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You MUST have the names and links of everyone on your team so far! Without links, your picks are still up for grabs. Wikipedia links are not allowed. If you attempt to use them to draft a character, your character is still up from grabs.

Anyone who hasn't picked a characters for the other levels yet is not allowed to draft.

Begin Drafting

Herald Level Draft: Thor

http://www.marvel.com/universe/Thor_

Enhanced Meta Draft: Cable and Iceman

Cable:http://www.marvel.com/universe/Cable

Iceman:http://www.marvel.com/universe/Iceman

Mutant Level Draft: Spider-Man and Deadpool

Spiderman

http://www.marvel.com/universe/Spiderman

Deadpool

http://www.marvel.com/universe/Deadpool

Human Level Draft: Batman and Batgirl

Batman

http://www.legionsofgotham.org/BIOSbatman.html

Batgirl 2

http://www.legionsofgotham.org/BIOSbatgirl.html

-Morg
http://www.classicmarvel.com/cast/morg.htm

-War Machine (Parnell Jacobs)
http://www.classicmarvel.com/cast/war_machine3.htm
-Emma Frost (White Queen)
http://www.classicmarvel.com/cast/emma_frost.htm

-Carnage
http://www.marvel.com/universe/Carnage_%28Cletus_Kasady%29
-Agent X
http://www.marvel.com/universe/Agent_X_%28Nijo%29

-Classic Deathstroke the Terminator (before becoming immortal)
http://www.titanstower.com/source/whoswho/deathstroke.html
-Boba Fett
http://members.shaw.ca/david.p.z.888/star_wars/boba_fett.html

Captain America http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/c/captainamerica.htm

Black Panther http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/b/blackpanther.htm

Black Bolt http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/b/blackbolt.htm

Madam Medusa http://www.marvel.com/universe/Medusa

Mr. Fantastic http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/m/mrfantastic.htm

Sasaquatch http://www.marvel.com/universe/Sasquatch_(Walter_Langkowski)

Colossus http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/c/colossus.htm

Time to show some love to DC!

I'm picking Deadshot & Ra's al Ghul

Deadshot bio
The Secret Six Sharp Shooter. He's like Bullseye, only with Guns!

Ra's Bio
Everyone's favorite eternal manipulator and master swordsman. Bonus points for having stolen Batman's Anti-JLA plans. He probably read his mail too.

Originally posted by Laminator_X
Recap:

My Herald Level pick- Protege, the GotG foe.
There's no fansite with a bio up that I can find, but in a thread on the Image Comics boards creator/writer Jim Valentino himself posts a synopsis and pictures of the relevant issues. I would hope that (along with scans) would be sufficiently authorative. (so to speak) If there were characters above Herald Level around, the Protege could break the power caps. Since there aren't, he's effectively capped there too. He will actually start each bout at around Enhanced Meta level.

Enhanced-Meta Level:

The Super-Skrull in all his badass shape-shifting FFish brutality. Power Levels are at 60's FF scale and no booster beam. Evengel94 calls his strength at ~50tons. While he has more experience than he did in his first appearance, he's not as good at using his powers as the FF are. Use of his Hypnosis power will be severely limited limited by rules 2 and 8.

Temugin, the son of the Mandarin. His father's Marvel Bio has a list of the rings. Certain uses of the which would be curtailed by rules 2,3,4, and 11; of course. (Supplimentary wikki link)

Fixer

Here are a Bio and a pretty thorough Character History for the Fixer. While he will be packing his usual tech-pak & weaponry, this is not the robot Techno form, which would of course be in a higher power class.

Ecstasy
Here's a directory link for Ecstasy. For those unfamiliar, she's essentially a French Cloak knock-off.

Originally posted by Laminator_X
Time to show some love to DC!

I'm picking Deadshot & Ra's al Ghul

Deadshot bio
The Secret Six Sharp Shooter. He's like Bullseye, only with Guns!

Ra's Bio
Everyone's favorite eternal manipulator and master swordsman. Bonus points for having stolen Batman's Anti-JLA plans. He probably read his mail too.

Please post in the same format Starsneverfall7 and Typhus did.

Originally posted by hulk10
Captain Americahttp://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/c/captainamerica.htm

Black Panther http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/b/blackpanther.htm

Post your FULL team. Not just your street picks.

EDIT: I see you already edited it.

evangel, what about the people who posted their team, and never got a clarification like scoobless and myself? anyway, if i can still post, i'll do so.

Herald: Goddess Storm
Enhanced Meta: Mimic, and Miss Martian
meta: Vixen, and Zero
Human: CLASSIC Gamora, and Daredevil

http://www.titanstower.com/source/whoswho/missmartian.html
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/characters/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=712
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/characters/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=1183
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/spotlight/showquestion.asp?faq=10&fldAuto=76&page=12
http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/d/daredevil.htm
http://www.marvel.com/universe3zx/index.php?title=Gamora&printable=yes&printable=yes
http://www.answers.com/topic/vixen-comics

Originally posted by stormfront13
evangel, what about the people who posted their team, and never got a clarification like scoobless and myself? anyway, if i can still post, i'll do so.

Herald: Goddess Storm
Enhanced Meta: Mimic, and Miss Martian
meta: Vixen, and Zero
Human: CLASSIC Gamora, and Daredevil

http://www.titanstower.com/source/whoswho/missmartian.html
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/characters/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=712
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/characters/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=1183
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/spotlight/showquestion.asp?faq=10&fldAuto=76&page=12
http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/d/daredevil.htm
http://www.marvel.com/universe3zx/index.php?title=Gamora&printable=yes&printable=yes
http://www.answers.com/topic/vixen-comics

I DON'T allow changes UNTIL the confirmation thread.

Since when did I allow you to change from "Threnody" to "GODDESS STORM"?

I clearly stated no changes until the confirmation thread unless I disagree with your choice.

And I said you can't have Miss Martian.

Until you clear your choices with me, you can't draft in this thread. Your street choices are still up for grabs.

Street Level:.

Deadshot http://www.angelfire.com/ar/hellUSA/Deadshot.htm

Ra's al Ghul http://www.legionsofgotham.org/BIOSrasalghul.html


Herald Level:

Protege http://www.imagecomics.com/messageboard/viewtopic.php?p=29371#29371

Enhanced-Meta Level:

The Super-Skrull http://www.marvel.com/universe/Super-Skrull

Temugin http://www.leaderslair.com/marvelvillains/temugin.html

Meta Level:

Fixer http://www.geocities.com/marvel_terror/fixer/fixer.html

Ecstasy http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/e/ecstasy.htm

By the by, 70's Gamora was cybered out and had the death-dagger. She's Meta-level.

Herald

Silver Surfer-(http://www.marveldatabase.com/Silver_Surfer_%28Norrin_Radd%29)

Enhanced meta:

Invisible Woman (http://www.marveldirectory.com/indi...isiblewoman.htm)

Spawn (http://www.classicmarvel.com/cast/spawn.htm)


Meta:

Nightcrawler, with blades aoa style (http://www.marveldatabase.com/Nightcrawler_%28Kurt_Wagner%29)

Quicksilver (http://www.classicmarvel.com/cast/quicksilver.htm)


Street:

-taskmaster (http://www.classicmarvel.com/cast/taskmaster.htm)

-black panther (Tchaka) - i didn´t find a bio, but he´s pretty much like the current black panter, can i have him?

Herald level: Apocalypse http://www.marvel.com/universe/Apoc...En_Sabah_Nur%29

Enhanced Meta level: Violator & Omega Red (W/e Carbonadium synthesizer) http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/v/violator.htm
http://www.marveldirectory.com/indi.../o/omegared.htm

Meta: Death Gambit (Horseman version) & Venom (Mac Gargan).
http://www.marvel.com/universe/Venom
http://www.marvel.com/universe/Gambit

Street level picks: Taskmaster & Prometheus (DC comics character, not Marvel one). I apologize for using Wiki for Prometheus.

http://marvel.com/universe/Taskmaster
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prometheus_(comics)

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Herald level: Apocalypse http://www.marvel.com/universe/Apoc...En_Sabah_Nur%29

Enhanced Meta level: Violator & Omega Red (W/e Carbonadium synthesizer) http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/v/violator.htm
http://www.marveldirectory.com/indi.../o/omegared.htm

Meta: Death Gambit (Horseman version) & Venom (Mac Gargan).
http://www.marvel.com/universe/Venom
http://www.marvel.com/universe/Gambit

Street level picks: Taskmaster & Prometheus (DC comics character, not Marvel one). I apologize for using Wiki for Prometheus.

http://marvel.com/universe/Taskmaster
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prometheus_(comics)

Taskmaster was taken.

Shit. Ok. Crossbones then.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossbones_(comics)

Once again as said don't use wikipedia links.

Ok. Found a better one.
http://www.marvel.com/universe/Crossbones

How's that?

Daredevil:http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/d/daredevil.htm

Rorschach:http://www.answers.com/topic/rorschach-comics

This is amusing. Wiki links all over the place. Trying to sneak people in....

My commendations to Evangel though, for bringing the hammer down and not allowing any tomfoolery to take place (at least as much as possible).

then Ev, what's my team. your not letting me post picks until i have a team set, BUT I HAVE NO TEAM WHATSOEVER, I POST MY PICKS AND YOU SAY WAIT UNTIL CONFIRMATION DRAFT, BUT WHEN I POST THE PERSON YOU SAID WASN;T ALLOWED, AS IN ORIGINAL, YOU SAY NO AND THAT I CAN'T POST UNTIL I HAVE A TEAM SET BUT YOU WON'T LET ME HAVE A TEAM!

Stop being a n00b. Just make picks after you check to see that they conform to the rules and aren't already taken. The picks are FINALIZED in the confirmation section. You can make any team you want, it's just not set until the confirmation thread, when everyone gets a chance to debate and argue whether someone is rigged, etc.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Stop being a n00b. Just make picks after you check to see that they conform to the rules and aren't already taken. The picks are FINALIZED in the confirmation section. You can make any team you want, it's just not set until the confirmation thread, when everyone gets a chance to debate and argue whether someone is rigged, etc.

funny...you callin me a noob. neway, i don't have a team, Ev has said no to my picks, and never answered to the last one i chose, so in essence, i don't have a team., now she says that i can't pick until i have a team, but i don't have one.

okay Ev, i'll try this again. i have no idea what team your talking about so......here's my guess.

Herald:Threnody
Enhanced Meta:Mimic, Miss. Martian(i know she's a no, so i'll switch her in the confirmation thread)
Meta: Vixen, Zero
Street: CLASSIC Gamora, Daredevil

http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/characters/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=1064
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/characters/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=712
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/characters/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=1183http://www.marvel.com/universe3zx/index.php?title=Gamora&printable=yes&printable=yes
http://www.marvel.com/universe/Daredevil_(Matthew_Murdock)
http://www.answers.com/topic/vixen-comics

Originally posted by hulk10
Captain America http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/c/captainamerica.htm

Black Panther http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/b/blackpanther.htm

Black Bolt http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/b/blackbolt.htm

Madam Medusa http://www.marvel.com/universe/Medusa

Mr. Fantastic http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/m/mrfantastic.htm

Sasaquatch http://www.marvel.com/universe/Sasquatch_(Walter_Langkowski)

Colossus http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/c/colossus.htm

black panther was choosen by tony stark in the meta level

Baron Zemo (Helmut)
http://marvel.com/universe/Baron_Zemo_%28Helmut_Zemo%29

And

Ultimate Black Widow
http://marvel.com/universe/Black_Widow_%28Ultimate%29

Hey storm, Threnody and Zero were both banned. No one hit kills.

Tony Stark's TEAM

Herald Level
The Fallen One

Enhanced Meta Level
Pre-Extremis Iron Man
Atlas

Meta Level
New Avengers Luke Cage
Current Black Panther

Street Level
Baron Zemo (Helmut)
Ultimate Black Widow

I dunno about Baron Zemo. Helmut's a little too powerful for street with the moonstones. Without them, I think it's a good pick.

Super Sonic
http://www.summerofsonic.com/articles/29/

Aquaman
http://www.comixfan.com/xfan/forums...ead.php?t=27035

Sand
http://www.mykey3000.com/cosmicteam...es/sandman.html

Cloak
http://marveldirectory.com/individuals/c/cloak.htm

Dagger
http://marveldirectory.com/individuals/d/dagger.htm

Ultimate Captain America

http://www.answers.com/topic/captain-america

Ultimate Spiderman

http://www.answers.com/topic/spiderman

Karnak not getting picked?

Iron Fist not getting picked?

.

I wanted Iron Fist, but that whole "one female per team" thing really threw me off because I completely spaced up until street level.

Azrael
Karnak..
Ill post the link tommorrow its getting a little late...

Originally posted by stormfront13
okay Ev, i'll try this again. i have no idea what team your talking about so......here's my guess.

Herald:Threnody
Enhanced Meta:Mimic, Miss. Martian(i know she's a no, so i'll switch her in the confirmation thread)
Meta: Vixen, Zero
Street: CLASSIC Gamora, Daredevil

http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/characters/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=1064
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/characters/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=712
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/characters/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=1183http://www.marvel.com/universe3zx/index.php?title=Gamora&printable=yes&printable=yes
http://www.marvel.com/universe/Daredevil_(Matthew_Murdock)
http://www.answers.com/topic/vixen-comics

Change Miss. Martian Now so we don't have to waste time in the confirmation thread. Also orgranize your links under your characters! Follow the format everyone else is doing. All you needed to do was clear you enhanced meta and meta levels with me first before drafting for street.


Also to Trickster priest, I banned Talisman, not Threnody if I recall.

And people, NO wikipedia links.

EDIT: It appears that King Kandy also took Daredevil away from Stormfront13.

B dot Rob, you want Ultimate Spiderman as Street? He's not as powerful as 616 Spidey, but he beat up hobgoblin (who in the ultimate universe is a huge fire breathing hulk wannabe) with nothing but his bare fists and a streetlamp if I remember correctly. He's got all the same powers and abilities as the real spidey too.

Originally posted by Soljer
Karnak not getting picked?

Iron Fist not getting picked?

.

Iron fist was taken in the meta level by someone

Originally posted by Loot
Herald

Silver Surfer-(http://www.marveldatabase.com/Silver_Surfer_%28Norrin_Radd%29)

Enhanced meta:

Invisible Woman (http://www.marveldirectory.com/indi...isiblewoman.htm)

Spawn (http://www.classicmarvel.com/cast/spawn.htm)


Meta:

Nightcrawler, with blades aoa style (http://www.marveldatabase.com/Nightcrawler_%28Kurt_Wagner%29)

Quicksilver (http://www.classicmarvel.com/cast/quicksilver.htm)


Street:

-taskmaster (http://www.classicmarvel.com/cast/taskmaster.htm)

-black panther (Tchaka) - i didn´t find a bio, but he´s pretty much like the current black panter, can i have him? Loot I already have Black Panther so you'll have to pick another street level.

Originally posted by hulk10
Loot I already have Black Panther so you'll have to pick another street level.






Actually I already have Black Panther... He's off the books...You need to pick another.

No I picked Panther on the very first page before you go check.

Originally posted by hulk10
No I picked Panther on the very first page before you go check.


Originally posted by Loot

And current black panther was already taken in the meta level, check it out, you need to re-choose

he was choosen in META LEVEL, not in street level, you have to pay more attention

Loot,Evangle94 told me to ask you who picked Panther on Meta and that Panther was Street.

While a then I'll tell Stark that Evangle94 said that Panther is Street.

I just sent him a PM.

Originally posted by stormfront13
yes, and when i switched Miss. Martian, Ev said that i had to wait until confirmation thread to switch characters, and that i can't post my street picks until I have a team, but she won't let me switch my team now, so I'm stuck.

pm evangel with your picks, but make it fair picks, and then choose your street characters

No, when you switched Threnody for Goddess Storm she said you can't switch until the confirmation thread. She TOLD you to pick people who fit the power guidelines, ie, not martian. So yes you can switch MM, you just can't go switching your herald level until the next thread.

I could see Panther in his Vibranium-mesh armor with an arsenal of Wakandan super-tech as meta.

Without those, he's street.

Originally posted by Typhus
No, when you switched Threnody for Goddess Storm she said you can't switch until the confirmation thread. She TOLD you to pick people who fit the power guidelines, ie, not martian. So yes you can switch MM, you just can't go switching your herald level until the next thread.

1) go up and see my last team post. it had Miss Martian in it, and i said that i was going to switch her for someone else because when i switched her the first time, Evangel said this

" And I said you can't have Miss Martian. ."
and
" I DON'T allow changes UNTIL the confirmation thread."

2) i'll try this again Ev

Herald: Threnody
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/characters/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=1064

E.Meta: Mimic, and *Blink(Switched for martian)
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/characters/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=712
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/characters/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=1497

Meta:Vixen, Zero
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/characters/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=1183
http://www.answers.com/topic/vixen-comics

Street:Echo, CLASSIC Gamora
http://www.marvel.com/universe/Echo_(Maya_Lopez)

http://www.marvel.com/universe/Gamora

Loot, Evangel never said no to either Blink or Zero, besides, you do realize that that isn't what Zero does to people, and that Cloak, who was allowed, is a mix of both Blink and Zero

It's conceivable that they'd be permitted if their powers were not allowed to be used for insta-kill attacks. Also, the section of the rules that described the field of battle stated that "battlefield removal is non-existent," or something similar.

There're still plenty of useful things those characters could do, even if death-rays and BFR are taken off the table.

The crucial difference betwean Blink and Cloak is that his life-drain takes time, during which a character could be rescued or someone with the right powerset could escape. Whereas having a rock teleported into one's cranium is instant death for almost everybody.

Originally posted by stormfront13
1) go up and see my last team post. it had Miss Martian in it, and i said that i was going to switch her for someone else because when i switched her the first time, Evangel said this

" And I said you can't have Miss Martian. ."
and
" I DON'T allow changes UNTIL the confirmation thread."

2) i'll try this again Ev

Herald: Threnody
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/characters/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=1064

E.Meta: Mimic, and *Blink(Switched for martian)
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/characters/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=712
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/characters/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=1497

Meta:Vixen, Zero
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/characters/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=1183
http://www.answers.com/topic/vixen-comics

Street:Echo, CLASSIC Gamora
http://www.marvel.com/universe/Echo_(Maya_Lopez)

http://www.marvel.com/universe/Gamora

I'm not going to allow portals or teleportation for anything below herald. Blink and Zero are hereby not allowed under authority of Evangel94. I don't approve of Blink's javelin power that teleports part of a person away. I also don't approve of zero's teleportation power....esp under meta. Please re-choose.

Herald:

Quasar

Enhanced:

Mimic (Exiles)

Guardian

Meta:

Marvel Boy

M (Monet St. Croix)

Man ... I miss one night of KMC fun and most of my top 5 choices for street level are gone ....

Ult Cap is beyond street level by the way.

Anyway ...

Street Level:

Hawkeye

Ultimate Hawkeye

Older members may have seen that one coming.

Originally posted by Evangel94
I'm not going to allow portals or teleportation for anything below herald. ...

Gah! That would've been nice to know in advance.

By a quick count we've got 5 teleporters in the Meta and E-Meta categories, without Blink or Zero being counted. Do we all need to re-choose?

Originally posted by Laminator_X
Gah! That would've been nice to know in advance.

By a quick count we've got 5 teleporters in the Meta and E-Meta categories, without Blink or Zero being counted. Do we all need to re-choose?

I retract my earlier statement about teleporters in meta and e-meta. They are fine. I just don't agree with having zero and blink.

Originally posted by Scoobless


Street Level:

Hawkeye

Ultimate Hawkeye

Older members may have seen that one coming.



Good picks.

We might need some constraints on just what weaponry they'll be packing.
Mini-nukes, Pym-particle bursts, the Ultron-Killer, and so forth are not exactly "street."

Niether is the Batkick ...

Originally posted by Scoobless
Niether is the Batkick ...



Definitely, the Batkick is Herald-level+

Originally posted by Laminator_X
We might need some constraints on just what weaponry they'll be packing.
Mini-nukes, Pym-particle bursts, the Ultron-Killer, and so forth are not exactly "street."

I can live without the nukes



You do realise someone drafted the Fixer ... that guy can create almost any weapon (or anything else) he can think of in an instant with his tech pack.

The guy should probably be in the meta class.

Originally posted by Scoobless
I can live without the nukes



You do realise someone drafted the Fixer ... that guy can create almost any weapon (or anything else) he can think of in an instant with his tech pack.

The guy should probably be in the meta class.

He is. That's exactly where I drafted him, for the reason you just stated.

Someone put Gamora as street class?

She's at least Meta.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Someone put Gamora as street class?

She's at least Meta.

Definitely. She fought alongside Adam and Thanos against the Universal Church of Truth army for a day or so straight. Starlin drew a cool pic of the three of them atop a mountain of bodies.

70's Gamora'd make a cool Meta pick as long as the death-dagger were off limits.
90's she'd be E-Meta. Current might even be Herald. I haven't read enough of Annihilation to be sure.

okay Ev, i completley understand. How bout for....

E.Meta: Witchfire: minus her demon army and matter manipulation
http://alphanex.alphaflight.net/index.php/Witchfire


Meta: Prysm
http://www.titanstower.com/source/whoswho/prysm.html

Originally posted by Laminator_X
Definitely. She fought alongside Adam and Thanos against the Universal Church of Truth army for a day or so straight. Starlin drew a cool pic of the three of them atop a mountain of bodies.

70's Gamora'd make a cool Meta pick as long as the death-dagger were off limits.
90's she'd be E-Meta. Current might even be Herald. I haven't read enough of Annihilation to be sure.

i put classic Gamora, when she didn't have any super strength or anything like that, she relied on just her fighting skills

Originally posted by stormfront13
i put classic Gamora, when she didn't have any super strength or anything like that, she relied on just her fighting skills
She was always enhanced past normal human strength. Thanos said he'd enhanced her sences and abilities.

Also, she fended off (With two other guy helping) 25,000 Black Knights!

Originally posted by King Kandy
She was always enhanced past normal human strength. Thanos said he'd enhanced her sences and abilities.

Also, she fended off (With two other guy helping) 25,000 Black Knights!

until recently, Marvel considered her Street-level

Originally posted by stormfront13
i put classic Gamora, when she didn't have any super strength or anything like that, she relied on just her fighting skills

That's what I'm saying. She was full of implants and such. It's stated explicitly in the Infinity Watch issue where she has flashbacks to her childhood with Thanos. After she snuck off to go exploring and was gang-raped and left for dead, Thanos rebuilt her all-superfied. That's how she fought the UTC army for so long without just collapsing, among other things.

Originally posted by Laminator_X
That's what I'm saying. She was full of implants and such. It's stated explicitly in the Infinity Watch issue where she has flashbacks to her childhood with Thanos. After she snuck off to go exploring and was gang-raped and left for dead, Thanos rebuilt her all-superfied. That's how she fought the UTC army for so long without just collapsing, among other things.

then i'll choose Ravanger

http://www.titanstower.com/source/whoswho/rose.html

Originally posted by stormfront13
until recently, Marvel considered her Street-level
When she was revieved, she was stronger then Spider-Man.

Before that, she had enhanced senses, reflexes, speed and strength.

Originally posted by King Kandy
When she was revieved, she was stronger then Spider-Man.

Before that, she had enhanced senses, reflexes, speed and strength.

get over it...she's gone

Please, Hobgoblin was a ho and there is a number of characters in the street level that'd kick his ass.

Ult Spidey dropped a forklift on Omega Red ... he's well beyond street level

Street level = peak human or less ..... as I understand it

I have Ultimate Spider-Man 1-101... He's meta.

Originally posted by stormfront13
then i'll choose Ravanger

http://www.titanstower.com/source/whoswho/rose.html

"Rose is a skilled martial arts expert, with enhanced agility, speed, strength and endurance. She is also very skilled in the use of a bo staff."

How strong is she?

Originally posted by Scoobless
Ult Spidey dropped a forklift on Omega Red ... he's well beyond street level

Street level = peak human or less ..... as I understand it



616 Cap could do the same thing + he got manhandled by Blade and Kingpin IIRC. Not exactly meta level guy.

Originally posted by Scoobless
Ult Spidey dropped a forklift on Omega Red ... he's well beyond street level

Street level = peak human or less ..... as I understand it



exactly, peak human, and ultimate spiderman can do more then peak.

Most of the people drafted can do more then peak.

And you think that Ultimate Spidey would beat Cap?

Originally posted by B dot Rob
Most of the people drafted can do more then peak.

say who?


about cap, in a fist fight, i sure hoped so. but you will have a team to teach ultimate spiderman to attack where he should

Batman
Cassandra Cain
Captain America
Taskmaster
Black Widow

More specifically - Street = no powers

Except for passive powers like DareDevil's

Originally posted by B dot Rob
Batman
Cassandra Cain
Captain America
Taskmaster
Black Widow

batman? cap? the whole idea is that they reached human peak

Since when? You're telling me you consider people like Cypher to be above street?




Please Batman has feats that are well over peak and Cap is at least at a ton

Originally posted by B dot Rob
Since when? You're telling me you consider people like Cypher to be above street?

Originally posted by Scoobless

Except for passive powers like DareDevil's

Who is Cypher?

Mutant with the power to translate any language.

You'd consider Gambit before he got his stupid upgrade to be above street? Jubilee? The Atom? Iron Fist?

he has the power to talk in different languages

Certain types of powers (weak or not directly offensive or defensive) may be ok for this class, but nobody in this group should be able to lift a car above his head.

Cap could maybe flip a car over if he went all-out, but he couldn't pick one up.

Yes he could. And you know this.

He could and you know this.

Cars=1-2 tons. You think cap coud hold one over his head? He might be able to leg-press that much on a machine where the angles are perfect and whatnot, but that's a world of difference from actually picking up a car.

So you're telling me that even with his ability to press 2 tons on a machine he's still only a peak human?

Exactly. So I suggest people to stop the contradiction and start suggesting why Ult Spiderman, despite his consistent street level showings, isn't street outside of a vague peak human term that 90% of the people drafted are above.

Originally posted by B dot Rob
So you're telling me that even with his ability to press 2 tons on a machine he's still only a peak human?

Exactly. So I suggest people to stop the contradiction and start suggesting why Ult Spiderman, despite his consistent street level showings, isn't street outside of a vague peak human term that 90% of the people drafted are above.

Ultimate or no Ultimate I don't consider spiderman street at all. The highest strengh level for this category is Batman/Black Panther/ Captain America. "Peak Human". But I'll let you have ultimate captain america because I feel he's just a variation of the 616 character.

Everyone please stop posting here. The street draft is over. Please redirect all comments to the confirmation thread.