So here we have Superboy with Telekinesis and enough extra powers to literally liquify cable's face with one punch, IF he can get there fast enough... which he can, because he has superspeed.


This is ridiculous. Think Logically.

Rewmac
THERE IS NO SUCH LIKE GOD LIKE CABLE JUST A FULL POTENTIAL ONE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Superboy (Conner) uses tactile TK. Basically he can control anything he touches exception of Kryptonite. Cable controls nearly everything. He doesn't have to touch things to control them.

Superboy's strenght feats won't really work. Especially coz Cable can hold a nuclear blast with TK shield, can blow people's brains and can easily rip a house apart, lift a house or nearly anything.

We have Superboy having trouble with holding a wall. And he doesn't even have TK blast.

Both have Telepathy just Cable uses that more than Conner.

Conner prefers to be something Superman like...But he uses a lot of his TK and he has some telepathy too.

Soleran
Originally posted by Rewmac
THERE IS NO SUCH LIKE GOD LIKE CABLE JUST A FULL POTENTIAL ONE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Superboy (Conner) uses tactile TK. Basically he can control anything he touches exception of Kryptonite. Cable controls nearly everything. He doesn't have to touch things to control them.

Superboy's strenght feats won't really work. Especially coz Cable can hold a nuclear blast with TK shield, can blow people's brains and can easily rip a house apart, lift a house or nearly anything.

We have Superboy having trouble with holding a wall. And he doesn't even have TK blast.

Both have Telepathy just Cable uses that more than Conner.

Conner prefers to be something Superman like...But he uses a lot of his TK and he has some telepathy too.


Godlike Cable takes this easily.

Rewmac
Show me proof, a scan where it states Cable was ever Godlike...

Soleran
It's been posted for you in the past, right after Cable destroys Surfers board he is floating saying something to the affect he didn't do what he's done to become a virtual god to be taken down by the likes of SS or anyone.

Cable says it, more importantly you just get worked up at the use of Godlike Cable and makes it entertainingsmile

http://img170.imageshack.us/my.php?image=surfercable1ty8.jpg

Enjoy

Rewmac
No. That ain't it. He wasn't Godlike. He just tought he was. He used his full potetential powers. Cable isn't even Omega Level mutant. He is only Alpha.
Tell me, how the hell did Surfer switched his powers off if he was Godlike??? Has anybody else states that?? Any of Marvel??? No.
You wanna post Cable stuff to me??? Wake up.

Soljer
Seriously...."Godlike" is just the easiest way to refer to the Cable that took the Surfer on.

Rewmac
Originally posted by Soljer
Seriously...."Godlike" is just the easiest way to refer to the Cable that took the Surfer on.

Surfer took on Cable...And then the question again...

How did he get his ass kicked. By the way, read it. He said he made himself a God. Hm...How can an ex-Herald of Galactus just switch off a God's or a Godlike's power?

Soleran
Originally posted by Rewmac
No. That ain't it. He wasn't Godlike. He just tought he was. He used his full potetential powers. Cable isn't even Omega Level mutant. He is only Alpha.
Tell me, how the hell did Surfer switched his powers off if he was Godlike??? Has anybody else states that?? Any of Marvel??? No.
You wanna post Cable stuff to me??? Wake up.


Um yeah, Cable said it himself......................."Do you get it yet? I did not turn myself into everything I have always stood against--make myself a God-- just to come up short."

Hence the expression Godlike Cable, or what you like to refer to as "Full Potential Cable" it's the same guy.

So anyway Superboy loses to this version of Cable, make a new thread if you want to debate semantics on Silver Surfer vs Cable.

Rewmac
Hmmm..I'm only saying as a die-hard Cable fan. Cable isn't, wasn't Godlike,God or Omega Level in his life...

http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/8518/cabledeadpool102005streac6.th.jpg

http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/5835/cabledeadpool102005stredx4.th.jpg

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/9130/cabledeadpool102005strefb4.th.jpg


Why should I make a thread. I already know what would happen to Cable.

ExtraMision5555
Originally posted by Rewmac
Hmmm..I'm only saying as a die-hard Cable fan. Cable isn't, wasn't Godlike,God or Omega Level in his life...

http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/8518/cabledeadpool102005streac6.th.jpg

http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/5835/cabledeadpool102005stredx4.th.jpg

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/9130/cabledeadpool102005strefb4.th.jpg


Why should I make a thread. I already know what would happen to Cable.

The term "Godlike", as soljer stated is merely a figure of speech. If you want to take it literally, thats fine, but dont get all worked up about it. its a figurative term, ALTHOUGH its also fair to say he had some godly feats.

ExtraMision5555
Originally posted by Sirius77
Cable can get shot.
Superboy cannot.

Superboy Can lift almost as Much as Superman.
Cable is MAYBE as strong than Captain America.

Superboy can speedblitz, and move faster than Cable can think.
Cable is a powerful Telekinetic and Telepath, but so Manchester Black.

Cable has Telekinesis.
So Does Superboy.

So here we have Superboy with Telekinesis and enough extra powers to literally liquify cable's face with one punch, IF he can get there fast enough... which he can, because he has superspeed.


This is ridiculous. Think Logically.

Unfortunately, Half the things you listed cable can negate due to high level telekinesis. his physical shortcomeings are more than compenstated for

Rewmac
Originally posted by Sirius77
Cable can get shot.
Superboy cannot.

Superboy Can lift almost as Much as Superman.
Cable is MAYBE as strong than Captain America.

Superboy can speedblitz, and move faster than Cable can think.
Cable is a powerful Telekinetic and Telepath, but so Manchester Black.

Cable has Telekinesis.
So Does Superboy.

So here we have Superboy with Telekinesis and enough extra powers to literally liquify cable's face with one punch, IF he can get there fast enough... which he can, because he has superspeed.


This is ridiculous. Think Logically.


Cable can get shot???????????

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/Rewmac/Scans/CableDeadpool01Pyrate-DCP21.jpg

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/Rewmac/Scans/CD002-04.jpg

Can you tell me Sirius how?

2nd : Superboy can speedblitz about less than half of Supes speed.

He has Tactile Telekinesis, he controls things he touches.

3rd : Cable is as strong as Captain America???

Here is he lifting a piece of his Space Station, which isn't exactly Cap's class.

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/Rewmac/Scans/CD006-08-SrBehemothResin.jpg

4th : Cable can see the toughts of multiple people and can control them using telephaty.

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/Rewmac/Scans/CableDeadpool01Pyrate-DCP14.jpg

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/Rewmac/Scans/CableDeadpool01Pyrate-DCP15.jpg

Rewmac
Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
The term "Godlike", as soljer stated is merely a figure of speech. If you want to take it literally, thats fine, but dont get all worked up about it. its a figurative term, ALTHOUGH its also fair to say he had some godly feats.

He didn't have any. He is one of my favourites I should know. Classic Beyonder had Godlike powers. And the Cable who "fought" Silver Surfer wasn't really on that level.

ExtraMision5555
Originally posted by Rewmac
He didn't have any. He is one of my favourites I should know. Classic Beyonder had Godlike powers. And the Cable who "fought" Silver Surfer wasn't really on that level.


Godlike feats? At the minimum, i would classify listening to the thoughts of the entire earth as "godlike", or maybe "goddish", but in a way, i understand what you mean when you say he didnt really have Godlike powers. Because in the grand scale of "god" abilities, cable doesnt really have any, that i agree. But for the sake of descriptiveness, cable was infact goddish in this form. perhaps moreso in swagger than in actual abilites.

ExtraMision5555
Originally posted by Rewmac
Cable can get shot???????????

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/Rewmac/Scans/CableDeadpool01Pyrate-DCP21.jpg

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/Rewmac/Scans/CD002-04.jpg

Can you tell me Sirius how?

2nd : Superboy can speedblitz about less than half of Supes speed.

He has Tactile Telekinesis, he controls things he touches.

3rd : Cable is as strong as Captain America???

Here is he lifting a piece of his Space Station, which isn't exactly Cap's class.

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/Rewmac/Scans/CD006-08-SrBehemothResin.jpg

4th : Cable can see the toughts of multiple people and can control them using telephaty.

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/Rewmac/Scans/CableDeadpool01Pyrate-DCP14.jpg

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/Rewmac/Scans/CableDeadpool01Pyrate-DCP15.jpg

thumb up thumb up
exactly what i was saying
thankyou for posting that

Rewmac
Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
Godlike feats? At the minimum, i would classify listening to the thoughts of the entire earth as "godlike", or maybe "goddish", but in a way, i understand what you mean when you say he didnt really have Godlike powers. Because in the grand scale of "god" abilities, cable doesnt really have any, that i agree. But for the sake of descriptiveness, cable was infact goddish in this form. perhaps moreso in swagger than in actual abilites.

Listening to the whole Earth was a great feat . But still not enough. He needed full concentration. Genis-Vell knows everything in the Universe. And still not enough to be Godlike.

Like I told you. Read Secret Wars 2 with Classic Beyonder in it. Or just google him or something. He was Godlike and had Godlike powers. Cable isn't an Omega Level mutant.

ExtraMision5555
Originally posted by Rewmac
Listening to the whole Earth was a great feat . But still not enough. He needed full concentration. Genis-Vell knows everything in the Universe. And still not enough to be Godlike.

Like I told you. Read Secret Wars 2 with Classic Beyonder in it. Or just google him or something. He was Godlike and had Godlike powers. Cable isn't an Omega Level mutant.

I understand completely; the only thing im saying is, figuretively, even if a major stretch i understand why the term "godlike" would be applied to this verison of cable. but in all truthfull and literalness, cable wasnt actually very godlike at all. As i said, i think it comes more form his behavior than his actual powers, or the contrast between his "godlike" form and pre-godlike form

Rewmac
Nevermind. I would be the happiest man on KMC Comic Book Forums if Cable had become Godlike.

Rewmac
Originally posted by Sirius77
Cable can get shot.
Superboy cannot.


By the way. Superboy can't get shot because he is using a TK shield to protect himself...

Avalonofthewind
I'd give the majority to Godlike cable.

Now if it was Black Zero or the future version of Conner then I would give it to Conner.

Rewmac
But this is not Black Zero big grin So it all comes to Full Power Cable big grin

Omega-level
Originally posted by Rewmac
Hmmm..I'm only saying as a die-hard Cable fan. Cable isn't, wasn't Godlike,God or Omega Level in his life...

WTF you're talking about? Without the technovirus, Cable is probably the most powerful mutant on Earth, 30 times what Jean was without the Phoenix Force, on Franklin Richards' level. Sinister knows what he says; without the technovirus, Cable has Omega potential .

And he would beat Superboy easily.

manorastroman
to be fair, cable wasn't really fighting surfer that hard. he just blew up his board, more like a warning shot. and to be extra fair, he was holding up providence and telepathically communicating with the entire globe during the fight.

Validus
Everyone has their own take on the Surfer/Cable fight. I've seen about half a dozen reasons why he coulda/woulda/shoulda won. He didn't.

kgkg
Originally posted by Validus
Everyone has their own take on the Surfer/Cable fight. I've seen about half a dozen reasons why he coulda/woulda/shoulda won. He didn't. even though he lost he should have done a little better.

SS owned him wink

Soljer
Originally posted by kgkg
even though he lost he should have done a little better.

SS owned him wink

No shit. Just as the Surfer SHOULD own Cable, no matter what potential he's at.

The Surfer jobs WAY too much for my tastes. erm.

Rewmac
Originally posted by Omega-level
WTF you're talking about? Without the technovirus, Cable is probably the most powerful mutant on Earth, 30 times what Jean was without the Phoenix Force, on Franklin Richards' level. Sinister knows what he says; without the technovirus, Cable has Omega potential .

And he would beat Superboy easily.

Nope. Je is still Alpha. He would/he could and stuff are just suppositions. Maybe he could be. But Cable till this day never had Omega potential.

Originally posted by manorastroman
to be fair, cable wasn't really fighting surfer that hard. he just blew up his board, more like a warning shot. and to be extra fair, he was holding up providence and telepathically communicating with the entire globe during the fight. He was fighting. He just didn't stand a chance, because he is a mutant. Surfer easily switched his X-Gene off.
Originally posted by Validus
Everyone has their own take on the Surfer/Cable fight. I've seen about half a dozen reasons why he coulda/woulda/shoulda won. He didn't. Co-Signed.

Omega-level
Originally posted by Rewmac
Nope. Je is still Alpha. He would/he could and stuff are just suppositions. Maybe he could be. But Cable till this day never had Omega potential.


Yes, he had. It may have never been confirmed on panel, but it's pretty obvious that he is, in the same way that, even without confirmation, we can say that X-man, Stryfe, Madelyne Pryor or Mad Jim Jaspers are Omegas.

don't shiv
Superboy falls hard.

starlock
full potential cable for the win

Rewmac
Originally posted by Omega-level
Yes, he had. It may have never been confirmed on panel, but it's pretty obvious that he is, in the same way that, even without confirmation, we can say that X-man, Stryfe, Madelyne Pryor or Mad Jim Jaspers are Omegas.

Nate might be an Omega as Shaman. Cable never was. If it's not confirmed then not. Omega means unlimited potential. But it's true we don't know Cable's limits. Stryfe is an Omega Level mutant though. Dunno about Pryor and Jaspers. But Cable was never Omega. He is still Alpha.

ExtraMision5555
Its fair to say he wasnt omega, but as we all saw, you cant deny the fact that cable was incredibly powerful. I duno what you would call that, but cable was far beyond any mutant on earth. Omega? Perhaps not as he was never said to be, but thats not to say he wasnt obviously EXTREMELY powerful, and we never TRUELY got to see him go allllll out. Its unfortunate. They should do soemthing with that version of cable, he was very interesting. I really like cable, but right now hes dissapponiting. Hope somethign good happens to him soon

Rewmac
He isn't disappointing. He is still cool. He was powerful as hell yes...And he still is.

ExtraMision5555
Now? isint he TK'less? err, his powers have been severely setback for the time being havent they?

Rewmac
Check the respect thread what he is capable of after his powers were nullified.

ExtraMision5555
Originally posted by Rewmac
Check the respect thread what he is capable of after his powers were nullified.

Bomb, i didnt realize 32 was out, id ont wana spoil too much, is the entire issue uploaded somewehre?

i need to read it
Goood to see cable is still ravenous

Rewmac
33 is out already...

ExtraMision5555
Originally posted by Rewmac
33 is out already...

yeah
i just figured that out as well
im so far behidn :/
no comic book store in sight

Rewmac
Check marvel.com for spoilers and release dates...

Sirius77
Originally posted by Rewmac
Cable can get shot???????????

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/Rewmac/Scans/CableDeadpool01Pyrate-DCP21.jpg

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/Rewmac/Scans/CD002-04.jpg

Can you tell me Sirius how?

2nd : Superboy can speedblitz about less than half of Supes speed.

He has Tactile Telekinesis, he controls things he touches.

3rd : Cable is as strong as Captain America???

Here is he lifting a piece of his Space Station, which isn't exactly Cap's class.

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/Rewmac/Scans/CD006-08-SrBehemothResin.jpg

4th : Cable can see the toughts of multiple people and can control them using telephaty.

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/Rewmac/Scans/CableDeadpool01Pyrate-DCP14.jpg

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/Rewmac/Scans/CableDeadpool01Pyrate-DCP15.jpg



In the way of strenghth, I was referring to PHYSICAL STRENGTH, not telekinesis, and if you try to tell me that is not an example of telekenesis, then that would be moronic.

Another thing, supes easily moves at light speed, half, or even a fourth of that would be devastating to a human body in a speed blitz, mutant or otherwise.

Sirius77
Originally posted by Rewmac
Cable can get shot???????????


Well, according to this, yes he can if Shatterstar isn't there to protect him. Thats some telepathy he has there, he can control minds, but he appearently can't see his own death coming... oh no, a speed blitz would never work on this guy, he's waaaay too aware...

http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/6451/scan10191xx2.th.jpg

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