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Who wins..? The powerfull orc warchief from warcraft vs Link from the game: "Zelda"?

I think Thrall wins..He's stronger, he's a shamman and can make thunder, I know Link is powerfull but I think Thrall wins anyway.

S-P-I-T-E. what does that spell? Spite. As in, spite thread.

Meh, The Link from Zelda II could take on Thrall. This Link has a something called Thunder Spell, and Reflect Spell. The Thunder spell kills all the enemies around Link instantly, and the Reflect Spell does exactly what it's name says. Link also has the Green Holy Ring from the Oracle Games, which negates all damage from electricity, but he won't be needing it really.

Oh wait, did you mean the Link from Zelda? Or the Zelda games? Whoops :P

Originally posted by Light Warrior
Who wins..? The powerfull orc warchief from warcraft vs Link from the game: "Zelda"?

I think Thrall wins..He's stronger, he's a shamman and can make thunder, I know Link is powerfull but I think Thrall wins anyway.

S-P-I-T-E. TP said it already but this seems more like a spite theard.

hmnmmm a difficult one, i think after a long period of time Link would eventually win but Thrall has some pretty strong powers but isnt exactley one of world of warcrafts most powerful characters

however if he is able to get close, the little dude goes down fast

Why do people give link all his abilities during versus?

i dunno, the thread starter didnt really state any powers, he just says Link....hmm...i think Link with just his sword and shield with simple spells would be pwned easily but when Fairies, Masks and all that shit come into it, Thrall would perhaps die...but Warcraft characters have a lot of power within them that doesnt show often, like superman, he looks like a normal man walking along out of his Superman outfit but then he can punch meteors away

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Why do people give link all his abilities during versus?

Not all the time, I just used the Link from Zelda II. I added an item from the Oracle games, but he doesn't need it anyway.

I think people give Link all his items, to give him the best chance of winning.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Why do people give link all his abilities during versus?

Becuase Link isn't so different per game, we assume he would be able to use each power from each game, but i know where your coming from.

Personnally i think Link, Ganondorf is more powerful than Thrall

the only reason Thrall couldnt beat Ganondorf is the crappy.."only master sword can hurt him", or the "only the light arrows" sort of crap that automatically makes him invulnerable, without them, Ganon would have a hard time thats for sure, Thrall can summon giant spirit wolves, call thunder and lightning, cause earthquakes that split the earth

and thats not taking into account the power of his magic hammer, simply hitting the ground with anger caused it to split and crack under its weight, he has several attacks in world of warcraft but since ime a Horde player ime not 100% sure of what he can do in that

also if you can give link items and such, surely Thrall can have Warcraft items given to him

Here's a radical suggestion. Just once maybe, the two fighters can use each other's weapons.

I could see it now. Thrall using the Master Sword like a dagger, and Link unable to pick up the hammer. And thrall would use the gauntlets to just crush Link.

.... and then Hanson comes and destroys Hyrule and Ogrimmar.

You know what would be a better fight? Hanson vs. Vanilla Ice... but alas, there is no forum for such powerhouse battles... sigh.

who is Hanson?

i doubt hed take orgrimmar, not with all the players in there that would pwn him

Hanson is my running gag. See Gannondorf vs. Sephiroth to see whre it all began.

Originally posted by Burning thought
the only reason Thrall couldnt beat Ganondorf is the crappy.."only master sword can hurt him", or the "only the light arrows" sort of crap that automatically makes him invulnerable, without them, Ganon would have a hard time thats for sure, Thrall can summon giant spirit wolves, call thunder and lightning, cause earthquakes that split the earth

and thats not taking into account the power of his magic hammer, simply hitting the ground with anger caused it to split and crack under its weight, he has several attacks in world of warcraft but since ime a Horde player ime not 100% sure of what he can do in that

also if you can give link items and such, surely Thrall can have Warcraft items given to him

No, because those items aren't canonically given to him, Link's are.


And from what I've seen, Thrall can't really do much impressive. His best attempt at Mannaroth was....... tossing his hammer!

so you think the fact that the incrdible Hulks best attempts at basically anything is punching means its weak or pointless? a single hulk punch would probably be so forceful, it would smash his sword, shield and link would explode

Thralls strength isnt Hulks (well...no measurment can say its not or it is) but if hes strong enough to make a massive dent in the ground with a MAGIC hammer, then it makes a diffrence, we dont really know what force that hammer hit Mannaroth with either nor what powers the Hammer has

and what do you mean not given to him, it wouldnt take him much to go get them for this fight

Uh, what? Link has parried countless of strikes, like the ones from Ganon in OOT, he has huge swords which he strikes fast and hard as hell, doesn't budge Link much. And Grom could strike right through Mannaroth, Thrall could barley scratch him! If tossing his hammer is his best attempt, he ain't gonna get Link. Thrall also needed to load up his hammer to do it, he got an arrow in his head at that time.
(As I said, there is nothing that indicates it is to hard for Link to parry, he just puts his shield up and takes the strike with that, he might grind a bit, but that's about it, unless you got something that proves otherwise)


And since when have I said the Hulk's punches are weak? He can ****ing thrash tanks and buildings with his strikes, and lift several million tons. Thrall doesn't even compare to the Hulk!


And listen, the items in WC are not canonically given to Thrall (unless it is specified by the author of this thread here), so he cannot just get it. It's like giving Link the triforce because it exists in the game and can be aquired by the one who touches it! So if we're going by those rules, Link has already won!

what proof do you have that Thralls hammer couldnt smash through Link and his shield in one strike, Ganon isnt like Mannoroth, without the crappy "Ganon cannot be defeated by anything other than light arrows" or other such nonsense Mannaroth could probably cleave through both Link and Ganon at the same time

all he has to do is chase down link and crush him...done...unless link uses one of his invulnerability masks or the giant one then Thrall loses, Hellscream would probably be better matchup..or Uther lightbringer or whatever his name is...

It's also hard to judge Link's strengths and abilities in comparison to Thrall. Since specifics aren't given. Hell for all we know, the author of this thread might have meant a horse race, then in which case Link wins, because Thrall doesn't own a horse (to our knowledge). Or maybe a Human-eating contest. (which I think would go to Link as well, based on nothing we've seen from him.)

However here's how I see things... in over-generalized statistics

Raw strength (i.e. no enhancements) = Thrall... easy.
Agility = Link, without question
Intelligence = Hard to measure, but I assume that Thrall can speak Common and Orc, and leads the Orcs (more or less). Where Link does show some cunning, I think Thrall is more intelligent than Link.
Endurance = I think both can last a long time, but as far as phyical punishment goes, I think Thrall can handle pain better than Link.
Abilities = Thrall has a few powerful abilities whereas Link has many minor abilities. I think Link has a few more choices in his arsenal.

The thing that I think will really determine the battle are tactics.

I imagine that Thrall will just do what orcs do best and use concentrated though effectively powerful brute force attacks where Link will certainly use the flighty more sort of hit-and-back-off technique. It's pretty tough to say for sure, but I imagine that Thrall would get the upperhand.

My vote is Thrall 6/10.

yeh for a percentage id say thrall would win 6/10 or 7/10 most of the time...his a cunning, musculer magic user

Originally posted by Burning thought
what proof do you have that Thralls hammer couldnt smash through Link and his shield in one strike, Ganon isnt like Mannoroth, without the crappy "Ganon cannot be defeated by anything other than light arrows" or other such nonsense Mannaroth could probably cleave through both Link and Ganon at the same time

all he has to do is chase down link and crush him...done...unless link uses one of his invulnerability masks or the giant one then Thrall loses, Hellscream would probably be better matchup..or Uther lightbringer or whatever his name is...


WTH has Ganon's "crappy" durability with the power of his strikes to do? Could people please stop whining because they got owned in that thread! Thank you.


Now you better prove how it is gonna break through, cause Link's shields has pretty much withstanded things on that level, I don't see what is so special about Thrall's hammer more than a hard toss....


If this is Link in any Zelda, not everyone at once, but like OOT or MM, he wins easily. If this is in the normal Zelda I lack much knowledge about him. Most Link's would probably beat him down.
So this is what I need, info about which Link it is.

Everyone seems to think that the all-might shield is a save-all can't-hurt-me kind of thing. A shield can be broken, or if you guys are all Mirror Shield this and Mirror shield that... It's theoretically possible that it can be disarmed. A lot of people don't think so because they don't realize that heroes and enmies alike are dynamic characters who if it were reality could adapt to the situations of thier opponents.

I seriously don't think that Thrall who is by many respects a revered and war-tested warrior would not be so inpt as to find away around a defense. It may take some time, but I think Thrall isn't above elf-handling Link and then defeating him. Just as I'm sure Link isn't above cramming a bomb or something in Thrall's mouth if he could.

It may not be likely, but it isn't impossible. I'm sure with Thrall's superior strength it is likely he could knock Link's shield arm away even for a moment or two, or knock him off balance by cracking the ground underneath Link for an advantage. Thrall is smart enough to use whatever advantage he could use.

Thrall I think just has the upper-hand in most cases, and I don't even like him 1/10th as much as I do Link.

I'm not saying his shield is unbreakable, however, seeing as he has withstood countless of things that are seemingly on par with the toss that Thrall did against Mannaroth, it is not enough for me to belive that one of those strikes would harm Link in any way.

Link can shoot swords out of his own sword, all he needs to do is let out a single strike which will send a sword flying straight at Thrall, and even if Thrall might be able to dodge that in a way, he will have to do it 24/7, since all Link needs to do is to keep striking and swords will fly all the time.
And this is just if it is the first Zelda Link, if it is the others, I don't see how Thrall stands a CHANCE!


Ok, I'm gonna do one of those comparisons as well...


Strenght: Ok, Thrall has shown what in strenght? He's an orc, which are naturally strong, that's about it. Link has power braclets which allows him to carry heavy weights. I could see it as a stalemate. And this is only if this is just once again the Link form the first Zelda game. But this contest isn't gonna rely much on strenght anyway....


Durability: What has Thrall shown here really? Link, although gameplay, increases his hearts every time, so although I'm not gonna use hearts as an argument, I'm gonna say that his durability continousley increases throughout the game, and he has shown himself very durable, actually, he has to be considering all the things he's been through. I could see Link take this.


Intelligence. Hmm, seeing as Thrall is a far seer, who specialises in intelligence categorys, I see him win this. Link is no dumbass though, getting through all the traps in the tempels, but that's not nearly enough.


Agility. Link, after all, Thrall rides around on a wolf, cannot move around much, and if he dismounts, I still don't see him getting near Link in this category.



To me, Link wins in most if not all the physical aspects. His arsenal is above Thrall's by far, he has a shield for protection, his sword can be used as a range weapon since he can fire other swords out of it or he can use a bow. Thrall has nothing for protection, and in a melee fight, his hammer can only be used offensivley, it cannot be used like a sword, it's sorley purpose is to kill. Link is to versetile for Thrall to handle.
And once again, this is only if it is the first Zelda Link. Please specifi....

I'm starting to agree that the author of this thread (like many authors) neds to be a little more specific when we talk about Link, since there there are multiple incarnations of Link.

Yup. ^

It could be possible he actually meant Link from Encino Man, but then I think the thread would be closed because no one in their right mind likes Brendan Fraiser.

LOL!

You're okay man, questions. First, how do I buddy you? (Since I am admittedly a newb. <Not to be confused with n00b, ja n00bs who read this and make a reply without proper grammar, no sense of punctuation, and/or an extremely loose grip on the concept of spelling&gt

Second, how can I get a groovy signiture?

First, thanks. Well you just go into "User CP" and then go into buddy list I belive.

Second, you go into the same, and then profile I think, then you click on the "customise sig" or something like that, you add a picture (though you'll probably have to fix the size and all that), and then you copy the text that comes when you've added it, and add it in the sig profile. Lol! Kinda hard to get. ^

w00t.

Originally posted by kamikz


Durability: What has Thrall shown here really? Link, although gameplay, increases his hearts every time, so although I'm not gonna use hearts as an argument, I'm gonna say that his durability continousley increases throughout the game, and he has shown himself very durable, actually, he has to be considering all the things he's been through. I could see Link take this.





i doubt Link wins this, what do you mean Thrall hasnt shown much....he survived Mannaroths enormous Demon blade and being sent half a mile into a cliff side, not to mention when Mannaroth dies he lets forth an explosion of hellish fire that would burn link to a crisp, wheras Thrall survives, and hellscreams body doesnt get burnt

You guys are aware that even if his sheild doesn't break. The impact that thrall hits him with would send him flying a few meters back?

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
You guys are aware that even if his sheild doesn't break. The impact that thrall hits him with would send him flying a few meters back?

exactley, i dont think the little guy would stand a chance really, every hit would send him flying, the Doomhammer is not an ordinairy hammer, through all what Thralls been through i doubt hell be defeaten by Link

Originally posted by Burning thought
exactley, i dont think the little guy would stand a chance really, every hit would send him flying, the Doomhammer is not an ordinairy hammer, through all what Thralls been through i doubt hell be defeaten by Link

I disagree, links versatility makes him deadly. If pure brute strength was enough, he would have lost a long time ago. I dunno what thrall can do, But, link has alot of options like: moves that can stun thrall while he chips away at his life. If thrall swings the hammer, link can get out of the way or sheild him self with nayru's love, or attack, lond distance with proojectiles that can burn,stun, and freeze thrall.

Thrall can cause Earthquakes, call lightning that can fry link, Summon a pair of giant wolves that are even bigger than thrall himself, and Thrall is enormous really, Link isnt very large, especially in build, he would find it difficult to didge Thralls hammer considering its quite enormous and the fact Thrall isnt slow...although he doesnt jump and roll and such like link probably does, he can run quite fast, or he has his Wolf mount to chase link down on

Originally posted by Burning thought
Thrall can cause Earthquakes, call lightning that can fry link, Summon a pair of giant wolves that are even bigger than thrall himself, and Thrall is enormous really, Link isnt very large, especially in build, he would find it difficult to didge Thralls hammer considering its quite enormous and the fact Thrall isnt slow...although he doesnt jump and roll and such like link probably does, he can run quite fast, or he has his Wolf mount to chase link down on

LOL, what's stopping linking from killing the wolves and sheilding himself with nayru's love against lighting. Also, link can hit thrall from virtually every range and stun him. An argument concerning size doesn't mean much against a guy who takes down gaints, and one hammer vs Bow & arrows ,Sword & sheild, Hookshoot, bombs and bombchu's (That can target thrall), Arrows that can freexe and burn him, Teleportation,a force feild that's invulnerable,etc. Doesn't mean much to me, and earthquakes what would tht do, lol.

Link from Encino Man can't do any of that crap! LOL

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
LOL, what's stopping linking from killing the wolves and sheilding himself with nayru's love against lighting. Also, link can hit thrall from virtually every range and stun him. An argument concerning size doesn't mean much against a guy who takes down gaints, and one hammer vs Bow & arrows ,Sword & sheild, Hookshoot, bombs and bombchu's (That can target thrall), Arrows that can freexe and burn him, Teleportation,a force feild that's invulnerable,etc. Doesn't mean much to me, and earthquakes what would tht do, lol.

the Earthquake would split the ground and swallow link :P hell just start setting up all his little devices and then BOOM!!!, the ground opens and he falls miles under into a lava pool....owned

and his Wolves are normal, their spirit wolves, almost invulnerable since their like ghosts, hence spirit.....the only way Link can win is if he starts off from a long range and shoots thrall OR he uses one of his invulnerability cheapneses......i think Thrall should be allowed some pots for this fight, and engineering devices of his own, but then their not actually given to him in-game

Originally posted by Burning thought
the Earthquake would split the ground and swallow link :P hell just start setting up all his little devices and then BOOM!!!, the ground opens and he falls miles under into a lava pool....owned


I don't see why link can move away as the cracks emerge, and hoverboots can keep him from falling

EDIT: Or he can teleport with farue's wind, or use the hookshot to get back up.

Originally posted by Burning thought

and his Wolves are normal, their spirit wolves, almost invulnerable since their like ghosts, hence spirit.....
Link kills ghost all the time, especially with the master sword.

Originally posted by Burning thought

the only way Link can win is if he starts off from a long range and shoots thrall OR he uses one of his invulnerability cheapneses......i think Thrall should be allowed some pots for this fight, and engineering devices of his own, but then their not actually given to him in-game

If there not given to him in game, than it's out of the question.

hell fall down there when a Hammer comes and smashes him in the head, then hes knocked out and falls into the abyss.....or gets electrocuted, i doubt that wand of teleportation has infinate charges so hell prob use it a few times as all the ground around him falls away and sunders and erupts then it runs out and he falls

or hell be hit by a thunder bolt as hes trying to escape or jumped by ghostly wolves that Thrall will keep summoning

or if were taking some sense into it, Thral would also have the abilities of lesser shamans, which include powers which will take away Links buffs and slowing him to a crawl to be at the Mercy of thralls hammer OR he could call lighting shields around him that will fry link if he gets too close

Originally posted by Burning thought
i doubt Link wins this, what do you mean Thrall hasnt shown much....he survived Mannaroths enormous Demon blade and being sent half a mile into a cliff side, not to mention when Mannaroth dies he lets forth an explosion of hellish fire that would burn link to a crisp, wheras Thrall survives, and hellscreams body doesnt get burnt

(Since the first post said "Zelda" I'm only gonna argue Link from the first Zelda)


He didn't even get hit by Mannaroth, he hit beside him and the shockwave made him fly away into that cliff, he even fainted for a long time. And the fire didn't even reach him, there is no sign that he was hit at all. Hellscream died by that fire, wtf do you mean "doesn't even get burned", he died! And I guess you missed some parts in Zelda where a huge wave of fire is blocking the way, and if you have the best shield you can walk through it.



And comon, if Thrall is gonna try tossing his hammer, he will have 3 flying swords in his head while he's reloading, and as said before, he's gonna block it just like he blocks everything else with his MAGIC shield.
Link has the star rod that will turn Thrall on fire before he even moves, plus fairies and potions and all other stuff.

Yeah, Thrall is gonna make those earthquakes who have no effect whatsoever on people, only buildings. He's gonna use it like he did at the area around Mannaroth right? Or the wolves, wow, Link has never faced such beings before. And the lightning, man, that can almost kill someone, almost. Link has parried magic before with his shield, and with rings he can aquire, he can lower damage to 1/4 of it's power, which will..... make the lightning feel like a little shock only.


Face it, Thrall is outnumbered. Instead of saying all the things Thrall can do, we have all reached the conclusion that Link is faster, shouldn't he be the one attacking quicklier? And after all, Link does have a defence, Thrall does not. A single attack would be fatal when sent to Thrall, whereas an attack from Thrall would be neutralized by Link!

....the shockwave alone is stronger than links blows......and besides WTF do you mean only harms buildings....its an Earthquake ffs, simple as....or is your little link going to parry an earthquake like he apparently can parry anything, thralls hammer will 1 hit link and he will go flying, unless link somehow dodges this enormous hammer which is about the size of him..his precious shield will fall bakc on him and crush him from the force of Thralls hammer.....

and Thrall has the lightning shield protection...will electrcute link if he touches him with a sword..or purge him making the effects of magic on him useless so his fairies wouldnt be able to do anything or his magic items

WTF? A shockwave cannot kill you, at least not one of that calibur, a sword can. That's just bull.

And it's only a small earthquake, and it doesn't do much effect on units as shown in the game, and it only causes a MINOR quake, like some meters. Nothing Link cannot handle.

Ugh... "A hammer the size of him"? WTF. So that would mean Thrall is about 10 times his size, since he holds the Hammer in his hands easily? Please, the Hammer is not as big as Link, and besides, Link's shield is as big as him, and it's made of magic AND it has parried THINGS LIKE THAT. And you're arguing like Thrall is constantly putting the attacks, ignoring my points much?


And since when did Thrall have lightning shield? And it won't protect very much anyway, there are just some bolts around him, they are just meant to attack melee attackers when they launch an attack, and that ain't gonna help him against flying swords in his head!

Ok, this happends:

In a arena.


Thrall walks in. He see link standing there with he's blade in the hand.
Thrall throws he's hammer. it's thunder on it.
Link parrys and fall on the ground. Thrall screms and thunder fall down from heaven link ignore it and screms with the blade pointed at the air.
Thrall screms and runs to link with thunder in he's hands. Thrall hits link with thunder and link cuths the blade in thralls skin. Link fell to the ground hard. Thrall breath hard, and is bleeding hard. A bith of hes armor if broken. Link lays on the flor and can hardly breath. Thrall walks slowly to he's hammer and lifts it up. Link jumps up. Both enemys looks at eachother. They run again to atack. Thrall raises he's thundering hammer and when he gets close he bashes Link with all he's strenght. Link try do dodge but the hammer hits he's head and he fall on the ground...Dead. Thrall is tired and damaged. He heals himself and walk away from the arena.


That happends. Thrall gets badly hurt but we wins the battle. Both are really powerfull but I think Thrall can defeat him.

I mean, They cant take all damage..I mean Link dies because he get a heavy hammer and thunder in he's head!...Who can survive that?
And dont complain..Because Thrall gets deadly damaged, He's a Shamman, he heals himself after the battle, if he could not, he would die...

That's YOUR opinion, but that is definently not what happens according to me! Link didn't even use anything that he could have used in that battle!


I can do one as well.


Link and Thrall face eachother. Thrall let's out a roar and hits his hammer in the ground, and it starts to shake with power. Link points the star rod at him and he burns to crisps....

Originally posted by kamikz
That's YOUR opinion, but that is definently not what happens according to me! Link didn't even use anything that he could have used in that battle!


I can do one as well.


Link and Thrall face eachother. Thrall let's out a roar and hits his hammer in the ground, and it starts to shake with power. Link points the star rod at him and he burns to crisps....

Yeah, sure.... You think Thrall suck?

which link is fighting thrall?

Maybe Link wins, but not so easy... trust me, the one who wins gets deadly damaged.

Originally posted by Hoshi
which link is fighting thrall?

Zelda Link..

huh?? i mean , which zelda game

I mean just..Link..When he is most powerfull.. The same thing with Thrall

You fail ^
Originally posted by Light Warrior
Yeah, sure.... You think Thrall suck? From what I've heard, Thrall sucks balls

Originally posted by IceJaw
You fail ^
From what I've heard, Thrall sucks balls

O'rly?

Okay, this is real..In the game both of them takes a lot damage, if it would be a game. Link would own Thrall, yes. But I mean real!

EDIT: Use edit!
EDIT 2:
Originally posted by Light Warrior
O'rly?
Good God, is that all you've got?

Originally posted by IceJaw
EDIT: Use edit!

Good God, is that all you've got?

Look, Thrall is like 3 sizes biger and stronger than link, I said: if it's in the game Link would own thrall, but I mean real, Than Thrall is a big orc with REAL thunder, a REAL hammer that is almost bigger than link, It's like me vs Big foot

Thrall crushes Link.....dead

Originally posted by Burning thought
Thrall crushes Link.....dead

------->INDEED<------

And you think actually think someone takes you seriously when you're biased and posts like a complete newb while using a crapy ass WC3 sig and avatar.
Originally posted by Light Warrior
Look, Thrall is like 3 sizes biger and stronger than link, I said: if it's in the game Link would own thrall, but I mean real, Than Thrall is a big orc with REAL thunder, a REAL hammer that is almost bigger than link, It's like me vs Big foot
Your knowledge about Link is clearly lacking.

Okay, I mean in real world, just wondering how you think: can link parry
Thralls rage when he swing hes thundering hammer with Mighty strengt..? if you think Link would win in real world than you think you cant survive a bullet in you're head. In game Link gots a lot moore spells and power than Thrall. But in real world.. Link is tiny and weak but he is fast, while Thrall is big and strong and got fat skinn and fat armor.... He would crush Link like I would crush a 5 years old kid...

Ok, so we have established that this is Link at the top of his game.... vs Thrall.


Ok, Link puts on giants mask and steps on Thrall. The End! (Link will be revived over 4 times because of fairies)
Link makes himself invulnerable and kills Thrall. The End! (Link will be revived over 4 times because of fairies)
Link clones himself into 4 different Link's. The End! (Link will be revived over 4 times because of fairies)


Want more scenarios?

Real world? You fail, the 'real' world in your perspective would strip down Link of his skills and such and not Thall's, that some great effing baised bullshit!

Okay, my honest opinion is that you see this kind of match all the time, the large brute vs the agile hero. The hero always wins. Plus which thrall are you using? in WarCraft III his powers are, chain lighining, spirit wolves, far sight, earthquake. But if your using the WoW version, Link may well get stomped, considering his powers are of a larger range and greater power.

Anyway, enough babble, Link would cream Thrall, he's killed the kind of creautres that legions of orcs and shamans have died against, dragons, giants, demons etc Considering your boasts on thralls power, which is bull, i'm a hardcore WC player, and thralls not as powerful as your making him out to be. Link would still beat Thrall quite comfortably.

What i said earlier, Ganondorf actual power, is stronger than thralls, so it makes sense Link can beat Thrall

If you want to use the warcraft universe may i suggest:

Link vs Terron Gornfiend

Link has the skill, Teron has the power, only alot more of it than Ganondorf.... Infact i'm making a thread

Okay Kamikz, you underestimate Thrall...You think Thrall just stands and look while Link atack him..? Orcs always atacks first and you cant say good always win over evil that's not true....... In game Link win but if you bring them here to the world and make them realative. Than Thrall is bigger and stronger and I know Link is strong and have defeated dark lords, ( IN THE GAME)..Thrall wins and stop whining.

LOL! Ok seriousley, stop the "real world" bitching, there ain't nothing logical about that, Link would still have his equipment and skills in "the real world". So STFU!


Secondly, Link is faster, and as said before, Link would easily deflect his attacks. Maybe it would help if you stopped being a fanboy and actually knew ANYTHING about Link.

if you throw both of them in real world , and magic is considered something real , links power would be even greater.Golden bracelets that is said to increase the users strengh a lot , in the games the only thing it does is help you to lift rocks, but in real world (OR at LEAST IN REAL LOGIC) it would turn link into a monster .Link would be able to use more than one mask at once , like the bunny hood and the goron mask .Or the bunny hood and the giant mask , since the bunny hood is like a tiara , and the giant mask is like jason mask.He could teleport himself if he is in trouble or even summon the four giants to fight.These things cant be used in the games , but link IS able to do it , he doesnt beacause it would be extremly easy to beat the game .Of course thrall is a hell strong guy , he would probaly kill link 2 times (link can be revived)

Originally posted by Light Warrior
Okay Kamikz, you underestimate Thrall...You think Thrall just stands and look while Link atack him..? Orcs always atacks first and you cant say good always win over evil that's not true....... In game Link win but if you bring them here to the world and make them realative. Than Thrall is bigger and stronger and I know Link is strong and have defeated dark lords, ( IN THE GAME)..Thrall wins and stop whining.
You fail, you really need to learn what stuff that matters and you seem to have to forgotten that Thrall IS ALSO FROM A GAME. You logic isn't logic it's just completly messed up biased bullshit.

Oh, before I forget, get your head out of your biased ass!

Everyone knows you're biased, heck, even my julmust knows that.

Okay....You dont see what I mean. That's the problem, I said in the game: if you move link to wc3, than he would win. I mean if they fight realative. Like a knight fight a knight. And they use magic of course. I say Thrall wins you dont need to say bad stuffs about me just because you dont see what i mean.

If they fight like that, I would still say Link. He has magics like nayrus love and magic armour, which makes him invinsible. He has reflect spell, which does exactly what it sounds like! And in melee, he is a god!

Maybe he wins, but not so easy.

Uhh yes he does, you fail.

How the heck is a orc supposed to kill a invinsible fairy teenager who happens to be equiped with shitloads of items, spells and weapons?!?!

Shammans can detect invisibility. And he is the mightiest living Shamman in Warcraft.

Originally posted by kamikz
And in melee, he is a god!
Link is seriously overrated in melee, his attacks are bland and uncreative, he only has skilll because the player does

Originally posted by Light Warrior
he is the mightiest living Shamman in Warcraft.
No he's not, lol

Originally posted by Light Warrior
Shammans can detect invisibility. And he is the mightiest living Shamman in Warcraft.
You fail.

Invisibility = Not being visible

InviNsibility = CAN'T GET HURT!

Ok, than who is the mightiest living shamman in warcraft..?

Originally posted by IceJaw
You fail.

Invisibility = Not being visible

InviNsibility = CAN'T GET HURT!

Thrall can heal himself.

If he would loose his head, would he be able to grow it back?

I'm talking to deaf ears, you fail.

Originally posted by IceJaw
I'm talking to deaf ears, you fail.

I fail?

Originally posted by Mesirus
Link is seriously overrated in melee, his attacks are bland and uncreative, he only has skilll because the player does


No he's not, lol


OVERRATED?? Seriousley, I think I'm the only one on this forum who considers him good! I remember debating my ass of in the old days when everyone replied "he just swings his sword as hard as he can". He is damn good, the god thing was a joke, but he is damn good!

You just noticed?

Originally posted by IceJaw
You just noticed?


What do I fail with..?

Originally posted by Light Warrior
Ok, than who is the mightiest living shamman in warcraft..? Cairne Bloodhoof, older, wiser, bigger... just better, of course its debatable, but in the games Cairne was more useful

Originally posted by Mesirus
Cairne Bloodhoof, older, wiser, bigger... just better, of course its debatable, but in the games Cairne was more useful

He got warrior spells....

Originally posted by Light Warrior
What do I fail with..? English grammar and spelling, forums, debating and probably other stuff.

Originally posted by IceJaw
English grammar and spelling, forums, debating and probably other stuff.

Oh really?

anyone who has to result to insults has failed...utterly...no need to argue about it...Ice jaw loses and Kamikz is closely losing it

Thrall would lose but not easily, he is more powerful than people give him credit, he has super strength, his fast, intelligent, has enormous endurance, an orc could easily take a truck at 100 mph into the chest and live witohut worrything too much, and thats if he doesnt throw it over

also Grom hellscream DID not burn in mannaroths fire....he didnt disintergrate, which suggests Orcs are extremely resistent to fire and so Links fire attacks are usless unless you can prove otherwise, also dont automatically presume Thrall is a big guy...hes gotta be slow, hes alot faster than you think, he can move instantly at extreme charge speed which would surprise link before he is smashed by Thralls strenth

and wtf all this parry nonsense, you think Links shiled is an indestructable wall? even if it was the force hit by Thrall would send link flying, and i doubt all Links masks work constantly without losng charge, otherwise the games would be easy once you got them, also link may not have the time to put on each mask before Thrall sends a hammer in his skull, and Thrall needs to load up nothing....he just throws his hammer...its fast..deal with it, link Koed

Also Thrall can see invisiblilty, hence his title, Far seer, its one of his powers, he can see invisbility also cause Earthquakes and summon spirit dogs, hows Link gonna protect himself with his shield, stop himself from being swallowed by the ground itself when it opens from the earthquake, put a mask on, AND protect from a chain lightning effect which would blast him away......

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/7587/orlyyarlyql1.gif
http://116.photobucket.com/albums/b36/Advent_Nebula/fail.gif

Litsen to Burning thought.

The only thing that keeps Thrall going now is your opinion, not gonna try to change that, but the facts says otherwise!

Originally posted by Light Warrior
Litsen to Burning thought. Nah, he's on my ignore list doped

And it's listen.

Originally posted by Light Warrior
He got warrior spells....

True, in the game he is Tauren chieften, But thats a role not a class, his class is shaman, go up against him in WoW and see what i mean

Originally posted by IceJaw
Nah, he's on my ignore list doped

And it's listen.

You are on my ignore list soon mate.

Originally posted by Mesirus
True, in the game he is Tauren chieften, But thats a role not a class, his class is shaman, go up against him in WoW and see what i mean

I cant I have taken a loong brake with wow

What part of "use the edit button" don't you understand?!
Originally posted by Light Warrior
You are on my ignore list soon mate.

For what?

After posting such rubbish you should expect a spanking from daddy later.

Originally posted by IceJaw
For what?

After posting such rubbish you should expect a spanking from daddy later.

For what..? Because all I here from you is insults and lies.

Originally posted by IceJaw
After posting rubbish you should expect a spanking from daddy later.

Originally posted by IceJaw


You see?

Originally posted by Light Warrior
You see?
You clearly don't understand what I meant.

You get bashed for posting such biased bullshit. If you can't come with a somewhat smart response then don't post.

haha You are whining

Originally posted by IceJaw
You clearly don't understand what I meant.

You will probably get bashed to death if you've posted biased bullshit.

If this is such an bullshit topic..Than why have you posted like hell?

Ok, I just snapped at that post. Sorry burning thought, but I got really pissed!

Originally posted by kamikz
Ok, I just snapped at that post. Sorry burning thought, but I got really pissed!

You can atleast say the word: "Im sorry"

But IceJaw that is crying in hes bed right now cant.

Originally posted by kamikz
Ok, I just snapped at that post. !!!!!!SORRY!!!! burning thought, but I got really pissed!




..... Read next time!

You are the one that cant read because ive postet like 100 times what I mean but you still dont see what i mean.

What you say doesn't make any sense, so shush.
Originally posted by Light Warrior
If this is such an bullshit topic..Than why have you posted like hell? Says you

Get your head out of your ass and if anyone's crying, it's clearly you, probably so bad you can't see what rubbish you're posting.

@ Light warrior! : Ignorant fool! You said "You could at least say the words "I'm sorry". However, I had already SAID Sorry, learn to read.


And you have just stated your opinion, no facts, no proof, your opinion. Your opinion = Not enough!

Originally posted by IceJaw
What you say doesn't make any sense, so shush.
Says you

Get your head out of your ass and if anyone's crying, it's clearly you, probably so bad you can't what rubbish you're posting.

aaaw, so cute! He is calling for he's grandpa!

Could you please make some sense?
Originally posted by kamikz
@ Light warrior! : Ignorant fool! You said "You could at least say the words "I'm sorry". However, I had already SAID Sorry, learn to read.


And you have just stated your opinion, no facts, no proof, your opinion. Your opinion = Not enough!

Exactly

Facts > Opinions

Originally posted by Light Warrior
aaaw, so cute! He is calling for he's grandpa!



Doesn't make sense. Actually, has anything you've said made sense?

Originally posted by kamikz
@ Light warrior! : Ignorant fool! You said "You could at least say the words "I'm sorry". However, I had already SAID Sorry, learn to read.


And you have just stated your opinion, no facts, no proof, your opinion. Your opinion = Not enough!


Dude, what's you're problem?

You?

Originally posted by kamikz
Doesn't make sense. Actually, has anything you've said made sense?

Yes, as much like you

hysterical

Originally posted by Light Warrior
Dude, what's you're problem?



Third time I'm gonna say this. LEARN TO READ!
Please tell me exactly what didn't make sense there! Do tell!

Originally posted by kamikz
Third time I'm gonna say this. LEARN TO READ!
Please tell me exactly what didn't make sense there! Do tell!








Third time I'm gonna say this. LEARN TO READ!
Please tell me exactly what didn't make sense there! Do tell!

Originally posted by IceJaw
hysterical

I'm taking you on my ignore list now.

I'm gonna tell you your problem Light Warrior. You don't refute ANY of the points stated, you reply with a simple "Hard battle but Thrall wins" then rely on other peoples arguments to make your point go through. You haven't said anything that mattered in this thread, and you keep trolling!


If you reply with anything that does not refute the points I've made now, you've have utterly lost!


And stop acting like a child!

Wow, complete failure.

Okay, just going to point thing out....

Originally posted by kamikz
And come the **** on, Grom DIED because of the fire. He didn't get burned, but he died? Then the fire still killed him, and that's it! It doesn't nearly suggest that orcs are "resistant to fire". Gosh.......



LOL! Since when did Thrall burst at such high speed? I remember him being outspeeded by big, fat, ugly Mannaroth! And why the hell would he use a mount if he was so damn fast?


Hmm, that fire is a mystery, it could go two ways:

1. they simply couldn't afford or didn't want to turn grom all carred, and the fact is he did get toasted.

2. The fire was mystical, so grom died in affect

i have never seen evidence to suggest orcs are resistant againt fire though, ever.


Mannoroth is a huge demon, ugly, god yes, and fat, not its his build. Keep in mind Mannoroth is the size of a double decker bus, he can run pretty quicky when he wants to



Originally posted by Burning thought
anyone who has to result to insults has failed...utterly...no need to argue about it...Ice jaw loses and Kamikz is closely losing it

Thrall would lose but not easily, he is more powerful than people give him credit, he has super strength, his fast, intelligent, has enormous endurance, an orc could easily take a truck at 100 mph into the chest and live witohut worrything too much, and thats if he doesnt throw it over

also Grom hellscream DID not burn in mannaroths fire....he didnt disintergrate, which suggests Orcs are extremely resistent to fire and so Links fire attacks are usless unless you can prove otherwise, also dont automatically presume Thrall is a big guy...hes gotta be slow, hes alot faster than you think, he can move instantly at extreme charge speed which would surprise link before he is smashed by Thralls strenth

and wtf all this parry nonsense, you think Links shiled is an indestructable wall? even if it was the force hit by Thrall would send link flying, and i doubt all Links masks work constantly without losng charge, otherwise the games would be easy once you got them, also link may not have the time to put on each mask before Thrall sends a hammer in his skull, and Thrall needs to load up nothing....he just throws his hammer...its fast..deal with it, link Koed

Also Thrall can see invisiblilty, hence his title, Far seer, its one of his powers, he can see invisbility also cause Earthquakes and summon spirit dogs, hows Link gonna protect himself with his shield, stop himself from being swallowed by the ground itself when it opens from the earthquake, put a mask on, AND protect from a chain lightning effect which would blast him away......

Whos been tampering with your infomation?

Firstly, yes he is underestimated, but your over estimating him. Orc are not very disimilar to human, theres no way they could survive 100mph truck.

Thrall isn't very quick, would you be if you have 150 pounds of armor on?

I always thought mirror shield was enough to reverse even thrall more powerful magic. But i suppose it might be possible to overload it.

Okay, question i must ask because theres something i just don't get, since when did thrall go in combat? he's a spell user, so in combat
Link will outskill him.

Okay, i'm ony going to say this once, in my eyes, heres what each hero needs to worry about

Link

- Thralls wolves, links good, but two bear-like wolves and a heroic shaman..

- Totems - Thrall is a shaman, and in WoW that means totems, small poles which can seriously mess up battle plans

- Healing magic, Shaman have good healing mojo

- Hammer Lobbing, Yeah this could possible kill link if it hits home, but then its no a boomarang, so if thralls throwns it he loos it until he can get it back

Thrall

- Arrows, he has no shield, its that simple

- Agility, Link is faster than thrall and would own him in combat, no questions

- Love, Fire, Love can make link practically immortal, and Fire is tough, could cause some real problems for our young warchief

- Lives, Link has alot of lives, i personnaly can't see him killing Link like, 10 times or however many before Link gets in 1 kill

Originally posted by kamikz
I'm gonna tell you your problem Light Warrior. You don't refute ANY of the points stated, you reply with a simple "Hard battle but Thrall wins" then rely on other peoples arguments to make your point go through. You haven't said anything that mattered in this thread, and you keep trolling!


If you reply with anything that does not refute the points I've made now, you've have utterly lost!


And stop acting like a child!

All I said maked sense. You are saying so just to be rude to me.

And by the way.




quote: (post)
Originally posted by Burning thought
anyone who has to result to insults has failed...utterly...no need to argue about it...Ice jaw loses and Kamikz is closely losing it

Thrall would lose but not easily, he is more powerful than people give him credit, he has super strength, his fast, intelligent, has enormous endurance, an orc could easily take a truck at 100 mph into the chest and live witohut worrything too much, and thats if he doesnt throw it over

also Grom hellscream DID not burn in mannaroths fire....he didnt disintergrate, which suggests Orcs are extremely resistent to fire and so Links fire attacks are usless unless you can prove otherwise, also dont automatically presume Thrall is a big guy...hes gotta be slow, hes alot faster than you think, he can move instantly at extreme charge speed which would surprise link before he is smashed by Thralls strenth

and wtf all this parry nonsense, you think Links shiled is an indestructable wall? even if it was the force hit by Thrall would send link flying, and i doubt all Links masks work constantly without losng charge, otherwise the games would be easy once you got them, also link may not have the time to put on each mask before Thrall sends a hammer in his skull, and Thrall needs to load up nothing....he just throws his hammer...its fast..deal with it, link Koed

Also Thrall can see invisiblilty, hence his title, Far seer, its one of his powers, he can see invisbility also cause Earthquakes and summon spirit dogs, hows Link gonna protect himself with his shield, stop himself from being swallowed by the ground itself when it opens from the earthquake, put a mask on, AND protect from a chain lightning effect which would blast him away......






Not really!


First of all, super strenght? Since when? And prove all that you said. Link got the golden gauntlets for crying out loud, he is stronger than any orc.


And come on, Grom DIED because of the fire. He didn't get burned, but he died? Then the fire still killed him, and that's it! It doesn't nearly suggest that orcs are "resistant to fire". Gosh.......



LOL! Since when did Thrall burst at such high speed? I remember him being outspeeded by big, fat, ugly Mannaroth! And why the hell would he use a mount if he was so damn fast?


FOR heavens SAKE! I HAVE SAID OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVERAND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER that his shield is NOT an indestructible wall, it's just that NOTHING proves that his "ZOmg giant Hammer" is gonna break through. Cause really, Link has never faced anything as deadly as a tossed hammer right? Oh lord..........
Honest to god, you make me so pissed I'm afraid I'm gonna hurt myself!


Who here is acting like a child?

Manoroths death shows us the might of the orcs.

Thrall wins accept the truth!

You are apparently. I was debating, something you probably don't know the meaning of. I snapped, but I stood up like a man and apoligised to him!


And no, you have not made sense ONCE. Now you have lost, as I said before, because you did not reply to my arguments.



@ Mesirius. Yeah, well either way, the fire killed Grom so I don't think we can say that orcs are resistant to fire. (As you said).

And really though, the mirror shield as shown in OOT, when getting much damage on it, absorbs the damage then shoots it back! It can be overloaded maybe, but it would probably shoot back the damage before that!

Stop multiposting

@ Light warrior

http://pierre.salaun10.free.fr/screen/noob=glasgo%20feat.arnold.JPG

Indeed!

Score one for my post count!






"Lol! I made the sense!"

www.owned-noob.com

I am ignoring Icejaw sorry

Eh? ^

You clicked so that you could read this. You fail at ignoring LMAO.

just leave em light Warrior, they cannot debate without moaning and grumbling.....fanboys cannot help but defend their character...no matter how smal his odds are winning, Thrall wins, thread closed


delete it lana if you may with Light Warriors permission it will only clog the thread

Lol!

lol?

Exactly. He is a hypocrit, I don't see where Light Warrior has even DEBATE once, and he himself has made a single point which stood for about 10 seconds, and got beat down in the next 5....

Okay, I think Thrall win and you think Link win..Okay! That's enough. Lets start stop insult eachother!

Topic is soon closed.

Closing this one by request.

And Light Warrior, in the future, do not post multiple times in a row like that. If you have more to say, simply edit your post instead.