Cyborg Superman vs. Runner

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Madvillain
Cyborg Superman

vs.

the Runner


fight takes place in space.

Galan777
Runner ftw

tkitna
Runner wins 100/100 whether its the cyborg or the real thing.

Faceman
wow, everyones getting smarter around here...

Madvillain
die slow.

Avalonofthewind
Borg if he doesn't battle like an idiot.

Howard_Jones
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Borg if he doesn't battle like an idiot.

http://www.eyrie.org/lnh/gallery/fanboy.jpg

Avalonofthewind
Originally posted by Howard_Jones
http://www.eyrie.org/lnh/gallery/fanboy.jpg

http://www.mousemultimedia.com/ricardo/absolut/idiot.jpg

Howard_Jones
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
http://www.mousemultimedia.com/ricardo/absolut/idiot.jpg

I would love to hear any proof that Henshaw could take the Runner.

Oh, wait, he can't.

Don't bother answering.

Avalonofthewind
Originally posted by Howard_Jones
I would love to hear any proof that Henshaw could take the Runner.

Oh, wait, he can't.

Don't bother answering.

Keep your bitchy attitude to yourself, the last I remember this was a forum for debate.

I don't see any compelling evidence on your behalf.

Howard_Jones
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Keep your bitchy attitude to yourself, the last I remember this was a forum for debate.

I don't see any compelling evidence on your behalf.

Elder of the Universe.

Outran the Silver Surfer.

Hank Henshaw has done nothing to put him at his level.

juggernaut66666
Originally posted by Howard_Jones
Elder of the Universe.

Outran the Silver Surfer.

Hank Henshaw has done nothing to put him at his level.
Outran Surfer???
He b!tched Surfer like a kid.

DarkCrawler
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Borg if he doesn't battle like an idiot.

...guess you don't know who the Runner is?

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b240/VoltronForce/runnersurfer1.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b240/VoltronForce/runnersurfer2.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b240/VoltronForce/runnersurfer3.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b240/VoltronForce/runnersurfer4.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b240/VoltronForce/runnersurfer5.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b240/VoltronForce/runnerthanos1.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b240/VoltronForce/runnerthanos2.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b240/VoltronForce/runnerthanos3.jpg
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Avalonofthewind
Originally posted by Howard_Jones
Elder of the Universe.

Outran the Silver Surfer.

Hank Henshaw has done nothing to put him at his level.

True Immortal.

Fared well against Parallax and Superman Blue.

Beat the Eradicator, Superboy, Supergirl, and Steel effortlessly at the same time.

Can configure his body to any weapon or device specifically to his enemies weakness.

Can be in multiple bodies at once.

Dangerous enough for an actual Guardian to go after him.

So tell me..what is Runner going to do if Henshaw is fighting smart? Blast him? laughing

Avalonofthewind
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
...guess you don't know who the Runner is?

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b240/VoltronForce/runnersurfer1.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b240/VoltronForce/runnersurfer2.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b240/VoltronForce/runnersurfer3.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b240/VoltronForce/runnersurfer4.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b240/VoltronForce/runnersurfer5.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b240/VoltronForce/runnerthanos1.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b240/VoltronForce/runnerthanos2.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b240/VoltronForce/runnerthanos3.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b240/VoltronForce/runnerthanos4.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b240/VoltronForce/runnerthanos5.jpg

Beating SS physically is hardly a feat. If I remember correctly..SS beat him as well.

Surfer has actually TRIPPED Runner in mid run.

Against Thanos he had the Space gem.

Howard_Jones
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Beating SS physically is hardly a feat. If I remember correctly..SS beat him as well.

Surfer has actually TRIPPED Runner in mid run.

Against Thanos he had the Space gem.

and he was getting stomped until he decided to use it.

Also, Silver Surfer >>>>>>>> Hank Henshaw.

Howard_Jones
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
True Immortal.

Fared well against Parallax and Superman Blue.

Beat the Eradicator, Superboy, Supergirl, and Steel effortlessly at the same time.

Can configure his body to any weapon or device specifically to his enemies weakness.

Can be in multiple bodies at once.

Dangerous enough for an actual Guardian to go after him.

So tell me..what is Runner going to do if Henshaw is fighting smart? Blast him? laughing

No one in that list is near the level of the Silver Surfer.

You're a Superman fanboy, aren't you?

Devil Lance
Originally posted by Howard_Jones
No one in that list is near the level of the Silver Surfer.

You're a Superman fanboy, aren't you?

laughing

Parralax < Than Surfer
laughing lol



no roll eyes (sarcastic)

kgkg
Originally posted by Howard_Jones
No one in that list is near the level of the Silver Surfer.

You're a Superman fanboy, aren't you? you noticed?
eek!

Howard_Jones
Originally posted by Devil Lance
laughing

Parralax < Than Surfer
laughing lol



no roll eyes (sarcastic)

He never "did well" against Parallax. That's what we call a twisted interpretation.

Soleran
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Keep your bitchy attitude to yourself, the last I remember this was a forum for debate.

I don't see any compelling evidence on your behalf.

Dude I don't agree with you alot of the time but you are awesome.

Runner, wins.


Happy Thanksgiving.

Avalonofthewind
Originally posted by Howard_Jones
No one in that list is near the level of the Silver Surfer.

You're a Superman fanboy, aren't you?

Wow... you are an idiot...SS is more powerful than Parallax? Eradicator alone can stalemate SS.

Henshaw didn't do well against Parallax..the same guy who ko'd Superman with one effortless punch?

And Borg (in the only available example) laughed off SS blasts.

Avalonofthewind
Originally posted by Soleran
Dude I don't agree with you alot of the time but you are awesome.

Runner, wins.


Happy Thanksgiving.

If we all agreed it would be boring.

Enjoy the mountains of delicious home catered goodness. eek!

DarkCrawler
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Beating SS physically is hardly a feat. If I remember correctly..SS beat him as well.

Surfer has actually TRIPPED Runner in mid run.

Against Thanos he had the Space gem.


Yeah, it is. Surfer can go physically with Hulk for a while.

And if you had actually read the pages you probably would have noticed that he knocked him out with a blast, not physically...

Not only he showed that he is stronger then Surfer, he is also way, way, faster, literally laughed at Surfer's blasts, and knocked Surfer himself out with one minimal blast.

Oh, and the Space Gem didn't make his moving speed faster, it only applied to teleportation...like Thanos himself states...
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b240/VoltronForce/runnerthanos8.jpg

Runner beats Cyborg with ease. His blasts are stronger, he is more durable, thousands of times faster, billions of times more experienced, and is at least on close in strength.

Howard_Jones
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Wow... you are an idiot...SS is more powerful than Parallax? Eradicator alone can stalemate SS.
Fanboy

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Henshaw didn't do well against Parallax..the same guy who ko'd Superman with one effortless punch?
Surfer>>>>>Superman
Fanboy.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
And Borg (in the only available example) laughed off SS blasts.

Bullshit. If Henshaw were really that powerful then Hal Jordan wouldn't have knocked his jaw off recently.
Fanboy

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Yeah, it is. Surfer can go physically with Hulk for a while.

And if you had actually read the pages you probably would have noticed that he knocked him out with a blast, not physically...

Not only he showed that he is stronger then Surfer, he is also way, way, faster, literally laughed at Surfer's blasts, and knocked Surfer himself out with one minimal blast.

Oh, and the Space Gem didn't make his moving speed faster, it only applied to teleportation...like Thanos himself states...
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b240/VoltronForce/runnerthanos8.jpg

Runner beats Cyborg with ease. His blasts are stronger, he is more durable, thousands of times faster, billions of times more experienced, and is at least on close in strength.

http://www.forumspile.com/Owned/Owned-Mickey-MickeyKid.jpg

Thanks for the backup, Darkcrawler.

Galan007
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Borg if he doesn't battle like an idiot. Didn't he loose to a few GL's?
Originally posted by Howard_Jones
No one in that list is near the level of the Silver Surfer.What the f**k?

Parallax is so much more powerful then Surfer that its rediculous.

Howard_Jones
Originally posted by Galan007
Didn't he loose to a few GL's?
What the f**k?

Parallax is so much more powerful then Surfer that its rediculous.

I corrected myself.

And you're correct, a few GL's put him down. One punch from Hal Jordan knocked his jaw off.

Galan007
Originally posted by Howard_Jones
I corrected myself. Whoops, my bad embarrasment

Originally posted by Howard_Jones
And you're correct, a few GL's put him down. One punch from Hal Jordan knocked his jaw off. Thats what I thought.

juggernaut66666
Originally posted by Howard_Jones
I corrected myself.

And you're correct, a few GL's put him down. One punch from Hal Jordan knocked his jaw off.
While he had 4 GL rings.

DarkCrawler
Still, all points aside, Thanos was clearly helpless (looked a bit scared on the fifth page also) against Runner. And Surfer got pwnd worse then ever.

Cyborg is going downnn.

Avalonofthewind
Originally posted by Howard_Jones
Fanboy

Moron. Parallax>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.Surfer.
Eradicator= Surfer

Originally posted by Howard_Jones
Surfer>>>>>Superman
Fanboy.

One of us has been banned many times due to sheer stupidity. It wasn't me.

Dumbass.

Originally posted by Howard_Jones
Bullshit. If Henshaw were really that powerful then Hal Jordan wouldn't have knocked his jaw off recently.
Fanboy

And Runner has been tripped. Since when does 1 low feat = discounting everything else?

Moronic.

Originally posted by Howard_Jones
http://www.forumspile.com/Owned/Owned-Mickey-MickeyKid.jpg

Thanks for the backup, Darkcrawler.

Now go take that attitude back to your mommy for some therapy.

http://steelturman.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/dumbass.JPG

Avalonofthewind
Originally posted by Galan007
Didn't he loose to a few GL's?
What the f**k?

Parallax is so much more powerful then Surfer that its rediculous.

2 Gl's in a machine to powered them up 50x. wink

They'd whoop Runner in such a contraption as well.

Notice I said "Borg would be fighting intelligently."

DarkCrawler
And tell me, excatly, how does he beat Runner?

You'll note in the both examples against Thanos and Surfer, Runner was just playing with them. I assume that he won't be doing that here, so Runner owns Cyborg.

Howard_Jones
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Moron. Parallax>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.Surfer.
Eradicator= Surfer


Nope. Not even close.

Once again, Fanboy.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
One of us has been banned many times due to sheer stupidity. It wasn't me.

Dumbass.



And Runner has been tripped. Since when does 1 low feat = discounting everything else?

Moronic.

I'm not The_Judge

Also, one high feat doesn't mean that he's above everyone else either. He's not as powerful as you're making him.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Now go take that attitude back to your mommy for some therapy.



Take what? A long laugh at the fact that you're basing your opinions on assumptions?

Nice one kiddo.

Also, Hal Jordan knocked his jaw off.

Clean Off.

As in Non-Parallax, Non-Spectre Hal.

Please read comics and come back later.

Badabing
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Moron. Parallax>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.Surfer.
Eradicator= Surfer



One of us has been banned many times due to sheer stupidity. It wasn't me.

Dumbass.



And Runner has been tripped. Since when does 1 low feat = discounting everything else?

Moronic.



Now go take that attitude back to your mommy for some therapy.

http://steelturman.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/dumbass.JPG
Damn dude, they're only comics. blink Relax, and just enjoy the forum. cool

Howard_Jones
Yeah, no kiddin. You made a fanboy comment. Just live with it, admit you're wrong, and move on.

kgkg
Originally posted by Badabing
Damn dude, they're only comics. blink Relax, and just enjoy the forum. cool laughing don't get avlon stared

Actually i don't see whats the point in trying to convince him.. hasn't worked in what a year.

He thinks superman is all power ( any version) it's his opinion it's cool.

But trying to put facts , and scans is not gonna help big grin

cheers mate

Howard_Jones
Originally posted by kgkg
laughing don't get avlon stared

Actually i don't see whats the point in trying to convince him.. hasn't worked in what a year.

He thinks superman is all power ( any version) it's his opinion it's cool.

But trying to put facts , and scans is not gonna help big grin

cheers mate

Guess the debate is over then.

Runner wins 10/10, except for in Avalons mind.

/thread

Soleran
I thought it was more a 9/10 thing for Runner!

Soljer
I actually appreciate Avalon. In such a marvel biased forum, it's good to have a voice screaming otherwise, even if I may disagree with it quite often.

The Surfer IS quite a bit more powerful than Superman. He IS more than capable of taking anyone that Avalon named (with the exception of Parallax, obviously, wink .)

The Runner is (was?) like Surfer +.

However, what many people are forgetting is, if I recall correctly, the Surfer fared pretty well against the Runner in the issue that followed DIRECTLY after the Surfer's embarassing defeat. The Runner isn't THAT much better than the Surfer, even if he is better at ALL anymore (with the Surfer's recent upgrade).

End result's the same, though, the Runner takes out Henshaw. At least for now, even though I suppose Henshaw's consciusness may very well be transported galaxies away. erm.

darthgoober
Originally posted by Soljer
I actually appreciate Avalon. In such a marvel biased forum, it's good to have a voice screaming otherwise, even if I may disagree with it quite often.

The Surfer IS quite a bit more powerful than Superman. He IS more than capable of taking anyone that Avalon named (with the exception of Parallax, obviously, wink .)

The Runner is (was?) like Surfer +.

However, what many people are forgetting is, if I recall correctly, the Surfer fared pretty well against the Runner in the issue that followed DIRECTLY after the Surfer's embarassing defeat. The Runner isn't THAT much better than the Surfer, even if he is better at ALL anymore (with the Surfer's recent upgrade).

End result's the same, though, the Runner takes out Henshaw. At least for now, even though I suppose Henshaw's consciusness may very well be transported galaxies away. erm.
Surfer never fought with the Runner in the next issue. Mantis tripped The Runner(which is as PIS as they come IMO), but Surfer never did anything to him. He fought The Champion(and I think I other elder) before Surfer and Mantis ran away, but the two of them never came to blows in that issue. I actually don't know if they've fought since that first battle at all.

(If I'm wrong and there HAS been another battle between the two and anyone out there knows what issue it's in, I'd appreciate the info)

bigbran
Originally posted by darthgoober
Surfer never fought with the Runner in the next issue. Mantis tripped The Runner(which is as PIS as they come IMO), but Surfer never did anything to him. He fought The Champion(and I think I other elder) before Surfer and Mantis ran away, but the two of them never came to blows in that issue. I actually don't know if they've fought since that first battle at all.

(If I'm wrong and there HAS been another battle between the two and anyone out there knows what issue it's in, I'd appreciate the info) No, your right. The next issue, Surfer and Mantis went after them (Elders), all that happened was that Runner got tripped, and then Surfer and Mantis flew away.

Also there is one bad feat. All of the Elders got swallowed by Galactus. We all know that would never happen to Superman... roll eyes (sarcastic)

darthgoober
Originally posted by bigbran
No, your right. The next issue, Surfer and Mantis went after them (Elders), all that happened was that Runner got tripped, and then Surfer and Mantis flew away.

Also there is one bad feat. All of the Elders got swallowed by Galactus. We all know that would never happen to Superman... roll eyes (sarcastic)
Of course not, Supes would use T-Vo on him.

Supreme being
Cyborg superman loses there's not a lot he can do to counter runners speed PIS excluded.

Howard_Jones
Originally posted by darthgoober
Of course not, Supes would use T-Vo on him.

Or use any other of his plot-device powers.

Supreme being
Originally posted by Howard_Jones
Or use any other of his plot-device powers.

confused It always amazes me how every battle involving a DC character leads to some superman bashing.

Howard_Jones
Originally posted by Supreme being
confused It always amazes me how every battle involving a DC character leads to some superman bashing.

Welcome to the world of Comic Book forums. Read a big DC event. It always comes back to Superman, unless it's Kingdom Come.

On comic forums, it's similar. DC discussion comes to Superman's bad moments in the history of the character.

Avalonofthewind
Originally posted by Howard_Jones
Yeah, no kiddin. I made a fanboy comment. I'll live with it, admit I'm wrong, and move on.

No problem. Stop being so foolish and maybe you can last another couple of months without being banned. wink

Originally posted by kgkg
laughing don't get avlon stared

Actually i don't see whats the point in trying to convince him.. hasn't worked in what a year.

He thinks superman is all power ( any version) it's his opinion it's cool.

But trying to put facts , and scans is not gonna help big grin

cheers mate

Another fool with a grudge from wayyy back.
Nice to see you back though "mate." wink

Avalonofthewind
Originally posted by Soljer
I actually appreciate Avalon. In such a marvel biased forum, it's good to have a voice screaming otherwise, even if I may disagree with it quite often.

The Surfer IS quite a bit more powerful than Superman. He IS more than capable of taking anyone that Avalon named (with the exception of Parallax, obviously, wink .)

The Runner is (was?) like Surfer +.

However, what many people are forgetting is, if I recall correctly, the Surfer fared pretty well against the Runner in the issue that followed DIRECTLY after the Surfer's embarassing defeat. The Runner isn't THAT much better than the Surfer, even if he is better at ALL anymore (with the Surfer's recent upgrade).

End result's the same, though, the Runner takes out Henshaw. At least for now, even though I suppose Henshaw's consciusness may very well be transported galaxies away. erm.

Actually..that's the more enjoyable part of forums. Not everyone agrees on everything. Group together a TON of Marvel fanboys and it still doesn't make them right.

Anyone from the Super-books is at an automatic disadvantage in these forums. Proof is in threads like Iron man vs Superman.

Realistically, there isn't much runner could do to actually take out Henshaw. Henshaw isn't going to have an easy time with Runner either.

Fanboys here are saying ridiculous crap like Runner 10/10.

Supreme being
Originally posted by Howard_Jones
Welcome to the world of Comic Book forums. Read a big DC event. It always comes back to Superman, unless it's Kingdom Come.

On comic forums, it's similar. DC discussion comes to Superman's bad moments in the history of the character.


confused confused confused uhhhhh okay

Psyquis52
Meh.

I'm a pretty big fan of Cyborg Superman and I'm also a fair sized fan of Avalon but...I can't agree with everything he says.

Runner wins but it's not a clean sweep in my opinion.

nvrbeenwthagirl
Can Cyborg Superman Be Hurt Physically? What is his the upper Limit of his strength and Durability? I remember that he was superior to Superman in Every way. with some other powers. Does anyone have a good bio? The runner doesn't have enough showings for me to make a good judgement and I'm not a big fan of The Borg. But it seems like a fairly even match.

bigbran
Wait, didn't Superman put his hand through him, and vibrate Borg into destruction?

darthgoober
With Runners speed, couldn't he just take out Cyborg like Supes did, by vibrating his arm through him, and shaking him to pieces? I'm not saying that it would be easy for him to get the opening, but I'm sure an opening would present itself during the fight.

nvrbeenwthagirl
Originally posted by darthgoober
With Runners speed, couldn't he just take out Cyborg like Supes did, by vibrating his arm through him, and shaking him to pieces? I'm not saying that it would be easy for him to get the opening, but I'm sure an opening would present itself during the fight.

After supes did that, did henshaw ever show being able to be beaten like that again? Villians tend to get smarter and more powerful. especially smart ones like that.

Roldz
Yet he nearly got split in half by Hals attack... Villains never learns, thats why they're always villains.. cept Jugg.. his cool...

darthgoober
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
After supes did that, did henshaw ever show being able to be beaten like that again? Villians tend to get smarter and more powerful. especially smart ones like that.
Well let me ask you this, has he ever shown that it WON'T work since then? Cause otherwise, it's still a valid strategy.

darthgoober
Originally posted by bigbran
Wait, didn't Superman put his hand through him, and vibrate Borg into destruction?
Damn it bigbran, I just noticed you beat me to it by a minute. mad stick out tongue

nvrbeenwthagirl
Originally posted by darthgoober
Well let me ask you this, has he ever shown that it WON'T work since then? Cause otherwise, it's still a valid strategy.

To be honest I dont' know, i'm not a fan of the Superman mythos. But it does seem odd that Superman could punch thru a being stronger and tuffer than him. Makes you wonder if that wasn't PIS.

darthgoober
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
To be honest I dont' know, i'm not a fan of the Superman mythos. But it does seem odd that Superman could punch thru a being stronger and tuffer than him. Makes you wonder if that wasn't PIS.
Could be, I havn't seen a lot of Cyborgs appearances. Though it seems to me, that it wouldn't actually be PIS, unless he'd shown resistence to it in the first place.

Avalonofthewind
Originally posted by darthgoober
With Runners speed, couldn't he just take out Cyborg like Supes did, by vibrating his arm through him, and shaking him to pieces? I'm not saying that it would be easy for him to get the opening, but I'm sure an opening would present itself during the fight.

Physical attacks can be absolutely useless when he wants them to be. Runner is in no way having an easy fight.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y112/avalonofthewind/wall3.jpg

Howard_Jones
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Physical attacks can be absolutely useless when he wants them to be. Runner is in no way having an easy fight.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y112/avalonofthewind/wall3.jpg

and that proves?

Avalonofthewind
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Physical attacks can be absolutely useless when he wants them to be. Runner is in no way having an easy fight.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y112/avalonofthewind/wall3.jpg

He didn't find Surfer to be much of a threat in their x-over.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y112/avalonofthewind/cyborgsurfer2.jpg

And Eradicator is nearly the same character as Surfer + add Supergirl, Steel, and Superboy. He had an easy time with them all at once.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y112/avalonofthewind/Beatdown3.jpg

Avalonofthewind
Originally posted by Howard_Jones
and that proves?

That you're really dense.

DarkCrawler
Surfer was far from going all-out against Cyborg there.

Seriously, what is Cyborg going to do? There is no way that he can even hit Runner if he doesn't want. Runner can just beat him to death or blast him into death, pick your poison.

Avalonofthewind
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Surfer was far from going all-out against Cyborg there.

Seriously, what is Cyborg going to do? There is no way that he can even hit Runner if he doesn't want. Runner can just beat him to death or blast him into death, pick your poison.

What makes you think Runner is so much faster than Borg? Seriously?

On top of that what is Runner going to do? Even if he breaks a part of borg they guy can reconfigure indefinitely into more powerful forms. The guy has all sort of weaponry and scanning available to him.

Think about it. He's part kryptonian which already makes him fast, and on top of that he's tech more advanced than the Eradicators was. The Eradicator has crossed the universe in record speeds himself.

Howard_Jones
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
He didn't find Surfer to be much of a threat in their x-over.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y112/avalonofthewind/cyborgsurfer2.jpg

Crossovers are non-canonical, unless you wanna say Thanos is as powerful as Parallax wink

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind

And Eradicator is nearly the same character as Surfer + add Supergirl, Steel, and Superboy. He had an easy time with them all at once.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y112/avalonofthewind/Beatdown3.jpg

Eradicator has never done anything close to what the Surfer has done in speed, durability, or anything. He's nowhere close to Surfer.

Are you known as Jellyrobes on Superhero Chat?

Avalonofthewind
Originally posted by Howard_Jones
Crossovers are non-canonical, unless you wanna say Thanos is as powerful as Parallax wink

One battle has nothing to do with another. If you want to take the Thanos vs Parallax debate. Feel free. They were only shown equal AFTER Thanos took some Oan energy.

Besides, some xovers are better than the NON CANON crap strategies I've seen here.

Originally posted by Howard_Jones
Eradicator has never done anything close to what the Surfer has done in speed, durability, or anything. He's nowhere close to Surfer.

Really? Guess you've never read up on the Eradicator then and have no clue what his powerset is. Nice try though. Stick to your Marvel only ways.


Originally posted by Howard_Jones
Are you known as Jellyrobes on Superhero Chat?

Nope, but are you trying to work on your 3rd ban or something?
You would figure a guy would learn to chill out after being banned for being an idiot a couple of times.

You want to be treated respectfully? Next time come into debates by ummm..debating...not the crap you tried to pull.

Howard_Jones
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
One battle has nothing to do with another. If you want to take the Thanos vs Parallax debate. Feel free. They were only shown equal AFTER Thanos took some Oan energy.




Really? Guess you've never read up on the Eradicator then and have no clue what his powerset is. Nice try though. Stick to your Marvel only ways.




Nope, but are you trying to work on your 3rd ban or something?
You would figure a guy would learn to chill out after being banned for being an idiot a couple of times.

You want to be treated respectfully? Next time come into debates by ummm..debating...not the crap you tried to pull.

I've read Eradicator's appearances from Reign of the Supermen up to Majestic appearing in DC. He's never done anything close to what the Surfer has done.

Also, I don't expect to be treated respectfully from Superman fanboys. You, and every one of them seem to have a very twisted version of just about every comic they read.

Keep it up with your stupid claims though. This thread is gold. laughing

Avalonofthewind
Originally posted by Howard_Jones
I've read Eradicator's appearances from Reign of the Supermen up to Majestic appearing in DC. He's never done anything close to what the Surfer has done.

Also, I don't expect to be treated respectfully from Superman fanboys. You, and every one of them seem to have a very twisted version of just about every comic they read.

Keep it up with your stupid claims though. This thread is gold. laughing

If those are the only appearances you read of the character then you don't know what the hell you're talking about and definitely shouldn't be making an opinion.

The only Supeman Fanboy here is you actually. You don't see me going into threads chasing the "S" sign just to defame the character.

Your twisted logic is appreciated here and it sure is gold. You always have your forum and defend Thor like the twisted fanboy that you are.

Howard_Jones
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
If those are the only appearances you read of the character then you don't know what the hell you're talking about and definitely shouldn't be making an opinion.

The only Supeman Fanboy here is you actually. You don't see me going into threads chasing the "S" sign just to defame the character.

Your twisted logic is appreciated here and it sure is gold. You always have your forum and defend Thor like the twisted fanboy that you are.

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Avalonofthewind
Originally posted by Howard_Jones
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More wonderful debating. Why oh why have they banned you so?

Since you've been wasting thread space...let's just All do that then!

Howard_Jones
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
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More wonderful debating. Why oh why have they banned you so?

Since you've been wasting thread space...let's just All do that then!

Gee, I wasn't aware that I'm hosted on Tripod.com.

Madvillain
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
What makes you think Runner is so much faster than Borg? Seriously?



Does Cyborg Superman travel at warp speeds?

DarkCrawler
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
What makes you think Runner is so much faster than Borg? Seriously?

The fact that he is probably on top 10 fastest beings in the Universe, having had 13 BILLION years to perfect his speed and dedicated his life to it? The fact that Thanos was scared of his speed?

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
On top of that what is Runner going to do? Even if he breaks a part of borg they guy can reconfigure indefinitely into more powerful forms. The guy has all sort of weaponry and scanning available to him.

How about every time he breaks a part he drags it into lightyears away?

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Think about it. He's part kryptonian which already makes him fast, and on top of that he's tech more advanced than the Eradicators was. The Eradicator has crossed the universe in record speeds himself.

Runner is still leagues faster then Eradicator.

Avalonofthewind
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
The fact that he is probably on top 10 fastest beings in the Universe, having had 13 BILLION years to perfect his speed and dedicated his life to it? The fact that Thanos was scared of his speed?

13 billion years and he was beaten by Thanos who is far slower than any of the characters we've mentioned.


Originally posted by DarkCrawler
How about every time he breaks a part he drags it into lightyears away?

What if Borg simply changed his body into vibranium or simply made his body pliable like he did against electric Supes? That tactic would be useless then.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Runner is still leagues faster then Eradicator.

At crossing the universe? Debateable.

Avalonofthewind
Originally posted by Madvillain
Does Cyborg Superman travel at warp speeds?

He visits universes like bee's visit flowers, so yes.

Howard_Jones
Dude, Thanos needed an Infinity Gem to beat him.

Also, he's not a walking energy signature like Energy Superman was.

Your case is pretty weak, man.

Avalonofthewind
Originally posted by Howard_Jones
Dude, Thanos needed an Infinity Gem to beat him.

Also, he's not a walking energy signature like Energy Superman was.

Your case is pretty weak, man.

I've never claimed anything ridiculous like Borg wins 10/10.

All I've said from the beginning is that if Borg fights intelligently he can win.

Seeing Borgs powerset (which IMO is FAR above Superman's) it's completely possible. The guy is unkillable, and pretty much indestructable.

Had you come in without the sillyness, this could have been a fun, rational, debate.

Howard_Jones
Henshaw has never done anything close to Runner's speed. no expression

and why in the devil are you comparing Runner to Superman?

xmarksthespot
Lovely pictures of vodka bottles and Mickey Mouse(?) aside. The Runner ftw.

Avalonofthewind
Originally posted by Howard_Jones
Henshaw has never done anything close to Runner's speed. no expression

and why in the devil are you comparing Runner to Superman?

A computer mind that comprehends things that GOD's can't comprehend.

He's more advanced than the Eradicator who crossed the universe in 3 panels (from the expanding edge of it..as far as you can go) and has even MORE tech at his disposal including New god tech.

He can be in more than 1 body simultaneously. Can create virtually any weapon.

He's a lot more dangerous than you give him credit for.

Howard_Jones
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
A computer mind that comprehends things that GOD's can't comprehend.

He's more advanced than the Eradicator who crossed the universe in 3 panels (from the expanding edge of it..as far as you can go) and has even MORE tech at his disposal including New god tech.

He can be in more than 1 body simultaneously. Can create virtually any weapon.

He's a lot more dangerous than you give him credit for.

I'm not saying that he isn't dangerous.

I'm saying he can't beat Runner.

Tek888
the runner is just WAY to fast

Avalonofthewind
Originally posted by Howard_Jones
I'm not saying that he isn't dangerous.

I'm saying he can't beat Runner.

Then why not simply have come in and said that?

Why come in with silly insults? Pages were wasted with back and forth.

Howard_Jones
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Then why not simply have come in and said that?

Why come in with silly insults? Pages were wasted with back and forth.

Dude, any attempt at evidence contrary of Cyborg Superman getting rocked like a midget fighting Rocky Balboa is just flat out idiotic. That's why I've thrown the insults and such, because there's no way that he can do it.

DarkCrawler
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
13 billion years and he was beaten by Thanos who is far slower than any of the characters we've mentioned.

Beaten by Thanos with TIME GEM after Thanos tricked him into talking...before that he was kicking his ass.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
What if Borg simply changed his body into vibranium or simply made his body pliable like he did against electric Supes? That tactic would be useless then.

Besides Cyborg never even having heard of vibranium, Runner could rip vibranium apart too.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
At crossing the universe? Debateable.

Not really. Since when Eradicator has crossed Universe, anyway?

Avalonofthewind
Originally posted by Howard_Jones
Dude, any attempt at evidence contrary of Cyborg Superman getting rocked like a midget fighting Rocky Balboa is just flat out idiotic. That's why I've thrown the insults and such, because there's no way that he can do it.

So because someone has a different opinion, it's OK to come into threads spewing insults.

That alone is questionable logic...but to each his own.

Brutacus
Runner wins this come on,
One of the elders vs a very powerful cyborg??

Runner take's it.

Avalonofthewind
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Beaten by Thanos with TIME GEM after Thanos tricked him into talking...before that he was kicking his ass.

Exactly. Tricked. Henshaw is a good trickster himself. Runner isn't the brightest bulb out there.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Besides Cyborg never even having heard of vibranium, Runner could rip vibranium apart too.

Do you have proof that runner can rip something as strong as vibranium apart?

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Not really. Since when Eradicator has crossed Universe, anyway?

He did it to warn earth that Imperiex was coming. My sig is a panel from that feat.

xmarksthespot
Vibranium isn't necessarily that durable - it absorbs kinetic impact directed at it. I don't recall how well it fares against stress forces. It apparently sublimes at about 3,500 K about the same as iron.

DarkCrawler
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Exactly. Tricked. Henshaw is a good trickster himself. Runner isn't the brightest bulb out there.

Henshaw won't be able to do that in here...and his trickery is nothing to compared to Thanos. Henshaw also doesn't own Time Gem... What the f**k?

Anyway, none of this matters since Runner literally can't die. Death has forbidden all Elders from entering his realm. Not that Cyborg would have the neccessary power to kill Runner anyway.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Do you have proof that runner can rip something as strong as vibranium apart?

Seeing as people lot weaker then he has...

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
He did it to warn earth that Imperiex was coming. My sig is a panel from that feat.

Sure it was the whole Universe, or just the galaxy? Couple of galaxies? Because Universe is limitless.

Avalonofthewind
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Henshaw won't be able to do that in here...and his trickery is nothing to compared to Thanos. Henshaw also doesn't own Time Gem... What the f**k?

So Henshaw couldn't have Runner fight one of his duplicate bodies and blast, willhunter, contain, etc Runner when he least expected it?

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Anyway, none of this matters since Runner literally can't die. Death has forbidden all Elders from entering his realm. Not that Cyborg would have the neccessary power to kill Runner anyway.

Well then there is a problem since Borg has not been shown to be killable either. Add an adaptable body to it that can create ANY weapon and we have a tough battle.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Seeing as people lot weaker then he has...

Which means what? Different powersets. Where is a scan showing Runner ripping or breaking apart any kind of strong metal..ie Adamantium or Vibranium.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Sure it was the whole Universe, or just the galaxy? Couple of galaxies? Because Universe is limitless.

From the EXPANDING EDGE of the Universe to Earth in 3 panels...and the Eradicator is ANCIENT Kryptonian tech. Henshaws was modern and far more advanced.

DarkCrawler
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
So Henshaw couldn't have Runner fight one of his duplicate bodies and blast, willhunter, contain, etc Runner when he least expected it?

With Runner's speeds I sincerely doubt that he can surprise him. Or even catch him (Again, neither Thanos or Surfer could)

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Well then there is a problem since Borg has not been shown to be killable either. Add an adaptable body to it that can create ANY weapon and we have a tough battle.

Doubt that any of his weapons do much at Runner. Or even hti him (with his speed).

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Which means what? Different powersets. Where is a scan showing Runner ripping or breaking apart any kind of strong metal..ie Adamantium or Vibranium.

Through strength...they broke it through strength...huh

And we were talking about vibranium, not adamantium...

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
From the EXPANDING EDGE of the Universe to Earth in 3 panels...and the Eradicator is ANCIENT Kryptonian tech. Henshaws was modern and far more advanced.

But not the same tech, though. What are Cyborg's best speed feats?

darthgoober
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Physical attacks can be absolutely useless when he wants them to be. Runner is in no way having an easy fight.

Hey, I never said that it would be easy. In fact I actually made a comment about that specifically.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
What makes you think Runner is so much faster than Borg? Seriously?
Well, he did once hear a woman scream from across the universe, and reach her before she finished.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind On top of that what is Runner going to do? Even if he breaks a part of borg they guy can reconfigure indefinitely into more powerful forms. The guy has all sort of weaponry and scanning available to him.
Yes, but since is taking place in space, it's entirely possible that he would have to leave the area to remake himself. And by forum rules, any combatants who leave the battlefield voluntarily, forfeit the match.

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