Sonic & The Secret Rings/Sonic Wildfire

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luffyjin
I'm anticipating alot from this game, as perusual Sony's & Xbox's side of Sonic was....0mglotsographicsncrapstorylinewooooo....Well Nintendo's side have been quite calm as in: Lets take this game back to simple gameplay, minimum storyline and the hog on his own.

I don't know about you but the Wii side of things makes me think more of Sonic...I'm not saying that every SONIC '06 fan is a loser i'm just saying that here is a quick history of 3D Sonic games and how they've stooped:

Sonic Adventure:One of the BEST games i will ever play, good start for 3D Sonic and this title will always be in my heart

Sonic Adventure 2: Ouch, big letdown on this game; random story, Emo Hedgehog and Slutty Bat doesn't quite wet my pallete...The Chao had made a big improvement but the Chao alone could not make up for the simply random storyline and glitchy gameplay

Sonic Adventure 2 Battle: Sameish but better graphics and improved controls

Sonic Heroes: Good theory........Crap game (also the first game to go onto xbox and ps2, therefore defiling sonic forever)

Shadow The Hedgehog: Don't know where to start..Good graphics, storyline that got lost up it's own arse and did nothing to explain Shadow's past but complicate it more.
(Second sonic on ps2 and xbox, woah wait a minute is there some kind of pattern to this?)

Sonic Riders: Brilliant comeback but not enough conciderinng it's a spinoff (on ps2 the multiplayer was cut down to 2 player and as far as i know the xbox version was sound, so maybe a break in the pattern of crap multisystem?)

Now a new age is upon us..Next Gen, Sonic 06 will make or break Sonic's future.......But ONLY for PS3 and XBOX360...Nintendo here have done everything right and not one game that's graced their system has been THAT bad...Sonic 06 has gone with the Sonic Adventure 2 approach of introducing new characters (Sonic Riders did it in a bit more of a colourfull way)...I just have a sick feeling to my stomach that Sonic '06 will embarrass him further..

On the other hand, what do we have here? A Sonic game that has a 4 button control system? Right let's delve into that rather than a Lord Of The Rings parody.....Let us strip down a big big 3d Sonic game into the basics:

3D Graphics: Make the graphics as beautiful as you want but it won't change dodgy storyline and/or gameplay..Sonic & The Secret Rings has stripped the story to something simple and accessible rather than confusing and time wasting

Controls:Jump,Run,Change Camera,Various Special Moves,Missions.....**** that, throw all of that away....Run,Jump,Fire meter........Now THAT's stripping it down

There you have why i think that Sonic & The Secret Rings will be successfull over SONIC '06...I mean even the names make it obvious which one is lacking inspiration.....

Thoughts?
Wishes For Secret Rings?
Plans For Storyline Advancements?

Post all of this here

AstroFan
Sonic Wii sounds very cool. big grin




I played the demo of Sonic for 360, it was terrible, constantly launching over cliffs.

General Kaliero
I'd just like to note here that Neither Sony, Microsoft, or Nintendo really have anything to do with the games. SEGA itself is responsible for controls, stories, and graphics, regardless of the system. Thus, there is no reason to believe Secret Rings' storyline will be any better than Sonic '06's just because it's on a Nintendo system.

Frankly, despite being interested in Secret Rings, I'm just as interested in Sonic '06. I see a possible potential for both, and likely will do all in my power to play both.

Also, for Secret Rings I wonder if the controls may have been simplified a bit too much. One demo I saw had the player run into a wall and stop, and it took him about 30 seconds to get Sonic to back up enough to clear the overhang.

luffyjin
Haha guess they focused too much on the graphics..I'm not expecting ANYTHING of Sonic 06 but a good laugh....At Shadow's Emo Face ;D

luffyjin
Originally posted by General Kaliero
I'd just like to note here that Neither Sony, Microsoft, or Nintendo really have anything to do with the games. SEGA itself is responsible for controls, stories, and graphics, regardless of the system. Thus, there is no reason to believe Secret Rings' storyline will be any better than Sonic '06's just because it's on a Nintendo system.

Frankly, despite being interested in Secret Rings, I'm just as interested in Sonic '06. I see a possible potential for both, and likely will do all in my power to play both.

Also, for Secret Rings I wonder if the controls may have been simplified a bit too much. One demo I saw had the player run into a wall and stop, and it took him about 30 seconds to get Sonic to back up enough to clear the overhang.

Yes but the machines are property of these people..Hence why Nintendo's Wii has the better controls due to the control system and PS3 and XBOX360 have the over complicated ones

General Kaliero
Don't double-post, please.

Why do you think the 360 controls are "overcomplicated"? Jumping, attacking, moving Sonic AND moving the camera are too much for you? Yet take out the camera element (and add another element, which makes the subtraction nil) and suddenly the controls are oh-so-much better?

Kayne Archeron
i agree with you that Heroes, Sonic Adventure 2, and Shadow kinda sagged in the quality department, but i'm still willing to give Sonic '06 a chance, i'm curious to see what psychic abilities Silver is capable of

luffyjin
Originally posted by General Kaliero
Don't double-post, please.

Why do you think the 360 controls are "overcomplicated"? Jumping, attacking, moving Sonic AND moving the camera are too much for you? Yet take out the camera element (and add another element, which makes the subtraction nil) and suddenly the controls are oh-so-much better?

Don't tell me what to do, please. I was fully aware of the double post and the fact i cursed very loudly when the second post was processed.

And how are there more elements just traded =S...There is run and jump in Sonic & The Secret Rings In Sonic 06 various DBZ inspired powerups are used.....-_-;; That's why Sonic And The Secret Rings is "oh so better"

Originally posted by Kayne Archeron
i agree with you that Heroes, Sonic Adventure 2, and Shadow kinda sagged in the quality department, but i'm still willing to give Sonic '06 a chance, i'm curious to see what psychic abilities Silver is capable of

Yeah i say...Give SONIC '06 a chance but if it's crap then don't complain because you know what was discussed about it...I already know the ending and it's crap...

General Kaliero
Praytell, why are you equipped with knowledge that no one beyond Sonic Team and the odd previewer should know?

What evidence have you of these "DBZ-inspired" powerups? What I've seen of the game showed essentially SA2 gameplay, the occasional driving level, and Silver's psychic powers, which may be what you're talking about, but I fail to see how picking something up and then throwing it will overcomplicate controls.

And for the record, the things you control in Secret Rings are speeding up, slowing down, jumping, attacking, moving side to side, and unleashing the WildFire.

luffyjin
Unleashing the wild fire is speeding up and slowing down...The running is automatically emulated by the game according to my sources....And DBZ powerups indicating the whole Super Sonic bullcrap that has been repeated throughout the sonic 3d series

Kero_Co
I can't wait for this game. I've notice in 3D sonic games you meet an obstacle as soon as you get going or your forced to change characters. Sonic is about speed and this one seems to have plenty of it. Sonic 06 is ok, but do we really need another hedgehog? If they are going to introduce silver they need to kill Shadow,and what happen to knuckles. He use to be almost as fast as sonic, and now he's been reduced to the airheaded muscular type.

dirkdirden
I only like my sonic to have 2 D's the third one messes everything up.

AstroFan
The thing I think went wrong with Sonic(besides control and camera, lol) is that it went to this almost anime crap type story. We got like 8 different hedgehogs, and bats and all kinds of crazy shit.

I just want to play as Sonic, I just want to run around.

dirkdirden
They are useing charactors from the cartoon.....which is lame.

I like Tails and Knuckles though they are cool.

Dr. Robotniks mean bean mashine still gets played all the time now thats a rockin game. But too bad they quit making good games like that.

AstroFan
Yeah, back in Sonic 3, when it Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles, that was cool. But after that they just got stupid.

dirkdirden
Originally posted by AstroFan
Yeah, back in Sonic 3, when it Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles, that was cool. But after that they just got stupid.

I have only played the 3d dreamcast one and it gave me motion sickness and I threw up every ware and I haven't touched a 3d sonic since and I never will.

§P0oONY
Originally posted by dirkdirden
I have only played the 3d dreamcast one and it gave me motion sickness and I threw up every ware and I haven't touched a 3d sonic since and I never will.
Give Sonic Adventure 2 a whirl. If you get over the glitches it's an amazingly decent game.

ESB -1138
Originally posted by luffyjin
I'm anticipating alot from this game, as perusual Sony's & Xbox's side of Sonic was....0mglotsographicsncrapstorylinewooooo....Well Nintendo's side have been quite calm as in: Lets take this game back to simple gameplay, minimum storyline and the hog on his own.

I don't know about you but the Wii side of things makes me think more of Sonic...I'm not saying that every SONIC '06 fan is a loser i'm just saying that here is a quick history of 3D Sonic games and how they've stooped:

Sonic Adventure:One of the BEST games i will ever play, good start for 3D Sonic and this title will always be in my heart

Sonic Adventure 2: Ouch, big letdown on this game; random story, Emo Hedgehog and Slutty Bat doesn't quite wet my pallete...The Chao had made a big improvement but the Chao alone could not make up for the simply random storyline and glitchy gameplay

Sonic Adventure 2 Battle: Sameish but better graphics and improved controls

Sonic Heroes: Good theory........Crap game (also the first game to go onto xbox and ps2, therefore defiling sonic forever)

Shadow The Hedgehog: Don't know where to start..Good graphics, storyline that got lost up it's own arse and did nothing to explain Shadow's past but complicate it more.
(Second sonic on ps2 and xbox, woah wait a minute is there some kind of pattern to this?)

Sonic Riders: Brilliant comeback but not enough conciderinng it's a spinoff (on ps2 the multiplayer was cut down to 2 player and as far as i know the xbox version was sound, so maybe a break in the pattern of crap multisystem?)

Now a new age is upon us..Next Gen, Sonic 06 will make or break Sonic's future.......But ONLY for PS3 and XBOX360...Nintendo here have done everything right and not one game that's graced their system has been THAT bad...Sonic 06 has gone with the Sonic Adventure 2 approach of introducing new characters (Sonic Riders did it in a bit more of a colourfull way)...I just have a sick feeling to my stomach that Sonic '06 will embarrass him further..

On the other hand, what do we have here? A Sonic game that has a 4 button control system? Right let's delve into that rather than a Lord Of The Rings parody.....Let us strip down a big big 3d Sonic game into the basics:

3D Graphics: Make the graphics as beautiful as you want but it won't change dodgy storyline and/or gameplay..Sonic & The Secret Rings has stripped the story to something simple and accessible rather than confusing and time wasting

Controls:Jump,Run,Change Camera,Various Special Moves,Missions.....**** that, throw all of that away....Run,Jump,Fire meter........Now THAT's stripping it down

There you have why i think that Sonic & The Secret Rings will be successfull over SONIC '06...I mean even the names make it obvious which one is lacking inspiration.....

Thoughts?
Wishes For Secret Rings?
Plans For Storyline Advancements?

Post all of this here

Well Sonic Adventure 2 overall had the best Sonic levels as of 3D. What I didn't like about it was the Tails/Eggman levels.

But I'm getting Sonic 2006 when it comes out just because I'm a Sonic fan but I am waiting for Sonic and the Secret Rings so much because it's just Sonic!

Oh and by the way you can't blame Shadow the Hedgehog on Sonic Team. They had nothing to do with the making of Shadow the Hedgehog. That was all Sega. Sonic Team did not do anything with it.

Kayne Archeron
Originally posted by luffyjin
Unleashing the wild fire is speeding up and slowing down...The running is automatically emulated by the game according to my sources....And DBZ powerups indicating the whole Super Sonic bullcrap that has been repeated throughout the sonic 3d series

every side-scrolling Sonic game has had Super Sonic... it was just harder to get in the classics

luffyjin
Originally posted by General Kaliero
Praytell, why are you equipped with knowledge that no one beyond Sonic Team and the odd previewer should know?

What evidence have you of these "DBZ-inspired" powerups? What I've seen of the game showed essentially SA2 gameplay, the occasional driving level, and Silver's psychic powers, which may be what you're talking about, but I fail to see how picking something up and then throwing it will overcomplicate controls.

Well having the gamescript DOES put me on advantage..When Silver is explained in brackets it says (Think Trunks from DBZ)..If that's not Dragonish enough for you take a look at the script...http://www.sonic-cult.org/newsx/fullnews.php?id=119...As i said..This will most defianatley be a flop..=3

ESB -1138
Sonic 06 is AWESOME!! I got the game and it is so freaking fun!! You can go so fast as Sonic it makes all other Sonic games look like Mario (in terms of Speed). Sonic 06 is fun because of how fast you can go. You can reach March Speed and everything looks like a blur.

Kayne Archeron
lucky; as saddened as i was by Sonic Adventure 2 and Shadow the Hedgehog, i'm still willing to try this new one (i do want every Sonic game in existence, after all)

ESB -1138
Here's my review for Sonic 06.

To begin with let's start with Sonic's Story because that is where you have to start. As you progress through the story you can unlock Shadow's and Silver's Story. Okay first off Sonic has 3 types of levels: standard (think like Sonic Adventure 2), Princess (when you carry the princess around), and March Speed (where you go over 60 frames a second).

The standard levels are about as fun as those from Sonic Adventure 2. But they do suffer from the camera. The camera seems to be focused on trying to force you to blind jump into a location to where you want. Sonic Team hasn't fixed the camera problems. The levels are enjoyable for the most part expect for those few areas (most of which you have to play as Tails and Knuckles as well and sometimes as Shadow or Silver).

The Princess levels suck badly. You run slow and you're basically defenseless against enemy attacks and they pick the worse levels possible to throw her in. You will hate having to do these type of levels.

March Speed levels......GREAT!! I'm sorry but these alone makes the game worth playing. Sonic will run forward without you pushing the joystick forward. Sonic will go faster then anything else in gaming history. The speed you get, the total speed. There's nothing better then going that fast!!

My overall score for Sonic's story: 8/10

Now we more onto Shadow's Story which at first I didn't like but then loved but near the end hated. Okay Shadow has two types: Standard and Vehicle. Yes Sonic Team wants to give Shadow more vehicles.

Okay Standard levels are pretty fun. You run and can perform pretty cool combos to take down powerful foes very quickly. But Shadow seems to go a lot slower in this game then he did in any other game he has been in. All in all these levels are enjoyable until you get closer to the end and then you'll get pissed off a lot.

Next are the vehicles. They suck. The motorcycle turns too sharly, the buggy is a piece of trash, and the hovercraft is useless expect in like 1 or 2 levels. But what vehicle is very fun to use is the kite. That thing is very fun to use but 1 out or 4 vehicles isn't a good thing but the thing is for some rare occasions you don't have to use the vehicles.

My overall score for Shadow's story: 6/10

Now we go to Silver's Story which introduces the physic hedgehog from the future named Silver who is trying to stop Iblis in the past to save his world. Silver has only one type of level: standard. That's it. Oh and Silver moves slow but being able to lift almost anything with physic powers seems cool at first but as you progress you realize how much you hate waiting for the enemy to attack for you to attack it. But Silver's powers are pretty cool considering you can stun the enemy, lift them up, and throw them at another enemy.

My overall score for Silver's story: 7/10

Okay so this isn't the Sonic game that will have everyone say "this is the best Sonic game ever" but with March Speed people will say "it was worth playing it for those moments." And there are some parts of the game you will hate with a passion but threat not for they will pass and you can go back and do March Speed levels.

Overall score: 7/10
Good thing: Sense of speed
Bad thing: Escorting the princess

luffyjin
Hmm just a few bits are not enough to make me want to buy it but i'm going to RARE's game Viva Pinata development studio hopefully so maybe THEY can change my mind...Either way too exspensive + melting of discs makes Xbox 360 very very unstable

ESB -1138
The later 360s don't have that problem of melting of discs as you put it like the first ones did. All new systems have problems with them at first.

General Kaliero
Well this thread got grossly off topic.

Sonic & the Secret Rings is now only a week away. Will it have what it takes to act as a parachute for the Sonic series' headfirst dive in quality?

JToTheP
I personally don't like the mission idea, I'd rather just have 10 levels with 3 acts each or whichever, and have the Sonic 1-3 formula. I'll hopefully get this for my birthday though.

JToTheP
Originally posted by General Kaliero
Well this thread got grossly off topic.

Sonic & the Secret Rings is now only a week away. Will it have what it takes to act as a parachute for the Sonic series' headfirst dive in quality?

The 360 and Ps3 game doesn't harm the classics where they stand, just the new games. The Adventure saga is ALRIGHT, but clearly the original trilogy is best.

((The_Anomaly))
Originally posted by JToTheP
The 360 and Ps3 game doesn't harm the classics where they stand, just the new games. The Adventure saga is ALRIGHT, but clearly the original trilogy is best.

I don't think there's any disputing that.

JToTheP
Well, DC did have it's good games, so some may debate the Adventure Saga over the originals. I wish we got Sonic 4 also. I never got to play Knuckles Chaotix either, I wanna play it on Virtual Console, cuz Knuckles is the best to me.

General Kaliero
I remember when I first played Sonic 3 & Knuckles, and became a complete fanboy for him. Punching and climbing, and maybe the dreadlocks, were all he needed to be cool.

Then the series somehow gets him associated with rap, he gets the most annoying type of levels in the Adventure series (aside from Big), and gets the voice of Yami Yugi. I'm not happy with what has been done to my once-favorite character.

You know he's Sinbad in Secret Rings?

JToTheP
Knuckles is in Secret Rings!? WHAT!?

General Kaliero
Sort of. Sonic's the only playable character in story mode, but several others get cameos as the main characters of the stories you go through. Knux shows up as Sinbad, Tails is Ali Baba, and the good Doctor appears as king of Persia. Likely that there will be a couple others, but those are the ones confirmed.

Arachnid1
Originally posted by General Kaliero
Sort of. Sonic's the only playable character in story mode, but several others get cameos as the main characters of the stories you go through. Knux shows up as Sinbad, Tails is Ali Baba, and the good Doctor appears as king of Persia. Likely that there will be a couple others, but those are the ones confirmed.

Amy is going to be in it as some kind of princess, or thats whats been seen. I was told that eggman is in story mode too. Truthfully, I think everyone in multiplayer and special mode will be in the game but thats just me.

MadMel
theres a mp in secret rings???
I WANTS!! laughing out loud

General Kaliero
Actually a pretty full mp mode, 8 characters and 40 games overall. It seems to play out a lot like Mario Party.

MadMel
WOO!!!
im getting!!!
this and SSBB and battalion wars XD

ESB -1138
Please Sonic Team, please make this a good Sonic game! The last good Sonic game you guys made was Sonic Adventure 2 and even then only the Sonic and Shadow levels were good. Tails and Eggman were horrible. And Knuckles and Rouge had you on a freaking scavenger hunt.

The Sonic games for handhelds were not made by Sonic Team and so far those have been the best Sonic games to come out.

Stop overflooding the games with countless characters!! All you need is Sonic!! That's it! Just Sonic!! Take a lesson from Mario who has many characters as well and yet in Super Mario 64, Super Mario Sunshine, and the up coming Super Mario Galaxy; it was ONLY Mario!! Stop putting Tails, Knuckles, Amy, Shadow, Rouge, Cream, Victor, Espio, Charmy, Big, Omega, and everyone else in every freaking game!!

Who cares if you hurt some fanboy's feelings for not having their favorite character!? I would rather have a wonderfully made Sonic game then a crappy one with the entire cast! The spotlight should go to Sonic alone!!!

General Kaliero
I say that (most of) the rest of the cast can stay, but Sonic should be the only one playable. Because more cast means more story, which can help the game if it's done right.

But I agree, Sonic should get the spotlight; his name's on the box afterall.

ESB -1138
Originally posted by Kayne Archeron
every side-scrolling Sonic game has had Super Sonic... it was just harder to get in the classics

Expect one. But to be fair Super Sonic was made to be a tribute to a Super Saiyan from DBZ. Sonic 2 had a tribute to the biggest thing in the east and west. East being Japan and DBZ got Super Sonic for Super Saiyan and west being USA and Star Wars got the Death Egg for the Death Star.

AstroFan
Originally posted by ESB -1138
Please Sonic Team, please make this a good Sonic game! The last good Sonic game you guys made was Sonic Adventure 2 and even then only the Sonic and Shadow levels were good. Tails and Eggman were horrible. And Knuckles and Rouge had you on a freaking scavenger hunt.


Im pretty sure Sonic team isnt even doing this. Maybe if this new team makes an actual good then Sonic team will get the kick in the ass its needed for a long time.

ESB -1138
Originally posted by AstroFan
Im pretty sure Sonic team isnt even doing this. Maybe if this new team makes an actual good then Sonic team will get the kick in the ass its needed for a long time.

They need to let someone else do a game. These are the same people that did NiGHTS can't even get Sonic (who they are named after) right. And they keep putting in all these DBZ crap.

Arachnid1
I'm sure you all already know this but I'll say it anyways.

3 MORE DAYS UNTILL SONIC AND THE SECRET RINGS COMES OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MadMel
probably not here roll eyes (sarcastic)

ESB -1138
SONIC COMES OUT TOMORROW HERE IN THE USA!!!

General Kaliero
Well, it ships tomorrow. Whether or not you'll be able to get it tomorrow depends on the store you go to, when you go there, and how much the employee you talk to is willing to bend the rules...

blind faith
Is Tails still in the current games? I bought Mega Collection and the Adventure-games a couple of years ago, but then I stopped playing Sonic-games after the Adventure-saga so I'm not very up-to-date with the story and characters.

If there will be a Sonic-game for Wii I hope it will be great.

JToTheP
Is Tails still in the current games? I bought Mega Collection and the Adventure-games a couple of years ago, but then I stopped playing Sonic-games after the Adventure-saga so I'm not very up-to-date with the story and characters.

They didn't put out many games after Adventure 2 on GameCube (Unless you count the 360, Ps3 flop with the same title as the classic original) I don't think. They put out Mega Collection, and Gems Collection.

If there will be a Sonic-game for Wii I hope it will be great.

That's what this thread is, Sonic And The Secret Rings comes out today/tomorrow for Wii.

ESB -1138
Originally posted by General Kaliero
Well, it ships tomorrow. Whether or not you'll be able to get it tomorrow depends on the store you go to, when you go there, and how much the employee you talk to is willing to bend the rules...

I know. Can't get it tomorrow but on the plus side SONIC AND THE SECRET RINGS CAME OUT TODAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and hopefully it won't be a flop like Shadow/Sonic the Hedgehog

blind faith
Originally posted by JToTheP

They didn't put out many games after Adventure 2 on GameCube (Unless you count the 360, Ps3 flop with the same title as the classic original) I don't think. They put out Mega Collection, and Gems Collection.Ah I see...

Originally posted by JToTheP
That's what this thread is, Sonic And The Secret Rings comes out today/tomorrow for Wii. Oh...Damn embarrasment Like I said, I'm not very up-to-date with Sonic-games, but thanks for clearing that up.

General Kaliero
Don't forget Sonic Rush on the DS, JToTheP. The best Sonic game since the original Genesis three.

Also, the Sonic Advance and Sonic Battle games on the GBA seem to be fairly well-received.

On that note, reviews for Secret Rings are coming in now, and they have been very favorable so far. Floating between 8 and 9 out of 10.

JToTheP
Yeah, the lowest review I saw for SR so far was a 7, mostly 8's and 9's. I'm going to buy it tomorrow when I go to Best Buy to buy The PRestige.

I never picked up Sonic Rush, I heard the difficulty is a huge turn off.Originally posted by blind faith
Ah I see...

Oh...Damn embarrasment Like I said, I'm not very up-to-date with Sonic-games, but thanks for clearing that up.

No problem Blind, I'm glad you didn't think I was trying to be a dick. big grin

ESB -1138
I got Sonic and the Secret Rings! I think Sonic Team got a 3D Sonic game right!! For once the camera isn't restricting the game!

General Kaliero
Originally posted by JToTheP
I never picked up Sonic Rush, I heard the difficulty is a huge turn off.

How is the difficulty a turn off? Too easy, or too hard?

JToTheP
Originally posted by General Kaliero
How is the difficulty a turn off? Too easy, or too hard?

I heard it was really hard.

And I'm finding Secret Rings to be awkward to play due to the game play, I'm still glad I bought it though, unlike Red steel.

Kero_Co
I enjoy it. I got to evil foundry yesterday, it was really fun. The only problem is walking backwards, which isn't too difficult with skillful execution of the 1 button. I'm having a difficult time beating Uhl though. I always make 1 mistake at the very beggining or near the end, then he gets a hundred seconds ahead of me almost instantly.

ESB -1138
Originally posted by JToTheP
I heard it was really hard.

And I'm finding Secret Rings to be awkward to play due to the game play, I'm still glad I bought it though, unlike Red steel.

I'm glade I got it also. Unlike the 360/PS3 Sonic. I think it's a clear decision on which out of the two is better. The 360/PS3 Sonic can't compete with Sonic and the Secret Rings when it comes to the sense of speed. I was awe struck when I did a Speed Break and saw nothing but a blur.

General Kaliero
Originally posted by JToTheP
I heard it was really hard.

And I'm finding Secret Rings to be awkward to play due to the game play, I'm still glad I bought it though, unlike Red steel.

Nah, Rush isn't insanely difficult. The last two bosses can get annoying, but what good final bosses aren't?

Only other thing I can think of would be enemies placed in your path during the levels, but that's par for the course as far as 2D Sonic goes.

And now I need to get Secret Rings even more... if I'm forced to wait much longer I might not be able to find it...

ESB -1138
Well the problem I had with Rush is that Sonic and Blaze had the same levels just in a different order. Nothing was changed about them which I found disappointing. Rush wasn't difficult at all like GK said but Secret Rings can get annoying considering you don't even have a split second anymore to react so you have to die a lot until you memorize the level. But you get unlimited lives so it balances out.

Still, Secret Rings (in my opinion) is the best 3D Sonic game.

InnerRise
Originally posted by ESB -1138
Well the problem I had with Rush is that Sonic and Blaze had the same levels just in a different order. Nothing was changed about them which I found disappointing. Rush wasn't difficult at all like GK said but Secret Rings can get annoying considering you don't even have a split second anymore to react so you have to die a lot until you memorize the level. But you get unlimited lives so it balances out.

Still, Secret Rings (in my opinion) is the best 3D Sonic game. I read a review that stated the exact same thing about having such a short time to react and having to die over and over until you memorize the stage.

I wasn't even aware of this game to be honest for the longest time. When I did find out about it I thought it as just the same one that's already on the PS3 and Xbox360 and was now coming to the Nintendo Wii.

Not interested.

anata wa wakarimasu ka.....

JKozzy
Originally posted by General Kaliero
Well, it ships tomorrow. Whether or not you'll be able to get it tomorrow depends on the store you go to, when you go there, and how much the employee you talk to is willing to bend the rules... No, it comes out... it's in stores beforehand for the most part. This goes for where I work (Target) and the local Gamestop/EB. I've heard horror stories of shipping delays from other parts of the country, which is unfortunate.

ESB -1138
I just beat the game (but I still have Gold Medals and such to get) and there is no Super Sonic at all. There's something better. And no it isn't Hyper.

JToTheP
I like this game a lot, but I also find it annoying as hell, and why I find it difficult has nothing to do with the enemies, it's the game play controls.

General Kaliero
Yeah, it's weird, the controls are both good and bad. Good idea, but the technique needs refining.

I've found that, excepting the first level, there's been some area along the course that I dislike. The second stood out the most, I hated those stampeding dinosaurs. But on the other hand each level has also had points where I suddenly realize I'm grinning like a fool.

For the most part, though, I'm enjoying the game. The script is painful at times, and I'm annoyed that I've only unlocked a couple pages in the bonus book aside from the cutscenes, but oh well. It'll take practice I suppose.

MadMel
laughing out loud

Tptmanno1
Yea, I agree completly with Kalilero, except I kinda liked the stampeeding dino's even though I have a hard time getting past them.
But yea, half of the game is wrestling/mastering with the controls...

MadMel
ill think ill just get exite truck instead..

Tptmanno1
I mean, I don't regret buying it persay.. and it has its fun moments. But I haven't heard ANYTHING about Excite truck, good or bad.

General Kaliero
I have Excite Truck. I played it a couple times during the first week... then I stopped. It's not all that great.

In my opinion, Sonic's better if you want a good-looking, fun speed game.

MadMel
damn it theres no good racers on the wii
bawling
i might get it anyway laughing out loud

InnerRise
Excite Truck isn't necessarily bad. It's good for what it's worth and does what it sets out to do. If you want it then get it.

Anata wa wakarimasu ka.....

ESB -1138
Originally posted by MadMel
damn it theres no good racers on the wii
bawling
i might get it anyway laughing out loud

Just wait till Mario Kart comes out for the Wii and you will get your good racer.

MadMel
yup..

JToTheP
Did anybody do that stupid Egg Mission? It bothers the hell out of me.

Arachnid1
I GOT SONIC AND THE SECRET RINGS!!!!!

Now I just need the Wii to play it with but I cant do that because its SOLD OUT EVERYWHERE I GO!!!!! mad

So close yet so far brings a whole new meaning to this.....

General Kaliero
Originally posted by JToTheP
Did anybody do that stupid Egg Mission? It bothers the hell out of me.

The one in Dino Jungle? Yeah, I did it, eventually. That's an annoying course...

IceJaw
Originally posted by Arachnid1
I GOT SONIC AND THE SECRET RINGS!!!!!

Now I just need the Wii to play it with but I cant do that because its SOLD OUT EVERYWHERE I GO!!!!! mad

So close yet so far brings a whole new meaning to this..... Then why did you buy the game in the first place? srug

Arachnid1
Originally posted by IceJaw
Then why did you buy the game in the first place? srug

So I would have the game when I get the Wii.

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