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In all sincerity, J'onn is probably one of the better characters in the Justice League, if not the best when it comes to writing. Not only that, but he's damn powerful too. What would it take for DC to finally push him over Superman in power, aside from their own egos?

He debatedly is already above supes.

Id have to say a speed and durability upgrade...I personally feel he should already surpass Superman, but DC doesn't. It wouldnt take much of an upgrade though...

He has always been getting toned down just because when he was made they were having fun giving him a hella lot of powers but at the end of the day they thought "wait he is stronger than superman!!!" so the higherups have made him job for 50 years.Its a sad story.

Originally posted by Howard_Jones
In all sincerity, J'onn is probably one of the better characters in the Justice League, if not the best when it comes to writing.

Seems kinda subjective, don't you think? If it were widely accepted, he'd probably be above Supes already.

Me using him in a tourney.

Originally posted by Scoobless
Me using him in a tourney.

Well your humble


MM may have alot of powers but he isn't as strong or durable as Supes. Anyways for him to be tops in DC they would have to kill off everyother JLA member. Some more JSA memebers then kill off a bunch of other people

Originally posted by Newjak
Well your humble


MM may have alot of powers but he isn't as strong or durable as Supes. Anyways for him to be tops in DC they would have to kill off everyother JLA member. Some more JSA memebers then kill off a bunch of other people

Or just turn him back into Fernus... or did they decide that Fernus was actually a separate being from MM?

shrug

Originally posted by Scoobless
Or just turn him back into Fernus... or did they decide that Fernus was actually a separate being from MM?

shrug I don't know

but I was repling both to his popularity and power and for MM's popularity to get better alot of other people have to go down.

Originally posted by Howard_Jones
In all sincerity, J'onn is probably one of the better characters in the Justice League, if not the best when it comes to writing. Not only that, but he's damn powerful too. What would it take for DC to finally push him over Superman in power, aside from their own egos? You do know Manhunter and MARTIAN Manhunter are different characters... right...?

To take the top spot in DC powerwise, MM would need more than just being above Superman.

Lose the weakness to fire, and drop Martian from his title.

LOL, yep... and maybe for the fate of Mars to happen to the majority of the Universe... I mean, MM isn't exactly on the Presence's level!

Originally posted by Super Guy
You do know Manhunter and MARTIAN Manhunter are different characters... right...?

Meh ... he said J'onn

He already have enough powers. Plus he's a shift shaper. Adding more powers would be taking J'onn out of character. He is fine as he is right now.

Originally posted by roughrider
Lose the weakness to fire. The weakness to fire has already been diminished iirc.

Originally posted by Howard_Jones
What would it take for DC to finally push him over Superman in power, aside from their own egos?

90's version mullet

uumm.........getting rid of all the people more powerful than him?

New Costume! No more "Village People" look!

In fact, something entirely different from The Standard (cape, boots, speedos...at least he has no gloves) would really make a difference in how he's perceived, IMO.

He's like the Namor of DC: underrated / underappreciated in a major way.

He just got a new look with his recent mini

Originally posted by Accel
To take the top spot in DC powerwise, MM would need more than just being above Superman.
Yeah. It's not as if Superman is actually the most powerful person in the DCU right now.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
He just got a new look with his recent mini
Cool. Anyone got scans?

J'onn needs to wear a giant S on his chest and date Lois Lane, then he'll be #1

Originally posted by Wally West
J'onn needs to wear a giant S on his chest and date Lois Lane, then he'll be #1

Nah ... he just needs pirate boots.

Originally posted by Wally West
J'onn needs to wear a giant S on his chest and date Lois Lane, then he'll be #1 Damnit!
That was my answer!

Give him some ass-less chaps, chains, and a biker hat...

Originally posted by Mindship
Cool. Anyone got scans?

http://www.dccomics.com/media/desktop_patterns/Martian_Manhunter_1_1024x768.jpg

His head design is back to Martian looking rather than human, but that pic doesn't show it well

Originally posted by King_Mungi
http://www.dccomics.com/media/desktop_patterns/Martian_Manhunter_1_1024x768.jpg

His head design is back to Martian looking rather than human, but that pic doesn't show it well

http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/3402/martianmanhunter001010xn3.th.jpg

SHOW OFF!

Originally posted by Wally West
J'onn needs to wear a giant S on his chest and date Lois Lane, then he'll be #1

That's definately the way it seems.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
http://www.dccomics.com/media/desktop_patterns/Martian_Manhunter_1_1024x768.jpg


Much better. Thanks.

i thought john says he is superman's equal and hints thet he will beat supes and rest of jla in his mini , and doesnt supes say john is more powerful than him?

He did just clash with part of the JLA in the most recent issue, but he had help from another Martian. Also they didn't show the actual fight, but was revealed the martians won.

Scoob's half right, Fernus would put J'onn over most of the JLA, but you'd have to write him to his full potential to put over most of the DCU. I don't think you can do anything to put him over guys like Imperiex and Doomsday.

Fernus did own all of them single handedly and slaughtered the 70 white martians imprisoned in the P-zone..but as for J'onn his molecular control is whats wins him over cuz he's just about as strong as syoerman straight up, and then he can pulll a vision and acrually desnify his molecles some more to increase his strength and resilience..its just that he has so many powers that different writers just misinterpret the origianl intent, or just striaght up forget all together. so i dont think he needs any upgrades he just need to be written in a more creative way in terms of his powers.

Originally posted by Scoobless
http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/3402/martianmanhunter001010xn3.th.jpg
Does MM still fight crime or is he all about reinacting the Civil War now?

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Does MM still fight crime or is he all about reinacting the Civil War now?

He's just hanging out with his Martian mates.