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Cable (with TO virus) and Iceman

cable:http://www.marvel.com/universe/Cable

Iceman:http://www.marvel.com/universe/Iceman

-War Machine (Parnell Jacobs w/exo skeleton)
http://www.marvel.com/universe/War_Machine_(Parnell_Jacobs)
-Tempest (from the Exemplars)
http://www.classicmarvel.com/cast/tempest.htm

I'm going with:

The Super-Skrull in all his badass shape-shifting FFish brutality. Use of his Hypnosis power will be severely limited limited by rules 2 and 8..

and Temujin/Mandarin II, for whom I have frustratingly failed to find meaningful links as yet. For the unfamiliar, he's the Mandarin's son and heir. He packs his father's rings, but uses super-kung-fu instead of super-science (apart from the aforementioned rings, of course.) Here's the Mandarin I's bio, which both lists Temujin as his son and the powers of the rings. Certain uses of the rings would be curtailed by rules 2,3,4, and 11; of course.

You can see father and son on the cover of Issue #7 of the current OHOTMU (Lower left, Temujin crouching) I'll probably need to pick-up a copy and post the bio. http://www.marvel.com/universe3zx/images/8/83/ANOHotMU-07.jpg

Mimic (exiles)

http://www.marvel.com/universe/Mimic_%28Exiles%29

Dr Light

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_Light_%28DC_Comics_supervillain%29

Dr. light and super skrull?? light is herald level and skrull has 4 enhanced meta powers

EXTREMIS Iron Man and Dr DOOM

Aquaman (waterbearer hand)
Sand

Colossus http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/c/colossus.htm
Sasquatch http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/s/sasquatch.htm

Originally posted by Loot
skrull has 4 enhanced meta powers

Yes. And War-Machine has at least half a dozen. What's the problem?

I might say that Extremis IM is over the line though. He was able to meaningfully hang with the Sentry against the Collective. That's a Herald rumble.

SuperSkrull is too powerful.

Extremis Iron Man was dismissed before the first drafts were up.

A lot of these teams are looking like they are going to be not so cohesive

I don't think so....

Originally posted by B dot Rob
A lot of these teams are looking like they are going to be not so cohesive

I completly agree, it's all over the map. Oh well.

EXTREMIS Iron Man http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Man

and

Dr DOOM http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr_Doom

Originally posted by Scoobless
SuperSkrull is too powerful.

Extremis Iron Man was dismissed before the first drafts were up.


Where was that?

Mr Sinister
Stryfe (sex)

Originally posted by Scoobless
SuperSkrull is too powerful.



I don't see how.

Evangel94 gaveTorch (without Nova-Flame), and Thing as exemplars for this power class.

Pre-Extremis Iron-Man was also specifically listed as being an example of this level, so I cant see where Kl'rt having multaple powers puts him over the top either.

How about him being able to solo both Torch and Thing?

Originally posted by Scoobless
Mimic (exiles)

http://www.marvel.com/universe/Mimic_%28Exiles%29

Dr Light

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_Light_%28DC_Comics_supervillain%29



Mimic fought toe to toe with Evil Hyperion...


IMO Evil Hyperion= Herald level or better

I think we need some rulings on the drafts so far

Originally posted by Tony Stark
Mimic fought toe to toe with Evil Hyperion...


IMO Evil Hyperion= Herald level or better

Hyperion wrecked Mimic ... what's the problem?

Damn am always to late...

Dane http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dane_%28Wildstorm%29
Spartan w/void enhancement http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spartan_%28comics%29

Originally posted by Scoobless
Hyperion wrecked Mimic ... what's the problem?


If my memory is correct mimic solo'd him for sometime until his team came in and helped him out.

Whether or not Hyperion was winning the fight isn't the point...

SS>Airwalker but they are both herald level charcters.

Originally posted by Tony Stark
Mimic fought toe to toe with Evil Hyperion...


IMO Evil Hyperion= Herald level or better

you have a problem with mimic and not with light?

Originally posted by Loot
you have a problem with mimic and not with light?


No doubt Light has had some supreme showings against herald level characters as well.

Originally posted by Tony Stark
If my memory is correct mimic solo'd him for sometime until his team came in and helped him out.

Whether or not Hyperion was winning the fight isn't the point...

SS>Airwalker but they are both herald level charcters.




Your memory is not correct.

Not once did Mimic hurt Hyperion in a 1 vs 1 situation

Mimic is overrated

I'm going to reserve all my thoughts on peoples picks because Evangel94's thoughts are the only ones that count and they aren't going to be stated until all picks at all levels are in. We're all in good hands.

Good luck to all

Originally posted by Tony Stark
EXTREMIS Iron Man and Dr DOOM

Extremis Iron Man is low herald level power wise and herald level prep wise.

You can use regular Pre-Extremis Iron Man as enhanced meta if you wish.

Dr. Doom is herald level because of his intelligence and tech.

There's VERY little imformation on this character, but I found what I could...

Erica
http://www.geocities.com/jhaeman/Comics/spellbo.html

Magneto
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magneto_(comics)

Originally posted by Laminator_X
I'm going with:

The Super-Skrull in all his badass shape-shifting FFish brutality. Use of his Hypnosis power will be severely limited limited by rules 2 and 8..

and Temujin/Mandarin II, for whom I have frustratingly failed to find meaningful links as yet. For the unfamiliar, he's the Mandarin's son and heir. He packs his father's rings, but uses super-kung-fu instead of super-science (apart from the aforementioned rings, of course.) Here's the Mandarin I's bio, which both lists Temujin as his son and the powers of the rings. Certain uses of the rings would be curtailed by rules 2,3,4, and 11; of course.

You can see father and son on the cover of Issue #7 of the current OHOTMU (Lower left, Temujin crouching) I'll probably need to pick-up a copy and post the bio. http://www.marvel.com/universe3zx/images/8/83/ANOHotMU-07.jpg

If you want super skrull, you won't get his satellite or any power boosting abilities.

edit: my mistake

Originally posted by King Kandy
There's VERY little imformation on this character, but I found what I could...

Erica
http://www.geocities.com/jhaeman/Comics/spellbo.html

Magneto
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magneto_(comics)

1. Both of them are Herald level. Erica seems to be herald level. I can't really get any specific info on her, which leads me to my next point...

2. You posted a review of a comic that mentions her character in passing, but not an actual bio. You need more than that to qualify anybody in my tournament.

Please re-choose.

There is 0 information about Erica online.

But I can use your alternative, and post page after page of scans.

I'm surprised no one has complained about Iceman

Originally posted by Blair Wind
I'm surprised no one has complained about Iceman
That was my next complaint.

If Magneto (Alpha Level) isn't allowed, then how come Iceman (Omega LeveL) is?

It's because in character Iceman sucks

Ok....when he starts pulling out scans from the respect thread, well....you guys cant say I didn't warn you

reed richards

Steel

Originally posted by Blair Wind


Ok....when he starts pulling out scans from the respect thread, well....you guys cant say I didn't warn you

Same goes for Talisman being picked.

Originally posted by Blair Wind
I'm surprised no one has complained about Iceman

I assumed it would be classic Iceman

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Same goes for Talisman being picked.

Didn't notice that one

Talisman = Banned!

Originally posted by Scoobless
Didn't notice that one

Talisman = Banned!



Well maybe he will suprize us and use the Australian Talisman, he hasn't provided yet.

Was there no bio... that'll be why I never paid attention... wasn't talisman banned from the last Herald level tourney?

Originally posted by Scoobless
I assumed it would be classic Iceman



Didn't notice that one

Talisman = Banned!



Classic Iceman? The one who flash froze legion? The one who froze hulk so much that he fell asleep? just to name a few.....besides....whats classic? He never really got a powerup, just a better understanding of his powers...

Originally posted by Blair Wind
Classic Iceman? The one who flash froze legion? The one who froze hulk so much that he fell asleep? just to name a few.....besides....whats classic? He never really got a powerup, just a better understanding of his powers...

I thought it was a "secondary mutation" or some pish like that ....

Originally posted by Scoobless
I thought it was a "secondary mutation" or some pish like that ....

Secondary mutation? ALL that did for him was make him unable to go back to human form. Every power he had that I use in debates have been established before that took place. He has not gained anything from that, and even with it gone now that HoM happened, he still is at the same power level as before

Fine ... get him banned then.

Originally posted by Scoobless
Was there no bio... that'll be why I never paid attention... wasn't talisman banned from the last Herald level tourney?

maybe I don't remember

What's irritating is when someone who has a guy who's effortlessly taken out 1243321526 Teen Titans coming at him at once at mid rallying to get people banned.

Fine... I'll ditch Light if everyone else stops going way over the limits

Pinning (and unpinning the 1st draft).

Originally posted by Evangel94
Extremis Iron Man is low herald level power wise and herald level prep wise.

You can use regular Pre-Extremis Iron Man as enhanced meta if you wish.

Dr. Doom is herald level because of his intelligence and tech.




Since EXTREMIS and Doom are concidered Herald level I will go with:



Pre-EXTREMIS Iron Man http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_man


and


Count Nefaria http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Count_Nefaria

Originally posted by Tony Stark
Count Nefaria http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Count_Nefaria

The Count is a herald level character.

Originally posted by Blair Wind
Secondary mutation? ALL that did for him was make him unable to go back to human form. Every power he had that I use in debates have been established before that took place. He has not gained anything from that, and even with it gone now that HoM happened, he still is at the same power level as before

Prior to Age of Apocalypse in the 90's, there was no "back to human form" he was always in human form. He covered himself in ice as armor and disguise, rather than becoming some sort of elemental. AoA was so popular that they made 616 iceman that way too.

He did receive a powerup in the original X-Factor run, but that was just increasing the strength of his existing ice-powers.

Originally posted by batdude123
The Count is a herald level character.

Seriously, he's like Superman.

Okay. Replace Magneto with Graviton.

Originally posted by Evangel94
If you want super skrull, you won't get his satellite or any power boosting abilities.

That's what I had in mind. Thank's for the clarification.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Okay. Replace Magneto with Graviton.

That's even worse ....

Originally posted by Scoobless
That's even worse ....
Joke, man, joke.

Seriously. I'll take basic Mar-Vell.

Hmm. Violator, and the brood. Btw, thanks for letting me keep Apoc. He has died a few times, so it's not like he's really above herald level. He's just really really sneaky and hard to kill. Do you consider Omega Red enhanced meta or spidey level? Cause if the brood is out, I'll take him instead.

Originally posted by jasofisc
reed richards

Steel


could reed be in the next draft? if so i want to replace him with vision

Iceman? No.

Dr. Light? No.

Nefaria? No.

Originally posted by jasofisc
could reed be in the next draft? if so i want to replace him with vision

I seem to recall Evangel94 saying you had to wait until after the drafting was over to switch picks that aren't disqualified.

Sounds like a good choice to me though.

Light and Iceman are tricky.

"Slide around and make cold and ice" Iceman should be fine.
"Unkilable water elemental" Iceman probably belongs in Herald.

"Light and dark tricks + forcefields" Dr. Light is groovy.
"Absorb the Ray, take over GL constructs, and bully ALL the Titans" Dr. Light probably belongs in Herald.

Properly constrained either one could be OK, but we should figure this sort of stuff out sooner rather than later.

Originally posted by Laminator_X
I seem to recall Evangel94 saying you had to wait until after the drafting was over to switch picks that aren't disqualified.

Sounds like a good choice to me though.
I don't think he said anything of the sort.

She did say that

Originally posted by King Kandy
I don't think he said anything of the sort.

It's easy to miss a post here or there in the midst of everything.
Nonetheless:

Originally posted by Evangel94
Let me make this clear to everyone,

No one can change their choices until the confirmation thread. I've been getting alot of PM's asking if they could change.

You can't change anything until everyone has gotten a chance to pick their whole team. It would unfair and very hard to keep track of 7 or so people wanting to change their choice 2 or three times.

This is a draft. Make your first choice count. Then later you can change if you wish.

If nobody else picks Vision you'll be fine.

damn...i am so late. neway, my picks are

1) Aurora, pre-children

2) Threnody

^will have bios later

Originally posted by stormfront13
damn...i am so late. neway, my picks are

1) Aurora, pre-children

2) Threnody

^will have bios later

Which Talisman you picking from the Heald draft BTW?

Originally posted by stormfront13
damn...i am so late. neway, my picks are

1) Aurora, pre-children

2) Threnody

^will have bios later

I'm guessing that's Threnody with her own powers, not the powers of every hero who has ever come back from the dead. I like Threnody.

I thought I pinned this.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Joke, man, joke.

Seriously. I'll take basic Mar-Vell. ... he fought with Thanos, a lot...

I checked with Evangel94, Iceman is limited to what he can do. He isnt allowed to be "all out". I checked and double checked just to make sure.

Originally posted by Evangel94
Extremis Iron Man is low herald level power wise and herald level prep wise.

You can use regular Pre-Extremis Iron Man as enhanced meta if you wish.

Dr. Doom is herald level because of his intelligence and tech.




If Doom is herald level because of his Int/Tech wouldn't Reed be herald level also? Being that his Int/Tech is at a higher level than even Doom.

Originally posted by Tony Stark
If Doom is herald level because of his Int/Tech wouldn't Reed be herald level also? Being that his Int/Tech is at a higher level than even Doom.

It's because Doom and Tony wear a suit of armor that provides them extra combat potential along with their intellect. Reed doesn't. Usually Doom has some sort of device that always give him the extra edge.

Reed is just stretchy without his intellect and prep-time at work. Although he may come up with something during the battle if given the chance. Reed is meta on average. But since he was picked for this category, he will have to be held on until the confirmation thread.

We are looking at combat potential limited by the rules for you choices.

Originally posted by stormfront13
damn...i am so late. neway, my picks are

1) Aurora, pre-children

2) Threnody

^will have bios later

Seriousely, you are fully capable of posting links with your characters. Anyone who CAN"T post links (that's like 2 people in this tournament) can and will send me them in a PM.

ANYONE who has not posted links with their characters has their choices invalidated until they post links. That means picks can be stolen by people WITH links to a bio.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Joke, man, joke.

Seriously. I'll take basic Mar-Vell.

Seriously stop making choices that you know don't fit into this category. Were you hoping no one would object so you could away with it? Don't make this difficult and just pick your enhanced meta choices.

Also your choice is invalid without links. Either have a non-wikipedia bio or no go.


EDIT:!
With regards to iceman. As laminator X put it, this is "Slide around and make cold and ice" Iceman. At a level where he first joined the X-Men which should be fine

Originally posted by Tony Stark
Since EXTREMIS and Doom are concidered Herald level I will go with:

Count Nefaria http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Count_Nefaria

Count Nefaria is Herald Level.

The limit on this category is Jean Grey (pre-phoenix), She-Hulk, Colossus, and War Machine. When picking your choices, think to yourself can either of these three stand a chance against my choice? If not, then your choice doesn't fit into this category.

EDIT: I do not want wikipedia links in this tournament. They have to be from a website where the user doesn't have the ability to edit the information.

More detailed link and scan:

http://www.classicmarvel.com/cast/war_machine3.htm

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v439/SCGhost05/WarMachine.jpg

Here are some better links for Temugin (It's amazing. When I spell his name like Mike Grell did, I find all kinds of stuff )

Cool Pic and Biography

MarvelDatabase writeup

OK, just a heads up for everyone. This is the herald level list. A " - " in front of the character means a link was provided. I didn't count wiki linnks cause evangel said you need another source.

(my link by the way: http://www.classicmarvel.com/cast/morg.htm )

Typhus
-Morg

stormfront13
Talisman

Loot
-Silver Surfer

King Kandy
-Regular Genis-Vell

Laminator_X
Protege

Tony Stark
The Fallen One

StarsNeverFall7
-Thor

TricksterPriest
Apocalypse

Jasofisc
Hal Jordan

hulk10
Black Bolt

Roldz
Blue Superman

B dot Rob
Super Sonic (archie comics)

Scoobless
-Quasar

Originally posted by Loot

But i understant why scoob choose it, i mean people were putting magneto, mar-vell, graviton, count nefaria, super skrull.

I continue to stand by Super-Skrull. He is not in the same league as Count Nerfaria and Graviton. He is on par with Iron-Man.

I also think Mar-Vell is OK. Yeah, he fought Thanos, but who hasn't? Mar-Vell was (again) about on par with Iron-Man.

Originally posted by Evangel94

Super Skrull, regardless of what the handbook says, is around 50 tons at most. His level of mastery of his powers are no where near the level each individual has over theirs. Plus he doesn't get his power boosting ability, so his powers stay at the level when the fantastic four first got their powers.


Sort of. He is "Rocky Thing"-like not "Lumpy-Thing"-like. He also has Sue's force-field power, which she didn't originally have either.

Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
Mr Sinister
Stryfe (sex)

Sorry, but you missed the deadline to sign-up. It wouldn't be fair to everyone else who signed up on time if I let you in. But you can stand-by as an alternate if you wish.

OK, I think i got all the current choices for e-meta (a lot of things were over the limit and what not so I'm not 100% sure.) To my knowledge, the list is as follows (again, " - " means a VALID link was provided, no wiki)

Typhus
-War Machine (Parnell Jacobs w/exo skeleton)
-Tempest (from the Exemplars)

stormfront13
Aurora (pre-children)
Threnody

Loot
-Invisable Woman
-Spawn

King Kandy



Laminator_X
-Super Skrull
-Temugin (Mandarin II)

Tony Stark
Iron Man (pre-EXTREMIS)


StarsNeverFall7
-Cable (with TO virus)
-Iceman

TricksterPriest
Violator


Jasofisc
Reed Richards
Steel

hulk10
-Colossus
-Sasquatch

Roldz
Dane
Spartan (w/void enhancement)

B dot Rob
Aquaman (waterbearer hand)
Sand

Scoobless
-Mimic (exiles)

(And no link means your choice is up for grabs to whoever hasn't picked according to Evangel, just a reminder)

bios



Aquaman

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aquaman

Sand

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sand_%28comics%29


and I can't really find a good Archie Super Sonic bio (his page was edited) but here's a general bio of Super Sonic

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Super_Sonic

Originally posted by Evangel94
Dr. Light seems herald level to me, so I'm ruling no on him for this level.

Magneto is Herald level. Graviton and Count Nefaria are Herald level.

Super Skrull, regardless of what the handbook says, is around 50 tons at most. His level of mastery of his powers are no where near the level each individual has over theirs. Plus he doesn't get his power boosting ability, so his powers stay at the level when the fantastic four first got their powers.

He may have the fantasic four's powers but he can't control it as well as each individual of the fantastic four can.

I see someone hasn't been reading Annihilation .... the guy is far more powerful and more proficient with his powers than you seem to realise.

Sorry, B dot Rob, but evangel said wiki's don't count.

Originally posted by Scoobless
I see someone hasn't been reading Annihilation .... the guy is far more powerful and more proficient with his powers than you seem to realise.

Well if you object and provide sufficent evidence (ie scans) then I may remove him from the list. Otherwise my ruling stands.

Originally posted by Typhus

Typhus
-War Machine (Parnell Jacobs w/exo skeleton)
-Tempest (from the Exemplars)

Tempest is Thor level
Originally posted by Typhus
Roldz
Dane
Spartan (w/void enhancement)

B dot Rob
Aquaman (waterbearer hand)
Sand

Spartan is on Superman level

Aquaman with magic hand is above the level caps as well

Aquaman with magic hand is above the level caps as well

Explain instead of just posting Aquaman is above level caps because I say so.

Talisman

http://alphanex.alphaflight.net/index.php/Talisman

Aurora

http://alphanex.alphaflight.net/index.php/Aurora

Threnody

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Threnody_%28comics%29

Wow that sucks anyway


Aquaman
http://www.comixfan.com/xfan/forums/showthread.php?t=27035

Sand
http://www.mykey3000.com/cosmicteams/profiles/sandman.html

Super Sonic
http://www.summerofsonic.com/articles/29/

Same rules hold true to Archie Super Sonic
Fast
Invulnerable
Strong

Aurora just recently got pimped out by infonet-Cable

Originally posted by B dot Rob
Aurora just recently got pimped out by infonet-Cable

what do you mean? when did this happen?

Adjectiveless 190 or 191

wait that was Northstar that got pimped :/

Originally posted by stormfront13
Talisman

http://alphanex.alphaflight.net/index.php/Talisman

Aurora

http://alphanex.alphaflight.net/index.php/Aurora

Threnody

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Threnody_%28comics%29

Aurora and Threnody are no longer fit for enhanced meta.

They seem Herald level. The cap for this level is WARMACHINE(tech versatility and weapons)/COLOSSUS(strength)/JEAN PRE-PHOENIX (TK and Telepathy).

If any of your guys pass these levels, then they are not allowed in enhanced meta.

Originally posted by B dot Rob
Adjectiveless 190 or 191

wait that was Northstar that got pimped :/

and that was also, the children's doing. i picked pre-children

Talisman is now banned because she can summon the spirit of death to kill you on the spot. And as you all know I don't allow one hit death kills.

Stormfront13 you must re-choose all your picks. AND please keep them within the specified levels.

...

Ok... if Light is out I'll take Radioactive Man.

Fixed:

http://www.marvel.com/universe/Radioactive_Man_%28Chen_Lu%29

Originally posted by Scoobless
Ok... if Light is out I'll take Radioactive Man.

http://www.marvel.com/universe/Radioactive_Man_(Chen_Lu)

Good pick! I almost went with Dr. Chen.

Uh... Threnody's basically untouchable...

"Threnody seemed able to not only absorb death energy and pain, but also natural energy, such as heat, electricity, lasers, and such. she was also shown absorbing the energy from bullets, absorbing all their kinetic energy before they pierced her skin, so they would just fall. she was also seen absorbing telekinetic energy, telepathic energy, and all sorts of energy from the E.M energy with great success. Her telepathic absorbation is so great, that the combined efforts of madelyne prior and selene were not able to get past her defenses, and both failed to shut down her mind or control her because she just absorbed their telepatic energy."

Not even gonna mention the uber zombies and 'use any dead guys powers' thing...

Originally posted by Scoobless
Ok... if Light is out I'll take Radioactive Man.

http://www.marvel.com/universe/Radioactive_Man_(Chen_Lu)

Hmmm ... the link doesn't seem to be working even though the page is there ...

http://www.marveldatabase.com/Radioactive_Man

http://www.marvel.com/universe/Radioactive_Man_Chen_Lu

http://www.marvel.com/universe/Radioactive_Man_%28Chen_Lu%29

Radioactive man ain't happening. Also those links aren't valid. They can be edited and changed.

EDIT: And according to that link

And according to the link Radioactive man can form powerful forcefields (enough to withstand hits from Mjolnir)

Originally posted by Evangel94
Radioactive man ain't happening. Also those links aren't valid. They can be edited and changed.

EDIT: And according to that link

he can form powerful forcefields (enough to withstand hits from Mjolnir)

He's far less powerful than Super Skrull and aa few other picks here ... classic Iron Man beat him a few times ... what's the problem?

And I fixed the link.

Originally posted by Evangel94
And according to the link Radioactive man can form powerful forcefields (enough to withstand hits from Mjolnir)

So can Invisible Woman ... and probably Super Skrull

Originally posted by Scoobless
He's far less powerful than Super Skrull and aa few other picks here ... classic Iron Man beat him a few times ... what's the problem?

And I fixed the link.



So can Invisible Woman ... and probably Super Skrull

Invisible Woman's shields won't be standing up to many full-force Mjolnir impacts.

Originally posted by Scoobless
He's far less powerful than Super Skrull and aa few other picks here ... classic Iron Man beat him a few times ... what's the problem?


So can Invisible Woman ... and probably Super Skrull

Super Skrull at his "classic" "first appreance" levels is fine.

My ruling stands regarding radioactive man. Please pick someone else.

ffs

Originally posted by Scoobless
ffs

Agreed.

Yeah, I looked up some more stuff on her, and Tempest stood up to Thor. In that case, in her stead I choose Emma Frost:
http://www.classicmarvel.com/cast/emma_frost.htm

Originally posted by Scoobless
ffs

whats does ffs means?

Originally posted by Loot
whats does ffs means?

For F*cks Sake.

I figured the brood would get shut down. I had to see if you'd actually let me have a brood queen. I'll go with my 2nd pick, Omega Red. With Carbonadium synthesizer.

Originally posted by Roldz
Damn am always to late...

Dane http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dane_%28Wildstorm%29
Spartan w/void enhancement http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spartan_%28comics%29
So my pick still a go or do i have change im..
Ohh i think Dane is a meta level not enhance, just want to see what Evangel94's though about this... If he is id like to change em, wanna pick someone a little more above...

Originally posted by Roldz
So my pick still a go or do i have change im..
Ohh i think Dane is a meta level not enhance, just want to see what Evangel94's though about this... If he is id like to change em, wanna pick someone a little more above...

Spartan? With Void enhancements??

From your own link (emphasis mine):


Seriously?

Although, if you think Spartan's OK for this class I can see where you'd think Dane (brick power set + Marvel-Girl power set) belongs in the next one down.

But you're wrong.

So his a go then ...
How bout Dane is he meta or enhance meta.. I for one thinks his only meta, his nowhere close to Rachel/Jean.. He even lost Jackson of Stormwatch....

um....okay ev...i guess that's cool, i can see threnody and talisman, but why Aurora? you have guys in the enhanced meta like invisible woman, super Skrull, and radioactive man, she fits in fine. so for my picks are

Herald: Threnody

Enhanced Meta: Mimic

Here's my new line up then..
Grail Ill post link later
Dane/polaris Depends what people think of Dane i want to pick him in the meta categories..

Originally posted by Roldz
Damn am always to late...

Dane http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dane_%28Wildstorm%29
Spartan w/void enhancement http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spartan_%28comics%29

Dane seems ok. If I had to make a comparison, he seems to be like colossus with soldier experience, and basic telepathic & telekinesis abilities. Can I be assured this is how the character is?

Your not getting Spartan with void enhancement. And since this guy is an obscure character I'd rather you not pick and choose his power so he can fit into this category. Please re-choose.

I think Dane is below enhance meta, what do you think i just down want to pick someone below the categories.. His nowhere close to collussos strength... His got no physical strength feat..

Originally posted by Roldz
Here's my new line up then..
Grail Ill post link later
Dane/polaris Depends what people think of Dane i want to pick him in the meta categories..

Listen...this goes out to EVERYONE.

When you post your choice, always post a link with your choice or it is invalid.

Also if you post a wikipedia bio for your character, you better also have a second non-wikipedia website for their bio as well or your choice is also invalid.

I'm not going to run around the internet trying look up each character for almost 13 people. If I don't know your character well enough, it is your job to prove to me who this character is and what they can do.

for my second Enhaned Meta pick, i'll choose Miss. martian

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_Martian#Powers

Originally posted by Roldz
I think Dane is below enhance meta, what do you think i just down want to pick someone below the categories.. His nowhere close to collussos strength... His got no physical strength feat..
Yah its why i said id post the link to grail later im at work right now..
But in regards to dane there a link in there.. I just want to know if his below enhance in you view.. FYI his nowhere close to Durability or strength to Collussos... TP/TK is not as high as Rachel/Jean/Emma. Even enhanced..

Originally posted by Roldz
I think Dane is below enhance meta, what do you think i just down want to pick someone below the categories.. His nowhere close to collussos strength... His got no physical strength feat..

yep but he has telepathy and telekenesis so...

Originally posted by stormfront13
for my second Enhaned Meta pick, i'll choose Miss. martian

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_Martian#Powers

Banned ... it's just a female Martian Manhunter.

Except at half power.

Originally posted by Loot
yep but he has telepathy and telekenesis so...
But nowhere as high as the 3 i mentioned above... meaning his meta, and i wnna pick him in the meta devision.. if no one beats me to it..

Originally posted by Scoobless
Banned ... it's just a female Martian Manhunter.

actually she's not, she only has about 50-30% of his power levels, plus she has other powers as well, besides, she's half white martian

and here's the bio for mimic as well as Threnody. Please take notice that threnody's bio is very outdated, but this is the only one i could find on her. since the site has been updated, threnody's powers have expanded, and she's gained a secondary mutation.

http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/characters/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=712

http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/characters/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=1064

Originally posted by B dot Rob
Except at half power.

Half a Manhunter >>> Iron Man/War Machine

Originally posted by stormfront13
um....okay ev...i guess that's cool, i can see threnody and talisman, but why Aurora? you have guys in the enhanced meta like invisible woman, super Skrull, and radioactive man, she fits in fine. so for my picks are

Herald: Threnody

Enhanced Meta: Mimic

If you use threnody, then you can't use the powers of deceased superhumans and you cannot wield any of their powers whatsoever.

Originally posted by Evangel94
If you use threnody, then you can't use the powers of deceased superhumans and you cannot wield any of their powers whatsoever.

why? then she's not a herald leveler. could i just have talisman w/out the death spirit then?

Originally posted by stormfront13
actually she's not, she only has about 50-30% of his power levels, plus she has other powers as well, besides, she's half white martian
Where are people getting this percentage figures from? Her power level wasn't even specified.

Originally posted by Scoobless
Half a Manhunter >>> Iron Man/War Machine

she's not even at half. she's anywhere from 30 to 40%. she's not a true martian like him