Click HERE to see this thread with all of the graphics, features, and links.

Who win's this?

Dark Phoenix

please read this:http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=425758&perpage=20&highlight=&pagenumber=1

Galactus......

Originally posted by thedude1948
Galactus......

I thought Phoenix beat Galactus? Maybe I'm mistaken.

Originally posted by Howard_Jones
I thought Phoenix beat Galactus? Maybe I'm mistaken.

She beat a hungry Galactus.

Phoenix, and here's why. Her power is unlimited. Galactus wasn't the only survivor of the last universe. He survived because of the phoenix.

Wolverine

It was Rachel that defeated Galactus, and she is not even the most powerful incarnation of the Phoenix.

Originally posted by What If...
It was Rachel that defeated Galactus, and she is not even the most powerful incarnation of the Phoenix.

I am.

lol. Ok, can you beat the beyonder?

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Phoenix, and here's why. Her power is unlimited. Galactus wasn't the only survivor of the last universe. He survived because of the phoenix.

Phoenix had nothing to do with Galactus surviving.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Phoenix, and here's why. Her power is unlimited. Galactus wasn't the only survivor of the last universe. He survived because of the phoenix.

That's never been proven.

Anywhere.

It's says in Marvel bios that Phoenix saved previous Universe and enable Eternity to go on, it says Phoenix Force literally saved Galan (so due to that, Galactus lives and it is what it is because of Phoenix Force).
But on panel, it hasn't been proven, but I don't why would they lie (but then again, it also has never been proven anything about Full powered Galactus).
Anyway, Dark Phoenix takes this, she would tear Galactus apart.
Galactus was scared of Dark Phoenix.

ummmmmm Dark phoenix for the win?:P

Originally posted by PRAYERRUN
ummmmmm Dark phoenix for the win?:P
Nope
Galactus ftw if fp

Originally posted by thedude1948
Phoenix had nothing to do with Galactus surviving.

Prove me that. I can't prove it also, but also you can't.
But in Marvel, at least it says, Galactus survived because of Phoenix Force.

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Nope
Galactus ftw if fp

Who is that FP Galactus? What has he done? On panel Galactus lost to Phoenix Force.
Galactus cannot win this.
There is no FP Galactus, never been, never will be.

Originally posted by Mr Master
This is Galactus's origin... This has never been ret-conned On Panel

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/5297/glive9uq.th.jpg

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/9779/glive15zv.th.jpg

http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/4595/glive24gt.th.jpg

http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/497/glive32cx.th.jpg

http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/203/glive43ba.th.jpg

http://img334.imageshack.us/img334/2025/glive50fp.th.jpg

http://img334.imageshack.us/img334/5825/glives64ga.th.jpg

http://img334.imageshack.us/img334/4945/glive75fi.th.jpg

http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/4936/glive80yb.th.jpg

Originally posted by Xplosive
It's says in Marvel bios that Phoenix saved previous Universe and enable Eternity to go on, it says Phoenix Force literally saved Galan (so due to that, Galactus lives and it is what it is because of Phoenix Force).
But on panel, it hasn't been proven, but I don't why would they lie (but then again, it also has never been proven anything about Full powered Galactus).
Anyway, Dark Phoenix takes this, she would tear Galactus apart.
Galactus was scared of Dark Phoenix.

Yeah, I've never bought that bullcrap. It was basically an X-Men writer trying to increase the threat level of a X character. It was kinda low. You shouldn't retcon something for no damn reason, and especially not to increase comic sales.

Originally posted by Howard_Jones
Yeah, I've never bought that bullcrap. It was basically an X-Men writer trying to increase the threat level of a X character.

I don't think it was that, since Phoenix was already at the beggining so powerful. It just is what it is. Pheonix was already at the beggining powerful and held in higher rank than Galactus (according to Watcher).

Yeah, but the whole "more powerful than any cosmic entity" was still crap.

Originally posted by Xplosive
Prove me that. I can't prove it also, but also you can't.
Flying Spaghetti Monster?...

Originally posted by Xplosive
But in Marvel, at least it says, Galactus survived because of Phoenix Force.

Andy Schmidt Marvel Editor has said Phoenix has nothing to do with Galactus's origin. Also if we are going by Handbooks Galactus and Silver Surfer beat the crap out of the Phoenix.

Handbook Stats
Galactus:
http://img132.imageshack.us/my.php?image=galactushn2.jpg
Silver Surfer:
http://img132.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ssba7.jpg
http://img132.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ss2sp4.jpg
Phoenix:
http://img86.imageshack.us/my.php?image=phoenixhj5.jpg

Originally posted by thedude1948
Flying Spaghetti Monster?...



Andy Schmidt Marvel Editor has said Phoenix has nothing to do with Galactus's origin. Also if we are going by Handbooks Galactus and Silver Surfer beat the crap out of the Phoenix.

Ok, you got me (although I haven't believed now for sometime what it says in Marvel bios and such...)

Still, when Galactus and Pheonix fought (even Rachel), Rachel won pretty much with ease, so it is easy to say Phoenix would own Galactus.
Galactus hasn't done anything, he lost to Phoenix.

Phoenix after all she is above the Living Tribunal am I right Xplosive?

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Phoenix after all she is above the Living Tribunal am I right Xplosive?

I am certain she is above Galactus.
I am undecided about LT and PF.

i think at the end of annihilation we will get a good idea of what galactus can do when suitably motivated.

Can anyone tell me what is Galactus greatest feat?
I have been thinking about it now, but didn't come to any really his great feat, soemthing significant or important to stay in mind.
Only his feat to stay in mind are one when he gets beaten by much weaker opponents and when he beaten powerful Tyrant. Those are which I can remember immediately.
Now, can anyone tell me his really great feat?

Originally posted by Xplosive
Can anyone tell me what is Galactus greatest feat?
I have been thinking about it now, but didn't come to any really his great feat, soemthing significant or important to stay in mind.
Only his feat to stay in mind are one when he gets beaten by much weaker opponents and when he beaten powerful Tyrant. Those are which I can remember immediately.
Now, can anyone tell me his really great feat?
He destroy the Universe .
Phoenix hasn't done anything like that

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
He destroy the Universe .
Phoenix hasn't done anything like that

I knew you were going to say that.
Now, what is greater, destroying an Universe or holding it like Phoenix did (or did you forget about it), who could at will just sqeeze it.
Destroying something is by far easiest thing to do. I can destroy my monitor like nothing, but I won't be able to construct just like that, right.
What Phoenix did is far above anything Galactus has done.

well, i think its been retconned to hell and back already, but in the last galactus story galactus was supposed to split his armor open and release the next big bang to create the new universe, in which nova his herald would be the new galactus. thats pretty impressive if you want to talk about creating things. though destructive feats would probably be more useful here, its not a "who can built the sturdiest moniter" contest. its how much damage they can cause eachother. no feat doesnt mean no ability either.

ive always liked galactus, and in his original role he was the most powerful thing there is, no phoenix force or anything like that. writers just need to keep going bigger and better to have an impact. pity, galactus used to be so badass.

A fed Galactus takes down everyone else together.

And what's Apocalypse doing here?

Dp for the win. but "full power galactus" would take her.

i think the whole phoenix saving galactus fits together quite nicely actualy. in the depictions of galactus's origin the setience that saves him is a formless mass of energy. just like the phoenix befor it took the bird form.
the spirit talks of taking the all the matter of the univers in to its "bosom"
a feminine reference.
then it says we will die "surender your self to my fiery embrase"
sounds kind of phoenix like.
then it says "let our death throws serve as birth pangs"
sounds like the rebirth cycle to me.
which the phoenix is the spirit of.
now we know at the time thay did not have phoenix in mind but the retcon does fit.

the cosmic egg fits in to it as well! who els but the phoenix could hatch it?

galactus ftw

galactus for the win

i agree with the bios also,but still use on panel sources for feats and such i have no problem with fitting phoenix into the origin of galactus and yes it does fit nicely,its only the phoenix haters who will deny that
think about it, the marvel reps who are responsible for the bios and such have to depend on them for new and old readers to reference and for them to rely on,i know nobody is perfect but lets let marvel determine that, let the posters scan galactus's origin all they like,they will quote a bio when it helps them but not if it makes their favorite look like they have been demoted or somthing

Originally posted by Booyah
Who win's this?

Phoenix Force