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What countries speak English and has a good economy, so that if one would want move there, it would be the easiest?........I'm outa here......this state and country!!

I'm with ya, I'm sick of the US.

You'll find that pretty much every country has its ups and downs. You just know your own country's downs better because you actually live there.

And if you live in the US you're pretty damn lucky that our downs are better then lots of places' goods.

America is the worst place to live, except for all the other places. cool

Originally posted by debbiejo
What countries speak English and has a good economy, so that if one would want move there, it would be the easiest?........I'm outa here......this state and country!!

Canada, England, Ireland/N. Ireland, Scotland, Wales, Australia, New Zealand and South Africa. Now pick one, move there and stop with the silly threads.

Originally posted by debbiejo
What countries speak English and has a good economy, so that if one would want move there, it would be the easiest?........I'm outa here......this state and country!! No offence, debs, but I find the (ab)use of the English language in this OP a bit ironic...

I have absolutely no idea what this topic is about.

Now I don't feel so lonely

Originally posted by Jedi Priestess
I have absolutely no idea what this topic is about.

Debbiejo is saying she is sick of America and wants to leave, but she is far too lazy to learn a new language, so she wants to move to a country that already speaks English for convenience purposes. But in reality, it's a piss-poor thread.

SPQR

Not that I haven't noticed it before, but I'm just noting something totally on topic.

I laready know Japanese, so I could leave the country if I felt like it. But I like it here. America's system of government is the best I know.

And I do not mean that I like the way the government is now. I just like the structure. Other countries' make no snese to me whatsoever

Originally posted by debbiejo
What countries speak English and has a good economy, so that if one would want move there, it would be the easiest?........I'm outa here......this state and country!!

????

Are they dragging the court thing out again? I heard in the lovely nation of Wisconsin, they would just shoot your ex in the head and move on.

Originally posted by debbiejo
What countries speak English and has a good economy, so that if one would want move there, it would be the easiest?........I'm outa here......this state and country!!

no offense, im just asking here, but...are you retarded?

Originally posted by botankus
????

Are they dragging the court thing out again? I heard in the lovely nation of Wisconsin, they would just shoot your ex in the head and move on. ..... If only............It's stalking and harassment..........he wont leave me aloneeeeeeeeeeeee...


Hmmmmmm maybe I'll move back out west.........Or an Island....

Originally posted by Mindship
America is the worst place to live, except for all the other places. cool

lol

Originally posted by debbiejo
What countries speak English and has a good economy, so that if one would want move there, it would be the easiest?........I'm outa here......this state and country!!

Canada, Australia, New Zeland. Standard of life is better in these countries.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness

Canada, Australia, New Zeland. Standard of life is better in these countries. Thank you.

Ireland is the best country to live in, move there

http://www.economist.com/media/pdf/QUALITY_OF_LIFE.pdf

Originally posted by Fishy
Ireland is the best country to live in, move there

http://www.economist.com/media/pdf/QUALITY_OF_LIFE.pdf I seen pictures of Ireland........and they are very beautiful indeed. Can a person support themselves living alone there, or does one need a room mate as they do here in the US now ..at least in Michigan...Many people are leaving Michigan for other destinations just to survive....

Thanks for the link...

Oh and thanks again Lil B....I've seen pictures of NZ and it looks beautiful also...and don't they all get like one month of vacation time..called "Holiday" or something??

Originally posted by debbiejo
I seen pictures of Ireland........and they are very beautiful indeed. Can a person support themselves living alone there, or does one need a room mate as they do here in the US now ..at least in Michigan...Many people are leaving Michigan for other destinations just to survive....

Thanks for the link...

Oh and thanks again Lil B....I've seen pictures of NZ and it looks beautiful also...and don't they all get like one month of vacation time..called "Holiday" or something??

Of course you can, you just need to get a job... Or enter a welfare program... Preferably both

Originally posted by Fishy
Of course you can, you just need to get a job... Or enter a welfare program... Preferably both How can you do both??

I prefer to work.........can you pm me and or send me a link on what jobs are in demand there?

Originally posted by debbiejo
How can you do both??

I prefer to work.........can you pm me and or send me a link on what jobs are in demand there?

I have no idea, I live in Holland I'm sure they have agency's that will look for jobs for you though...

As for doing both, easy just don't tell the government you do both and try to do one "black" without paying taxes without contracts and whatever, real easy that way You just can't get well paying jobs that way but at least you'll get paid double.

Small downside is that your breaking the law and that you will likely not be insured if you get hurt while working there....

But the government will find out when doing your taxes...You must claim everything over $50.00 income here........they will check.....then you're screwed big time.

Originally posted by debbiejo
But the government will find out when doing your taxes...You must claim everything over $50.00 income here........they will check.....then you're screwed big time.

Haha that's funny...

Like the government has the ability to check millions of tax records, they limit it down to risk groups, if you're not in risk group or a random number you won't have any problems

Originally posted by debbiejo
What countries speak English and has a good economy, so that if one would want move there, it would be the easiest?........I'm outa here......this state and country!! England. Oh wait, you mean you. Ermm, New Zealand?

The IRS is very aggressive here.........I have always abided by the laws, but many feel it is not fair, and likely so from stories I have heard....The US, or I should say Michigan is in such desperate need that they take children out of homes to place them in other care just to get the money for it....sounds weird, I know, but for every child taken out of a home during hard times...the gov. makes money....Also just instituted was a "driving point" record....If one in the past had high driving points then you paid all court costs, atty costs and done with it..........NOW not only do you pay this, but you pay anywhere from $500.00 to 2000.00 per year just for the hell of it....(2 year policy).....I know so many people that have to save extra for this.........Also here, if a person is not working they (this has to do with kids) take on what they call rearranges.......don't matter if you have a job or not..........you can put in all the applications forever, but if not hired, don't matter, it keep on calculating until you could owe thousands up on thousands of dollars,.......even when the other makes...........Millions of dollars net.

In short Michigan is hurting and people are leaving the state because the people cannot afford to live here anymore............We are the Car industry, which has died, and all jobs has to do with this here................

The Gov. is tryin to find how to fix the prob with over taxing, over punishing, and now people are moving out of state..........There are NO jobs here .........so sad for such a wonderful and beautiful state.

Originally posted by Robtard
Canada, England, Ireland/N. Ireland, Scotland, Wales, Australia, New Zealand and South Africa. Now pick one, move there and stop with the silly threads.

Yes stop! No offense but it is really obvious what people are english. Of course there are spanish in US for example, but otherwise people know what countries consist mainly of english

Originally posted by Kinneary
You'll find that pretty much every country has its ups and downs. You just know your own country's downs better because you actually live there.
Nah, Germany's sweet.Originally posted by Strangelove
I laready know Japanese, so I could leave the country if I felt like it. But I like it here. America's system of government is the best I know.

And I do not mean that I like the way the government is now. I just like the structure. Other countries' make no snese to me whatsoever Haven't looked far, have ya, buddy?

England costs too much to live even comfortably. The earnings are painfully low and yet everything is expensive. I hate England for that fact and more, it's just a miserable economy

I would like a place where people can get the most bang for their buck.......and I need to know what professions are in want there.

Originally posted by debbiejo
I would like a place where people can get the most bang for their buck.......and I need to know what professions are in want there.

South Africa or something like that... Really cheap, a dollar can get you a guy that will guard your car all day...

then again if you don't pay him that dollar he'll break in your car and steal everything so you have to stay parked in one place or else it will still be expensive.

Originally posted by drewbiefan
Yes stop! No offense but it is really obvious what people are English. Of course there are spanish in US for example, but otherwise people know what countries consist mainly of English

Obviously someone didn't know which countries the English language is dominant or widely spoken or they wouldn't have asked the question.

-Don't make be go "pirate" on your ass little monkey.

South Africa? Does American dollars do well there?..,.guess I should do my own homework.............

Originally posted by debbiejo
I would like a place where people can get the most bang for their buck.......and I need to know what professions are in want there.

Well, definitely not England. We're being sucked dry over here

Originally posted by debbiejo
South Africa? Does American dollars do well there?..,.guess I should do my own homework.............

I'm sure they will accept any coin as long as they know it... Euro's, Dollars whatever they can trade it in for their own money.

Originally posted by debbiejo
South Africa? Does American dollars do well there?..,.guess I should do my own homework.............

Yes, The U.S. is strong there, but seriously... Like you are actually going to pack up your things and ship yourself to S. Africa. Face it, you're staying in the U.S., learn to deal with it.

Its 5.99 Rand to the Dollar currently.

Curious conversation per country.......(Money)

Sorry, but want to know and am not lazy..............too much to research when there are people here that would know.

Originally posted by Robtard
Yes, The U.S. is strong there, but seriously... Like you are actually going to pack up your things and ship yourself to S. Africa. Face it, you're staying in the U.S., learn to deal with it.

Its 5.99 Rand to the Dollar currently. Don't say what YOU may believe I may do there buddy!

Originally posted by debbiejo
Curious conversation per country.......(Money)

Sorry, but want to know and am not lazy..............too much to research when there are people here that would know.

Currency Conversion

Originally posted by Syren
Currency Conversion yes....

Originally posted by debbiejo
Don't say what YOU may believe I may do there buddy!


I said "go there" not "do there", obviously I don't think you'd do anything since you are not going in the first place.

S. Africa isn't a third world country, it's considered middle world, but 22% of the population is infected with HIV/AIDS, so if you do go, be wary of who you do.

Originally posted by debbiejo
yes....

I stated it, 5.99 Rand to the U.S. Dollar.

Aids would affect me how?..........this was not mentioned anyway.............

Iiiiiii'm talking about the economy in places.

I don't want a welfare program though...........I just want to know what jobs are in demand!

Originally posted by debbiejo
Aids would affect me how?..........this was not mentioned anyway.............

Iiiiiii'm talking about the economy in places.

Well, it could affect you in two possible ways, 1)Economically, HIV/AIDS in that magnitude can have an impact on a countries economy 2) Personal, I suspect you'd be possibly open to having a romantic relationship with someone if you did relocate

The S. African economy is currently fairly stable, but like most parts of Africa it can drastically change in a heartbeat; wars, famine, change of government etc.

Originally posted by debbiejo
I don't want a welfare program though...........I just want to know what jobs are in demand!

South Africa is currently putting many resources into bolstering their tourism which in turn helps their economy. They commonly hire foreigners for varies jobs, you could become a tour guide for English speaking tourist, just an idea. Another is anything in the medical field.

Well ........let's keep it on the economy........not the "Aids"or other factors.

Originally posted by debbiejo
Well ........let's keep it on the economy........not the "Aids"or other factors.

AND HIV/AIDS CAN AFFECT THE ECONOMY. When 22% (and possibly rising)of the population is sickened with a death causing disease, the economy can sway from good to crap. If you're serious and the economy of a country is the determining factor if you move there, then all aspects of the economy need to be taken into consideration.

Originally posted by debbiejo
Curious conversation per country.......(Money)

Sorry, but want to know and am not lazy..............too much to research when there are people here that would know.
That right there is a dead give away that you're not serious about actually moving. Who moves somewhere because someone on a message board said it would be a good idea?

Stop your attention whoring.

**** OFF...........Oh let me temper that............such as..........
Go oralaize yourself...................... You don't know what is going on in my mind and what I may be getting from these boards along with people from my own surroundings here!! I'm gathering information.........why don't you just wad it all in your mouth................ That seems to leak into your hands and drool on these key boards...........Spare me ..please.........

...

Originally posted by Bardock42
Haven't looked far, have ya, buddy? I've looked plenty of places. I study political science, I probably know more governmental systems than you do. I like America's the best

Thats becuse were the unique blend of majoritarian and consensual democracy all rolled up into one nice Republic.

Originally posted by Strangelove
I've looked plenty of places. I study political science, I probably know more governmental systems than you do. I like America's the best

Despite the major problems that a two party system has?

Well idiocy, but I guess cause you study it you must be right (bullshit).

Originally posted by debbiejo
**** OFF...........Oh let me temper that............such as..........
Go oralaize yourself...................... You don't know what is going on in my mind and what I may be getting from these boards along with people from my own surroundings here!! I'm gathering information.........why don't you just wad it all in your mouth................ That seems to leak into your hands and drool on these key boards...........Spare me ..please.........
Okay, see, I'm going to need you to actually LEARN english before you try to move somewhere where people speak it. You're just going to give Americans an even worse name than we already have.

Originally posted by debbiejo
What countries speak English and has a good economy, so that if one would want move there, it would be the easiest?........I'm outa here......this state and country!! I would love to leave this state and country but the thing is that the rest of the world that speak english dont seem to have fair rights or laws. Its actually worse than living in the US.

Originally posted by JacopeX
I would love to leave this state and country but the thing is that the rest of the world that speak english dont seem to have fair rights or laws. Its actually worse than living in the US.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Originally posted by Bardock42
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA WOuld you like to prove me wrong, I might be mistaken. Really. Because I spoken to many from many nations that speak english from the carribean, northeast south america, England, and many other countries. They claim its horrible political wise, economy, and/or Laws.

Originally posted by lord xyz
England. Oh wait, you mean you. Ermm, New Zealand? Don't pawn her off on the downunderverse...

I think England would be nice... doped

Originally posted by Bardock42
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I concur.

Originally posted by Fishy
Ireland is the best country to live in, move there

http://www.economist.com/media/pdf/QUALITY_OF_LIFE.pdf

Just for getting the info from economist, I must dismiss that the Irland is the best place to live. I hate the economist.

Originally posted by Bardock42
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Im not sure if laughter is what that statement provoked. This is cry worthy! Agh...

Originally posted by JacopeX
WOuld you like to prove me wrong, I might be mistaken. Really. Because I spoken to many from many nations that speak english from the carribean, northeast south america, England, and many other countries. They claim its horrible political wise, economy, and/or Laws.

Yeah, the problem is that people from other countries actually realize the mistakes in their politicians, while you Americans love to bend over for every bullshitting ******* that comes along.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Yeah, the problem is that people from other countries actually realize the mistakes in their politicians, while you Americans love to bend over for every bullshitting ******* that comes along. That, and the whole ironic 'incorrectly structured sentences' thing. But it's no bif (sic) deal.

Originally posted by Alliance
...

Just for that, I'm coming there..........

Hmmmmmmmm I think I'll pick NZ They get a whole month of "Holiday"..........hi2

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Don't pawn her off on the downunderverse...

I think England would be nice... doped England has too many retards as it is, we don't need/want anymore.

Originally posted by debbiejo
too much to research when there are people here that would know.

Lazy.

Originally posted by Robtard
2) Personal, I suspect you'd be possibly open to having a romantic relationship with someone if you did relocate

She's a eunich.

Originally posted by debbiejo
Hmmmmmmmm I think I'll pick NZ They get a whole month of "Holiday"..........hi2

We have a plant in Vienna, Austria. They START their employees with 5-week vacations. Great for them, but everytime I try to contact their guys they're never there.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Yeah, the problem is that people from other countries actually realize the mistakes in their politicians, while you Americans love to bend over for every bullshitting ******* that comes along.

That's funny coming from a German... Anyhow, I am assuming you mean the way "we" bend over for Bush right? If so, look at the polls, he isn't loved by the entire country.

Originally posted by Robtard
That's funny coming from a German... Anyhow, I am assuming you mean the way "we" bend over for Bush right? If so, look at the polls, he isn't loved by the entire country.

You didn't know that generalization occurs in almost every political and geographical "my country is better than yours" post in this forum? Where have you been?

Originally posted by Robtard
That's funny coming from a German... Anyhow, I am assuming you mean the way "we" bend over for Bush right? If so, look at the polls, he isn't loved by the entire country. I don't think he meant Bush, but Bush is a good example.

Originally posted by Robtard
Anyhow, I am assuming you mean the way "we" bend over for Bush right?

There's a good joke in there, and it has nothing to do with politics.

Booger from Revenge of the Nerds would get it right off the bat.

Originally posted by lord xyz
I don't think he meant Bush, but Bush is a good example.

If you're going to think that my assumptions were wrong, have the decency to tell me what would be correct. AND, Bush isn't a good example, look at the history of his polls, at no time was he loved by the entire country, even pre 9/11 his ratings weren't spectacular.

You want a good example of a country not only bending over but spreading ass cheeks and self applying lubrication to it's collective anus for a "bullshitting ******* "? Germany during the Hitler era.

Originally posted by botankus
There's a good joke in there, and it has nothing to do with politics.

Booger from Revenge of the Nerds would get it right off the bat.

It's been nearly two decades since I've seen that... Memory rusty, but if I recall he was fond of saying "Bush!" in a vaginal sense?

-edit, your post people ignited my memory... It's the scene where they are watching the girls dorm room through hidden camera's right?

We've got Bush...we've got Bush.

Just think...in November 2004, porn directors and Republicans were chanting the same chant.

Hmmdoes anyone like bush on here:s ? what is so bad about him exactly?

Originally posted by Robtard
If you're going to think that my assumptions were wrong, have the decency to tell me what would be correct. AND, Bush isn't a good example, look at the history of his polls, at no time was he loved by the entire country, even pre 9/11 his ratings weren't spectacular.

We may hate him but this country isn't doing a damn thing about it. We've finally gotten a Democratic majority in both the HoR and the Senate but that's only the first step. If people hate this guy so much we need to impeach his sorry ass. But we're not doing that so yes, we're bending over and taking it.

Originally posted by drewbiefan
Hmmdoes anyone like bush on here:s ? what is so bad about him exactly?

That's a joke, right?

Originally posted by Marxman
We may hate him but this country isn't doing a damn thing about it. We've finally gotten a Democratic majority in both the HoR and the Senate but that's only the first step. If people hate this guy so much we need to impeach his sorry ass. But we're not doing that so yes, we're bending over and taking it.

That's a joke, right?

I disagree... Voting in Democratic majority in both houses is saying "We're not bending over", as far as impeaching the guy, 1) It wouldn't be easy to impeach Bush 2) Impeach him, then what? Clinton was impeached, that didn't do much to him as the Reps had hoped.

Originally posted by Robtard
I disagree... Voting in Democratic majority in both houses is saying "We're not bending over", as far as impeaching the guy, 1) It wouldn't be easy to impeach Bush 2) Impeach him, then what? Clinton was impeached, that didn't do much to him as the Reps had hoped.

Like I said. It was only the first step. Impeachment is the next step. And I'm pretty sure it would be easy. I mean, if his approval rating is so low how can it not? With the addition of a Democratic majority that will vote "yes" whether they like him or not, and a divided Republican party, he will easily be voted out. Do we really want him in control another 2 year. I sure as hell don't.

After we impeach him we start a new. WITH ANYBODY! Honestly I'd take anybody over George Bush right now. Name a candidate that I'd pick over Bush and I'll give you a dollar.

Originally posted by Marxman
Like I said. It was only the first step. Impeachment is the next step. And I'm pretty sure it would be easy. I mean, if his approval rating is so low how can it not? With the addition of a Democratic majority that will vote "yes" whether they like him or not, and a divided Republican party, he will easily be voted out. Do we really want him in control another 2 year. I sure as hell don't.

After we impeach him we start a new. WITH ANYBODY! Honestly I'd take anybody over George Bush right now. Name a candidate that I'd pick over Bush and I'll give you a dollar.

It would not be that easy, making something legally stick to a man covered in teflon is next to impossible. By the time it was over, he'd be out office anyhow.

Impeachment doesn't necessarily mean he has to leave office.

Irelands probably the best im gonna move their when i make enough money

Originally posted by Robtard
That's funny coming from a German... Anyhow, I am assuming you mean the way "we" bend over for Bush right? If so, look at the polls, he isn't loved by the entire country.

Yes, I know that. I was just using some Bill Hicks to get a point across.

Originally posted by Robtard
It would not be that easy, making something legally stick to a man covered in teflon is next to impossible. By the time it was over, he'd be out office anyhow.

Impeachment doesn't necessarily mean he has to leave office.

Well when we impeach him and he doesn't leave we start the revolution.
gunsmilie

Originally posted by Bardock42
Yes, I know that. I was just using some Bill Hicks to get a point across.

I see... Excuse me then, but I am somewhat "Bill Hicks" ignorant. I've only seen a few clips here and there. Funny stuff though.

Originally posted by Robtard
I see... Excuse me then, but I am somewhat "Bill Hicks" ignorant. I've only seen a few clips here and there. Funny stuff though.

Yes, definately worth checking out some more.

Originally posted by quickshot
Irelands probably the best im gonna move their when i make enough money Hmmmm Ireland vs New Zealand!! Who wants me?

Originally posted by debbiejo
Hmmmm Ireland vs New Zealand!! Who wants me?

You are a free person, you know?

Originally posted by debbiejo
Hmmmm Ireland vs New Zealand!! Who wants me?

New Zealand, yo.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
New Zealand, yo.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot


I thought about moving there, got any problems with that?

Originally posted by xmarksthespot


Is it cos its raining...all the time?

Meh, I bet its better than England

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Is it cos its raining...all the time?

Meh, I bet its better than England

I would say (and I would also say I am correct) it is because he lives there. Yes. I must refer you to the part where I said I'm correct? Well, that applies.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I thought about moving there, got any problems with that? Well it will delay our trip to Amsterdam, and adventures in the VW Kombi.Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Is it cos its raining...all the time?

Meh, I bet its better than England Oh it's fine... I'm just not sure we're ready for debbiejo.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Well it will delay our trip to Amsterdam, and adventures in the VW Kombi.

Nah, we will go back together as soon as Monica replied to our proposal. Obviously in an affirmative manner.

What about Velm... I mean LethalFemme. Shall we invite her to visit Middle Earth?

canada is very nice

Canada has too many taxes. And it takes forever to get surgeries and important doctor appointments......I know Canadians who complain about this all the time.....

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Something new, exciting and completely different.........

Originally posted by debbiejo
Canada has too many taxes. And it takes forever to get surgeries and important doctor appointments......I know Canadians who complain about this all the time.....

Something new, exciting and completely different.........

And you think Ireland won't have taxes? Ha that's hilarious. But the west way to stop complaining about taxes is just to move to Norway or Sweden... Taxes will never bother you again once you leave there.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Despite the major problems that a two party system has?

Well idiocy, but I guess cause you study it you must be right (bullshit). I'm not talking about the party system here. I'm talking about the structure of government. The parliamentary system is the worst there is. I don't understand it. It's ridiculous.

Originally posted by Strangelove
I'm not talking about the party system here. I'm talking about the structure of government. The parliamentary system is the worst there is. I don't understand it. It's ridiculous.


Well, okay, educate me, what you think are the pros and cons of your system. Also what you find so bad about the German system.

Originally posted by debbiejo
What countries speak English and has a good economy, so that if one would want move there, it would be the easiest?........I'm outa here......this state and country!!

Britain! We have free health care and you'll get so many benefits at the expense of the natives you'll never have to work again!

Scotland is probably the best region of the UK to move to...

Originally posted by Bardock42
Well, okay, educate me, what you think are the pros and cons of your system. Also what you find so bad about the German system. I'm not well-versed in the specifics of the German system, but here's what I know:

Parliamentary system (which is the system of most countries):
-Judicial, Executive, and Legislative branches vested in one body, Parliament. (rampant possibilities for corruption)
-Prime Minister, which is elected by the House of Commons, and wields supreme executive and legislative power
-ceremonial duties carried out by a President (or king and queen in a monarchical system)
-states have no individual powers

Now Germany is a federal parliamentary representative democratic republic...wow. I don't even think I want to understand that.

Federal system (United States):
-Judicial, Legislative, and Executive branches separate with powers (checks and balances) over each other, to keep each other in check.
-President serves both ceremonial and executive duties, has no power over legislature.
-states are autonomous and have separate powers from federal government.

Now, I am by no means an expert, but I like the federal system a lot better

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
Britain! We have free health care and you'll get so many benefits at the expense of the natives you'll never have to work again!

Scotland is probably the best region of the UK to move to...

Ya but it is in our insurance etc, in the taxes or somthing, we pay it in other things, so really it is not so free. We do not pay it our directly when we may have an operation like they do in USA for example, but we do still have to pay health insurance in another way.

Originally posted by Strangelove
I'm not well-versed in the specifics of the German system, but here's what I know:

Parliamentary system (which is the system of most countries):
-Judicial, Executive, and Legislative branches vested in one body, Parliament. (rampant possibilities for corruption)
-Prime Minister, which is elected by the House of Commons, and wields supreme executive and legislative power
-ceremonial duties carried out by a President (or king and queen in a monarchical system)
-states have no individual powers

Now Germany is a federal parliamentary representative democratic republic...wow. I don't even think I want to understand that.

Federal system (United States):
-Judicial, Legislative, and Executive branches separate with powers (checks and balances) over each other, to keep each other in check.
-President serves both ceremonial and executive duties, has no power over legislature.
-states are autonomous and have separate powers from federal government.

Now, I am by no means an expert, but I like the federal system a lot better

Well, you should really, really check out Germany, we are a kind of mix between the two. You might like it.

Also, I think you got some facts about the parliamentary system wrong.

The three branches are separated in most countries I believe.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Well, you should really, really check out Germany, we are a kind of mix between the two. You might like it.

Also, I think you got some facts about the parliamentary system wrong.

The three branches are separated in most countries I believe. I admit I was thinking about England most of the time.

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
Britain! We have free health care and you'll get so many benefits at the expense of the natives you'll never have to work again!

REALLY!

But then I can't make fun of the Brits anymore

Originally posted by Strangelove
I'm not well-versed in the specifics of the German system, but here's what I know:

Parliamentary system (which is the system of most countries):
-Judicial, Executive, and Legislative branches vested in one body, Parliament. (rampant possibilities for corruption)

Here is where you are wrong, the law making branch just makes the law but has no influence on anything else, the rest carries it out and judges. Ministers and whatever have no influence at all, if they want to change anything they need to change the law. To change the law would require a 50% majority in favor of it. And I'm not sure if Germany has this but an overseeing house to agree with it as well. At least that's the case in Holland.



Only not really, the prime minister is the head of state like the President in the US. But she in this case still has to answer to other body's of government. Still needs those things to agree and still needs people to be on her side in order for her to change things. She's just the head of the country but not the one that decides everything



A system of Federal government regulating the law everywhere creates simple laws in a country where nothing changes if you cross state lines. It also makes things clearer for the people removes difference between states and gives the same funding to the same people throughout the country. Making sure it basically does not matter where you live, I can only be happy with moves like this. Federal government should make the laws.

States however do often have power, not in law making powers but they do have some power in how those laws are executed, which things are considered more important then others and where the government money is spend on.



Easy it's a republic represented by a parliament that is democratically chosen. Pretty much the same as the US, only the US doesn't have a parliament.




As is the case in Germany. The US still has people that make laws don't they?



The same in Germany, they can propose new laws however but it's still parliament which is a representation of the people that have to agree with these laws.



Which is not something I would consider a good thing in most situations.

The word is out here that the Michigan population has decreased by 5% (that's a lot of people) because of job loss and people moving out of state.........Houses up for sale everywhere........Noooooo jobs.....People heading down south..

Originally posted by Fishy
And you think Ireland won't have taxes? Ha that's hilarious. But the west way to stop complaining about taxes is just to move to Norway or Sweden... Taxes will never bother you again once you leave there.

ireland has a motherf*cking pile of taxes... the less money you have, the more tax you pay... healthcare is a joke unless you can afford insurance, and the premiums are huge, as only one company has a monopoly and charges what it likes...

Originally posted by debbiejo
The word is out here that the Michigan population has decreased by 5% (that's a lot of people) because of job loss and people moving out of state.........Houses up for sale everywhere........Noooooo jobs.....People heading down south..


They're moving out west too.

Well Ireland's out then........

Next please.

Yeah, I heard Wyoming.

Originally posted by debbiejo
Well Ireland's out then........

Next please.

Yeah, I heard Wyoming.

no, ill be honest, if you have a degree, you'll do well, otherwise, its not worth the trouble...

New Zealand's lookin better and better...

Anything tropical popping in anyones head? No great Sunny spots...You don't need much to survive there do ya? Doesn't everyone live outside?

Originally posted by debbiejo
The word is out here that the Michigan population has decreased by 5% (that's a lot of people) because of job loss and people moving out of state.........Houses up for sale everywhere........Noooooo jobs.....People heading down south..


No one is welcome to move to my state, keep going further south please.

Originally posted by Soleran
No one is welcome to move to my state, keep going further south please. Your state has the highest crime rate in the US I heard...........And how that's possible I don't know........How'd you guys do that???? That's quite a feat!

No thanks......

Originally posted by debbiejo
Your state has the highest crime rate in the US I heard...........And how that's possible I don't know........How'd you guys do that???? That's quite a feat!

No thanks......


I doubt that Missouri has the highest crime rate in the USA.

Kansas City is really nasty!! All that glowing factory air is effecting the population.......It's sad really...

Originally posted by Soleran
I doubt that Missouri has the highest crime rate in the USA.

Don;t know about the state, but St. Louis has the the highest crime rate for a city in the U.S

Originally posted by wuTa
Don;t know about the state, but St. Louis has the the highest crime rate for a city in the U.S That's what I meant........That's in MO....

Originally posted by debbiejo
That's what I meant........That's in MO....


St Louis in Illinios or the MO side though?

You gonna split the city in half and say which side??........

Originally posted by debbiejo
You gonna split the city in half and say which side??........


It is split in half by the river and state borders.

East St Louis, Illinios

and

West St Louis, Missouri

so which side is the bad one!

Well, I do believe it is the East side..........So, ok...MO is ok..

Originally posted by Fishy
Here is where you are wrong, the law making branch just makes the law but has no influence on anything else, the rest carries it out and judges. Ministers and whatever have no influence at all, if they want to change anything they need to change the law. To change the law would require a 50% majority in favor of it. And I'm not sure if Germany has this but an overseeing house to agree with it as well. At least that's the case in Holland.



Only not really, the prime minister is the head of state like the President in the US. But she in this case still has to answer to other body's of government. Still needs those things to agree and still needs people to be on her side in order for her to change things. She's just the head of the country but not the one that decides everything



A system of Federal government regulating the law everywhere creates simple laws in a country where nothing changes if you cross state lines. It also makes things clearer for the people removes difference between states and gives the same funding to the same people throughout the country. Making sure it basically does not matter where you live, I can only be happy with moves like this. Federal government should make the laws.

States however do often have power, not in law making powers but they do have some power in how those laws are executed, which things are considered more important then others and where the government money is spend on.



Easy it's a republic represented by a parliament that is democratically chosen. Pretty much the same as the US, only the US doesn't have a parliament.




As is the case in Germany. The US still has people that make laws don't they?



The same in Germany, they can propose new laws however but it's still parliament which is a representation of the people that have to agree with these laws.



Which is not something I would consider a good thing in most situations. It was a very cursory look at both of the systems, if I felt like it I could take a much deeper look.

And you're incorrect on one point. The Prime Minister is the Head of Government. The Monarch/President is the Head of State (ceremonial powers) in a parliamentary system.

Originally posted by Strangelove
It was a very cursory look at both of the systems, if I felt like it I could take a much deeper look.

And you're incorrect on one point. The Prime Minister is the Head of Government. The Monarch/President is the Head of State (ceremonial powers) in a parliamentary system.

The difference would be what exactly? In the US the president decides on policy he leads the country. The Prime minister as the head of government does about the same only with far less power, seeing as two party systems never force coalitions. Three or more party systems often do.

i dont vote. they are all crooked, if you ask me.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
i dont vote. they are all crooked, if you ask me.

Yeah that will make the world a hell of a lot better

Originally posted by Strangelove
I admit I was thinking about England most of the time.

They're separate here as well.

Theoretically anyway.

Originally posted by wuTa
Don;t know about the state, but St. Louis has the the highest crime rate for a city in the U.S
really? honestly, i would have never thought this. i guess the NY and LA stereotype makes it seem different.

LA/NYC apparently are two of the worst, especially NYC!!

I think I'm gonna go to WY...They pay double there and everything is cheap cheap cheap!!

And there's mountains and cliffs and stuff........

WY?

Wyoming...probably.

Yep, very good!

Don't! They throw beer bottles out of their car windows in Wyoming. And every other road in the country, for that matter.

Originally posted by botankus
Don't! They throw beer bottles out of their car windows in Wyoming. And every other road in the country, for that matter.

There's something wrong with that?

But Wyoming is pretty...And they don't throw beer bottles out the window there, that's NJ