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Can it be??? who can get more info on this, please! So far its all i can find on the matter.

If this is true, it is the awsomest thing ever.

It may just be a new Captain Marvel. I don't think Mar-Vell is coming back.

Originally posted by Howard_Jones
It may just be a new Captain Marvel. I don't think Mar-Vell is coming back. Dont Jinx it you fool!!! Im seriously wanting him to come back! Nothings wrong with and old "and missed" hero to return. I wana see how he takes the change Marvel Universe has taken, and how his children have been treated! Much ass to be kicked once he comes back.

I'd honestly like to see Phyla take up the mantle in her Father and Brother's honor. I kinda saw her adorning their graves in Annihilation as a signal to that.

I hope Mar-vell stays dead. Bringing him back really destroys the whole thing with his death. It makes that whole storyline therefore insignificant.

Originally posted by Howard_Jones
I'd honestly like to see Phyla take up the mantle in her Father and Brother's honor. I kinda saw her adorning their graves in Annihilation as a signal to that. duno bout Phyla takin up th mantle but I did like that Annihilation issue where she does that.

Originally posted by The Fake Macoy
I hope Mar-vell stays dead. Bringing him back really destroys the whole thing with his death. It makes that whole storyline therefore insignificant.

i don't know why people keep saying stuff like this. it really doesn't make it insignificant...it's still the same story, complete unto itself with an emotional impact left intact.

all resurrection does is give the character potential for growth.

Originally posted by The Fake Macoy
I hope Mar-vell stays dead. Bringing him back really destroys the whole thing with his death. It makes that whole storyline therefore insignificant. What he said.

Theres an issue of Cosmic Powers or something like that where Thanos brought him back to life with the Reality gem, and he didn't want to return because he had accepted his death and asked Thanos to let him stay dead, thats the way it should be. Hopefully its the return of someone else.

Originally posted by outavodka
Can it be??? who can get more info on this, please! So far its all i can find on the matter.
I hope he get's back as Genis cause I don't really like the Photon outfit.

/Care.

Wake me up when something interesting happens.

Originally posted by Dinalfos
/Care.

Wake me up when something interesting happens.
Hulk wil return to Earth

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Hulk wil return to Earth

Well, yeah, that's much better, actually.

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
I hope he get's back as Genis cause I don't really like the Photon outfit.

Genis coming back would be nice. Other people have suggested that it's gonna be Speedball that will be the next Captain Marvel.

Wow, so when is that issue of Civil War going to come out?

Mar-Vell needs to stay dead. Bringing him back to life would only upset the natural order of things - those were his own words when Thanos used the Reality gem to resurrect him temporarily.

that cover bothers me

looks like it is set to become the next installment of the "left behind" series

Originally posted by Galan007
Wow, so when is that issue of Civil War going to come out?

marvel confirmed it's not going to be mar-vell

Originally posted by Galan007
Wow, so when is that issue of Civil War going to come out?

Originally posted by Galan007
last i herd near the end of Civil War or somewhere near the end.

I will say it. If it's Mar-vell. I'm dropping every single Marvel title except The Ultimate universe, and the good x-titles. He died a memerable death and if he comes back after staying dead 26 years. I'm done with Marvel Comics.

Marvell should stay dead. Starlin said he never wanted to bring him back.

And yes bringing him back does cheapen his character. Having Marvell die was a huge deal and they should have the balls to keep him that way.

Genis is coming back.

Edited the thread title to avoid possible spoilers. Besides, this could be Hulk, Thor, Marvel, etc.

Originally posted by outavodka
last i herd near the end of Civil War or somewhere near the end. When is the civil war series supposed to end?

Pretty soon right?

well most of the Marvel writters said CW would end before summer was over, so your guess is as good as mine.

Originally posted by outavodka
well most of the Marvel writters said CW would end before summer was over, so your guess is as good as mine. IMO Civil War is dragging on a bit too much, but hopefully "The Return" will make it worth while.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Edited the thread title to avoid possible spoilers. Besides, this could be Hulk, Thor, Marvel, etc. seriously whats the diffrence between Marvel's Return and Nate Grey Returns in 2006? well what im saying is oh never mind...

The Hulk? Thor? This is obviously the return of captain marvel. Whether it be genis-vell, Mar-vell, or the new one Marvel has hinted at. The logo is the logo of Captain marvel. Not Thor. So that doesn't make any sense. Now i won't mind Genis comin back. The way he died was despicable for a character that I like and that's why I dropped the thunderbolts title. Sorry to rant like this. But both Captain marvels are in my top 5 favorite marvel heroes.

Originally posted by Redatom65
The Hulk? Thor? This is obviously the return of captain marvel. Whether it be genis-vell, Mar-vell, or the new one Marvel has hinted at. The logo is the logo of Captain marvel. Not Thor. So that doesn't make any sense. Now i won't mind Genis comin back. The way he died was despicable for a character that I like and that's why I dropped the thunderbolts title. Sorry to rant like this. But both Captain marvels are in my top 5 favorite marvel heroes. OH no your right i felt the same about his death and reacted the same way!!!, I actually want Genis to come back, I mean its not all that out of his reach to come back from death. Zemo split his body parts in diff universes doesnt necsisarily mean hes dead, he split him cuz he knew he would jut come back. Whos to say Genis doesnt find himself?

i hated his last words. "Oh no give me a second chance." It made me cringe. Damn you Niceiza! Don't get me wrong he's done some good work on Cable and X-force. ut it seemed like he did the THunderbolts to the lack of his best ability. Especially with Genis

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Edited the thread title to avoid possible spoilers. Besides, this could be Hulk, Thor, Marvel, etc.

Hulk or Thor? How?

Originally posted by outavodka
seriously whats the diffrence between Marvel's Return and Nate Grey Returns in 2006? well what im saying is oh never mind...

Nate Grey's return is in a What If...

regardless the 5 most popular choices to people are as followed

Mar-vell
Genis-vell
Marvel Boy
Hulkling(haven't read young avengers laltly so i don know if he's out)
Rick Jones. I don't beleive but, I've heard some stories

I know that almost everyone hates bringing characters back from the dead but I implore you to think of me and others like me.

Captain Marvel (the first) died 26 years ago. I'm only 22. I never had a chance to learn to love this character. All I know is that he was a great hero and he died of cancer. And you know what most new readers arn't going to search around for old back issues and trades of a character they don't really know and is not going to do anything in the future anyway.

So think about it. 26 years of readers with no idea who this hero was or why he was so great.

If you like him so much then why do are you so adament that he stay unknown to everyone who was not of age to know him?

Is it so bad to for the new readers to get to love Captain Marvel?

I know I want to get to know him or her.

Originally posted by outavodka
Dont Jinx it you fool!!! Im seriously wanting him to come back! Nothings wrong with and old "and missed" hero to return. I wana see how he takes the change Marvel Universe has taken, and how his children have been treated! Much ass to be kicked once he comes back.

Well DC brought back Jason Todd and Then Marvel brought back Bucky and I dont see why not bring back the original Captain Marvel since DC brought back Hal Jordan as GL.

Originally posted by Darth Vicious
Well DC brought back Jason Todd and Then Marvel brought back Bucky and I dont see why not bring back the original Captain Marvel since DC brought back Hal Jordan as GL.

Yeah, bringing back Hal sucked ass though.

It's totally against the character to bring him back, he accepted his fate. He tried to fight death for a while, but realised that he'd never defeat it so gave in. When thanos revived him he told him he didn't want to live.

Bringing him back would make a mockery of that, I'd rather he stay dead.

Originally posted by "V"
Yeah, bringing back Hal sucked ass though.

It's totally against the character to bring him back, he accepted his fate. He tried to fight death for a while, but realised that he'd never defeat it so gave in. When thanos revived him he told him he didn't want to live.

Bringing him back would make a mockery of that, I'd rather he stay dead.

What makes you so sure that he wants to be back? What if the story involves him coming back to a world he longer wanted to be a part of, to circumstances he's not used to and forcing him a make decisions he doesn't want to? How does he cope with life he no longer wants and will he stand up and be the hero he's remembered as? I think it could make for an excellent story

Originally posted by marvelprince
What makes you so sure that he wants to be back? What if the story involves him coming back to a world he longer wanted to be a part of, to circumstances he's not used to and forcing him a make decisions he doesn't want to? How does he cope with life he no longer wants and will he stand up and be the hero he's remembered as? I think it could make for an excellent story

Makes me so sure he wants to be back? that he doesnt? because he said so himself, he accepted his death. It might make for a good story, doesn't mean I'll approve of it though.

Originally posted by Beta Ray Howard
Genis coming back would be nice. Other people have suggested that it's gonna be Speedball that will be the next Captain Marvel.


Speedball is now the T.Bolt called Pennance.

Originally posted by "V"
Makes me so sure he wants to be back? that he doesnt? because he said so himself, he accepted his death. It might make for a good story, doesn't mean I'll approve of it though.

I was agreeing with you. I was saying that what if he ended up returning, but didn't want to. A man who's alive but had accepted death could be very interesting

Originally posted by marvelprince
I was agreeing with you. I was saying that what if he ended up returning, but didn't want to. A man who's alive but had accepted death could be very interesting

Well it indeed would cheapen death throught ALL of comics, seeing as he's the only character not to be reborn really that was so influencial. But if it was pulled off well It could be a good read. I'd still prefer Genis.

I think one of the main reasons he should stay dead is that he died much differently than most comic characters. He died of cancer, something very real. Comics are a form of escapism, but at the same time they mirror the world. Tony Stark, Iron Man has battled alcoholism for a long time now, we've seen him fight to stay sober, crawling out of the bottle and staying on the straight and narrow was at one point a defining part of his character, he did something difficult but very human and identifiable at the same time.

Could Tony, or Reed Richards or Pym or Beast or someone create some invention to cure Tony of his alcoholism? Most definately, it's comics after all. But that would cheapen Tony's battle, it would cheapen the story and would make the real world connection he once had completely void and useless.

Same thing with the new Speedy, Mia, who has AIDS. Any writer could get rid of that, some super machine or alien blood transfusion gets rid of her AIDS. Great for Mia, shitty for any fan of the character who identifies with her and has to struggle with it in real life. It cheapens the character, the stories and in a sense the real life affliction, for the writers to care so little about something so big that they'd write it away in 22 pages.

Making light of something serious and real world like cancer, saying Mar-Vell just got better because he's special would really undermine that storyline and the credibility of comics to portray intense subjects.

not to mention a character who died towards the end of an age. I don't think the captain could be writtan with an ongoing series. It just wouldn't have the charm of the silver age of comics. If anything. Do what you did to the x-men. The unwrittan adventures of Captain mar-Vell.

never really cared for vell. Though I could see how bringing him back would piss off a lot of his old fans.

http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=98031

Well, it came out today and it's official...





















Mar-Vell is back. Not sure how I feel, it's done in kind of a neat way that doesn't undo his death. Could be neat.

Originally posted by ScarletSpider
Well, it came out today and it's official...



Mar-Vell is back. Not sure how I feel, it's done in kind of a neat way that doesn't undo his death. Could be neat. Really?

Was it any good?

Haven't read the issue myself, but apparently This is Mar-Vell before he died, at a point when he was time travelling.

Interesting way to do it, we'll see how it turns out.

Sweet.
Wait, about his death. Didn't Genis recently smash his head in? Or what were the circumstances?
Thanos also brought him back to life, just to kill him to (I'm sure).

Just read it, Meh.. It's a bit random, they get him to be warden of 42. Also it looks like there is going to be an Ongoing for the character in question. At the end of it, it had Continued in: Captain Marvel 1

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Originally posted by Darth Vicious
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Sentry is even more powerful than I gave him credit for!

Also, why is Mar-Vell not going after the Annihilation Wave? His cosmic awareness is the best besides Eon. He could easily feel the disturbance.

Thanks.

well....I'm not sure what to take out of it. I strangly was opposed against Mar comin back. Just for the way he died. Mar-Vell was one of my favorite characters. But he didn't come back from the dead though....So w'll see I guess...

Honestly, reading the issue i was happy to see Mar back. He died before my time, but i've always been interested in the character. I'm actually looking forward to his ongoing/mini (whatever it is).

And Sentry was badass. Enough of this "still too early to tell" crap, he's clearly at the very tippy top of the top tier, if not a notch above.

Originally posted by Lucid Lui
Honestly, reading the issue i was happy to see Mar back. He died before my time, but i've always been interested in the character. I'm actually looking forward to his ongoing/mini (whatever it is).

And Sentry was badass. Enough of this "still too early to tell" crap, he's clearly at the very tippy top of the top tier, if not a notch above. Ya. I always liked Mar-Vell too. He just seemed so interesting. I liked his death book, and everyone liked him so much.
I was kind of looking forward to him fighting Sentry in the start...

Ya, after seeing that, I respect Sentry... a lot.

Mar-vell should have stayed dead

I mean for Pete's sake, nobody wanted him back, Marvel!

Originally posted by Grimm22
Mar-vell should have stayed dead

I mean for Pete's sake, nobody wanted him back, Marvel! Technically he still is dead.

Originally posted by Grimm22
Mar-vell should have stayed dead

I mean for Pete's sake, nobody wanted him back, Marvel!
to be fair i wanted it to be Genis, but i dun mind Mar being back just weird to see him interact>sorta like Cap outa the ice block>but he still kicks unlimited amount of ass so we'll see how this goes.

Originally posted by outavodka
to be fair i wanted it to be Genis, but i dun mind Mar being back just weird to see him interact>sorta like Cap outa the ice block>but he still kicks unlimited amount of ass so we'll see how this goes.
I also wanted Genis to be back.....

I've been on SHC too long to have wanted it to be Genis-Vell (Genis101, I hate you)

Though I'm glad it's Mar-Vell, I'm semi wanting to know the effect on issue 7. What's the cover art?

Loved the Mar-Vell story. Jenkins did a wonderful job. I felt they way they brought him back was very good and didn't cheapen his death at all.

And more bad-assery for the Sentry. Nice

i too wanted the son of Mar-Vell to return

Pressure pushing down on me.

Just waiting for Thor...

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Just waiting for Thor... I agree. Man they botched that up. My last hope is that he shows up during the civil war battle but I doubt it.

Originally posted by Big Sexy
I agree. Man they botched that up. My last hope is that he shows up during the civil war battle but I doubt it.

Exactly. They hype us all up in 2006 claiming Thor's returning, and they make it clone.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Exactly. They hype us all up in 2006 claiming Thor's returning, and they make it clone. I hope he returns for this final battle because by the look of the teams, Cap isn't winning.

i would preder him not to return at all :-/

Originally posted by Big Sexy
I hope he returns for this final battle because by the look of the teams, Cap isn't winning.

Yeah, if Thor doesn't return I'm not sure how Marvel's gonna go about making the final battle believable.

Funny...
Thor clone, Sentry, Iron Man... which side do you think is going to win...

Originally posted by bigbran
Funny...
Thor clone, Sentry, Iron Man... which side do you think is going to win...

Thats why I said they need a real powerhouse such as the "real" Thor. I mean, how does Marvel plan on even making this a believable battle? It should end in like 15 seconds.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Thats why I said they need a real powerhouse such as the "real" Thor. I mean, how does Marvel plan on even making this a believable battle? It should end in like 15 seconds. My guess (and I hope I'm wrong) is that Namor will change his mind and him and Atlantis will side in Caps favor.

Originally posted by Big Sexy
My guess (and I hope I'm wrong) is that Namor will change his mind and him and Atlantis will side in Caps favor.

Your probably right...

I hope Bill shows up and helps out and then when they're still losing Thor shows up,get the old crew back together for some Thundercrackin asswhuppin.

Originally posted by Redatom65
i would preder him not to return at all :-/

Tis comic book sacrilege to say such a thing.

It's the Barry Allen explanation. Bah!

Sure he may not have been technically resurrected, but I dunno I just don't like Mar-Vell that much.

At least Genis has that badass helmet

It just be me, but all this "power of a million exploding suns" Sentry crap is starting to get on my nerves. His character has some potential and though I really don't care deeply for Sentry, I was actually getting into this story....but then here came the "million exploding suns," trash. I mean its just really takes me out of the character. It even sounds like some crack-pot sh*t his creators made up, it doesn't even sound believable, and this is by comic book standards. I don't think writers understand the kind of power that is, I mean if it was one he would still be incredibly powerful, but a million come on, at least try when making a new character. If really was a million, one punch would destroy the planet, he would have no choice but to kill people when he hit them. There is no way to restrain that much power to the level he is. sorry but its just bullshit writing.

Originally posted by Grimm22
Sure he may not have been technically resurrected, but I dunno I just don't like Mar-Vell that much.

At least Genis has that badass helmet Thats insane Genis

Originally posted by db_renji
It just be me, but all this "power of a million exploding suns" Sentry crap is starting to get on my nerves. His character has some potential and though I really don't care deeply for Sentry, I was actually getting into this story....but then here came the "million exploding suns," trash. I mean its just really takes me out of the character. It even sounds like some crack-pot sh*t his creators made up, it doesn't even sound believable, and this is by comic book standards. I don't think writers understand the kind of power that is, I mean if it was one he would still be incredibly powerful, but a million come on, at least try when making a new character. If really was a million, one punch would destroy the planet, he would have no choice but to kill people when he hit them. There is no way to restrain that much power to the level he is. sorry but its just bullshit writing.

Look at what he told Creel. He DOES have the capability to hold back and does so all the time.

Creel even said something along the lines of "I've never felt anything so powerful." and "Is this what it feels like to be god?"

Creel's absorbed Uru and asgardian energies.

And he considered (what seemed to be) a small fraction of Sentry's power beyond those.

Sentry's pretty high up there. I'm just waiting for him to cut loose and give us some real Superman-level feats. .

Originally posted by Soljer
Look at what he told Creel. He DOES have the capability to hold back and does so all the time.

Creel even said something along the lines of "I've never felt anything so powerful." and "Is this what it feels like to be god?"

Creel's absorbed Uru and asgardian energies.

And he considered (what seemed to be) a small fraction of Sentry's power beyond those.

Sentry's pretty high up there. I'm just waiting for him to cut loose and give us some real Superman-level feats. .

Just to expand on what Soljer said:

The power WOULD be WAY to much for one man to contain, but Sentry's mind (being a few seconds in the future or... something ) is extremley powerful. If it wasn't, the Void would break free (hence when he was going mental)

It's 'cause of those mental capacity capabilities, that he is able to restrict and limit his own powers.

Notice that, if all of the power was uncontained by the mind, it would destroy a man (hence Creel)

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
Just to expand on what Soljer said:

The power WOULD be WAY to much for one man to contain, but Sentry's mind (being a few seconds in the future or... something ) is extremley powerful. If it wasn't, the Void would break free (hence when he was going mental)

It's 'cause of those mental capacity capabilities, that he is able to restrict and limit his own powers.

Notice that, if all of the power was uncontained by the mind, it would destroy a man (hence Creel) dun see why it doesnt make sence. Still gota giv him props on the ownage.

Originally posted by outavodka
dun see why it doesnt make sence. Still gota giv him props on the ownage.

Do you think I thought it doesn't make sense?

'Cause it does...

And the ownage was awesome

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
Do you think I thought it doesn't make sense?

'Cause it does...

And the ownage was awesome OK genius. Why does paper beat a rock?
The rock could go through the paper, and how does covering something up beat it? The rock could cream the fu ck out of the paper. Make sense of that!
Just something I had to get off my mind... you can tell what state of mind I'm in...

Originally posted by bigbran
OK genius. Why does paper beat a rock?
The rock could go through the paper, and how does covering something up beat it? The rock could cream the fu ck out of the paper. Make sense of that!
Just something I had to get off my mind... you can tell what state of mind I'm in...

To go along with that...

"sure poop stinks, but what the f*ck are you going to do about it?"

Originally posted by MightyEInherjar
To go along with that...

"sure poop stinks, but what the f*ck are you going to do about it?"

A wise man once said"a man who is standing on the corner of a street with his hands down his pants is not feeling crazy,he feeeling nuts."

Originally posted by King_Mungi
It's the Barry Allen explanation. Bah! Thats what I thought too. Lame!

Originally posted by db_renji
It just be me, but all this "power of a million exploding suns" Sentry crap is starting to get on my nerves. His character has some potential and though I really don't care deeply for Sentry, I was actually getting into this story....but then here came the "million exploding suns," trash. I mean its just really takes me out of the character. It even sounds like some crack-pot sh*t his creators made up, it doesn't even sound believable, and this is by comic book standards. I don't think writers understand the kind of power that is, I mean if it was one he would still be incredibly powerful, but a million come on, at least try when making a new character. If really was a million, one punch would destroy the planet, he would have no choice but to kill people when he hit them. There is no way to restrain that much power to the level he is. sorry but its just bullshit writing.

I think that was the whole point though, to show that the vast majority of times, Sentry is holding himself back on purpose so that he doesn't do too much damage. It is similar to DBZ characters, when they aren't amped up, they aren't very powerful, but when they power up fully it takes a universal threat to take them out.

The idea is that Sentry taps into existing power sources, and suns by nature in a way are exploding constantly, he is just telekinetically tapping into the existing power of the area around the earth in the Galaxy and making it his own. In his fight with Genis, it was implied that he had unlimited potential to tap into the existing energy of the universe.

It basically is like a built-in Power Gem, where he can simply will himself more power, to whatever extent he needs to go.

Well with Genis. Everyone ended up hating him because of Fabian Nicieza's terrible wrting on the character. Everyone loved Peter David's Genis. (2000) (2002) He did insane Genis and what not. So when Fabian when he realized he was writing a chracter bad instead of taking him out of his book killed him off entirely. And once again regarding thor I'm just not big on the revolving door that is death in marvel and DC

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
Do you think I thought it doesn't make sense?

'Cause it does...

And the ownage was awesome

great ownage

but, ya, I'm pretty sure that the writers are underestimating 1 000 000 exploding suns I don't know, maybe I just missed the part where all the matter between here and alpha centauri was annhiliated...

Originally posted by bigbran
OK genius. Why does paper beat a rock?
The rock could go through the paper, and how does covering something up beat it? The rock could cream the fu ck out of the paper. Make sense of that!
Just something I had to get off my mind... you can tell what state of mind I'm in...

Have you ever had a paper cut? They got some straight up gangsta fax machine papers out there so I wouldn't underestimate. Not to mention that rock needs momentum to build up speed while paper could always morph into a jet or a swan.

Paper 7-8/10 ftw

Originally posted by Soljer
Look at what he told Creel. He DOES have the capability to hold back and does so all the time.

Creel even said something along the lines of "I've never felt anything so powerful." and "Is this what it feels like to be god?"

Creel's absorbed Uru and asgardian energies.

And he considered (what seemed to be) a small fraction of Sentry's power beyond those.

Sentry's pretty high up there. I'm just waiting for him to cut loose and give us some real Superman-level feats. .

Galactus once feared Thor, stating that if he did not flee he would die at the hands of Thor. This is about as believable as Creel saying he's never feel such a thing as powerful as Sentry's energy. In fact, the writer most likely didn't read Creel's appearances with Thor and Asgard seeing as how he's absorbed godly energies before(Thor) and should already know what the power of a god feels like.

That would imply that Sentry's power is greater than Asgards, which it's not.

Sentry's not on the lv of Thor, Superman, Beta Ray Bill, Silver Surfer, Doc Strange, etc. he beat Absorbing Man, not that big of a deal.

Originally posted by Kutulu
I think that was the whole point though, to show that the vast majority of times, Sentry is holding himself back on purpose so that he doesn't do too much damage. It is similar to DBZ characters, when they aren't amped up, they aren't very powerful, but when they power up fully it takes a universal threat to take them out.

The idea is that Sentry taps into existing power sources, and suns by nature in a way are exploding constantly, he is just telekinetically tapping into the existing power of the area around the earth in the Galaxy and making it his own. In his fight with Genis, it was implied that he had unlimited potential to tap into the existing energy of the universe.

It basically is like a built-in Power Gem, where he can simply will himself more power, to whatever extent he needs to go. Sounds like Superman lol.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Galactus once feared Thor, stating that if he did not flee he would die at the hands of Thor. This is about as believable as Creel saying he's never feel such a thing as powerful as Sentry's energy. In fact, the writer most likely didn't read Creel's appearances with Thor and Asgard seeing as how he's absorbed godly energies before(Thor) and should already know what the power of a god feels like.

That would imply that Sentry's power is greater than Asgards, which it's not.

Sentry's not on the lv of Thor, Superman, Beta Ray Bill, Silver Surfer, Doc Strange, etc. he beat Absorbing Man, not that big of a deal.

Your in all kinds of denial aren't you. Creel has always been a tough opponent for Thor but Sentry owned him. Like seriously demolished him. And notice Creel asked if this is like what it is to be God. Not like a god (lowercase, big difference). Clearly Sentry's power, the fraction that AM absorbed, was more powerful than anything he had ever felt ie. more power than he ever took from Thor.

To look at the facts and still dispute that Sentry isn't at least on the same level of Thor is ridiculous

Originally posted by marvelprince
Your in all kinds of denial aren't you. Creel has always been a tough opponent for Thor but Sentry owned him. Like seriously demolished him. And notice Creel asked if this is like what it is to be God. Not like a god (lowercase, big difference). Clearly Sentry's power, the fraction that AM absorbed, was more powerful than anything he had ever felt ie. more power than he ever took from Thor.

To look at the facts and still dispute that Sentry isn't at least on the same level of Thor is ridiculous

He's not the same lv as Thor, Superman, Beta Ray Bill, etc. His best feats aren't even comparable to theirs.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
He's not the same lv as Thor, Superman, Beta Ray Bill, etc. His best feats aren't even comparable to theirs.

Sentry went toe to toe with Genis who took on Thor.

Demolished a herald of Galactus.

Demolished a villian who normally gives Thor a tough battle.

And you still don't think he's on the same level as those guys? Fact is Sentry doesn't have as much feats as Thor and co but everything that he's done so far since his reintroduction to the MU has at the very least put him on the same level

Originally posted by marvelprince
Sentry went toe to toe with Genis who took on Thor.

Demolished a herald of Galactus.

Demolished a villian who normally gives Thor a tough battle.

And you still don't think he's on the same level as those guys? Fact is Sentry doesn't have as much feats as Thor and co but everything that he's done so far since his reintroduction to the MU has at the very least put him on the same level

Genis was holding back, making that fight irrelevant.

Thor and Surfer have demolished Hearld's of Galactus.

Great, still though it's a single feat

Thor's battled and fared well against if not defeated characters such as Galactus, Ego, Mephisto, Hela, Mangog, Zeus, Surtur, Celestials, Stranger, Thanos, Infinity Watch, etc.

Surfer basically does the same as Thor.

Superman's fares well against if not defeats characters such as Darkseid, Doomsday, Mongul, Eradicator, etc.

Defeating a characters who can't even absorb the energy of a planet, doesn't make Sentry these characters lv.

wow. you ARE in denial.

get off the "absorbing the energy of a planet" thing. considering that thor and his hammer, amongst many other top tier beings, were ALSO on the planet, it's not exactly shameful.

genis and sentry were both holding back, and still throwing enough energy to destroy planets (plural). and when sentry said he wasn't going to hold back anymore, genis got out of there as quickly as he could. that fight is far from irrelevant.

on top of it all, the sentry has NEVER had a low showing, unlike thor and...ahem...bullets. so please, just admit that sentry is shaping up to be very much >=thor.

Originally posted by manorastroman
wow. you ARE in denial.

get off the "absorbing the energy of a planet" thing. considering that thor and his hammer, amongst many other top tier beings, were ALSO on the planet, it's not exactly shameful.

genis and sentry were both holding back, and still throwing enough energy to destroy planets (plural). and when sentry said he wasn't going to hold back anymore, genis got out of there as quickly as he could. that fight is far from irrelevant.

on top of it all, the sentry has NEVER had a low showing, unlike thor and...ahem...bullets. so please, just admit that sentry is shaping up to be very much >=thor.

That never stopped Thor from deflecting, and absorbing the null bomb that would have destroyed a 5th of the universe.

How many planets did they destroy on panel? none.

So being hurt by a playing Hulk, or being affected by flames from Iron Man aren't low showings?

By the way, we go by high showings and Thor, Superman's, and Surfer's high showings >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sentry's.

I hope when Creed returns, a writer will finally take it upon themselves to try something on the character than hasn't been used for a long time.

Character Development

you're not getting it. if thor and his hammer can absorb a null bomb that wuold destroy a fifth of the universe, than creel would have to absorb ALL THAT POWER plus everything else on the planet. i'm not sure why this isn't penetrating your skull.

on panel statements say that they were throwing around enough energy to lay waste to planets. just because the artist didn't show each planet individually exploding doesn't mean it never happened. and if the iron man and hulk things are your idea of a low showing, you're REALLY reaching. considering both those have more force than a bullet ( ). also considering that sentry wasn't hurt, he was just "affected". and if it's the same hulk incident, that was hardly indicitave of sentry's durability. they were both just messing around. besides, hulk has beaten thor senseless before.

overloading absorbing man effortlessly, destroying multiple planets while holding back, effortlessly snapping terrax's wrist and cosmic axe...these showings are in the top tier. deal with it.

Originally posted by manorastroman
you're not getting it. if thor and his hammer can absorb a null bomb that wuold destroy a fifth of the universe, than creel would have to absorb ALL THAT POWER plus everything else on the planet. i'm not sure why this isn't penetrating your skull.

on panel statements say that they were throwing around enough energy to lay waste to planets. just because the artist didn't show each planet individually exploding doesn't mean it never happened. and if the iron man and hulk things are your idea of a low showing, you're REALLY reaching. considering both those have more force than a bullet ( ). also considering that sentry wasn't hurt, he was just "affected". and if it's the same hulk incident, that was hardly indicitave of sentry's durability. they were both just messing around. besides, hulk has beaten thor senseless before.

overloading absorbing man effortlessly, destroying multiple planets while holding back, effortlessly snapping terrax's wrist and cosmic axe...these showings are in the top tier. deal with it.

Poor logic. The power contained in Mjolnir, and the energy it's able to absorb are two different things. Also, the energy required to destroy a 5th of the universe far outstrips the power contained by all earths hero's.

Ok, but on panel they were never shown to destroy any planets. On panel feats > comic narration.

Whats funny is that you've most likely never seen Thor get downed by a bullet, just heard it on the forums and thought it would be good to use in a debate.

Either way Sentry was effected by a hug, and a flame. Two thing Thor's wouldn't so much as feel, considering he's stood in the core of the sun and battled Celestials.

Thor has also killed Hulk before, so your point moot. I also guarantee Hulk wasn't just "hugging" Thor as he was Sentry.

he overloaded Absorbing man

He's never destroyed planets

Breaking someone's wrist isn't top tier

Breaking someone's cosmic axe isn't top tier

Sentry isn't on the Lv of Thor, BRB, Superman, Surfer, etc.

yes, but if mjolnir has enough power to absorb a null bomb, and mjolnir is on the planet absorbing man is attempting to absorb...how can you not understand this? absorbing man would be absorbing the power to absorb a null bomb, as well as mjolnir's other powers, as well as EVERYTHING ELSE ON EARTH. and not just absorbing, like in the case of a null bomb, but actually taking on each property.

please, show the scans where hulk hugs sentry and iron man boot-flames him. i think it's fairly obvious that he was not in fact "hurt" by either.

you're blatantly ignoring on panel narration because they didn't show each planet exploding? you really have a grudge against sentry.

and it wasn't just anyone's wrist and axe. it was terrax's. you know, herald level fellow?

i can see you're not willing to be convinced.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Genis was holding back, making that fight irrelevant.

Thor and Surfer have demolished Hearld's of Galactus.

Great, still though it's a single feat

Thor's battled and fared well against if not defeated characters such as Galactus, Ego, Mephisto, Hela, Mangog, Zeus, Surtur, Celestials, Stranger, Thanos, Infinity Watch, etc.

Surfer basically does the same as Thor.

Superman's fares well against if not defeats characters such as Darkseid, Doomsday, Mongul, Eradicator, etc.

Defeating a characters who can't even absorb the energy of a planet, doesn't make Sentry these characters lv.

No, they both were holding back but when Sentry decided to actually cut loss Genis hauled ass out of there.

Thor and Surfer have demolished heralds? Doesn't that prove my point that Sentry is on the same level?

So because Sentry hasn't collectively faced the entire MU you say he's not powerful enough? The opponents he's faced you've discount for some reason so I don't grasp your logic. He owned Absorbing Man and Terrax yet you still say he's done nothing.

Not sure the revelance of putting Superman into this.

AM's absorption thing has already been discussed to death so I'm not touching that. Point is he's absorbeb mjolner but he could handle the Sentry.

Also where did Iron Man's jets hurt him? If anything it seemed like an annoyance to him cause he still held on and was kicking the crap out of Tony. And when did this Hulk incident happen? It wouldn't have happened to have taken place in the negative zone huh?

Originally posted by marvelprince
And when did this Hulk incident happen? It wouldn't have happened to have taken place in the negative zone huh? No.
Sentry was looking for Hulk. Hulk grabbed him from behind and squeezed him. Sentry didn't fight back, and Hulk said "GOT YOU". All Sentry said, was "You sure did".
It meant nothing... nothing at all.

Originally posted by manorastroman
yes, but if mjolnir has enough power to absorb a null bomb, and mjolnir is on the planet absorbing man is attempting to absorb...how can you not understand this? absorbing man would be absorbing the power to absorb a null bomb, as well as mjolnir's other powers, as well as EVERYTHING ELSE ON EARTH. and not just absorbing, like in the case of a null bomb, but actually taking on each property.

please, show the scans where hulk hugs sentry and iron man boot-flames him. i think it's fairly obvious that he was not in fact "hurt" by either.

you're blatantly ignoring on panel narration because they didn't show each planet exploding? you really have a grudge against sentry.

and it wasn't just anyone's wrist and axe. it was terrax's. you know, herald level fellow?

i can see you're not willing to be convinced.

Horrible logic, something you actually got from another poster(who debates much better than yourself) that was actually never stated on panel. It was never stated that with the planet he was absorbing Mjolnir, and all the other miscellaneous things your pulling into this unaccomplished feat.

Bigbrane explained the Hulk feat.

When fighting Iron Man, IM hit Sentry with the flames from his rocket boosters. Sentry flinches and throws his arms up, moments later Sentry fights through them and grabs Tony's leg.

He's never been shown to be able to accomplish the feats mentioned, because of that there no reason to assume he can.

The same Terrax that's jobbed out constantly.

With more feats I will be.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Bigbrane explained the Hulk feat.
DAMNIT!
It isn't that hard to say!

"bigbran". No capitals, no "e", no "i", just "bigbran"!
I don't know how people have pronounced it wrong.

Originally posted by bigbran
No.
Sentry was looking for Hulk. Hulk grabbed him from behind and squeezed him. Sentry didn't fight back, and Hulk said "GOT YOU". All Sentry said, was "You sure did".
It meant nothing... nothing at all.

Kinky. ermm

Originally posted by bigbran
DAMNIT!
It isn't that hard to say!

"bigbran". No capitals, no "e", no "i", just "bigbran"!
I don't know how people have pronounced it wrong.

sorry

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Poor logic. The power contained in Mjolnir, and the energy it's able to absorb are two different things. Also, the energy required to destroy a 5th of the universe far outstrips the power contained by all earths hero's.

Ok, but on panel they were never shown to destroy any planets. On panel feats > comic narration.

Whats funny is that you've most likely never seen Thor get downed by a bullet, just heard it on the forums and thought it would be good to use in a debate.

Either way Sentry was effected by a hug, and a flame. Two thing Thor's wouldn't so much as feel, considering he's stood in the core of the sun and battled Celestials.]

Thor has also killed Hulk before, so your point moot. I also guarantee Hulk wasn't just "hugging" Thor as he was Sentry.

he overloaded Absorbing man

He's never destroyed planets

Breaking someone's wrist isn't top tier

Breaking someone's cosmic axe isn't top tier

Sentry isn't on the Lv of Thor, BRB, Superman, Surfer, etc.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Poor logic. The power contained in Mjolnir, and the energy it's able to absorb are two different things. Also, the energy required to destroy a 5th of the universe far outstrips the power contained by all earths hero's.

Ok, but on panel they were never shown to destroy any planets. On panel feats > comic narration.

Whats funny is that you've most likely never seen Thor get downed by a bullet, just heard it on the forums and thought it would be good to use in a debate.

Either way Sentry was effected by a hug, and a flame. Two thing Thor's wouldn't so much as feel, considering he's stood in the core of the sun and battled Celestials.

Thor has also killed Hulk before, so your point moot. I also guarantee Hulk wasn't just "hugging" Thor as he was Sentry.



Yet he has been hurt by the likes of Thing, Iron man, Ultron and Hyde before non of which could hope to replicate the power of the inner core of a sun. Youre arguement contradicts itself.

Originally posted by db_renji
It just be me, but all this "power of a million exploding suns" Sentry crap is starting to get on my nerves. His character has some potential and though I really don't care deeply for Sentry, I was actually getting into this story....but then here came the "million exploding suns," trash. I mean its just really takes me out of the character. It even sounds like some crack-pot sh*t his creators made up, it doesn't even sound believable, and this is by comic book standards. I don't think writers understand the kind of power that is, I mean if it was one he would still be incredibly powerful, but a million come on, at least try when making a new character. If really was a million, one punch would destroy the planet, he would have no choice but to kill people when he hit them. There is no way to restrain that much power to the level he is. sorry but its just bullshit writing. That is so true, I am glad somebody has finally brought that issue up. The Sentry has potential but Marvel has done absolutely nothing with him. I am still waiting for the Sentry to do something interesting.

eh? there's no way for sentry to restrain his power of 1,000,000 suns, but it makes total sense that he HAS the power of 1,000,000 exploding suns?

why are people picking on stupid crap like that?