Silver Surfer, Thor and Dr. Strange invade DC Earth

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masterbruce
Can they take over DC Earth?

Priest
oh yea

DigiMark007
Yeah. With very little trouble, unless Sentry is way better than he should be.

Stupid Rookie
I hate vs battles against plantets. I mean I just don't know enough to know everyone who is coutned in that. There was recently a Marvel one where people were saying Merlin resides on Earth, as does Roma, and some other beings that I never really think of.

Who is currently on DC earth?

Deathstroke
I have a feeling that DC earth would be able to win.

DigiMark007
Originally posted by DigiMark007
Yeah. With very little trouble, unless Sentry is way better than he should be.

Damn. It says DC.

Nevermind then.

Yeah it would be close.

Madvillain
They stand no chance whatsoever, unless Strange has some sort of prep.

batdude123
DC Earth's heroes kill these three... What the f**k?

Martian_mind
Dc earth.Spectre and felix faust pwn strange,phantom stranger pwns surfer and supe ww mm and Green laantern pwn thor

DigiMark007
Yeah. I thought it was Marvel Earth originally. But DC likely wins this big-time.

...though I enjoyed the old arguments for Surfer being able to take out the entire JLA. That was an amusing battle thread.

roll eyes (sarcastic)

batdude123
Originally posted by DigiMark007
Yeah. I thought it was Marvel Earth originally. But DC likely wins this big-time.

...though I enjoyed the old arguments for Surfer being able to take out the entire JLA. That was an amusing battle thread.

roll eyes (sarcastic)

Christ. sick

Madvillain
Actually, Surfer would give the JLA trouble, depending on the roster because people like Aquaman and Batman don't even factor. And he can get rid of Superman fairly easily.

batdude123
Originally posted by Madvillain
Actually, Surfer would give the JLA trouble, depending on the roster because people like Aquaman and Batman don't even factor. And he can get rid of Superman fairly easily.

THANK YOU, COME AGAIN.

no expression

ExtraMision5555
Originally posted by Madvillain
Actually, Surfer would give the JLA trouble, depending on the roster because people like Aquaman and Batman don't even factor. And he can get rid of Superman fairly easily.

Thiers an argument for how surfer MIGHT give the jla trouble, there is NOT an arguement for how surfer could beat the entire jla.

masterbruce
I apologize but I left out an important fact. The 3 Marvel Invaders get a day of prep in advance. The DC Earth does not, since the invasion is a surprise.

Devil Lance
Black Alice ftw

Martian_mind
The three still get owned

Madvillain
Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
Thiers an argument for how surfer MIGHT give the jla trouble, there is NOT an arguement for how surfer could beat the entire jla.

like i said, it depends on wich JLA roster..

Batman and Aquaman are NON factors. Supes gets killed with Kryptonite...

That leaves Wonder Woman, Hal and Flash...honestly I don't see how Wonder Woman is even a threat to Surfer. He'd just trap her in his board.

Hal? Well Quasar with full body armor was nothing more than a nuisance to a bloodlusted surfer....

Flash would get manipulated or placed in a construct.

Its feasible..very feasible.

Priest
Originally posted by DigiMark007
Damn. It says DC.

Nevermind then.

Yeah it would be close.
holy crap i thought the same exact thing too embarrasment

batdude123
Originally posted by Madvillain
Supes gets killed with kryptonite.

FACT: Kryptonite hardly works on Superman nowadays. His body has built up a solid immunity to the radiation of it.

Surfer is NOT taking Superman out of the fight easily. That much is certain.

Originally posted by Madvillain
That leaves Wonder Woman, Hal and Flash...honestly I don't see how Wonder Woman is even a threat to Surfer. He'd just trap her in his board.

You're forgetting J'onn. J'onn, Wonder Woman, Flash, Superman, and KYLE would be facing Norrin.

They'd kick his ass w/o too much trouble 10/10.

Originally posted by Madvillain
Hal? Well Quasar with full body armor was nothing more than a nuisance to a bloodlusted surfer....

laughing out loud

Kyle alone gives Surfer a good fight, one in which Kyle could possibly take the slight majority. Add in Supes, WW, J'onn, and Flash..... and you've got yourself a curbstomp.

Originally posted by Madvillain
Its feasible..very feasible.

No.... actually it's not feasible AT ALL.

juggernaut66666
Jakeem?

Martian_mind
Yeh dc with ease

Madvillain
still works though



still goes out


You're forgetting J'onn. J'onn, Wonder Woman,
Simple BFR


Traps him in his board




Still goes down




see above

laughing out loud

.
if it aint Ion, He gets stomped


no, not really...again WW isn't reall a factor and MM gets BFR'd into the end of time.



very feasible smile

Madvillain
Originally posted by Martian_mind
The three still get owned

hardly..they can blow up planets without prep. even if they go down, theyre taking a shitload of people with them

Priest
Originally posted by batdude123
FACT: Kryptonite hardly works on Superman nowadays. His body has built up a solid immunity to the radiation of it.
really thats pretty crazy.... Surfer also can drain all he solar radiation from his cell as another option.

Originally posted by batdude123
Surfer is NOT taking Superman out of the fight easily. That much is certain.
surfer can win atleast a 8/10 majority over superman.

Originally posted by batdude123
You're forgetting J'onn. J'onn, Wonder Woman, Flash, Superman, and KYLE would be facing Norrin.
and facing thor and STRANGE. these three can take a solid majority agaisnt the that Jla line up.

Originally posted by batdude123
They'd kick his ass w/o too much trouble 10/10.
yeah all of the JLA members can dogpile surfer easily.

Originally posted by batdude123
Kyle alone gives Surfer a good fight, one in which Kyle could possibly take the slight majority.
Kyle is not taking no majority over surfer thats for sure. Surfer can go anything Kyle or even Hal can, BUT BETTER.

masterbruce
remember, the 3 Marvel invaders get a day of prep and the attack is surprise.

Thus, they can neutralize some of the tougher DC foes in the initial wave.

just keep that in mind

Martian_mind
What is there that surfer can do that kyle cant?whats stopping jonn sending his mass to another dimension where ss cant touch him and then mindrape.ur idea is that they line up waiting for him to act which they wont hell have his hands full with kyle hal jonns telepathy and whilst they distract him Zatanna just says esol to surfer.

Priest
Originally posted by masterbruce
remember, the 3 Marvel invaders get a day of prep and the attack is surprise.

Thus, they can neutralize some of the tougher DC foes in the initial wave.

just keep that in mind
strange can do wonders with prep.

Madvillain
Originally posted by masterbruce
remember, the 3 Marvel invaders get a day of prep and the attack is surprise.

Thus, they can neutralize some of the tougher DC foes in the initial wave.

just keep that in mind
cool, Strange becomes ETERNITY with his prep. That coupled with the fact that he has stalemated Eternity with his own power tells you how ludicrously powerful he must be,,

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/3565/eternity8pr.jpg

Strange is the true prep god.

Martian_mind
Originally posted by Madvillain
cool, Strange becomes ETERNITY with his prep. That coupled with the fact that he has stalemated Eternity with his own power tells you how ludicrously powerful he must be,,

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/3565/eternity8pr.jpg

Strange is the true prep god.

Thats nice.Spectre and jakeem FTW

Madvillain
Originally posted by Martian_mind
Thats nice.Spectre and jakeem FTW

Then he uses the Amulet to take Spectres powers...

Strange FTW.

Martian_mind
No he wont Spectre >>>>>>>>>strange

Priest
Originally posted by Martian_mind
What is there that surfer can do that kyle cant?
sufer is a better matter manipulator. Has better energy absorpition skills.
is stonger. And much faster. You should ask yourself wat Kyle can do that silversurfer can't do better.

Originally posted by Martian_mind
whats stopping jonn sending his mass to another dimension where ss cant touch him
Whats stopping Surfer from dropping a black hole under J'onn?

Originally posted by Martian_mind
and then mindrape.
Surfer can witstand TK assualts.

Madvillain
Originally posted by Martian_mind
No he wont Spectre >>>>>>>>>strange

so Shuma-Gortah>>>>>>>Strange

doesnt mean his powers wont get taken like the rest.

juggernaut66666
Originally posted by Madvillain
Then he uses the Amulet to take Spectres powers...

Strange FTW.
It goes like the Spectre snaps his fingers Strange becomes a mouse.

Martian_mind
Not MMs plus not telekinesis telepathy

Priest
Originally posted by Martian_mind
No he wont Spectre >>>>>>>>>strange '

is spectre part of dc earth? confused

juggernaut66666
Originally posted by Priest
'

is spectre part of dc earth? confused
Currently he is on Earth his new host is Crispus Allen.

batdude123
Originally posted by Madvillain
still works though

Not really. Kryptonite isn't going to do the job.

Originally posted by Madvillain
still goes out

EXTREMELY debateable... considering he has 6 other guys helping him.

Originally posted by Madvillain
Simple BFR

Surfer wouldn't be able to do anything to anybody, considering he'd be dogpiled by five people who are around, if not, on his level.

Originally posted by Madvillain
Traps him in his board

Kyle sucks him in his ring. roll eyes (sarcastic)

Originally posted by Madvillain
Still goes down

Not at all. Kyle is Surfer level by himself, and would give Norrin a hell of a fight, even w/o the back up.

Originally posted by Madvillain
see above

All I see above is faulty logic.

Originally posted by Madvillain
if it aint Ion, He gets stomped

Really... and what exactly are you basing this off of? You are aware of who Kyle is, aren't you? The one who has manipulated a galaxy, contained a big bang blast, destroyed planets, and can do ANYTHING he puts his mind to? He's more versatile than Norrin is, actually.

Once again, Kyle alone gives Norrin a good fight. Add in the rest... and it's a massive curbstomp.

Originally posted by Madvillain
no, not really...again WW isn't reall a factor and MM gets BFR'd into the end of time.

Norrin gets thrown in the speedforce, or Kyle traps him in his ring. Game over.

Originally posted by Madvillain
very feasible smile

Not feasible at all. JLA beat the crap out of characters who make Norrin look like a puppy in every story arc. This is nonsense. SS would die 10/10.

Devil Lance
Originally posted by Madvillain
Then he uses the Amulet to take Spectres powers...

Strange FTW.
Then Black Alice takes his powers roll eyes (sarcastic)

Priest
Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Currently he is on Earth his new host is Crispus Alllen.

mad

Martian_mind
Spectre=wrath of god he is above eternity and shuma gorath,plus wasnt strange recently helpless against a gun of hitlers due to the evil spirit in it.so Ever heard of ragman?

Madvillain
Originally posted by juggernaut66666
It goes like the Spectre snaps his fingers Strange becomes a mouse.

Negative...so far as Spectres powers are mystical based, that isnt happening.

Strange has stood up to the concept of Death and Eternity, even LT...Spectre has been taken on by lesser characters.

Devil Lance
Originally posted by Madvillain
Negative...so far as Spectres powers are mystical based, that isnt happening.

Strange has stood up to the concept of Death and Eternity, even LT...Spectre has been taken on by lesser characters.

Strange isn't a factor in this fight he gets taken out by Black Alice roll eyes (sarcastic)

juggernaut66666
Originally posted by Madvillain
Negative...so far as Spectres powers are mystical based, that isnt happening.

Strange has stood up to the concept of Death and Eternity, even LT...Spectre has been taken on by lesser characters.
Strange never stood up against LT he was only testing Strange.
Lesser characters? Who?

Martian_mind
Originally posted by Madvillain
Negative...so far as Spectres powers are mystical based, that isnt happening.

Strange has stood up to the concept of Death and Eternity, even LT...Spectre has been taken on by lesser characters.

So has strange whats your point?

batdude123
Originally posted by Priest
really thats pretty crazy.... Surfer also can drain all he solar radiation from his cell as another option.

Right... people have tried that. Superman gains the energy back as fast as it gets taken out.

Originally posted by Priest
surfer can win atleast a 8/10 majority over superman.

More like 6-7/10.

Originally posted by Priest
and facing thor and STRANGE. these three can take a solid majority agaisnt the that Jla line up.

Sure they can. But we're discussing how Norrin would fair alone.

Originally posted by Priest
Kyle is not taking no majority over surfer thats for sure. Surfer can go anything Kyle or even Hal can, BUT BETTER.

laughing out loud

What the hell are you basing this off of? At the top of their games, Kyle has been more impressive.

Madvillain
Originally posted by Martian_mind
Spectre=wrath of god he is above eternity and shuma gorath,
that's nice...

still strange takes his powers.

Avalonofthewind
DC Earth curbstomps these 3.

This isn't even a battle.

Madvillain
Originally posted by Martian_mind
So has strange whats your point?

exactly..

so what's your point?

juggernaut66666
Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Strange never stood up against LT he was only testing Strange.
Lesser characters? Who?

Martian_mind
No he wont whats to stop spectre taking his powers?

Devil Lance
Originally posted by Madvillain
that's nice...

still strange takes his powers.


eek! that means even more power for Black Alice To Steal

batdude123
Originally posted by Madvillain
that's nice...

still strange takes his powers.

You're an IDIOT if you think Strange can take the second most powerful being in DC.

Straight up IDIOT.

Madvillain
Originally posted by Martian_mind
No he wont whats to stop spectre taking his powers?

What's to stop Strange from taking his powers? He took Shuma-Gorath's powers. And shuma is stated as being Omnipotent in his realm.

Martian_mind
Originally posted by Madvillain
exactly..

so what's your point?

What...u brought up spectres bad losses and i brought up stranges plus Ragman FTW

juggernaut66666
Originally posted by Madvillain
What's to stop Strange from taking his powers? He took Shuma-Gorath's powers. And shuma is stated as being Omnipotent in his realm.
Ion is also stated Omnipotent but was he above Spectre??? Nah
So Who were those lesser characters who have beaten Spectre? because I don't really remember any

Devil Lance
No one has infromed as to how Strange is going to beat Black Alice

Martian_mind
Originally posted by Madvillain
What's to stop Strange from taking his powers? He took Shuma-Gorath's powers. And shuma is stated as being Omnipotent in his realm.

Well evidently hes not if hs powers were taken.Plus spectre killed shazam who at the very least is stranges equal.Any way i see theirs no comeback to RAGMAN.

Madvillain
Originally posted by batdude123
You're an IDIOT if you think Strange can take the second most powerful being in DC.

Straight up IDIOT.
Your mother sucks cock for Quarters you piece of shit. The **** is wrong with you...lol. It's not that serious you dumb ******.

GEEEZ

Martian_mind
Originally posted by Madvillain
Your mother sucks cock for Quarters you piece of shit. The **** is wrong with you...lol. It's not that serious you dumb ******.

GEEEZ

Then y did u sink to his level. Boy u ure came off as a big man

Madvillain
Originally posted by Martian_mind
Then y did u sink to his level. Boy u ure came off as a big man

Eat shit and die. If it aint about comics, then don't address or refer to me.

bigbran
Originally posted by batdude123
You're an IDIOT if you think Strange can take the second most powerful being in DC.

Straight up IDIOT. Whats the matter, I thought Strange was an abstract... shifty

Galan007
Originally posted by masterbruce
Can they take over DC Earth? With no prep, I wonder how they could get by Jakeem, or Black Alice...

btw, Ion is currently on earth as well shifty

Priest
Originally posted by batdude123
Right... people have tried that. Superman gains the energy back as fast as it gets taken out.
tell me, has anyone that that has the capasilty of absorb the energy of a sun ever do that to superman?



Originally posted by batdude123
More like 6-7/10.
as long as Surfer still has his speed advantage, and matter manipulation powers, surfer dominates superman. Esspecially current surfer w/ upgrade.

Originally posted by batdude123
Sure they can.
yep.

Originally posted by batdude123
But we're discussing how Norrin would fair alone.
i did agree with u on that one.


Originally posted by batdude123
What the hell are you basing this off of? At the top of their games, Kyle has been more impressive.
Top of there games? are u talking about ion??
base strength surfer possess far superior speed, durability, strength, energy absorbtion and the power cosmic that will take solid majority over Kyle.

Martian_mind
Originally posted by Madvillain
Eat shit and die. If it aint about comics, then don't address or refer to me.

Somebodies cranky.what didnt u have ur daily nap

masterbruce
Originally posted by Galan007
With no prep, I wonder how they could get by Jakeem, or Black Alice...

btw, Ion is currently on earth as well shifty

they get 1 day prep and it's a surprise attack

Madvillain
Originally posted by Martian_mind
Somebodies cranky.what didnt u have ur daily nap

OMG...look everyone...it's really him....it's really ....... GHALLAGER!!!

Galan007
Originally posted by masterbruce
they get 1 day prep and it's a surprise attack One day to beat Ion, a 5D Imp, and a sorceror who is near the same level as Strange himself, among so many others?

Sorry, Strange and Surfer aren't THAT badass.

Martian_mind
One day isnt enough it will only really be useful to strange who will get pwned by spectre alice and RAGMAN as well as jakeem

Martian_mind
Originally posted by Madvillain
OMG...look everyone...it's really him....it's really ....... GHALLAGER!!!

Thats just sad.Anyway im done u bore me

Madvillain
Originally posted by Martian_mind
Thats just sad.Anyway im done u bore me

Same thing I said to your mother. Under different circumstances though. Who know cripples were so flexible.

Martian_mind
Originally posted by Madvillain
Same thing I said to your mother. Under different circumstances though. Who know cripples were so flexible.

A momma joke. how Quaint.So i take it that during the act u swept the soft toys off ur bed threw ur legs up into the air and prayed to god u werent wearing ur granny panties?

Galan007
The maturity level of some people never ceases to amaze me roll eyes (sarcastic)

Madvillain
Originally posted by Martian_mind
A momma joke. how Quaint.So i take it that during the act u swept the soft toys off ur bed threw ur legs up into the air and prayed to god u werent wearing ur granny panties?
Oh, hey you.

I thought you were done roll eyes (sarcastic) .


You're too damn easy. Now go chase your tail around till you get dizzy and die.

Supreme being
Originally posted by batdude123
You're an IDIOT if you think Strange can take the second most powerful being in DC.

Straight up IDIOT.
laughing The guy has mad in his title that has got to be telling you something,DC earth for the win for crying out loud i didn't think people actually still spouted total shit like someone stealing spectres power but well there you have it.

Priest
Originally posted by Galan007
The maturity level of some people never ceases to amaze me roll eyes (sarcastic)
this thread got pretty ugly quick

Madvillain
Originally posted by Galan007
The maturity level of some people never ceases to amaze me roll eyes (sarcastic)

my girth> my maturity

thats for damn sure.

Galan007
Originally posted by Priest
this thread got pretty ugly quick I guess so.....

It could have been a good debate too, they might as well PM a Mod and tell them to close this thread roll eyes (sarcastic)

Martian_mind
Originally posted by Madvillain
Oh, hey you.

I thought you were done roll eyes (sarcastic) .


You're too damn easy. Now go chase your tail around till you get dizzy and die.

Because i believed that comment would finish it but of course u lacked the mental capacity to realise u were flogging a dead horse.Oh well at least i managed to obtain some entertainment from ur inane attitude.

Priest
Originally posted by Galan007
I guess so.....

It could have been a good debate too, they might as well PM a Mod and tell them to close this thread roll eyes (sarcastic)
indeed ..sigh

Madvillain
Originally posted by Martian_mind
Because i believed that comment would finish it but of course u lacked the mental capacity to realise u were flogging a dead horse.Oh well at least i managed to obtain some entertainment from ur inane attitude.

I was flogging the dead horse yet you sheepishly fell for the bait embarrasment . What a moron.

I hope you don't take yourself this seriously in real life. I'd laugh at your stupid face if you did. Dolt.

Martian_mind
Who was baited now.

batdude123
Originally posted by Madvillain
Your mother sucks cock for Quarters you piece of shit. The **** is wrong with you...lol. It's not that serious you dumb ******.

GEEEZ

....

Like I said. no expression

Idiot.

Madvillain
Originally posted by Martian_mind
Who was baited now.

Umm..you were.

batdude123
Originally posted by bigbran
Whats the matter, I thought Strange was an abstract... shifty

... Who cannot take on the Spectre undery ANY circumstances.

Madvillain
Originally posted by batdude123
....

Like I said. no expression

Idiot.

Like I said

Your mother sucks cock for Quarters no expression

Martian_mind
Originally posted by Madvillain
Umm..you were.

Uwere the one who still posted after i had left so thats just pitiful.And anyway this is very unproduvtive and a waste of time so i might get back on topic or go to another thread.plz at least be intelligent enough to not respond or embarass urself further.or just continually abuse i dont care u obviosly have some things u need to work out

batdude123
Originally posted by Priest
tell me, has anyone that that has the capasilty of absorb the energy of a sun ever do that to superman?

Yes actually.

Originally posted by Priest
as long as Surfer still has his speed advantage, and matter manipulation powers, surfer dominates superman. Esspecially current surfer w/ upgrade.

Travel speed means absolutely ZILCH in a fight. Superman's combat speed trumps Surfer's by quite a bit.

Superman's also stronger, and more durable.

Originally posted by Priest
i did agree with u on that one.

Then why are we arguing? confused

Originally posted by Priest
Top of there games? are u talking about ion??
base strength surfer possess far superior speed, durability, strength, energy absorbtion and the power cosmic that will take solid majority over Kyle.

No. All the feats mentioned are from regular GL Kyle, actually.

Kyle can do everything Surfer can. These two are the perfect match. It would be one hell of a fight. Exactly the reason why Kyle, along with the other 6 members of the JLA would pwn Norrin 10/10.

batdude123
Originally posted by Madvillain
Like I said

Your mother sucks cock for Quarters no expression

You sure you're not talking about Darkseid?

bigbran
Surfer pawns Superman.

Madvillain
Originally posted by batdude123
You sure you're not talking about Darkseid?

no, your mother.

Madvillain
Originally posted by Martian_mind
Uwere the one who still posted after i had left so thats just pitiful.And anyway this is very unproduvtive and a waste of time so i might get back on topic or go to another thread.plz at least be intelligent enough to not respond or embarass urself further.or just continually abuse i dont care u obviosly have some things u need to work out

man shut the **** up. lol i dont care....don't you get it. jump off the roof or something.

batdude123
Originally posted by Madvillain
no, your mother.

Don't get mad at me.

I'm not the idiot who said Strange would take away Spectre's power. laughing out loud laughing hysterical2 crylaugh

Madvillain
Originally posted by batdude123
Don't get mad at me.

I'm not the idiot who said Strange would take away Spectre's power. laughing out loud laughing hysterical2 crylaugh

In your little mind, I bet that's hilarious.

Tell the average person this, and they'd look at you like a ****ing moron.

YAAAAAAAAAWN.

And Strange wins. He also beats Presence. Now **** off! wink

batdude123
Originally posted by Madvillain
In your little mind, I bet that's hilarious.

Tell the average person this, and they'd look at you like a ****ing moron.

YAAAAAAAAAWN.

And Strange wins. He also beats Presence. Now **** off! wink

So?

Go be an idiot somewhere please.

Madvillain
Originally posted by batdude123
So?

Go be an idiot somewhere please.

Do you wear plastic glasses with white tape in the middle?

batdude123
Originally posted by Madvillain
Do you wear plastic glasses with white tape in the middle?

No.

Do you wear a helmet when you go places?

Madvillain
Originally posted by batdude123
No.

Do you wear a helmet when you go places?


Helmet joke? erm

Are you really THAT sheltered? Ah, so it comes back to your whore mother once again.

batdude123
Originally posted by Madvillain
Helmet joke? erm

Are you really THAT sheltered? Ah, so it comes back to your whore mother once again.

Wow... a yo momma joke. erm

You get 100 points for originality. roll eyes (sarcastic)

Madvillain
Originally posted by batdude123
Wow... a yo momma joke. erm

You get 100 points for originality. roll eyes (sarcastic)

It was a direct reference to the cum drinking dick sucker. I never onced used "yo moma"

Learn to read you cornball. Life doesn't stop at comics. There's a vast world outside of your bedroom in case you haven't noticed.

Madvillain
now go choke on a dick.

batdude123
Originally posted by Madvillain
It was a direct reference to the cum drinking dick sucker.

So.... you? confused

Such a sad little boy... no

Madvillain
Originally posted by batdude123
So.... you? confused

Such a sad little boy... no

okay

now run along. ive grown tired of your stupidity.

Supreme being
Originally posted by Madvillain
It was a direct reference to the cum drinking dick sucker. I never onced used "yo moma"

Learn to read you cornball. Life doesn't stop at comics. There's a vast world outside of your bedroom in case you haven't noticed.


confused Don't mean to interfere fellas but doesn't language like this usually result in a warning or a ban?





























cool back as you were guys.

batdude123
Originally posted by Madvillain
ive grown tired of your stupidity.

It's funny that you're calling anyone stupid....

Madvillain
Originally posted by batdude123
It's funny that you're calling anyone stupid....
yeah, okay, cool...now go away..go do something.

UniOmni
Batdude, Superman is stronger than Surfer.

But he's not as fast, has nowhere near the energy projection.

They're both more durable than most heroes.

Superman isn't more durable than Surfer.

batdude123
Originally posted by UniOmni
Batdude, Superman is stronger than Surfer.

But he's not as fast, has nowhere near the energy projection.

They're both more durable than most heroes.

Superman isn't more durable than Surfer.

I'm talking about combat speed. Superman has more useful speed in terms of fighting.

Surfer's is good if you want to travel a couple hundred light years really quick... but not for fighting. erm

Superman's fast enough to get in close, and that's all he needs.

Let's not bring up T-Vo either... whistle

All that aside, let me ask you a question.... do you think Surfer could easily beat the crap out of Superman? That's what most people seem to believe, and honestly I find that rediculous.

DigiMark007
He's been warned. It's his 3rd official warning, so a temp ban may also follow at this point.

long pig
If Spectre isn't around, then they could. The Darkhold, which Strange has possession of, was said to be powerful enough to destroy the marvel universe if allowed, all Strange has to do is sacrifice himself during the prep by freeing Chthon and that's pretty much the end of D.C Earth. That's just one single artifact ol' Strange has at his disposal.....so, yeah.

SS and Thor aren't needed at all.

Martian_mind
What about jakeem thunder?

long pig
Originally posted by Martian_mind
What about jakeem thunder?
What's his genie's greatest feat so far? Is he immune to a planet-wide time stop?

Martian_mind
Probably.but if hes not phantom stranger or spectre would be.anyway ur destroy the universe idea doesntmatter as they are meant to take over dc earth not destroy it.

long pig
What are Phantom Stranger's best feats? Spectre is a bit of a sod, though. Sometimes he has good feats, sometimes he gets his ass handed to him by a 17 year old girl or told what to do by Zatanna. He's just as inconsistent as the rest of 'em.

UniOmni
Originally posted by batdude123
I'm talking about combat speed. Superman has more useful speed in terms of fighting.

Surfer's is good if you want to travel a couple hundred light years really quick... but not for fighting. erm

Superman's fast enough to get in close, and that's all he needs.

Let's not bring up T-Vo either... whistle

All that aside, let me ask you a question.... do you think Surfer could easily beat the crap out of Superman? That's what most people seem to believe, and honestly I find that rediculous.

Do i think he has the tools, and ability to beat the crap outta Superman?

Yeah.

Is it in character for him to do so?

Nope.

Would it happen in a comic?

Nope, due to the starpower of the kryptonian.

long pig
Please, Surfer would eat Superman alive. He's everything Superman wishes he could be.

dvampire
DC easily wins.

Martian_mind
Yes but so is strange i mean he'll go from taking universe destroying blasts to bein unable to take a shot from hitlers gun WTF.Strange has some uber feats but u yourself have said that at best strange is in odins category.Btw jakeem i dont think its his greatest feat but he and another genie were fighting and casually destroying earth.

dvampire
Originally posted by long pig
Please, Surfer would eat Superman alive. He's everything Superman wishes he could be.

Superman will eat Surfer alive (and his surf board).

UniOmni
^^^ Comedy.

long pig
Originally posted by Martian_mind
Yes but so is strange i mean he'll go from taking universe destroying blasts to bein unable to take a shot from hitlers gun WTF.Strange has some uber feats but u yourself have said that at best strange is in odins category.Btw jakeem i dont think its his greatest feat but he and another genie were fighting and casually destroying earth.
Oh, he's most definitely inconsistent. Well, kinda. He's depowered now, so basically it's Classic Strange and Current Strange. At best, he's in Odin's category, indeed. But, unlike Odin, Strange has access to power that stretches across the entire multi-verse. The Darkhold isn't Strange's power, but he can still use it nonetheless.


Originally posted by dvampire
Superman will eat Surfer alive (and his surf board).
Superman would rate as a fairly low level herald, maybe just above Nova. There is no way in hell he'd win even once against the highest rated herald.

Superman is just the Hulk with the ability to fly, laser beams and Captain Cold's friggin' ice gun. Nothing more.

darthgoober
Wait, is this set up like the Imperiex invades Marvel Earth fight? I mean, do they just show up and blast the shit out of the planet without warning? If so, they could probably pull it off(Spectre and the like wouldn't be hurt, but the planet, populous and the majority of the heroes would be toast).

However, if it's about the three of them trying to fight everyone, they don't stand a chance.

long pig
Originally posted by darthgoober
Wait, is this set up like the Imperiex invades Marvel Earth fight? I mean, do they just show up and blast the shit out of the planet without warning? If so, they could probably pull it off(Spectre and the like wouldn't be hurt, but the planet, populous and the majority of the heroes would be toast).

However, if it's about the three of them trying to fight everyone, they don't stand a chance.
From what I gather, it's them, with prep, just showing up trying to take out the planet.

Martian_mind
theyre trying to conquer the planet

darthgoober
Originally posted by long pig
From what I gather, it's them, with prep, just showing up trying to take out the planet.
Oh then I could definately see them doing it. All three of them are capable of destroying a planet solo(though Thor would probably have to use a Godblast).

darthgoober
Originally posted by Martian_mind
theyre trying to conquer the planet
Oh if they're actually trying to conquer the planet then no. They wouldn't even really have a chance.

long pig
Originally posted by Martian_mind
theyre trying to conquer the planet
As in being King?

Where did it say that? If so, then I'll have to rethink.

dvampire
Say's who? Superman would beat almost any of the Heralds, including Surfer. His feats put him on par with the best Heralds.




He's far more complex than that.

dvampire
Originally posted by darthgoober
Oh then I could definately see them doing it. All three of them are capable of destroying a planet solo(though Thor would probably have to use a Godblast).

You have DC characters that could destroy planets solo, and there's more of them than they Marvel in this battle. I don't see them pulling a win unless Strange cast some type broken spell. But DC has powerful Magic users too, so even Strange won't be able to help.

darthgoober
Originally posted by dvampire
You have DC characters that could destroy planets solo, and there's more of them than they Marvel in this battle. I don't see them pulling a win unless Strange cast some type broken spell. But DC has powerful Magic users too, so even Strange won't be able to help.
You know, there's a whole thread to that subject that just got bumped.

Originally posted by dvampire
You have DC characters that could destroy planets solo, and there's more of them than they Marvel in this battle. I don't see them pulling a win unless Strange cast some type broken spell. But DC has powerful Magic users too, so even Strange won't be able to help.
No I meant if Marvel just showed up out of nowhere when no one was ready. In that case, yeah they could destroy the planet. I already said in a situation where they're trying to fight everyone on DC Earth they lose.

hunbu04
if you think strange can take the phantom stranger than u r a fool cuz the stranger is an abstract and that was while in DOV not even the spectre could kill him. and talking about feat it was the phantom stranger who first defeated elipso and trap him in the black diamond if u don't know elipso the wrath of God before the spectre replace him. another thing the phantom stranger is a member of the quintessence a group of five omnipotent beings as they are described in dcu. dr stranger defeating the phantom stranger is like saying stranger can defeat a full power galactus or infinity or eternity. The phantom stranger is deux en mechina in dcu and he is even fear by darkseid and is well respected by the endless.

long pig
Originally posted by dvampire
Say's who? Superman would beat almost any of the Heralds, including Surfer. His feats put him on par with the best Heralds.




He's far more complex than that.
Sigh, no....he isn't on par with most cosmics; including low level heralds.

Look at it this way, what powers does Superman have that AREN'T purely physical? He can punch, fly, blast, freeze and take hits. That's all. A Herald is all that and beyond. A herald is all of that PLUS mental, time control, illusion control, outward molecular control, reality warping, energy manipulation, life giving, healing others and things that boarder on mystical.

Superman just ISN'T on par. He's a flying, blasting, strong-armed brick. He looks all powerful because he's on Earth and he hangs with street level types. He seems all powerful because writers use PIS to make him out to be so gary sue it's sick.

Your boy just ain't that special.

long pig
Originally posted by hunbu04
if you think strange can take the phantom stranger than u r a fool cuz the stranger is an abstract and that was while in DOV not even the spectre could kill him. and talking about feat it was the phantom stranger who first defeated elipso and trap him in the black diamond if u don't know elipso the wrath of God before the spectre replace him. another thing the phantom stranger is a member of the quintessence a group of five omnipotent beings as they are described in dcu. dr stranger defeating the phantom stranger is like saying stranger can defeat a full power galactus or infinity or eternity. The phantom stranger is deux en mechina in dcu and he is even fear by darkseid and is well respected by the endless.
What are any Phantom Stranger's best feats? Hell, Spectre couldn't kill tons of people, including BA and Zatanna. It was alluded to that e couldn't even hurt an Astral Form.

Name a Phantom Stranger feat and I'll tell you if Strange could pull it off.

tjcoady
Just a thought...

Why are we assuming Spectre would even fight? He's the embodiement of God's/The Source's wrath- there really is no reason why God would be opposed to these three taking over Earth, the same way the Spectre just doesn't get involved when a standard villian tries to take over the world. I don't have scans for this, but if I recall correctly, when Crispus Allen was first learning to be the Spectre, he was shocked that they couldn't intervene to prevent a murder- God does NOT give him power to do that. The Spectre's power level is exactly however much is necessary for him to accomplish whatever God wants him to do- and absolutely nothing at all more, for any reason at all. Unless someone could show me why God would want to prevent this takeover, then I don't think the Spectre would be able to do anything to the Surfer, Strange, or Thor.

That being said, I still don't think they could do it. If they were actually attempting to conquer the planet, they would encounter waaaay too much resistance from way too many variations of powers.

hunbu04
the Phantom stranger defeating elipso a spectre level being and etrigon the demon. The stranger cannot used his powers to end a crisis directly because the higher authority won't allowed him and that is the only reasons he is not deuz en mechina. not unless he is attack directly

long pig
Strange could beat Etrigan without a whole lot of trouble. He could be Eclipso as well under the same circumstances PS did.

The difference between Marvel Magic and DC Magic is D.C magic is full of rules. That doesn't apply in marvel.

Still haven't seen anything about PS that is above Strange.

tjcoady
just another thought-

Dr. Strange, when he lost the patronship of the Vishanti for refusing to fight in the War of Seven Spheres, and before he tapped into the Gaien aura to power his magic, utilized (or at least understood how to) chaos and 'catastrophy' magic. Avengers/JLA showed how ENORMOUSLY powerful this kind of magic was in the DCU when the Scarlet Witch weilded it. Dr. Strange is clearly a WAAAY better sorceror than Wanda is, because she mostly realied on her mutant power as a backup to sorcery... and, so, wouldn't it be possibly for Dr. Strange to also be much, much more powerful in the DC Universe?

Martian_mind
Originally posted by long pig
As in being King?

Where did it say that? If so, then I'll have to rethink.

First post masterbruce says they are trying to take over the planet.Btw regarding strange if he was unable to stop Hitlers gun how is he going to stop RAGMAN a being totally made of evil souls.Plus Jakeem thunder would still defeat him.Thor and surfer are basically nullified during this event with strange being the only problem.Also isnt ion on dc earth at the moment?

tjcoady
Stop the Hitler's gun argument- It pierce Strange's auto shields while he was basically asleep. Strange with a day of prep throws up the shield of the seraphim and there is no way whatsoever a bullet, from any kind of gun, or any other attack for that matter, is getting through.

Martian_mind
But..But...IT's RAGMAN

tjcoady
Ragman is a sweet character, but he's horrible outclassed here. Aside from his soul-absorption abilities, his magic is hardly amazing. Doctor Strange has gone head to head with the Soul Gem itself, in the hands of its most powerful user- so that's a non-issue here.

What's to stop Doctor Strange from summoning a force of demons, as well? He's done it before.

Avalonofthewind
This is still going on?

Those 3 get horribly stomped.

Dr Strange by himself would end up as a nut tickling whore for Etrigan.

doctorstrongbad
Three of Marvel's heavy hitters with prep time. I think they could pull it off, but it would not be easy. The power cosmic, the thunder god and the magic man are an awesome team.

Galan007
Originally posted by Galan007
With no prep, I wonder how they could get by Jakeem, Black Alice, or Dr. Fate...

btw, Ion is currently on earth as well shifty Originally posted by masterbruce
they get 1 day prep and it's a surprise attack Originally posted by Galan007
One day to beat Ion, a 5D Imp, and a sorceror who is near the same level as Strange himself, among so many others?

Sorry, Strange and Surfer aren't THAT badass.

Avalonofthewind
Ion, Black Alice, and Captain Marvel handle those 3 with ease.

Hell, Batman uses Lex's infinitely programmable, infinitely configurable Kryptonian battleship and takes them out on his own.

Ah...the power of the Batman with the ultimate PIS weapon.

doctorstrongbad
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Ion, Black Alice, and Captain Marvel handle those 3 with ease.

Hell, Batman uses Lex's infinitely programmable, infinitely configurable Kryptonian battleship and takes them out on his own.
Ah...the power of the Batman with the ultimate PIS weapon.

Your counting Ion on earth? I thought the point of "DC earth" was no sky fathers or crazy characters like that. I don't think DC earth should have Ion or Captain Marvel.

With just DC earth, and prep, the Marvel team should be able to pull it off.

Avalonofthewind
Originally posted by doctorstrongbad
Your counting Ion on earth? I thought the point of "DC earth" was no sky fathers or crazy characters like that. I don't think DC earth should have Ion or Captain Marvel.

With just DC earth, and prep, the Marvel team should be able to pull it off.

They live on Earth...and those are just 3 characters.

They can all be phantom zoned and powerless with ease.

doctorstrongbad
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
They live on Earth...and those are just 3 characters.

They can all be phantom zoned and powerless with ease.

Another vote for the Marvel team.

xmarksthespot
This thread was amusing. Anyway DC Earth wins.

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