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Onslaught

Odin by a mile. Onslaught was a chump.

Originally posted by Nikkolas
Odin by a mile. Onslaught was a chump.
He had Frankiln Richards inside him

Onslaught if he has franklin richards powers and nate greys.

Odin

Onslaught never had as much access to Franklin's powers as it is assumed

he did make the second sun, but other than that, his reality manip feats are much lower than his psychic feats.

Odin should take this, though on a neutral plane I could see it being drawn out.

onslaught is awfully tough to understand. i think odin could certainly do alone what the heroes did together -- namely shatter his armor. but the "ultimate evolution" of onslaught into that energy form was never really tested so who knows what it could do. i don't think the energy form had frank's power as frank had been freed at that time. so . . . what WAS that energy form capable of?

odin>armored onslaught
energy onslaught???odin . . .

Originally posted by leonidas

energy onslaught???odin . . .
i would like to see that.

Odin would easily defeat the Onslaught that was shown in the comic. However, if Onslaught had been around long enough to fully understand and utilize Nate and Franklin's powers, then he would have been able to win this fight.

Onslaught had little if any access to Franklin's supposed CELESTIAL level powers. To be honest I don't think he had much access to Nate's.

Even if he had all of Nate's, and say like 1% of Franklin that is still not enough to beat Odin.

And if making a star is the height of Onslaught's powers, then Odin is far beyond. Odin was destroyong and creating stars in his battle with Forsung, was consuming the whole 616 universe in The Infinity Saga and dead Odin created a solar system, just as examples.

Originally posted by thtadthtshldntb
Odin was destroyong and creating stars in his battle with Forsung, was consuming the whole 616 universe in The Infinity Saga and dead Odin created a solar system, just as examples.

wow

I didn't realize he was that strong....

Why do people think thanos can beat him then?

Originally posted by inamilist
wow

I didn't realize he was that strong....

Why do people think thanos can beat him then?
why do people think darkseid can beat him then?

Originally posted by inamilist
wow

I didn't realize he was that strong....

Why do people think thanos can beat him then?

I don't know. In the one fight they had, written by Jim "Thanos will never look bad in my hands" Starlin himself, Odin was manhandling Thanos and looked like he was about to get serious when Adam Warlock saved Thanos.

Originally posted by inamilist
wow

I didn't realize he was that strong....

Why do people think thanos can beat him then?

That's because that Odin was from a long time ago before the current power level. That Odin used to dismiss Galactus from his kingdom like nothing. Now, we know Odin can't stand up to Galactus.

Originally posted by thtadthtshldntb
Onslaught had little if any access to Franklin's supposed CELESTIAL level powers. To be honest I don't think he had much access to Nate's.

Even if he had all of Nate's, and say like 1% of Franklin that is still not enough to beat Odin.

And if making a star is the height of Onslaught's powers, then Odin is far beyond. Odin was destroyong and creating stars in his battle with Forsung, was consuming the whole 616 universe in The Infinity Saga and dead Odin created a solar system, just as examples.

Which is why I said if Onslaught had full access to both Nate AND Franklin's powers, then he could defeat Odin. Without Franklin's power, he more than likely falls.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
That's because that Odin was from a long time ago before the current power level. That Odin used to dismiss Galactus from his kingdom like nothing. Now, we know Odin can't stand up to Galactus.
U have scans of galactus and Odin on pannel>? I heard about wat u were saying too.

Originally posted by thtadthtshldntb
And if making a star is the height of Onslaught's powers, then Odin is far beyond. Odin was destroyong and creating stars in his battle with Forsung, was consuming the whole 616 universe in The Infinity Saga and dead Odin created a solar system, just as examples.

any issue numbers for these? i've read . . . a lot of thor and don't recall the arc. you have me very curious.

Ok let me see what I have.

Infinity Saga is like in Thor v1 170-180....let's see what scans I have online

not necessarily in anyorder just what I have in image shack
http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/9387/thor18808on8.jpg
http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/3719/thor18707zr1.jpg
http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/4130/thor18518jj2.jpg

This one is particular...
http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/6007/thor18517hh8.jpg

Odin states that galaxies are being destroyed in his battle with Infinity.

btw, this is not the Abstract Infinity who was a later invention. This is a piece of Odin's mind using the Odinpower to consume the universe. Only Odin was able to stop himself from consuming the whole universe into himself and mindcontrolling the population. He then undid all the damage to countless galaxies and erased almost everyone's memory of the events.

Odin also had a galaxy destroying battle with Seth, somewhere in the 400s, but I don't have those issues.

Odin vs Forsung....these I have to upload.
http://img419.imageshack.us/img419/1557/odinforsung00cy8.jpg

Note, IIRC they are fighting over the Odinrod, which is the second most powerful focus of the Odinforce (it used to be the first, but Oeming retconned Mjollnir to be the most powerful focus for the Odinforce)

I think the battle with Forsung is in the 200s....

dead Odin creating a solar system is in Thor v2 during the Reign, #60
http://img419.imageshack.us/img419/3032/13fw7.jpg
http://img419.imageshack.us/img419/238/14ov2.jpg

Originally posted by thtadthtshldntb
Ok let me see what I have.

Infinity Saga is like in Thor v1 170-180....let's see what scans I have online

not necessarily in anyorder just what I have in image shack
http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/9387/thor18808on8.jpg
http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/3719/thor18707zr1.jpg
http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/4130/thor18518jj2.jpg

This one is particular...
http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/6007/thor18517hh8.jpg

Odin states that galaxies are being destroyed in his battle with Infinity.

btw, this is not the Abstract Infinity who was a later invention. This is a piece of Odin's mind using the Odinpower to consume the universe. Only Odin was able to stop himself from consuming the whole universe into himself and mindcontrolling the population. He then undid all the damage to countless galaxies and erased almost everyone's memory of the events.

Odin also had a galaxy destroying battle with Seth, somewhere in the 400s, but I don't have those issues.

Odin vs Forsung....these I have to upload.
http://img419.imageshack.us/img419/1557/odinforsung00cy8.jpg

Note, IIRC they are fighting over the Odinrod, which is the second most powerful focus of the Odinforce (it used to be the first, but Oeming retconned Mjollnir to be the most powerful focus for the Odinforce)

I think the battle with Forsung is in the 200s....

dead Odin creating a solar system is in Thor v2 during the Reign, #60
http://img419.imageshack.us/img419/3032/13fw7.jpg
http://img419.imageshack.us/img419/238/14ov2.jpg
nice!
do u have any galactus/odin showings?

ahh, i LOVE old odin. i've been saying for a long time on this forum his feats are crazy. problem is, people always bring up his . . . less than impressive feats. back in that era, it was always a question who was the more powerful, odin or galactus. nowadays . . .

anyhow, good scans. no wonder i'd not seen them though -- those first ones are about 40 years old! i've some thor from that era, but not many. well done.

But people, while in real life they are 40 years old.... they only occur like 20-25 years ago in continuity time.

Remember in continuity, Galactus attacked the Earth about 20-25 years ago now.

Odin does have some lower end low showings... and usually they can be explained in continuity by the circumstances and/or the established limits on the characters power (for instance Odin must enter the Odinsleep after using the Odinpower to a certain extent).

no he definitely didn't or Peter would be about 40 years old and Sue and Reed would be about late 40's

Odin really needs himself a respect thread. Any takers?