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There is one day prep for both sides, and they know who they are facing against.

Galactus has just fed and is not hungry.

Originally posted by masterbruce
There is one day prep for both sides, and they know who they are facing against.

Galactus has just fed and is not hungry.

One day of prep??? For STRANGE? Strange ftw.

Originally posted by batdude123
One day of prep??? For STRANGE? Strange ftw.
Normal Galactus has derstroyed the Universe.

Phoenix wins

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Normal Galactus has derstroyed the Universe.

Show me where he did it W/O any use of the Ult. Nullifier.

Originally posted by batdude123
Show me where he did it W/O any use of the Ult. Nullifier.
http://img375.imageshack.us/my.php?image=13vp5.jpg
http://img376.imageshack.us/my.php?image=14xo4.jpg

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
http://img375.imageshack.us/my.php?image=13vp5.jpg
http://img376.imageshack.us/my.php?image=14xo4.jpg

That's called destroying a galaxy.

Originally posted by batdude123
That's called destroying a galaxy.

Oh There's just no pleasing some people, They tell you to go out and destroy something in space. You destroy a galaxy and they complain, "I said a universe" Why'd I ever marry you?

Sorry, ahh good old childhood memories

Originally posted by batdude123
That's called destroying a galaxy.

"And without a sound, the universe behind them soflty and suddenly vanishes away."
Yeah, galaxy. Right.

Originally posted by batdude123
That's called destroying a galaxy.
"and without a sound the Universe softly and suddenly vanishes away"

Originally posted by V for Valentine
Oh There's just no pleasing some people, They tell you to go out and destroy something in space. You destroy a galaxy and they complain, "I said a universe" Why'd I ever marry you?

Sorry, ahh good old childhood memories

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
"and without a sound the Universe softly and suddenly vanishes away"

Sorry, didn't see that.

Anyway, Strange has fought the LT, his very existence was a threat to the entire multiverse, stalemated the IG, etc. etc.

Strange w/ a day of prep wins.

Originally posted by Ultraman Baltan
"And without a sound, the universe behind them soflty and suddenly vanishes away."
Yeah, galaxy. Right.
LOL same post at the same time

Originally posted by batdude123
Sorry, didn't see that.

Anyway, Strange has fought the LT, his very existence was a threat to the entire multiverse, stalemated the IG, etc. etc.

Strange w/ a day of prep wins.
He wasn't fighting LT . LT was just giving him test to accomplish to see how powerfull Strange is.

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
He wasn't fighting LT . LT was just giving him test to accomplish to see how powerfull Strange is.

So? I wasn't implying that he's as powerful as the Living Tribunal.

Anyway, Strange w/ a day of prep wins.

Look, Strange with all his vaunted prep and gods and such only managed to survive an encounter with Death, and negate the effects of the IG. He wasn't overpowering anyone.

There's also the instance him knocking out Big G over Manhattan (not actually fully beating him, and obvious PIS...but Galactus wasn't even fighting back at the time), but again, we're talking about a cosmic force that's on the level of abstracts and infinite beings.

Galactus every time. The Strange hype machine has to come to a stop somewhere.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Look, Strange with all his vaunted prep and gods and such only managed to survive an encounter with Death, and negate the effects of the IG. He wasn't overpowering anyone.

Stalemating the IG is EXTREMELY impressive. In fact, it's almost a little rediculous. And actually, he did technically beat Death.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
There's also the instance him knocking out Big G over Manhattan (not actually fully beating him, and obvious PIS...but Galactus wasn't even fighting back at the time), but again, we're talking about a cosmic force that's on the level of abstracts and infinite beings.

Actually, he's beaten Galactus on another occassion as well.

And did somebody say something about an Infinite?

http://img395.imageshack.us/my.php?image=infinite16ze.jpg
http://img395.imageshack.us/my.php?image=infinite24ap.jpg
http://img398.imageshack.us/my.php?image=infinite32vs.jpg

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Galactus every time. The Strange hype machine has to come to a stop somewhere.

Galactus may win the majority, but he definitely isn't winning every single time.

Originally posted by long pig
Strange vs Death.

Pt.1: Strange, Surfer, Nova and Galactus are killed in a massive blast.
http://img436.imageshack.us/img436/2870/death12hw.th.jpg

Pt.2: None are truly immortal, except one. Strange is the only one who can't die. Unless he chooses to, that is.
http://img439.imageshack.us/img439/1042/death25fa.th.jpg

Pt.3: Death says "I'm taking Galactus with me, if I keep him dead, everyone in the universe dies! How do ya like them apples?!"
Strange, oddly enough, doesn't like them apples one bit and attacks, and knocks Death on her ass.
http://img439.imageshack.us/img439/9297/death30xe.th.jpg

Pt.4: After being knocked on her ass, Death gets testy! Death says "You can't kill Death you dumbshit!", and paralyzes Strange's body with a spell.
http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/2990/death48gz.th.jpg

Pt.5: Strange's power is too much to be held by Death, he shatters Death's spell and breaks free!
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/4605/death57vs.th.jpg

Pt.6: After Death's attacks bounce off Strange's shield, the ancient one tells Strange he will never again fear Death. Strange says he never has, and he gets ready to put her on her ass once more.
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/811/death61jw.th.jpg

Pt.7: Death retreats, and Strange saves Galactus and Surfer and Nova from death.
http://img437.imageshack.us/img437/6421/death73ur.th.jpg

His feats aren't flukes, Digi. He's a bonified abstract level.

Originally posted by Rewmac
Phoenix wins

Wrong.Wolverine wins

Galactus would munch Strange 9/10

Does MasterBruce honestly know who Galactus is?!?

Originally posted by batdude123
Anyway, Strange has fought the LT,

Bats, your kool but your incorrect on this one:


Strange vs LT



LT was never trying to harm Strange, he was testing him to see if he had it in him to save the Planet Earth before LT Erased it.


This is the big wow of the issue for Strange, he breaks free from the Rings of Raggadorr that LT trapped him in.

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/3640/s3ba0.th.jpg


LT here gives Strange another Test, he's Not trying to Harm him in anyway

http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/3962/s4ey4.th.jpg
"Let it then be the Final TEST of my Powers"


Strange says about LT....."I sense a Boundless Force"
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/3045/s2dw7.th.jpg


So LT sends Dr Strange on his mission or else...
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/1761/s5wz2.th.jpg


Strange PLEADS while paying Homage to LT, to spare the Earth momentarily while he tries to fix what's wrong

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/6752/s1ro8.th.jpg



Originally posted by batdude123
his very existence was a threat to the entire multiverse,

Originally posted by batdude123
stalemated the IG


Warlock Never tried to hurt Strange, he was trying to convince him to concede to his PLAN of eradicating ALL Evil from the Universe.


So he used the Gems on Strange, INDIVIDUALLY (ONE by ONE) ON THEIR OWN!


Time Gem:

First: Warlock tries to make him see his PLAN in the Future.
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/4307/s2hi5.th.jpg
"but IF TIME will Not make You reconsider Your Opposition to my Scheme"



Space Gem:

Second: Warlock sends him deep in Space (into darkness), to scare Strange
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/6199/s3qt8.th.jpg
"Then if Time and Space hold No TERRORS for you" (he only mentioned Time because he had just used it before, check the issue if you wish)



Reality Gem:

Third: Warlock warps the Reality around them, attempting to mess with their senses
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/9317/s4mw5.th.jpg
"How do you Reason Out a defense, when Reason itself shift its stance?"



Mind Gem:

Fourth: Warlock uses the Mind
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/5918/s5rv5.th.jpg
"If my MIND GEM cannot seduce you from your purpose, THEN...I will Strike at You"


The ONLY time Warlock actually tried to hurt Strange, was WHEN he used the Power Gem....the Power Gem, ALONE!



Power Gem:

"But Knowing in ADVANCE that Warlock Possessed it" (Power Gem)
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/3659/s6cx9.th.jpg
"I had Arranged for ALL My TALISMANS to Act TOGETHER to COUNTERACT it"


Dr Strange WITH PREP, used ALL of his TALISMANS TOGETHER as ONE, to battle the Power Gem ALONE, and STILL, was going to be DESTROYED in TWO Panels.

By the POWER GEM ALONE!


"Which even I KNOW, almost at once, CANNOT LONG ENDURE" (and this is ONLY the Power Gem)
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/4613/s7it8.th.jpg
"Warlock STILL has NOT used his Sixth and Final Weapon"


SEE, Warlock was USING the Gems SEPARATELY!


Soul Gem:

Strange reaches Warlock through his Soul Gem to communicate with him
http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/56/s8yh0.th.jpg


Strange tells Warlock of the Future, and Warlock sees that it is true


This is Strange talking:

"He sees himself Victorious over me, DESTROYING Me, as must certainly happen ANY moment Now"
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/6055/s9me6.th.jpg



Warlock ALWAYS Knew the outcome of this drama
http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/5962/s10by0.th.jpg

There are only TWO instances in that issue where Warlock uses his true Power.



Here he completely overwrites Dr Strange's ability, when Strange evokes Oshtur's name (One of the Three Vishanti)
http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/4494/s13ro5.th.jpg



Here Warlock is juggling the Solar System at an incredible speed, without harming anything
http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/9074/s11xy9.th.jpg


He puts the Solar System back into Orbit like nothing
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/9195/s12fb5.th.jpg


And that's it.

Originally posted by batdude123
And actually, he did technically beat Death.

Death, in terms of raw power is a joke in the Cosmic hierarchy.

Death's true power stems from it's authority over the concept it embodies.

And it's probably the most difficult entity to kill next to Oblivion.

.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Bats, your kool but your incorrect on this one:


Strange vs LT



LT was never trying to harm Strange, he was testing him to see if he had it in him to save the Planet Earth before LT Erased it.


This is the big wow of the issue for Strange, he breaks free from the Rings of Raggadorr that LT trapped him in.

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/3640/s3ba0.th.jpg


LT here gives Strange another Test, he's Not trying to Harm him in anyway

http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/3962/s4ey4.th.jpg
"Let it then be the Final TEST of my Powers"


Strange says about LT....."I sense a Boundless Force"
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/3045/s2dw7.th.jpg


So LT sends Dr Strange on his mission or else...
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/1761/s5wz2.th.jpg


Strange PLEADS while paying Homage to LT, to spare the Earth momentarily while he tries to fix what's wrong

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/6752/s1ro8.th.jpg

I wasn't trying to say that he beat, or even fought the LT on equal grounds. He did however impress the LT.

Originally posted by Mr Master


LAUGH IT UP, MR. MASTER!!!

http://img216.imageshack.us/my.php?image=drstrange042wm1.jpg

Originally posted by Mr Master
Warlock Never tried to hurt Strange, he was trying to convince him to concede to his PLAN of eradicating ALL Evil from the Universe.


So he used the Gems on Strange, INDIVIDUALLY (ONE by ONE) ON THEIR OWN!


Time Gem:

First: Warlock tries to make him see his PLAN in the Future.
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/4307/s2hi5.th.jpg
"but IF TIME will Not make You reconsider Your Opposition to my Scheme"



Space Gem:

Second: Warlock sends him deep in Space (into darkness), to scare Strange
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/6199/s3qt8.th.jpg
"Then if Time and Space hold No TERRORS for you" (he only mentioned Time because he had just used it before, check the issue if you wish)



Reality Gem:

Third: Warlock warps the Reality around them, attempting to mess with their senses
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/9317/s4mw5.th.jpg
"How do you Reason Out a defense, when Reason itself shift its stance?"



Mind Gem:

Fourth: Warlock uses the Mind
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/5918/s5rv5.th.jpg
"If my MIND GEM cannot seduce you from your purpose, THEN...I will Strike at You"


The ONLY time Warlock actually tried to hurt Strange, was WHEN he used the Power Gem....the Power Gem, ALONE!



Power Gem:

"But Knowing in ADVANCE that Warlock Possessed it" (Power Gem)
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/3659/s6cx9.th.jpg
"I had Arranged for ALL My TALISMANS to Act TOGETHER to COUNTERACT it"


Dr Strange WITH PREP, used ALL of his TALISMANS TOGETHER as ONE, to battle the Power Gem ALONE, and STILL, was going to be DESTROYED in TWO Panels.

By the POWER GEM ALONE!


"Which even I KNOW, almost at once, CANNOT LONG ENDURE" (and this is ONLY the Power Gem)
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/4613/s7it8.th.jpg
"Warlock STILL has NOT used his Sixth and Final Weapon"


SEE, Warlock was USING the Gems SEPARATELY!


Soul Gem:

Strange reaches Warlock through his Soul Gem to communicate with him
http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/56/s8yh0.th.jpg


Strange tells Warlock of the Future, and Warlock sees that it is true


This is Strange talking:

"He sees himself Victorious over me, DESTROYING Me, as must certainly happen ANY moment Now"
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/6055/s9me6.th.jpg



Warlock ALWAYS Knew the outcome of this drama
http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/5962/s10by0.th.jpg

I was mainly talking about this incident, where he negates the IG.

http://img232.imageshack.us/my.php?image=igfeat4hq.jpg

Originally posted by Mr Master
Death, in terms of raw power is a joke in the Cosmic hierarchy.

Death's true power stems from it's authority over the concept it embodies.

And it's probably the most difficult entity to kill next to Oblivion.

Strange has beaten enough abstract-level characters to make me think that this would be a good fight.

Originally posted by batdude123
I wasn't trying to say that he beat, or even fought the LT on equal grounds. He did however impress the LT.

You said he fought LT, he never did.


Originally posted by batdude123
LAUGH IT UP, MR. MASTER!!!

http://img216.imageshack.us/my.php?image=drstrange042wm1.jpg

So Strange is a child with ALL of his Talismans (which is ALL of his power) and PREP against the Power Gem ALONE, but he's a Multiversal threat.


Where's that clip from, I bet there's more to that story than that one scan.


I sense PIS there that rivals the arc where Dormammu and Umar killed Eternity.


Dormammu had mystically Bonded his Power with his Sister's Umar, and the only reason they were able to defeat Eternity is because of a SHIFT in the Cosmic Axis, which made the Impossible, Possible, (like Dormammu and Umar harming Eternity)

Basically PIS.

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/9042/u3jv6.th.jpg


The win was so definite, there wasn't even a battle

It Begins, Last page of the issue.

http://img275.imageshack.us/img275/8427/d1up1.th.jpg

It Ends, First page of the following issue, lol.

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/4020/d2ce0.th.jpg

Pure Crap.



Even the Editors of Marvel Disrespected the Writers of that series for going so far into the realm of PIS:

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/6589/et3dg1.th.jpg


Here's the Full Page:

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/9255/et4dm3.th.jpg

Originally posted by batdude123
I was mainly talking about this incident, where he negates the IG.

http://img232.imageshack.us/my.php?image=igfeat4hq.jpg

You mean avoiding being teleported away by a Nebula controlled IG.

That's all she tried to do.


Nebula's ability to handle the IG was WAYYYY below Thanos's or Warlock's.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Warlock Never tried to hurt Strange, he was trying to convince him to concede to his PLAN of eradicating ALL Evil from the Universe.

Well... in that case Strange won

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/7854/strangeub0.th.jpg

Originally posted by Mr Master
You said he fought LT, he never did.

Fine... sparr, train, be tested... whatever.



Originally posted by Mr Master
So Strange is a child with ALL of his Talismans (which is ALL of his power) and PREP against the Power Gem ALONE, but he's a Multiversal threat.

His power is basically universal, but some of his feats are just insane.

He's obviously worthy enough to view TOAA (God). Mordu went insane at the sight of him (TOAA)

Originally posted by long pig
Strange time travels back to the birth of Earth with none other than God himself, or TOAA. Mordo went insane at the sight of God.
http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/6241/toaa2md.th.jpg
http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/5776/toaa20sn.th.jpg
http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/2603/toaa39ct.th.jpg

Here's another feat expressing Strange's power level:

Originally posted by long pig
The Living Tribunal & In-Betweener attack Strange because his power has unbalanced the universe, they decide to kill Dr.Strange.

You'd think they'd own him, but, no, not really.

LT goes as far as to save the In-Betweener from Strange's ability to use Chaos and Order...
LT ends up failing to keep Strange from reaching his goal.

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/694/ibet10wf.th.jpg
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/6793/inbe26ta.th.jpg
http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/962/inbe38cg.th.jpg

And here he mind f*cks every single being in a different dimension, and then completely destroys it (that UNIVERSE).

http://photos1.blogger.com/img/198/4480/640/strange%20tales%2051.jpg

etc. etc. etc.

Originally posted by thedude1948
Well... in that case Strange won

Yes, in THAT CASE, he did.

In a battle, he would of been ERASED though.

Genesis is not TOAA. He went to the origin, and remade everything. No more then what Entropy did, and Entropy is certainly not TOAA.

Originally posted by batdude123
His power is basically universal, but some of his feats are just insane.

"Universal"?

He couldn't even last for TWO panels against the Power Gem ALONE and he had PREP and ALL of his TALISMANS TOGETHER as ONE, what are you talking about.



Originally posted by batdude123
He's obviously worthy enough to view TOAA (God). Mordu went insane at the sight of him (TOAA)

Oh my, now I see where you went wrong wrong.

Your picking scans from that warped respect thread.

"TOAA"?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Wait a minute, still LOL!


Originally posted by batdude123
Here's another feat expressing Strange's power level:

What a load of fallacious scans.

That's from Rom #41,

LT NEVER attacked Strange as the person who posted that nonsense implies, he only battled the In-Betweener and LOST!


Originally posted by batdude123
And here he mind f*cks every single being in a different dimension, and then completely destroys it (that UNIVERSE).

http://photos1.blogger.com/img/198/4480/640/strange%20tales%2051.jpg

The link doesn't work, but I'm sure it's more exaggeration from the respect thread.

Just like Strange "stalemating the IG"

Or "Strange fighting LT"

Or "Strange seeing TOAA"

Which is the funniest of all of those fantasies.

Originally posted by Mr Master


Here's the Full Page:

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/9255/et4dm3.th.jpg


Does anyone else see that? i swear the deathstar is in that picture, towards the middle bottomish

Originally posted by King Kandy
Genesis is not TOAA. He went to the origin, and remade everything. No more then what Entropy did, and Entropy is certainly not TOAA.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Galactus every time. The Strange hype machine has to come to a stop somewhere.

Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
Does anyone else see that? i swear the deathstar is in that picture, towards the middle bottomish
You're right.

And it's a bad scan. It's probably even clearer in better image quality.

Originally posted by Mr Master
"Universal"?

He couldn't even last for TWO panels against the Power Gem ALONE and he had PREP and ALL of his TALISMANS TOGETHER as ONE, what are you talking about.

So "losing" (he never really did lose) against the Infinity Gauntlet is a bad feat ? The only person that has better feats against the Infinity Gauntlet than Strange is the Living Tribunal....

Anyways... I think a well fed Galactus takes this 8/10, It wont be easy for him considering how good Strange's defense is, but Galactus should still win.

Originally posted by King Kandy
You're right.

And it's a bad scan. It's probably even clearer in better image quality.

yeah, i treid to zoom using windows magnifier but its still kinda fuzzy, but that crator on top is pertty smokeing gunn-ish

Originally posted by Mr Master
"Universal"?

He couldn't even last for TWO panels against the Power Gem ALONE and he had PREP and ALL of his TALISMANS TOGETHER as ONE, what are you talking about.

I'm not only going by one feat of his power like you are. He DOES have other feats, you know.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Oh my, now I see where you went wrong wrong.

Your picking scans from that warped respect thread.

"TOAA"?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Wait a minute, still LOL!

Okay... maybe not.

Originally posted by Mr Master
What a load of fallacious scans.

That's from Rom #41,

LT NEVER attacked Strange as the person who posted that nonsense implies, he only battled the In-Betweener and LOST!

Well here's him beating the In-Betweener on a different occassion.

http://img202.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ib17wg.jpg
http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ib22ut.jpg
http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ib31wr.jpg

Originally posted by Mr Master
The link doesn't work, but I'm sure it's more exaggeration from the respect thread.

Just like Strange "stalemating the IG"

Or "Strange fighting LT"

Or "Strange seeing TOAA"

Which is the funniest of all of those fantasies.

Refresh the page, or take off the IMG tags. It's clearly shown that Strange destroys that dimension.

Originally posted by thedude1948
So "losing" (he never really did lose) against the Infinity Gauntlet is a bad feat ?

He never battled the Infinity Gauntlet, NEVER!


He battled the POWER GEM ALONE!!


With PREP and ALL of his TALISMANS as ONE, and STILL was going to be DESTROYED in TWO Panels.


Originally posted by thedude1948
The only person that has better feats against the Infinity Gauntlet than Strange is the Living Tribunal....

Unfortunately for your post,

Strange NEVER BATTLED the IG, NOT EVER!!!

What is wrong with you, posting that ROM scan. If it does anything, it discredits Strange.

He isn't beating the LT in those scans. He isn't even beating the In-Betweener in those scans.

He's getting OWNED by the In-Betweener.

And as for LT, if Strange gets Owned by the In-Betweener, we know how LT would go, if they fought.

Originally posted by batdude123
I'm not only going by one feat of his power like you are. He DOES have other feats, you know.

NEVER destroying a Universe, that's for sure.


Originally posted by batdude123
Well here's him beating the In-Betweener on a different occassion.

http://img202.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ib17wg.jpg
http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ib22ut.jpg
http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ib31wr.jpg

By using the power of Chaos and Order, the creators of the Inbetweener.

If he tried that stunt on Warlock or Thanos with the IG he would still get ERASED with a thought.


Originally posted by batdude123
Refresh the page, or take off the IMG tags. It's clearly shown that Strange destroys that dimension.

I still can't get it to work.

Originally posted by King Kandy
What is wrong with you, posting that ROM scan. If it does anything, it discredits Strange.

He isn't beating the LT in those scans. He isn't even beating the In-Betweener in those scans.

He's getting OWNED by the In-Betweener.

And as for LT, if Strange gets Owned by the In-Betweener, we know how LT would go, if they fought.



KK on a roll...

Originally posted by King Kandy
What is wrong with you, posting that ROM scan. If it does anything, it discredits Strange.

He isn't beating the LT in those scans. He isn't even beating the In-Betweener in those scans.

He's getting OWNED by the In-Betweener.

And as for LT, if Strange gets Owned by the In-Betweener, we know how LT would go, if they fought.

We already covered this.

Originally posted by Mr Master
By using the power of Chaos and Order, the creators of the Inbetweener.

If he tried that stunt on Warlock or Thanos with the IG he would still get ERASED with a thought.
Galactus's powers are equal to the In-Betweener's.

But the strategy he used wouldn't work, because Galactus isn't the balance point of Chaos and Order.

He IS the balance point of Eternity and Death, but that wouldn't work either.

for two reasons.

1: Strange can't call on Eternity and Death.
2: Galactus's powers are of neither, unlike the In-Betweener's powers, which are a combination of both.

sorry bats -- g wins. with LOADS of prep AND doom with him mephisto still beat his arse in hell. g's vulnerability to magic is grossly overrated on the forum and just because strange can knock g off his pins (something ben GRIMM has done . . .) does NOT mean he plays in g's league.

hell, strange himself has said ss is more powerful than he is. debateable perhaps, but still . . .

and the only reason strange beat the in-betweener in those scans is because order and chaos ALLOWED strange to tap into their power -- the very SAME powers that CREATED inbetweener. otherwise, he'd have been screwed. g is on the level of the beings strange calls upon for power. he's beyond strange unless there are some really whacked out stipulations thrown in -- ie allow strange to call on eternity . . .

g 10/10

Originally posted by King Kandy
Galactus's powers are equal to the In-Betweener's.

But the strategy he used wouldn't work, because Galactus isn't the balance point of Chaos and Order.

He IS the balance point of Eternity and Death, but that wouldn't work either.

for two reasons.

1: Strange can't call on Eternity and Death.
2: Galactus's powers are of neither, unlike the In-Betweener's powers, which are a combination of both.

nice.

Originally posted by leonidas
sorry bats -- g wins. with LOADS of prep AND doom with him mephisto still beat his arse in hell. g's vulnerability to magic is grossly overrated on the forum and just because strange can knock g off his pins (something ben GRIMM has done . . .) does NOT mean he plays in g's league.

hell, strange himself has said ss is more powerful than he is. debateable perhaps, but still . . .

and the only reason strange beat the in-betweener in those scans is because order and chaos ALLOWED strange to tap into their power -- the very SAME powers that CREATED inbetweener. otherwise, he'd have been screwed. g is on the level of the beings strange calls upon for power. he's beyond strange unless there are some really whacked out stipulations thrown in -- ie allow strange to call on eternity . . .

g 10/10

Originally posted by King Kandy
Galactus's powers are equal to the In-Betweener's.

But the strategy he used wouldn't work, because Galactus isn't the balance point of Chaos and Order.

He IS the balance point of Eternity and Death, but that wouldn't work either.

for two reasons.

1: Strange can't call on Eternity and Death.
2: Galactus's powers are of neither, unlike the In-Betweener's powers, which are a combination of both.

Well put.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Well put.
It's a good day for me.

Eternity blew Strange off whenever he asked for shit, and Strange KNEW he couldn't do anything about.

Eternity won't help him.

And Death's still pissed at him.

Originally posted by Mr Master
NEVER destroying a Universe, that's for sure.




By using the power of Chaos and Order, the creators of the Inbetweener.

If he tried that stunt on Warlock or Thanos with the IG he would still get ERASED with a thought.




I still can't get it to work.

Try this:

http://photos1.blogger.com/img/198/4480/640/strange%20tales%2051.jpg

You also have to remember the times he's pwned Mephisto (and Satannish at the same time), an Infinite, Dormammu, Shuma Gorath, etc.

Originally posted by batdude123
Try this:

http://photos1.blogger.com/img/198/4480/640/strange%20tales%2051.jpg

You also have to remember the times he's pwned Mephisto (and Satannish at the same time), an Infinite, Dormammu, Shuma Gorath, etc.
still can't see it. It says I'm unauthorized.

Originally posted by batdude123
Try this:

http://photos1.blogger.com/img/198/4480/640/strange%20tales%2051.jpg

You also have to remember the times he's pwned Mephisto (and Satannish at the same time), an Infinite, Dormammu, Shuma Gorath, etc.

scan doesn't work and show me where he alone has owned either mephisto OR satannish? not saying 100% it HASN'T happened, but i can't think of an instance off-top of my head where he beat either, alone, without aid, 1on1. he TRICKED them into battling each other once and had loads of help to finally get rid of them.

Originally posted by leonidas
sorry bats -- g wins. with LOADS of prep AND doom with him mephisto still beat his arse in hell. g's vulnerability to magic is grossly overrated on the forum and just because strange can knock g off his pins (something ben GRIMM has done . . .) does NOT mean he plays in g's league.

hell, strange himself has said ss is more powerful than he is. debateable perhaps, but still . . .

and the only reason strange beat the in-betweener in those scans is because order and chaos ALLOWED strange to tap into their power -- the very SAME powers that CREATED inbetweener. otherwise, he'd have been screwed. g is on the level of the beings strange calls upon for power. he's beyond strange unless there are some really whacked out stipulations thrown in -- ie allow strange to call on eternity . . .

g 10/10

Strange beat Mephisto and Satannish at the same time.

Strange has pwned Surfer and Thanos at the same time, and he also beat Surfer when SS was alone. I don't understand why Stephen would say that.

Yeah, but he's beaten other omnipotent beings as well.

I agree Galactus wins. Even though he may win 10/10, in those fights, he'd be given a hard time.

Thank you Mr. Master, King Kandy, and Leo for stopping Batdudes misguided Strange fanboy rush.

Originally posted by batdude123
Strange beat Mephisto and Satannish at the same time.

Strange has pwned Surfer and Thanos at the same time, and he also beat Surfer when SS was alone. I don't understand why Stephen would say that.

Yeah, but he's beaten other omnipotent beings as well.

I'd like to see scans of all four of these incidents.

They sound interesting.

Originally posted by Mr Master
He couldn't even last for TWO panels against the Power Gem ALONE and he had PREP and ALL of his TALISMANS TOGETHER as ONE, what are you talking about.

You make it sound like he was easily overpowered, he was actually stalemating Adam for awhile, until he realised a way to stop him, that is why it didn't last over two panels.

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/7217/strangestalemateqr3.th.jpg

Originally posted by batdude123
Strange beat Mephisto and Satannish at the same time.

nah, not in the way you're implying. that was the faust arc. he had loads of help and satannish and mephisto basically ignored him and took on each other. the details of how he banished (not ko'd or "beat" them i'd need to look up. but to say he beat meph and satannish at the same time would be grossly misleading.

Originally posted by King Kandy
still can't see it. It says I'm unauthorized.

Really? Wow, I can see it just fine. hmm

And yeah leo, that's the time I'm referring to.

Originally posted by batdude123
Really? Wow, I can see it just fine. hmm

And yeah leo, that's the time I'm referring to.
Were you the one who uploaded it?

Originally posted by leonidas
nah, not in the way you're implying. that was the faust arc. he had loads of help and satannish and mephisto basically ignored him and took on each other. the details of how he banished (not ko'd or "beat" them i'd need to look up. but to say he beat meph and satannish at the same time would be grossly misleading.

I'm not trying to be. It was his spell that ultimately defeated both of them.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Were you the one who uploaded it?

No, I didn't scan that image.

I'll get you your other scans in a bit.

Originally posted by batdude123
No, I didn't scan that image.

I'll get you your other scans in a bit.
I mean, did you put it in that particular upload board? Is it under your account?

Originally posted by Mr Master
With PREP and ALL of his TALISMANS as ONE, and STILL was going to be DESTROYED in TWO Panels. Could have, Would have, the fact is he didn't.


Originally posted by Mr Master
Unfortunately for your post,

Strange NEVER BATTLED the IG, NOT EVER!!!
Okay, I guess he has never truly battled against it but he has counteracted it.

Originally posted by thedude1948
Okay, I guess he has never truly battled against it but he has counteracted it.
ONE GEM!

Originally posted by King Kandy
ONE GEM!
Thats great , but I wasn't talking about that scene, I was talking about the one with Nebula. (Yes she isnt as effective with the IG than Adam or Thanos is, but she still is still pretty powerful...)

Originally posted by thedude1948
Thats great , but I wasn't talking about that scene, I was talking about the one with Nebula.
Oh. Nevermind, then.

But what was he accomplishing, again? Staying in the same location, and keeping his memory?

Originally posted by King Kandy
Oh. Nevermind, then.

But what was he accomplishing, again? Staying in the same location, and keeping his memory?

She basically warped the universe to be the same as it was 24 hours before.
http://img247.imageshack.us/my.php?image=counteractigms2.jpg

This brought back to life 1/2 the universe that were dead because of Thanos (and other things).
http://img49.imageshack.us/my.php?image=counteractig3fk6.jpg
http://img201.imageshack.us/my.php?image=counteractig4dt4.jpg

The only people who were not affected by this were the people that Strange shielded.
http://img429.imageshack.us/my.php?image=counteractig2jg4.jpg

Even some of the cosmic beings were effected.
http://img149.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ig1ki8.jpg

Galactus and Dr. Strange decide to team-up and banish
masterbruce from this plane of existence.

They've had enough of his nonsense as well.

Originally posted by thedude1948
She basically warped the universe to be the same as it was 24 hours before.
http://img247.imageshack.us/my.php?image=counteractigms2.jpg

This brought back to life 1/2 the universe that were dead because of Thanos (and other things).
http://img49.imageshack.us/my.php?image=counteractig3fk6.jpg
http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/2807/counteractig4dt4.jpg

The only people who were not affected by this were the people that Strange shielded.
http://img429.imageshack.us/my.php?image=counteractig2jg4.jpg

Even some of the cosmic beings were effected.
http://img149.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ig1ki8.jpg
He's still only blocking one gem. The time gem.

Originally posted by thedude1948
You make it sound like he was easily overpowered, he was actually stalemating Adam for awhile, until he realised a way to stop him, that is why it didn't last over two panels.

"Stalemating"?


Dude, we've had discussions before, why are you reaching into the non-existent?


"Which even I KNOW, almost at once ("Stalemating?" you said), CANNOT LONG ENDURE"

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/4613/s7it8.th.jpg



"He sees himself Victorious over me, DESTROYING Me, as must certainly happen ANY moment Now"
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/6055/s9me6.th.jpg


He was EASILY OVERPOWERED like a child and it didn't last over TWO panels cause in the THIRD Panel as Strange SAYS HIMSELF, he WAS DESTROYED


Let it go my friend and except the FACT,


Dr Stange with ALL of his TALISMANS together as ONE, was insignificant to the Power GEM ALONE, period.

Originally posted by King Kandy
He's still only blocking one gem. The time gem.

If that is how you see this, then you can basically divide EVERYTHING the Infinity Gauntlet has ever done into the six different gem categories. Please show me when the Time gem ALONE has ever done anything close to that...

Originally posted by Mr Master



Let it go my friend and except the FACT,



*Accept

Originally posted by thedude1948
If that is how you see this, then you can basically divide EVERYTHING the Infinity Gauntlet has ever done into the six different gem categories. Please show me when the Time gem ALONE has ever done anything close to that...
Okay. Time gem backed by Power gem, bringing out it's fullest potential, with Reality, Space, Mind and Sould stabilizing it.

THERE! a perfectly accurate assesment.

Originally posted by Mr Master
"Stalemating"?


Dude, we've had discussions before, why are you reaching into the non-existent?


"Which even I KNOW, almost at once ("Stalemating?" you said), CANNOT LONG ENDURE"

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/1553/strangestalemateyi7.th.jpg
He was matching Adam's power, he was going to lose but he still was able to stalemate him at least momentarily.


Originally posted by Mr Master
"He sees himself Victorious over me, DESTROYING Me, as must certainly happen ANY moment Now"
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/6055/s9me6.th.jpg


He was EASILY OVERPOWERED like a child and it didn't last over TWO panels cause in the THIRD Panel as Strange SAYS HIMSELF, he WAS DESTROYED


Let it go my friend and except the FACT,

Dr Strange with ALL of his TALISMANS together as ONE, was insignificant to the Power GEM ALONE, period.
I wouldn't say insignificant but I do agree Adam Warlock using the Power Gem from the Infinity Gauntlet would have eventually beat Strange if Strange stayed there going against him power for power (which is stupid since you cant overpower the Power Gem, Strange realized this and that is why he wasn't destroyed).

Originally posted by King Kandy
I'd like to see scans of all four of these incidents.

They sound interesting.

Strange vs. Satannish and Mephisto:

http://img433.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vssatameph10px.jpg
http://img441.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vssatameph23dj.jpg
http://img441.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vssatameph30ia.jpg

He wins... sorta.

1. Strange putting Surfer in a bubble and cancelling out his powers:

http://img158.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bubbleqt3.jpg

2. One-shotting Thanos and Surfer:
http://img468.imageshack.us/my.php?image=surfstrange20wu.jpg
Then, he shackles them both and throws them to another dimension:
http://img487.imageshack.us/my.php?image=surfstrange39lk.jpg

Galactus fight:

http://img340.imageshack.us/my.php?image=galacko5uf.jpg

Shuma Gorath fight:

http://img136.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shuma13tc.jpg
http://img358.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shuma27no.jpg

Telepathic fight with Umar:

http://img136.imageshack.us/my.php?image=umar1ff.jpg

More Shuma fighting:

http://img213.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shuma10qy.jpg
http://img213.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shuma27xe.jpg
http://img231.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shuma34hz.jpg
http://img231.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shuma41gu.jpg
http://img347.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shuma57am.jpg
http://img347.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shuma57am.jpg
http://img381.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shuma65qc.jpg
http://img221.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shuma78yk.jpg

Infinite being:

http://img395.imageshack.us/my.php?image=infinite16ze.jpg
http://img395.imageshack.us/my.php?image=infinite24ap.jpg
http://img398.imageshack.us/my.php?image=infinite32vs.jpg

Death:

http://img436.imageshack.us/my.php?image=death12hw.jpg
http://img439.imageshack.us/my.php?image=death25fa.jpg
http://img439.imageshack.us/my.php?image=death30xe.jpg
http://img383.imageshack.us/my.php?image=death48gz.jpg
http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=death57vs.jpg
http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=death61jw.jpg
http://img437.imageshack.us/my.php?image=death73ur.jpg

Dr.Strange defeats the Cyttorak-level being God of illusions named Ikon.

http://img362.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ikon24mf.jpg
http://img435.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ikon34zo.jpg

Dormammu:

http://img291.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vsdorm010wp.jpg
http://img443.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vsdorm025bb.jpg
http://img293.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vsdorm038ly.jpg
http://img293.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vsdorm046az.jpg

Beating Shuma again:

http://img89.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vfxmarvelknights427017kr0.jpg
http://img208.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vfxmarvelknights427021rw2.jpg

etc.

Originally posted by thedude1948
She basically warped the universe to be the same as it was 24 hours before.
http://img247.imageshack.us/my.php?image=counteractigms2.jpg




Which means What?


1. Nebula Resurrected Half the Population of the Universe and returned the Heroes back to Earth:

http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/8064/n1ce1.th.jpg


2. Nebula returns a SINGLE Frozen Planet to it's proper orbit:

http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/2605/n2xh6.th.jpg


3. Nebula releases the Cosmics, EXCLUDING ETERNITY who was not part of this party:

ETERNITY was RELEASED the Instant Thanos lost the IG.



If this is what you call warping the Universe, your sure are easily impressed.

Nebula DIDN'T Warp any Universe NOT then, NOT ever.

Your SS and Thanos scans are wrong. They don't showm him shackiling them at all. Or bubbling surfur. I think you used the wrong scans.

His frist Shuma battle was just him killing the enfeebled old man who was bonding Shuma to this dimension.

Thw infinite being was smacking him around in those scans.

Dormammu only lost because his own power was limiting itself.

Originally posted by Mr Master



Which means What?


1. Nebula Resurrected Half the Population of the Universe and returned the Heroes back to Earth:

http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/8064/n1ce1.th.jpg


2. Nebula returns a SINGLE Frozen Planet to it's proper orbit:

http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/2605/n2xh6.th.jpg


3. Nebula releases the Cosmics, EXCLUDING ETERNITY who was not part of this party:

ETERNITY was RELEASED the Instant Thanos lost the IG.



If this is what you call warping the Universe, your sure are easily impressed.

Nebula DIDN'T Warp any Universe NOT then, NOT ever.
She did warp the universe. She literally set time back 24 hours.

Originally posted by thedude1948
Could have, Would have, the fact is he didn't.

"Could have, should have?"

Jeez, your a fan aren't you.

"He sees himself Victorious over me, DESTROYING Me, as must certainly happen ANY moment Now"
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/6055/s9me6.th.jpg

He was peering into the Future guy.


That's not a "could have, should have"

That's a "WILL HAPPEN, DID HAPPEN" if Warlcok didn't stop.


Originally posted by thedude1948
Okay, I guess he has never truly battled against it but he has counteracted it.

meh,

He merely avoided being teleported away by Nebula controlled IG.

Warlock and ONLY the POWER GEM was going to DESTROY Strange with PREP and ALL of his TALISMANS together, like a child.

Originally posted by Zahit
Galactus and Dr. Strange decide to team-up and banish
masterbruce from this plane of existence.

They've had enough of his nonsense as well.

Originally posted by Mr Master

If this is what you call warping the Universe, your sure are easily impressed.
Nebula DIDN'T Warp any Universe NOT then, NOT ever.

She changed EVERYTHING to be exactly as it was 24 hours before. You can interpret that as you want.

Originally posted by King Kandy
She did warp the universe. She literally set time back 24 hours.

Yea,

you see the feats that were performed 24 hours ago.


1. Nebula Resurrected Half the Population of the Universe and returned the Heroes back to Earth:

http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/8064/n1ce1.th.jpg


2. Nebula returns a SINGLE Frozen Planet to it's proper orbit:

http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/2605/n2xh6.th.jpg


That's not a Universal Warp.

That's altering specific events with in said Universe.

And these SPECIFIC EVENTS Include what I just posted as scans, which translates to a joke, in compariosn with a true Universasl Warp.

Like HOM Wanda and a host of others have accomplished.

Originally posted by thedude1948
She changed EVERYTHING to be exactly as it was 24 hours before. You can interpret that as you want.

And WHAT is EVERYTHING?


AGAIN:


1. Nebula Resurrected Half the Population of the Universe and returned the Heroes back to Earth:

http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/8064/n1ce1.th.jpg


2. Nebula returns a SINGLE Frozen Planet to it's proper orbit:

http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/2605/n2xh6.th.jpg


Come on, get real.

INDIVIDUALS (which NONE were COSMICS) and ONE PLANET, nowadays makes up the UNIVERSE in your opinion?

Originally posted by Mr Master
INDIVIDUALS (which NONE were COSMICS) and ONE PLANET, nowadays makes up the UNIVERSE in your opinion?

Just as Universal as warping earth and making Magneto the ruler of it.

Just because that's what they show, doesn't mean that's all that happened. She said "let everything be as it was 24 hours ago."

And TA-DA, everythings like it was 24 hours ago. The heroes, cosmics, and strange's group were the only ones relevant to the story. Why would they show anything else returning to normal.

If they showed the skrull homeworld turning back, you'd probably say "Earth, the heroes and the skrulls aren't the whole universe."

Even if they showed millions of worlds turning back to normal, you'd say "Well, millions of planets aren't universal."

Originally posted by King Kandy
Your SS and Thanos scans are wrong. They don't showm him shackiling them at all. Or bubbling surfur. I think you used the wrong scans.

His frist Shuma battle was just him killing the enfeebled old man who was bonding Shuma to this dimension.

The infinite being was smacking him around in those scans.

Dormammu only lost because his own power was limiting itself.

Here's the bubbling of Surfer scan:
http://img158.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bubbleqt3.jpg

And what are you talking about with the infinite being? He stole the Infinite's power.... aka a victory.

And he's beaten Dormammu other times as well.

Originally posted by thedude1948
Just as Universal as warping earth and making Magneto the ruler of it.


"Her ability to altar probability got Super charged"
http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/3817/wanda1km4.th.jpg


"She's starting to REMAKE Reality 616... again"
http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/4126/wanad2jy7.th.jpg


"You might not even exist anymore in whatever New Reality takes its place"
http://img326.imageshack.us/img326/5289/wanda3pi5.th.jpg


"Who knows how she'll change Everything this time"
http://img363.imageshack.us/img363/355/wanda4iu5.th.jpg


Whoops...

Originally posted by King Kandy
Just because that's what they show, doesn't mean that's all that happened. She said "let everything be as it was 24 hours ago."

And TA-DA, everythings like it was 24 hours ago. The heroes, cosmics, and strange's group were the only ones relevant to the story. Why would they show anything else returning to normal.

If they showed the skrull homeworld turning back, you'd probably say "Earth, the heroes and the skrulls aren't the whole universe."

Even if they showed millions of worlds turning back to normal, you'd say "Well, millions of planets aren't universal."

I CHALLENGE you to find an issue or scan where Thanos Altered MORE than ONE PLANET and Where Thanos did MORE than kill HALF the Population.

Then your logic will have meaning, until then your point is moot and null.



If you bring up Thanos wacking Eternity and taking his place, that will be inconsequential aswell, since Eternity RETURNED to his rightful place as the Universe IMMEDIATELY AFTER Thanos lost the IG.

Nebula NEVER confronted Eternity in any way.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Just because that's what they show, doesn't mean that's all that happened.

RE-READ Infinity Gauntlet and it's TIE-INS then come back.


Originally posted by King Kandy
She said "let everything be as it was 24 hours ago."

And TA-DA, everythings like it was 24 hours ago.


1. Nebula Resurrected Half the Population of the Universe and returned the Heroes back to Earth:

http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/8064/n1ce1.th.jpg


2. Nebula returns a SINGLE Frozen Planet to it's proper orbit:

http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/2605/n2xh6.th.jpg


And releasing the Cosmics EXCEPT for Eternity, because Eternity was already released, Eternity didn't even NOTICE NEBULA.

Originally posted by Mr Master
"Her ability to altar probability got Super charged"



"She's starting to REMAKE Reality 616... again"

"You might not even exist anymore in whatever New Reality takes its place"

"Who knows how she'll change Everything this time"

Whoops...

That is great, I agree with you Wanda did change Earth 616, but that is ALL she warped, she didn't warp the whole Universe....

http://img487.imageshack.us/img487/3315/616earth1ht5.th.jpg
It says 616 Earth not the whole universe....

Closeup
http://img487.imageshack.us/img487/6007/616earth2ue2.jpg



AGAIN, only 616 earth.
http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/3033/616earth3km4.th.jpg

And again.....
http://img382.imageshack.us/img382/5821/616earth4bz1.th.jpg



http://img382.imageshack.us/img382/33/616earth5wl2.th.jpg
"Wanda Maximoff used that mutant Hex power of hers to reshape their Whole World"
Beak was referring to 616 earth reality, not the Universe. Its okay I thought it was the whole 616 Universe too, until I read the issue more closely.

Originally posted by Mr Master
I CHALLENGE you to find an issue or scan where Thanos Altered MORE than ONE PLANET and Where Thanos did MORE than kill HALF the Population.

Then your logic will have meaning, until then your point is moot and null.



If you bring up Thanos wacking Eternity and taking his place, that will be inconsequential aswell, since Eternity RETURNED to his rightful place as the Universe IMMEDIATELY AFTER Thanos lost the IG.

Nebula NEVER confronted Eternity in any way.
Thano's battle with the abstracts altered the entire universe. He blew up all the planets the two celestials threw at him. I call that more then one planet.

And killing half the universes population is a universal feat in itself.

Originally posted by thedude1948
Beak was referring to 616 earth reality, not the Universe. Its okay I thought it was the whole 616 Universe too, until I read the issue more closely.

You brought in a bunch of meaningless scans.


They were concerned with Earth 616 because that's Beak's joint, but Wanda still Warped the 616 REALITY.



They are referring to Earth 616 when searching for his Planet, but when the WARP STARTS:

"She's starting to REMAKE REALITY 616... again"
http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/4126/wanad2jy7.th.jpg


Explain WHY he called it the the 616 REALITY, instead of the 616 Earth as he did before?


On top of that Wanda ENHANCED Genis-Vell's Powers to BEYOND Insane Genis-Vell Levels.

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/3940/w26su2.th.jpg

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/1056/w27ui9.th.jpg

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/4992/w28ry5.th.jpg



Genis begins Blinking The Universe IN and OUT of existence

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/9793/w30cw9.th.jpg

"For one second, EVERYTHING Collapsed, and Expanded, like an Accordian"
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/2769/w31cd3.th.jpg


"Private Vell has become a Spacial Conduit"
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/3838/w32br6.th.jpg
"We must find him soon, OR...


"OR this entire Universe might Disappear in the Blink of an Eye"
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/2193/w33vb3.th.jpg



Don't tell me, that's Genis BLINKING a Planet In and OUT of existence. LOL...


Don't worry, now you know.

When did this Genis thing happen?

Originally posted by Mr Master

They are referring to Earth 616 when searching for his Planet, but when the WARP STARTS:

"She's starting to REMAKE REALITY 616... again"
http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/4126/wanad2jy7.th.jpg


Explain WHY he called it the the 616 REALITY, instead of the 616 Earth as he did before?
Because 2 panels above that they said Wanda warped earth.
http://img382.imageshack.us/img382/33/616earth5wl2.th.jpg

"Wanda Maximoff used that mutant Hex power of hers to reshape their Whole World". It was called 616 reality because the writers already said 616 earth about 5000 times in the three HOM Exiles issues, and probably thinks the readers have an idea that 616 reality is referring to 616 earth, because they never mentioned the Universe once.

Originally posted by Mr Master
On top of that Wanda ENHANCED Genis-Vell's Powers to BEYOND Insane Genis-Vell Levels.
LOL, Wanda didnt enhance Genis, Baron Zemo did when he resurrected Genis with Matter from the big bang.
http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/4020/geniszemozf2.th.jpg

Originally posted by King Kandy
Thano's battle with the abstracts altered the entire universe.

Exaggeration.

The only Universal warp involved versus the Abstracts was when he took Eternity's place as the Universe.

And like I told you before, Eternity returned to his place as soon as Thanos lost the IG.


Originally posted by King Kandy
He blew up all the planets the two celestials threw at him. I call that more then one planet.

True.

I counted 14 Planets, that number means nothing though, cause if you read the scan

http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/7408/czg4.th.jpg

"In this GALAXY SPANNING Contest"


So much for the "entire Universe"

There's roughly 100 BILLION Galaxies in the 10% of the Universe we can see.


Originally posted by King Kandy
And killing half the universes population is a universal feat in itself.

Your kidding right?

Originally posted by Mr Master
Your kidding right?
Why? It effected the entire universe.

Originally posted by thedude1948
"Wanda Maximoff used that mutant Hex power of hers to reshape their Whole World". It was called 616 reality because the writers already said 616 earth about 5000 times in the three HOM Exiles issues, and probably thinks the readers have an idea that 616 reality is referring to 616 earth, because they never mentioned the Universe once.

Nice try, but no.

Reality stands for UNIVERSE in Marvel, you should know this.

They mentioned 616 Earth up until Wanda WARPED the 616 UNIVERSE (or 616 REALITY)


Originally posted by thedude1948
LOL, Wanda didnt enhance Genis, Baron Zemo did when he resurrected Genis with Matter from the big bang.

Again, nice try, but no.

Show me Genis BLINKING the UNIVERSE IN and OUT of existence, ever before or after HOM, not some bozo making claims.


Don't play yourself with Insane Genis's Universal destruction, he DID NOT do that there, he destroyed the Universe and then helped Entropy re-create it.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Why? It effected the entire universe.

No,

it affected Half the Population of the Universe.

Had he rearranged Half the Stars, or Galaxies or even Planets of the Universe, you would have something, but Individuals?

Come on.

And NONE of them were Cosmics either or anyone else of importance.

Dr Strange 10/10

Originally posted by Benny G
Dr Strange 10/10

hysterical2

Originally posted by Mr Master
hysterical2

It might sound stupid but if Strange got galactus in the eyes with on of his spells galactus would go out like a light

Originally posted by Mr Master
No,

it affected Half the Population of the Universe.

Had he rearranged Half the Stars, or Galaxies or even Planets of the Universe, you would have something, but Individuals?

Come on.

And NONE of them were Cosmics either or anyone else of importance.

Originally posted by Benny G


Why's that funny?

Originally posted by Mr Master
Don't play yourself with Insane Genis's Universal destruction, he DID NOT do that there, he destroyed the Universe and then helped Entropy re-create it.
That's what YOU claimed, in the old hierarchy thread.

Originally posted by batdude123
Why's that funny?

Cause he's a noob.

And they find serious things funny like a 14 year old girl seeing a Penis for the first time.

Originally posted by batdude123
Why's that funny?

Cuz it's stupid

Originally posted by King Kandy
That's what YOU claimed, in the old hierarchy thread.

What did I claim?

Originally posted by Mr Master
What did I claim?
That Genis re-created the universe in the Entropy arc.

Originally posted by Benny G
Cuz it's stupid

Dude, there's a 12 and under section I think if you click the Forum Jump option.

This is for serious debaters over here, not children that post this kind of gibberish:


Originally posted by Benny G
It might sound stupid but if Strange got galactus in the eyes with on of his spells galactus would go out like a light

Originally posted by Mr Master
Nice try, but no.

Reality stands for UNIVERSE in Marvel, you should know this.

They mentioned 616 Earth up until the Wanda WARPED the 616 UNIVERSE (or 616 REALITY)
616 earth is part of reality, Wanda ONLY warped 616 earth, so she did warp reality. Even though she only changed a small part of it she still warped reality. When we refer to reality warpers do we consider them all Universe warpers? no, some can warp reality on a planetary scale, or on a universal scale same thing here.

Originally posted by King Kandy
That Genis re-created the universe in the Entropy arc.

Originally posted by Mr Master
continues...


9. Insane Genis-Vell (Destroyed the 616 Universe and helped Remake it)

Go check it out for yourself, so you won't think I edited it.

"and HELPED Remake it"

Just like I claimed now.


We should always be sure of what we post KK.

Why would that assure me? You can edit your own posts just as easy as you can edit a quote.

Originally posted by thedude1948
616 earth is part of reality, Wanda ONLY warped 616 earth, so she did warp reality. Even though she only changed a small part of it she still warped reality. When we refer to reality warpers do we consider them all Universe warpers? no, some can warp reality on a planetary scale, or on a universal scale same thing here.

If it was a Planet Scale Warp,

then it would read,

"She's starting to REMAKE EARTH 616... again"


INSTEAD it reads,


"She's starting to REMAKE Reality 616... again"
http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/4126/wanad2jy7.th.jpg



Do I really have to post a bunch of scans where A REALITY in Marvel is a Universe.


When it's otherwise it's mentioned, if it's not mentioned and all we are given is REALITY, then it's referring to a UNIVERSE.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Why would that assure me? You can edit your own posts just as easy as you can edit a quote.

You can't edit a post after 15 minutes duke.

That's been there for some time now.

Originally posted by Mr Master

Again, nice try, but no.

Show me Genis BLINKING the UNIVERSE IN and OUT of existence, ever before or after HOM, not some bozo making claims.

What he was doing was creating spatial holes into different realities, Wanda had no part in this (show me 1 scan that even hints at Wanda having anything to do with Genis's power.)

Here is him doing this after HOM. Genis can exist in the past present and Future, and can open holes into any of them.
http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/671/genis2qr8.th.jpg

Each aperture is from a different time and space.
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/1392/genis3fc6.th.jpg

Another explanation of what happened. "Doors to different Spacial or temporal realities."
http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/9321/genis4tq1.th.jpg

And he does this with the Photonic energy he got from Zemo (not Wanda).
http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/7701/genis5tq4.th.jpg

Eventually Genis will destroy the universe because of his Photonic Energy (not because of Wanda.)
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/5849/genis6vj8.th.jpg
http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/4529/genis7qn8.th.jpg

Originally posted by Mr Master
9. Insane Genis-Vell (Re-wrote the 616 Universe)


You did edit the quote. on the page itself, this is what it says. If your going to edit the quote and pretend you didn't, you should edit the original source. But "Rewrote isn't very conclusive one way or another. however, the next quote shows your true thoughts on the subject.

Originally posted by Mr Master Genis-Vell Destroyed the Universe at the behest of Entropy and Epiphany
And
Entropy needed Genis-Vell's help to recreate Eternity.

That's what you said. Finito.

Originally posted by thedude1948
What he was doing was creating spatial holes into different realities, Wanda had no part in this

Your still throwing up scans in vain.

Show me Genis BLINKING the UNIVERSE IN and OUT of Existence


I don't care about Spatial this and that.


Originally posted by thedude1948
(show me 1 scan that even hints at Wanda having anything to do with Genis's power.)



Genis begins Blinking The Universe IN and OUT of existence

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/9793/w30cw9.th.jpg


"For one second, EVERYTHING Collapsed, and Expanded, like an Accordian"
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/2769/w31cd3.th.jpg


"OR this entire Universe might Disappear in the Blink of an Eye"
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/2193/w33vb3.th.jpg


So post away, until you present something equal to or greater than his HOM performance due to Wanda, we'll be going in circles.


The HINT is, he's NEVER done that before or since.


Wanda made Xavier and Strange more powerful just by them arriving at Genosha (where Wanda lived)

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/2752/w21gb8.th.jpg

Originally posted by Mr Master
If it was a Planet Scale Warp,

then it would read,

"She's starting to REMAKE EARTH 616... again"


INSTEAD it reads,


"She's starting to REMAKE Reality 616... again"


Thats nice, so you are going to just ignore the countless times they mention Wanda only warping 616 Earth, and because they leave out earth in 1 panel (and even on the SAME PAGE THEY CLAIM SHE ONLY WARPED EARTH) that means she warped the universe?....

Originally posted by Mr Master
Do I really have to post a bunch of scans where A REALITY in Marvel is a Universe. There really is no need because reality is a relative term that can relate to any number of confined areas (comic-wise).

Originally posted by Mr Master
When it's otherwise it's mentioned, if it's not mentioned and all we are given is REALITY, then it's referring to a UNIVERSE. reality does not equal the universe, are you telling me everyone who is classified as a reality warper can warp the whole Universe?.....

Originally posted by Mr Master
Wanda made Xavier and Strange more powerful just by them arriving at Genosha (where Wanda lived)

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/2752/w21gb8.th.jpg

Xavier was only talking about himself, it doesn't mention anywhere that Strange was getting more powerful from Wanda....

Also I still don't see how Wanda had anything to do with what Genis did...

Originally posted by King Kandy
You did edit the quote. on the page itself, this is what it says. If your going to edit the quote and pretend you didn't, you should edit the original source. But "Rewrote isn't very conclusive one way or another. however, the next quote shows your true thoughts on the subject.


That's what you said. Finito.

Did I sting you by any chance, your reaching more than a fanboy to make me look bad, while sinking like a desperate child.

What is different about the two?

In both claims I said He HELPED Entropy.

First one:
Originally posted by Mr Master
continues...


9. Insane Genis-Vell (Destroyed the 616 Universe and helped Remake it)


Second one:
Originally posted by Mr Master
Genis-Vell Destroyed the Universe at the behest of Entropy and Epiphany
And
Entropy needed Genis-Vell's help to recreate Eternity.


Are you high right now?

Originally posted by Mr Master
Are you high right now?
As you quote yourself...

Originally posted by thedude1948
Thats nice, so you are going to just ignore the countless times they mention Wanda only warping 616 Earth, and because they leave out earth in 1 panel (and even on the SAME PAGE THEY CLAIM SHE ONLY WARPED EARTH) that means she warped the universe?....

The 1 and ONLY Panel where the WARP was TAKING PLACE.



Originally posted by thedude1948
There really is no need because reality is a relative term that can relate to any number of confined areas (comic-wise).

I think not.

If it refers to a Global SCALE, then it will say it.

But if it refers to a UNIVERSE, it will say REALITY.



Originally posted by thedude1948
reality does not equal the universe, are you telling me everyone who is classified as a reality warper can warp the whole Universe?.....

Already told you so many times but your bordering intransigence cause you want your "discovery" to take hold.


Reality Warpers are defined by their scale of influence,

Global, Pocket Universe, Universal ect. ect.

Originally posted by thedude1948
Xavier was only talking about himself, it doesn't mention anywhere that Strange was getting more powerful from Wanda....

Cool, so it specifically focuses on Xavier's POWERS being INCREASED by Wanda.


Originally posted by thedude1948
Also I still don't see how Wanda had anything to do with what Genis did...



Of course you can't, your desperate to be right.


Xavier's powers are INCREASED On Panel it clearly clarifies that for us.

Genis mysteriously performs a feat during HOM that he has NEVER EVER before or since been able to do, yet, it had nothing to do with Wanda.





When Wanda was giving EVERYONE what they wanted, she even gave a bunch of nobodies Powers.


Wanda gave every being on Earth the ability to make their Wishes become Reality.

Xavier's

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/2737/w3dq4.th.jpg

Xavier thinks he's Dreaming at first

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/7985/w4wg7.th.jpg

Here Gaby tells him she's existing in another Reality simultaneously, because of Wanda

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/8683/w5au3.th.jpg


Spiderman's

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/8833/w18zy4.th.jpg


All the Xmen's really, but I'm not going to bother posting them all, you get the point.

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/3315/wanda19kr3.th.jpg


And on and on and on.

Originally posted by King Kandy
As you quote yourself...
Wait, never mind. You accidently quoted the wrong quote.

But, what about the second quote, where you straight out SAY that He destroyed a universe "At the behest" of the people you later say he "Helped"?

Originally posted by Mr Master
Already told you so many times but your bordering intransigence cause you want your "discovery" to take hold.
the irony.


Originally posted by Mr Master
Reality Warpers are defined by their scale of influence,

Global, Pocket Universe, Universal ect. ect.

You are right and Wanda was defined as having a Planetary level of influence.

Originally posted by thedude1948
You are right and Wanda was defined as having a Planetary level of influence.


"She's starting to REMAKE Reality 616... again"
http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/4126/wanad2jy7.th.jpg


Genis begins Blinking The Universe IN and OUT of existence due to Wanda's INCREASE of his power.

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/9793/w30cw9.th.jpg


"For one second, EVERYTHING Collapsed, and Expanded, like an Accordian"
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/2769/w31cd3.th.jpg

Heck, she had other cats wiping out the Universe, yet you find it so hard to believe she did it herself.

Her Chaos Wave DEVASTATED UNIVERSES all ALONG the Sidereal String.

"Your Dimension is a Cancer, bringing DEVASTATION to BRANES (Universes) ALL ALONG the SIDEREAL STRING"
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/305/b6mj8.th.jpg
"Sparing Yours condemns the REST"



Wanda even CREATED her own Plot device so she can stop herself in the end.

Wanda Created Layla Miller (the HOM PLOT DEVICE)

http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/1018/lbs8.th.jpg

This isn't the original Layla Miller, it' a creation of Wanda's


The Original Layla is a psychic, Wanda's Layla is operating with a whole New Power (AGAIN due to Wanda)

http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/7631/w1dd1.th.jpg
"Your Psychic Powers, are psychic but Not psychic, Not like anything I've ever seen"


"Girly WHAT are you?"....."She AIN'T Human"

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/8707/l8nv8.th.jpg
"I never felt anything like that"....."None of us have"

why is this thread still open

Mr. Master, just leave it alone, some people never understand.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Your right,

I just noticed.
Yeah, Mister "Genis destroyed the universe because Entropy told him to."

Originally posted by King Kandy
You trying to be "The New Ext@nt" There?

No he's actually quite right,

just by your last few posts directed at me, one would have to cry out laughing.


Making accusations then realizing your typing when you should be READING, and carfeully at that.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Yeah, Mister "Genis destroyed the universe because Entropy told him to."

firefirefireph

Originally posted by Mr Master
No he's actually quite right,

just by your last few posts directed at me, one would have to cry out laughing.


Making accusations then realizing your typing when you should be READING, and carfeully at that.
You think Ext@nt was wrong?

Originally posted by King Kandy
You trying to be "The New Ext@nt" There? 1) don't compare me to him

2)

Originally posted by batdude123
Strange vs. Satannish and Mephisto:

http://img433.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vssatameph10px.jpg
http://img441.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vssatameph23dj.jpg
http://img441.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vssatameph30ia.jpg

He wins... sorta.

yep, SORT OF . . . but he was pretty much insignificant beside them, power wise, and he even needed a "push" to figure how to beat them. they were once "one being". can we say plot-induced victory . . .?

don't get me wrong, i like strange a lot, and he IS powerful as hell, but that doesn't mean his powers aren't blown out of proportion on the forum a lot of times . . .



you know that's not the REAL ss . . . right . . . (ERSATZ power cosmic. can't recall the arc, but i'm 99% sure that's a fake ss . . .)



knocking them back a step and on their butts is . . . one-shotting? i luv ya bats, but you're not doing lots for the doc's rep at the moment . . . nor did he "shackle" them. they VOLUNTARILY allowed strange to send them to a mental plane to battle out their differences . . .

don't feel like going through all the rest of the scans. just wanted to make a tiny little point . . .



that's the rpoblem with respect threads -- NO CONTEXT.

Originally posted by King Kandy
your comment was exactly like his. that doesn't mean you should compare him to me.....

Lay off the Ganja while debating.

the hell happened to this thread . . .?

Originally posted by Mr Master
Lay off the Ganja while debating.
Okay. Now, why not rebute the hipocrasy that I showed you engaging in?

Originally posted by King Kandy
Your right. He'd do what you did, but then mutter about "Phoenix fanboys". All the difference in the world. stop bieng such a doosh, dude.....just because that guy hit a nerve with you and i happened to say something ONCE that he said, doesn't mean you should compare him to me....

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Look, Strange with all his vaunted prep and gods and such only managed to survive an encounter with Death, and negate the effects of the IG. He wasn't overpowering anyone.

There's also the instance him knocking out Big G over Manhattan (not actually fully beating him, and obvious PIS...but Galactus wasn't even fighting back at the time), but again, we're talking about a cosmic force that's on the level of abstracts and infinite beings.

Galactus every time. The Strange hype machine has to come to a stop somewhere.
Galactus was fighting back. Fighting back hard, actually. He wasn't able to break Strange's shields and that's why Strange k.o'd him with a single blast.

Now, with a day of prep, Strange can summon Agg' to stalemate Galactus as he's done before as well as the other two Vishanti who are actually more powerful than Agg.

Strange is their golden boy and they WOULD do it if they thought he would die in the process.

Also, Eternity basically lives in Strange's amulet, it's a doorway into his dimension, he could get help from him as well as he's done in the past.

I don't think Strange by himself would beat Galactus, but with prep, he wouldn't be by himself.

Originally posted by Mr Master
"Universal"?

He couldn't even last for TWO panels against the Power Gem ALONE and he had PREP and ALL of his TALISMANS TOGETHER as ONE, what are you talking about.





Oh my, now I see where you went wrong wrong.

Your picking scans from that warped respect thread.

"TOAA"?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Wait a minute, still LOL!




What a load of fallacious scans.

That's from Rom #41,

LT NEVER attacked Strange as the person who posted that nonsense implies, he only battled the In-Betweener and LOST!




The link doesn't work, but I'm sure it's more exaggeration from the respect thread.

Just like Strange "stalemating the IG"

Or "Strange fighting LT"

Or "Strange seeing TOAA"

Which is the funniest of all of those fantasies.
This coming from the man who thought Wanda controlled Strange's power. lol

Strange is multi-versal. His power comes from the multiverse.
And in that Comic, Strange and the letters page said he was in fact God. TOAA. Has it bee retconned? I don't know, but when that comic was out, Genesis was god.

Originally posted by batdude123
Galactus fight:

http://img340.imageshack.us/my.php?image=galacko5uf.jpg

Post the next 2 pages that followed.