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The hero of justice versus the Pan American champion/Masters family heir.

Both men have something to prove, which is which style is stronger: Ansatsuken or Taekwondo. They also want to prove to their respective offspring (Kim Jae Hoon and Kim Dong Hwan for Kim, Mel Masters for Ken) that they are indeed the strongest.

Stage: Ryu's Alpha 3 stage

Would be a nice showcase of kicks, but unfortunately Ken outclasses Kim in every department, except the colgate smile.

Pretty much. Won't be easy by any means, but Ken wins

I think kim could win, maybe it's me. Ken is a slacker, and kim is very skilled and experienced.

i kinda agree with Emperor.
if its anywhere from SFA to SF2 Ken, then i think Kim takes it since he works harder and is more experienced. also it wont be the first time he'd be taking on a guy with fire or projectils either. but if memory serves me right, this would be the first time Ken is going to be up against a taekwondo guy..that also of Kim's calibre. so at any rate, it is NOT easy at all.
SF3 Ken agaisnt Kim would be a good fight since by now ken has sobered up as well and is more focused. maturity finally set in for him here. if its SF3 Ken then i think it'll be Ken. otherwise, Kim.


THIS is what pisses me off about SF fans. SF guys just happen to outclass every one around! its like no one can match up to their repertioire of 3 to 4 moves. what the hell?
when it comes to kicks, Kim probably has the best ones around. Ken is flashy...but Kim is powerful, fast AND flashy. not to mention how phoenix combo is freakin blur of speed and skill. not even a single move of ken can match its speed. not shoryureppa, not shinryuken, not shippujinreikyaku. almost all of Kim's moves are like that. like i said, pre SF3, ken is up for some serious ass whipping. SF3 ken would take it but that too after a tough fight.
~Sado

Originally posted by Sado22
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THIS is what pisses me off about SF fans. SF guys just happen to outclass every one around! its like no one can match up to their repertioire of 3 to 4 moves. what the hell?
when it comes to kicks, Kim probably has the best ones around. Ken is flashy...but Kim is powerful, fast AND flashy. not to mention how phoenix combo is freakin blur of speed and skill. not even a single move of ken can match its speed. not shoryureppa, not shinryuken, not shippujinreikyaku. almost all of Kim's moves are like that. like i said, pre SF3, ken is up for some serious ass whipping. SF3 ken would take it but that too after a tough fight.
~Sado

Well, not really sado, it depends on how you compare characters. when it comes to capcom and snk they each value different things. Consistent: ability, experience, stats, etc versus feats, the former being more important to capcom while the later to snk and thats the problem. Snk has a huge habit of ignoring a persons ability, skill, experience in favor of miricale feats.Capcom on the other hand is the opposite and if miracle feats do occur it's usually explained. here's an example: Gill was defeated by alex and sagat by dan. But, capcom has stated they forfeited due to explicit reasons. Compare that to snk, what explanation was put forth for igniz? Despite having every fighter in KOF 2001 fighitng data, the kusanagi flame (Which is one of the most powerful powers in kof), The Anti-Thesis to the kusanagi flame (Kula), 3 boss characters as body guards fighting in a damn TEAM, and the ability to steal fighting energy. He lost to 3 people, that's a mircale feat if I've ever seen one. Kim, Takuma, geese and the rest of the veteran fighters. despite having leagues of experience they get bested and surpassed by some highschool kid with flames that saves the world. If kim was a street fighter he would be around gens tier easily. like all the Master/Veteran fighters are. Bottomline masters get shitted on in kof, and I hate that.

Kim beats ken, no matter what version, Ken is a slacker. He doesn't slack like say kyo. But, he isn't what I consider a master versus kim.

ken maybe a slacker , but he trains very hard , hard enough to go foe to foe against ryu any day of the week . Is Kim capable of matching foe to foe equally against kyo kusanagi or terry bogardy?

Emperor , i really think there are almost no one in the snk or in capcoms universe who can be considered a true master , even ryu himself said he isnt one(he is probaly the sickest bastard when it comes down to train) .Besides , Kims taekwondo in its majority are fancy kicks with too much swings and very few power , they arent compact at all , and like the gracie family said , fancy kicks will get you nowhere , the key for victory is the least power with the greatest results.

Originally posted by Hoshi
ken maybe a slacker , but he trains very hard , hard enough to go foe to foe against ryu any day of the week . Is Kim capable of matching foe to foe equally against kyo kusanagi or terry bogardy?

Emperor , i really think there are almost no one in the snk or in capcoms universe who can be considered a true master , even ryu himself said he isnt one(he is probaly the sickest bastard when it comes down to train) .Besides , Kims taekwondo in its majority are fancy kicks with too much swings and very few power , they arent compact at all , and like the gracie family said , fancy kicks will get you nowhere , the key for victory is the least power with the greatest results.
I'm going to have to partially agree with you there hoshi, there are no masters in kof. Just fighters with fancy kicks, snk used to have very skilled individuals: Geese, Tong Ru, Mr.Karate,Kim Kaphawn, etc. but, they always get side tracked and crapped on by flashy flame users who are in high school. If gouki and oro were in kof, ash would be stronger than them.
As for capcom, I dunno how oro, gouki and gen do not strike you as masters.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
As for capcom, I dunno how oro, gouki and gen do not strike you as masters.

There are masters in Capcom (and in SNK) and the following three do apply. Ryu can also be considered a master in Gouken-ryu Ansatsuken, but he is "still learning."

Oro is 140 years old and fights with one hand tied behind his back, just to make things fair in a fight. It is also rumored that he has found the way to immortality. Oro sees Ryu as a potential successor to his form of martial arts, after he has mastered his current style.

Akuma is the master of Ansatsuken at its 'purest' form, meaning that he could kill an opponent with one blow. He slain both Gotetsu and Gouken in battle, as well as countless others.

While Akuma sought to master the life-threatening Shun Goku Satsu technique, he eventually increased his strength by embracing the principle of the Dark Hadou. In embracing the Dark Hadou, Akuma lost his compassion, but increased the killing power of his techniques, new and old. This embrace caused Akuma to transcend human limits.

Contrary to popular belief, Akuma did not transform into a demon. He is just too damn strong.

Gen, despite being old as dirt and have a death wish, but he is one tough mofo. And on top of that, he is the ONLY person who survived the Raging Demon, and in order to do that, you have to clear your mind and heart of all emotions.

I meant kof, not snk. What masters exsist in kof?

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
I meant kof, not snk. What masters exsist in kof?

My bad. There are masters, but through a cruel twist of fate, they are reduced to jobbers for Kyo or anyone else..

1. Saisyu Kusanagi

2. Leopold Goenitz

3. Tung Fu Rue

4. Takuma Sakazaki

5. Geese Howard

6. Kim Kaphwan

Those are from the top of my head.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
snk used to have very skilled individuals: Geese, Tong Ru, Mr.Karate,Kim Kaphawn, etc. but, they always get side tracked and crapped on by flashy flame users who are in high school. If gouki and oro were in kof, ash would be stronger than them.


I have to agree with this statement that is what it seems KOF has been reduced to.

i agree with you mentioning SNK's habit. that is one of the reasons why Terry Bogard is also left out of the lime light in KoF, though SNK themselves admitted that he has the most heart amongst all of the SNK guys.
As for Ignitz, it was not just Kyo, Iori and K' who beat him. Terry, Ryo and "many of the other strong fighters" were there fighting Ignitz, that is why every team's ending takes place in the same beach, cuz they were all there. they all fought Ignitz. In fact it is even stated that Terry, as usual, provided the much needed help against Ignitz and was there all the way till the end. Ryo was also there (and though you hate him, he is one of the regular top tiers of the game) so were other powerful guys. so it makes sense. its more like, when Ignitz was practically beaten, that the flame users charged up and leveled him down with a final fire blast....which is why they get credit for beating ignitz (SNK sucky, affinity for flame users makes them get credit for everything).
Kula is an anti-thesis in terms of having ice but she is by no means in Kyo's league. or Iori's. she's an anti-thesis in terms of flame and ice but not in terms of power.
as for the data...yeah it makes no sense. its like how in DoA the movie, the girl kicks the badguy in the face even though he knew what she was going to do


agreed. Saisyu, takuma practicaly don't even exist in the game.


agreed.


huh? isn't that any game? ryu's moves are also pretty basic and yet he's placed at a high level in the game and called true warrior. his moves are pretty ordinary....somehow though, no matter what he does is like how a true warrior would do it. shinshoryuken are just two punches and a shoryuken but again its this "hieght of power" thing amongst the regular cast. you get my meaning? its always there in all games. in BR, Yugo's just a regualr boxer but apparently his power is so sought after its not even funny. Terry's just a brawler but again he's THE guy from KoF universe. its always there.


you're contradicting yourself. how can you train very hard and be a slacker? or at least i don't see how.
also Ken's bit is one of those things i was mentioning to Emperor above: he's a slacker but somehow, someway beat ryu in SF2, though Ryu was the one training and working hard. what the hell? its so unfair.
Kim CAN match Terry Bogard foe to foe. he's one of the top tiers in the FF universe. in fact i read somewhere that FF2 semis took place between HIM and Terry. unreliable soource, but no, he's not weak at all.

~Sado

Ken's a bit of a slacker, but he's still pretty tough because he's a natural and he's been training pretty hard recently. If you aren't Ryu level or higher, you are simply not beating Mr.Masters. Kim is a tough mofo & I've said before how SNK mistreated him to make others look good, but he's not beating Ken.

^^
you have a thing for gifted slackers don't you?
~Sado

I was about to notice that...

The student skills are getting sharper by the thread!

Originally posted by Sado22
^^
you have a thing for gifted slackers don't you?
~Sado I just think it's cool when you don't have to try as hard as others do.

and not to mention doing all that and then laughing at them after its all said and done.
that really DOES rock.
sigh...if only life was that simple
think about it:
-imagine getting great grades without studying
-imagine getting a promotion at work without having to suck up to your boss...or suck your boss
-imagine getting a payraise for doing jackshit
-imagine pwning people at a game you never played before
-imagine getting all the chicks without having to go around chasing them
-imagine getting free porn without having to search for it

damn life would be so good!

~Sado

I used to do the grades thing & I owned people @ Project Justice the 1st time I played it.

Originally posted by Sado22
i when Ignitz was practically beaten, that the flame users charged up and leveled him down with a final fire blast....which is why they get credit for beating ignitz (SNK sucky, affinity for flame users makes them get credit for everything).
Kula is an anti-thesis in terms of having ice but she is by no means in Kyo's league. or Iori's. she's an anti-thesis in terms of flame and ice but not in terms of power.

Sado, Igniz schooled the whole cast before Iori, Kyo, and K woke up and defeated him with a plot device. He wasn't practically beaten at all. Also, kula not being comparable in power makes no sense. Snk felt they should Make K comaparable to Iori and Kyo,But not Kula?




Originally posted by Sado22

huh? isn't that any game? ryu's moves are also pretty basic and yet he's placed at a high level in the game and called true warrior.
his moves are pretty ordinary....somehow though, no matter what he does is like how a true warrior would do it. shinshoryuken are just two punches and a shoryuken but again its this "hieght of power" thing amongst the regular cast. you get my meaning? its always there in all games. in BR, Yugo's just a regualr boxer but apparently his power is so sought after its not even funny. Terry's just a brawler but again he's THE guy from KoF universe. its always there.

I don't get you their sado, There's nothing basic about ryu's moveset. Electric projectiles, uppercuts that can kill a man, etc. How is that basic? And ryu has fought over 10,000 opponents, contented with the worlds strongest fighters and Street fights every all his life he's earned that position. Note that he's not even a master nor has he bested any master class characters, compare that to kyo and iori who do none of the above and magically defeat skilled fighters.

Originally posted by Sado22

also Ken's bit is one of those things i was mentioning to Emperor above: he's a slacker but somehow, someway beat ryu in SF2, though Ryu was the one training and working hard. what the hell? its so unfair.


Ken isn't a slacker per say, he still fights in tournaments (He met sean after he won one), is the pan american champion for a third time, etc. He trains it's just that he has a family and cannot train like ryu does I.E. Traveling the world, getting into street fights, etc. He has "Master Foundation" to run. Ken is only a little worst than ryu.

Originally posted by Sado22


huh? isn't that any game? ryu's moves are also pretty basic and yet he's placed at a high level in the game and called true warrior. his moves are pretty ordinary....somehow though, no matter what he does is like how a true warrior would do it. shinshoryuken are just two punches and a shoryuken but again its this "hieght of power" thing amongst the regular cast. you get my meaning? its always there in all games. in BR, Yugo's just a regualr boxer but apparently his power is so sought after its not even funny. Terry's just a brawler but again he's THE guy from KoF universe. its always there.


Forget my intial response to this post, Sado. Here's what I should have said:

When I said "Just Fighters with fancy moves" I mean't the flame users. Ryu & Terry IMO are both true warriors, they both had to learn what fighting is the hard way. Ryu, spent a little over ten years training with gouken, before going into street fighting. It took him another nine years after he gave up satsu no hadou to gain that power back the right way and he's fought over 10,000 opponents to do it. That's close to 20 years of hard training and half that time was street fighting. Terry spent Ten Years training and street fighting in southtown just so he could fight geese, and I presume he still fights afterwards but, I wouldn't know since I don't follow KOF plot that much. My point is capcom acknowledges ryu's effort, but SNK puts terry and all the other guys who were named by major Snafu aside for young Nobodies with convuluted, over complicated, plots and No Fighting Spirit. Now brainchild can come in here in bring up Iori training hard, and how he tear metal with his fingers. But, I don't care, really, There is no way I'll be convinced Iori, Kyo, and any other Slacker who has no initiative trains harder or is more skilled than terry.

Like you said, Kim is damn good. He can defeat ken or at most it's a stalemate.

i agree in that point with you emperor , but i really didnt understand why the hell you said gouki would be weaker than ash if he was in snk universe, shouldnt he have the same strengh in both universes?

Originally posted by Hoshi
i agree in that point with you emperor , but i really didnt understand why the hell you said gouki would be weaker than ash if he was in snk universe, shouldnt he have the same strengh in both universes?

Ash, should never ever be the same strength as gouki. just reading that makes my eye's bleed.

EDIT: I mean't that as an example of how snk ignores stats in favor of mircale feats.

Ken, of course. If Ken ties with Terry and Terry defeated Kim that should explain it all.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Forget my intial response to this post, Sado. Here's what I should have said:

When I said "Just Fighters with fancy moves" I mean't the flame users. Ryu & Terry IMO are both true warriors, they both had to learn what fighting is the hard way. Ryu, spent a little over ten years training with gouken, before going into street fighting. It took him another nine years after he gave up satsu no hadou to gain that power back the right way and he's fought over 10,000 opponents to do it. That's close to 20 years of hard training and half that time was street fighting. Terry spent Ten Years training and street fighting in southtown just so he could fight geese, and I presume he still fights afterwards but, I wouldn't know since I don't follow KOF plot that much. My point is capcom acknowledges ryu's effort, but SNK puts terry and all the other guys who were named by major Snafu aside for young Nobodies with convuluted, over complicated, plots and No Fighting Spirit. Now brainchild can come in here in bring up Iori training hard, and how he tear metal with his fingers. But, I don't care, really, There is no way I'll be convinced Iori, Kyo, and any other Slacker who has no initiative trains harder or is more skilled than terry. Basically you just said "I have a silly idea and even though brainchild's right all the time, my mind won't be changed" Who said Iori was a slacker? Where did you get this from? Why the Hell would a slacker train as hard as or harder than Terry anyway? You're not making sense

Originally posted by brainchild81
Basically you just said "I have a silly idea and even though brainchild's right all the time, my mind won't be changed" Who said Iori was a slacker? Where did you get this from? Why the Hell would a slacker train as hard as or harder than Terry anyway? You're not making sense

No, I said snk screwed there real fighters over for posers. Iori isn't a slacker, he just doesn't deserve to be placed in the tier he is in and when has iori trained harder than terry?

Didn't say that he did. He does train hard. I'm not sure whether or not he trains as hard or harder than Terry. I'm responding to this.Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
There is no way I'll be convinced Iori, Kyo, and any other Slacker who has no initiative trains harder or is more skilled than terry.
Why on earth would anybody say a slacker trains harder than Terry? That's a contradiction. & why exactly doesn't Iori deserve to be in the tier he's in?

Originally posted by brainchild81
I'm responding to this. Why on earth would anybody say a slacker trains harder than Terry? That's a contradiction. & why exactly doesn't Iori deserve to be in the tier he's in?

Please stop being so pedantic, Slackers as in they are lazy, half assed fighters compared to real fighters.

And Iori doesn't deserve to be up their because his feats can be summed up as jobbing.

All of them? Nobody's ever jobbed to Terry? Please start making sense. Not being pedantic. No one here has tried to say that slackers train harder than Terry so what are you going on about? & Fu*k you for making me look up "pedantic" You're basically saying anybody who don't train like there's no tomorrow isn't a real fighter. That's silly mane. They wouldn't even sign up to fight the world's best if they weren't fighters. How much does one have to train for you to consider them a real fighter?

Originally posted by brainchild81
All of them? Nobody's ever jobbed to Terry? Please start making sense. Not being pedantic. No one here has tried to say that slackers train harder than Terry so what are you going on about?

Are you drunk mane, you consistently claim iori is stronger than terry. So, if he is (According to you), than he must be doing something that terry isn't, mane.



Originally posted by brainchild81

Fu*k you for making me look up "pedantic" You're basically saying anybody who don't train like there's no tomorrow isn't a real fighter. That's silly mane.
Anything contrary is silly mane, you don't gain experience by not fighting and not training. Unless your in the kof verse that is.

Originally posted by brainchild81

They wouldn't even sign up to fight the world's best if they weren't fighters.

Of course they will, because they know and their writers no they will win.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Are you drunk mane, you consistently claim iori is stronger than terry. So, if he is (According to you), than he must be doing something that terry isn't, mane.Read what I said about black belts in the other thread. You think anybody who dedicates themself to basketball will just turn into Jordan? Any boxer just trains hard and he's M.Ali? Train hard @ MMA & you just become Chuck Liddell? All men are not created equal in a physical or mental sense. We're only equal in the eyes of whoever you believe in. Some people will be better than others @ things. Some cats have more of "it" than others do. Not fair, but it's life. 2 people can train just as hard @ the same thing & one will still probably have a slight edge. Back when there were just cave men fighting and nobody had invented the MAs the one who was just naturally better won.
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Anything contrary is silly mane, you don't gain experience by not fighting and not training. Unless your in the kof verse that is.
But they do fight and they do train, you alright?

Originally posted by brainchild81
Read what I said about black belts in the other thread. You think anybody who dedicates themself to basketball will just turn into Jordan? Any boxer just trains hard and he's M.Ali? Train hard @ MMA & you just become Chuck Liddell? All men are not created equal in a physical or mental sense. We're only equal in the eyes of whoever you believe in. Some people will be better than others @ things.

Not really, some people just understand things faster. but when it comes down to it, the man with more experience and knowledge of whatever craft, will beat "Talent".Why, because they will have a better feel for it due to the amount of time they sped perfecting it.

Jordan wasn't born the way he is, he said it himself. He just practised, alot. There is no such thing as natural talent in this world, you may understand something faster than others.But, that doesn't mean your born knowing how to do what your good at.



Originally posted by brainchild81

Some cats have more of "it" than others do. Not fair, but it's life. 2 people can train just as hard @ the same thing & one will still probably have a slight edge. Back when there were just cave men fighting and nobody had invented the MAs the one who was just naturally better won.
But they do fight and they do train, you alright?

you don't need martial arts to win a fight, you just have to be good at what you do, martial arts just gives you an edge. Like I said before, hardwork overcomes any natural talent.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Not really, some people just understand things faster.Doesn't that mean they are better @ understanding things then?

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
but when it comes down to it, the man with more experience and knowledge of whatever craft, will beat "Talent".Why, because they will have a better feel for it due to the amount of time they sped perfecting it.That guy who understands things faster will reach a higher level than that other guy in less time w/less training.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Jordan wasn't born the way he is, he said it himself. He just practised, alot.So anybody who practices as much as he did will be as good as he is then?
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
you don't need martial arts to win a fight, you just have to be good at what you do, martial arts just gives you an edge. Like I said before, hardwork overcomes any natural talent. Sounds good on paper but it's just not true. Not all the time & you know it. What about the guy who trains all his life for a marathon & loses

Originally posted by brainchild81
Doesen't that mean they are better @ understanding things then?
That depends, sometimes yes, sometimes no. It dpends on how much they delve into a particular field.

Originally posted by brainchild81

That guy who understands things faster will reach a higher level than that other guy in less thime.

Fast development doesn't produce the best results, just quick results. The slower something develops, the more solid the results are.

Originally posted by brainchild81

So anybody who practices as much as he did will be as good as he is then?
Not all the time & you know it.

When I was in highschool there were a few talneted basketball players. I mean these guys could cross the hell out of you, but as talented as they were. They shot improperly, and didn't know jack about the basics of B-Ball. These guy's could make it to the NBA, But not knowing the basics would kill them in the long run. Jordan did B-Ball by the book, and worked really hard. Not much people do that mane, and even if there was another player as good or better than jordan. They most likely wouldn't get the recognition he deserves.

Originally posted by brainchild81

Sounds good on paper but it's just not true. Not all the time & you know it. What about the guy who trains all his life for a marathon & loses

LOL, your using an example of someone losing to dismiss what I said, ok. Like I said Experience>Natural skill.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
That depends, sometimes yes, sometimes no. It dpends on how much they delve into a particular field.



Fast development doesn't produce the best results, just quick results. The slower something develops, the more solid the results are.



When I was in highschool there were a few talneted basketball players. I mean these guys could cross the hell out of you, but as talented as they were. They shot improperly, and didn't know jack about the basics of B-Ball. These guy's could make it to the NBA, But not knowing the basics would kill them in the long run. Jordan did B-Ball by the book, and worked really hard. Not much people do that mane, and even if there was another player as good or better than jordan. They most likely wouldn't get the recognition he deserves. True but you still didn't answer. Will the guy who works just as hard get just as good?



Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
LOL, your using an example of someone losing to dismiss what I said, ok. Like I said Experience>Natural skill. All the time? Depends on the amount of natural ability versus the amount of exp. & it's not like these naturals have no exp @ all. I hate Supes, but I'm not gonna be crazy enough to say Batman beats him h2h because Batman does Karate. Going 2 sleep now.

Originally posted by brainchild81
True but you still didn't answer. Will the guy who works just as hard get just as good?

Depends on the person, dedication. These things are not written in stone


Originally posted by brainchild81

All the time? Depends on the amount of natural skill versus the amount of exp. & it's not like these naturals have no exp @ all. Going 2 sleep now.
natural skill doesn't help you fully understand what your doing. No amount of natural skill can help you understand somethhing you do not know.

Originally posted by brainchild81
I hate Supes, but I'm not gonna be crazy enough to say Batman beats him h2h because Batman does Karate. Going 2 sleep now.
That's because supermans strength,speed ,and power are millions of times higher than batmans. It's not the same thing as what were talking about.

People people, I'm pretty sure Kyo and Iori train some times. How else would they be able to control the flame, know martial arts and defeat every KOF boss they came up against.

Originally posted by Remulous
People people, I'm pretty sure Kyo and Iori train some times. How else would they be able to control the flame, know martial arts and defeat every KOF boss they came up against.

Because of jobbing, and plot devices.

I just wanna get across that Kyo and Iori don't suck, they are very good.

Originally posted by Remulous
I just wanna get across that Kyo and Iori don't suck, they are very good.
well, I play as Iori, so I have no real beef with him. He's just isn't main character material, IMO.

But you do agree that they don't suck?

Originally posted by Remulous
But you do agree that they don't suck?
Kyo sucks, iori is okay, but they are both overrated.

Originally posted by brainchild81
Ken's a bit of a slacker, but he's still pretty tough because he's a natural and he's been training pretty hard recently. If you aren't Ryu level or higher, you are simply not beating Mr.Masters. Kim is a tough mofo & I've said before how SNK mistreated him to make others look good, but he's not beating Ken.

Exactly my point. I did not mean to hurt SNK lovers feelings when I said Ken outclassed Kim, but given Ken's track record against Ryu I consider him out of Kim's league, but certainly not by leaps and bounds.

i see your point, emp. oh and a little correction:
Ryu was 23 during SF1 right? if alpha2 took place 1 year after SF1 and Alpha3 took place 1 year after alpha2 and if Ryu is 25 in SFa3 then he'd be 23 in SF1. till SF1 Ryu didn't actually go out and fight people....given to assume since "stupidcom" haven't actually spoken of any of his fights during the time prior to SF1. so his fights in SF1 were his first ones. so basically Ryu has been fighting for 10 years now. I mean street fighting and not dojo sparring. you get my meaning. its only been 10 years for ryu as a FIGHTER.
Terry was on the streets of South town since he and Andy were toddlers. around the age 5 or 6 they were adopted by Jeff. till the age of 10 they lived together. and then Jeff was murdered. from 10 all the way till MOTW he's been on the streets and has been fighting all sorts of warriors. In MOTW he's 35. so that is TWENTY FIVE years of street fighting....almost 30 if you count his years before living with Jeff. That is 30 years of street fighting and 4 years of sparring and picking up on the little of "Jeff bogard brawling" that he could learn. if you ask me, terry has more experience as on FIGHTING then Ryu does. all this info is canon facts too.
if you look at their ages canonicaly, Ryu is 8 years Terry's senior (1964 and 1972 i think for Terry). that makes it 18 years of fighting on the streets for Ryu but still a whopping 30 years for Terry. so whether or not you agree that Terry>Ryu or Terry at least=Ryu you or anyone here cannot ignore how Terry is more seasoned than Ryu.


that is true. Kyo hates effort. wtf? what kind of hero is that? However, i think you're being a little unfair to Iori. Iori has always been known to train very hard. in fact he trained to the point of unconsciousness during the Orochi saga just to get his hands on Kyo. SNK seem to give credit here by making Iori seem stronger than Kyo on more than one occassion......so i do't know whats their problem with the likes of Terry, Ryo etc. i know you don't like Ryo, but Ryo too is a hardworker. give him at least that much
Terry doesn't TRAIN as Ryu does. he just goes and picks fights or because of his legend, people go around picking fights with him. his is more "practical" training and i think its more effective, especially on the streets of SouthTown where all sorts of warriors go around. NOt to mention how Terry travells the world too and even there he goes around fighting all sorts of opponents.
to wrap it up, Iori does train hard and deserves credit. Ryo too. kyo is a gifted and overrated idiot. K' is overrated too.

BTW would you agree with me that it was almost disrespectful of SNK to parr Kyo and not Terry against Ryu. i think these two live similar lives and follow the same path though their methods may differ. Heck even Terry does hard labor to stay in shape! after all this they put Ken and him....with no disrespect intended, but i think Ken is by no means in Terry's league. it would have been a classic to see Terry and Ryu agaisnt each other.


ditto.

Later emperor.
~Sado
P.S. do you know where superboy or whoever gets the info that Terry and Ken tied? i never read such a thing. in fact i read somewhere that Terry beat Ken but it was on a Ken fansite so i don't know if its canon. Terry and Ken do know each other by the way, you know that?

Originally posted by Sado22
i see your point, emp. oh and a little correction:
Ryu was 23 during SF1 right? if alpha2 took place 1 year after SF1 and Alpha3 took place 1 year after alpha2 and if Ryu is 25 in SFa3 then he'd be 23 in SF1. till SF1 Ryu didn't actually go out and fight people....given to assume since "stupidcom" haven't actually spoken of any of his fights during the time prior to SF1. so his fights in SF1 were his first ones. so basically Ryu has been fighting for 10 years now. I mean street fighting and not dojo sparring. you get my meaning. its only been 10 years for ryu as a FIGHTER.

I know he wasn't Street Fighting prior to SF1, I said he trained in goukens dojo for ten years, and then started Street Fighting in Alpha 3.

Originally posted by Sado22

Terry was on the streets of South town since he and Andy were toddlers. around the age 5 or 6 they were adopted by Jeff. till the age of 10 they lived together. and then Jeff was murdered. from 10 all the way till MOTW he's been on the streets and has been fighting all sorts of warriors. In MOTW he's 35. so that is TWENTY FIVE years of street fighting....almost 30 if you count his years before living with Jeff. That is 30 years of street fighting and 4 years of sparring and picking up on the little of "Jeff bogard brawling" that he could learn. if you ask me, terry has more experience as on FIGHTING then Ryu does. all this info is canon facts too.

Hold on sado, first of all ryu's Street Fighting is pretty muched accounted for. He's fought over 10,000 opponents , he may not have been street fighting as long as terry I know that. but, in order to have more experince the number of fighters has to be accounted for as well.

Originally posted by Sado22

if you look at their ages canonicaly, Ryu is 8 years Terry's senior (1964 and 1972 i think for Terry). that makes it 18 years of fighting on the streets for Ryu but still a whopping 30 years for Terry. so whether or not you agree that Terry>Ryu or Terry at least=Ryu you or anyone here cannot ignore how Terry is more seasoned than Ryu.

What about the number of opponents sado, and you can't say terry is more seasoned simply because he's been Street Fighting longer.Terry is a "Street Brawler", so street fighting is what he does best. But, ryu has fought over 10'000 opponenets that can't be ignored. If Street Fighting was theonlything that mattered then Ryu would be stronger than gouki.

Originally posted by Sado22

that is true. Kyo hates effort. wtf? what kind of hero is that? However, i think you're being a little unfair to Iori. Iori has always been known to train very hard. in fact he trained to the point of unconsciousness during the Orochi saga just to get his hands on Kyo. SNK seem to give credit here by making Iori seem stronger than Kyo on more than one occassion......so i do't know whats their problem with the likes of Terry, Ryo etc. i know you don't like Ryo, but Ryo too is a hardworker. give him at least that much

C'mon, is that really a big feat? Training to the point of losing consciousness, I mean I've done that for peet sake. I'm sure Ryu, Terry, and many other fighters have done that. And as for Ryo, man, the only time I give him props is when he's Mr.Karate and that's only because I use takuma.



Originally posted by Sado22

Terry doesn't TRAIN as Ryu does. he just goes and picks fights or because of his legend, people go around picking fights with him. his is more "practical" training and i think its more effective, especially on the streets of SouthTown where all sorts of warriors go around. NOt to mention how Terry travells the world too and even there he goes around fighting all sorts of opponents.


Ryu does the samething, and does strict training regiments. I don't see how that's a big deal, there both famous in there respective universes so, they are about the same. Though I think Terry might be a little more seasoned. Ryu's up there nonetheless.

Originally posted by Sado22

to wrap it up, Iori does train hard and deserves credit. Ryo too. kyo is a gifted and overrated idiot. K' is overrated too.
All the flame users are overrated, have your read those HK comics where Iori beats terry all the time?

Originally posted by Sado22

BTW would you agree with me that it was almost disrespectful of SNK to parr Kyo and not Terry against Ryu. i think these two live similar lives and follow the same path though their methods may differ. Heck even Terry does hard labor to stay in shape! after all this they put Ken and him....with no disrespect intended, but i think Ken is by no means in Terry's league. it would have been a classic to see Terry and Ryu agaisnt each other.

I agree'd with everyhting in that post, read what I said in the terry vs ken thread. People claimed ken could beat terry, I was like WTF? Ken would give terry a good fight, But c'mon.



Originally posted by Sado22

Later emperor.
~Sado
P.S. do you know where superboy or whoever gets the info that Terry and Ken tied? i never read such a thing. in fact i read somewhere that Terry beat Ken but it was on a Ken fansite so i don't know if its canon. Terry and Ken do know each other by the way, you know that?
I really don't know, terry should be aliitle well above ken, and on par with ryu or possibly stronger.

Originally posted by Sado22
if you look at their ages canonicaly, Ryu is 8 years Terry's senior (1964 and 1972 i think for Terry


A little correction there Sado. The Great Terry Bogard was born on March 15, 1973

Originally posted by Sado22
that is true. Kyo hates effort. wtf? what kind of hero is that?


I have never thought of Kyo as a good fighting hero...I'm sorry. I admit he does train a little, but I recall hearing alot from his profile he is quite arrogent plus he treats someone that looks up to him like crap(Shingo)


Originally posted by Sado22
Terry doesn't TRAIN as Ryu does. he just goes and picks fights or because of his legend, people go around picking fights with him. his is more "practical" training and i think its more effective, especially on the streets of SouthTown where all sorts of warriors go around. NOt to mention how Terry travells the world too and even there he goes around fighting all sorts of opponents.


Yep. Also I might add that Terry lives for the fight. It is not about "winning" but enjoying the fight itself whoever Terry is going up against. If the oppenent should happen to be stronger, it's both a test and thrill for Terry.

Originally posted by Sado22
to wrap it up, Iori does train hard and deserves credit. Ryo too. kyo is a gifted and overrated idiot. K' is overrated too.


I will admit Iori does train and yes Ryo does deserve credit, because he trains his ass off as well. I agree Kyo is overrated, but I don't see that the case with K'.

Originally posted by Sado22
BTW would you agree with me that it was almost disrespectful of SNK to parr Kyo and not Terry against Ryu. i think these two live similar lives and follow the same path though their methods may differ. Heck even Terry does hard labor to stay in shape! after all this they put Ken and him....with no disrespect intended, but i think Ken is by no means in Terry's league. it would have been a classic to see Terry and Ryu agaisnt each other.


I couldn't agree more with this whole statement. Everytime I see Ryu facing off against Kyo be it poster or the intro to the game, it makes me sick to my f**king stomach. Kyo would be a perfect theif, because he steals everything. As I said time and time again the only reason Kyo got to rival The Great Ryu, is due to the fact that KOF is SNKP's biggest cash cow(with the help of FF and AOF) and he just happened to be the main character of that game.

You know even though Terry seemed like Ken's rival, I got the queezy feeling that Iori has taken that spot. Even though Terry is rivaled to Ken, I get this feeling he is in a sense more rivaled to Guile. I think this crap is because Ryu is Ken's rival and Kyo is Iori's rival. You understand what I am getting at.


Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
All the flame users are overrated, have your read those HK comics where Iori beats terry all the time?


I agree with Kyo and Iori, but not K. At least with K' in the HK comics, he struggles against Terry and Ryo and he does not tool and breeze past teams like Kusanagi and Yagami. Iori once tooled the entire Fatal Fury Team and that was after Tooling the entire Korean Team

That's how he rolls. I gotta see some of these HK comics. Geese is getting the respect he deserves in the SVC books. He whooped on Terry & a few others @ the same time. Before the fight Terry said "I'm glad I get to kill you again Geese". Geese says, "The godess of luck doesn't smile on the same man twice Terry". He later tells Kyo that he's not MUCH better than Terry. With all this heart Terry has, why didn't he just beat O.Iori's ass by himself? Heart overcomes anything right?


Ken fights a much higher level of competion than Terry does. The south town fighters he beats on aren't good enough to be in the games & FF cast was there to make Terry look good. Terry's a damn good role model but that simply won't mean s*it in a fight.Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
That depends, sometimes yes, sometimes no. It dpends on how much they delve into a particular field. Nah. If 2 people are learning the same stuff and 1 understands it faster, he's better at understanding.Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Depends on the person, dedication. These things are not written in stone
That's what I've been saying from the get go. But you still seem to think more training & exp = victory all the time. The dedication is the same in the example I gave. It does depend on the person because some people just have more capacity for certain stuff. Not fair, but neither is life.

Originally posted by brainchild81

Ken fights a much higher level of competion than Terry does. The south town fighters he beats on aren't good enough to be in the games & FF cast was there to make Terry look good.

And the fighters from the us martials tournament are supposed to any better?

Please stop the terry hate brainchild, do you honestly believe fighting in a sanctioned tournament makes more seasoned then fighting in the streets where there are no rules whatsoever.



Originally posted by brainchild81


Nah. If 2 people are learning the same stuff and 1 understands it faster, he's better at understanding.

No, it doesn't, it just means he learns faster.

Originally posted by brainchild81
That's what I've been saying from the get go. But you still seem to think more training & exp = victory all the time. The dedication is the same in the example I gave. It does depend on the person because some people just have more capacity for certain stuff. Not fair, but neither is life.

I never said that, infact I even told you the human element plays a role in whatever field your in. Some people learn faster than other but that doesn't mean they have better understanding of said subject. On the contrary it just means they have a quicker understanding. And, when has Iori or Kto's "Natural Talent" ever played a role in their fights? Most of their victories are flame related.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
And the fighters from the us martials tournament are supposed to any better?

Please stop the terry hate brainchild, do you honestly believe fighting in a sanctioned tournament makes more seasoned then fighting in the streets where there are no rules whatsoever.Was talking about fighting Ryu. That's better than fighting guys who are just around to make you look good(entire FF cast)

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
No, it doesn't, it just means he learns faster.Then if they both train for the same time who's going to be better?
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
I never said that, infact I even told you the human element plays a role in whatever field your in. Some people learn faster than other but that doesn't mean they have better understanding of said subject. On the contrary it just means they have a quicker understanding. And, when has Iori or Kto's "Natural Talent" ever played a role in their fights? Most of their victories are flame related. Against bosses. Terry never uses his chi in his fights? Double standards run rampant here.

Originally posted by brainchild81
Was talking about fighting Ryu. That's better than fighting guys who are just around to make you look good(entire FF cast
Fatal Fury Fighters have the capability to kick some ass, it's just that they aren't written properly.And ryu did the same thing until capcom retconned some street fighter plot elements.


Originally posted by brainchild81

Then if they both train for the same time who's going to be better?


Depends on the person attitude, and how he applies what he learns and how far he's willing to go.This is the second time I'm answering this, btw.

Originally posted by brainchild81

Against bosses. Terry never uses his chi in his fights? Double standards run rampant here.
Is terry's ki a plot device like the flames?

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Fatal Fury Fighters have the capability to kick some ass, it's just that they aren't written properly.Bingo. Bad writing didn't start w/Kyo.




Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Depends on the person attitude, and how he applies what he learns and how far he's willing to go.This is the second time I'm answering this, btw.You're dancing around it. Are you saying everybody has the same potential?
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Is terry's ki a plot device like the flames? The flames are only a pd when they fight Orochi. The flames affect everybody else the same way, hurting none more than they would another. Their chi is manifested in flames.

Originally posted by brainchild81
Bingo. Bad writing didn't start w/Kyo. But, it was perfected around him.



Originally posted by brainchild81

You're dancing around it. Are you saying everybody has the same potential?

This ain't dragonballZ brainchild, people aren't born with knowledge of things they do not know. Again, it depends on the human element, which cannot be measured because you can't duplicate actions to the tee. this isn't some cartoon, even if two people followed the same training regiment for everday for ten years. There would still be changes that would effect the result. It could be one extra push up, waking up 1 second earlier, taking longer breaks,etc.At first these changes may be insignificant,but with time they will effect the result.

Originally posted by brainchild81

The flames are only a pd when they fight Orochi. The flames affect everybody else the same way, hurting none more than they would another. Their chi is manifested in flames.

So, your denying the flames are a plot device despite being called sacred and being sought after by nest and ash?

Wow, the fanboysim is so clear.

I'd like to comment that Ryu lives to fight as well. He no longer cares about winning or losing; his way past those newbie days when he overcame the Satsui No hadou.

huh? *reads over post*
oops, my bad. i actually wanted to say "clarification". oh and he started Street fighting right after SF1 didn't he since that was when gouken died and ryu decided to go on his journey.


yeah i get your point, but if in 10 years Ryu faced 10,000 opponents, for all we know, terry's faced 100,000! the thing is SNK never gave a proper figure of how many fighters terry has faced. however in 25 years living in a town full of fighter, travelling the world and taking part in the annual KoF tournament probably means that he has AT LEAST fought as many opponents as Ryu. also Terry fought PEOPLE DAILY in the 10 years he was training to face Geese. if you ask me thats more than 10000 already. the point i'm trying to make is that in 25 years spent of his life fighting in a town full of fighter and taking part in tournaments and fighting around the world would most definitely mean that Terry has fought more opponents.
also Terry has taken part in more tournaments than ryu. Ryu, the only ones we know of, are SF1, SF2 and SF3 (and there is some other one that you were talking about which i don't know of). Terry's fought in, KoF1, KoF2, KoF MI, KoF MI2, Kof 94-XI, RB, and possibly RB2 (if its canon). that's a hellova lot more than Ryu too.


as i said above.


you a martial artist? which ones do you practise in?
Mr.Karate is badass, dude. you cannot not like him.


dude iori beats EVERYONE in that thing. but you know whats actually worse than all that:
some people *cough* brain *cough* actually use that as canon facts to prove a point.
*jabs a brain*


exactly. with all due respect to ken, but he isn't in terry's league whatsoever. good fight yes. but he aint winning it. not now. not ever.


dude don't get me started! that was the lameass KoF96 comics. for those of you who don't know:
-iori takes on EVERYONE.
-iori wins
-iori then takes on remaing Kim's team, fatal fury team, and pwns them. Iori breaks Terry's arm with an oniyaki.....and we'd see Terry do a triple geyser like 10 minutes later
-iori then takes on "Tekken" team. no kdding. tekken team which has "Dark" (a total and shameful ripoff of Jin. even has the same threads), Tina (an bad anna ripoff with the same dress only green) and some other jackass who was EXACTLY a ripoff of King.
-Iori kills Dark
-Iori fights Geonitz (gonuts...ahahah) and loses like ****ing FINALLY BIDGE!

P-Geyser, K' is overrated in the sense that for a 17 year old he's on parr with people like Terry, Ryo etc even though he has had no training whatsoever. that's overrated. at least Rock had training from Terry. the only thing going for K' is that he has Kyo's flames.....and probably that explains the overratedness.

thanx dude. and now you know why sucked at history!

that is true. he's a lazy bum whose arrogant as hell and keeps on failing high school till the point that now at 27 (technically speaking) he still hasn't passed high school. dumbass. he does treat people like shit as well but that is cuz he's an arrogant prick. nonetheless, and don't ask me why, but Kyo is still one of my fav KoF guys.


ditto. makes me sick to the gut. also i get pissed off with the fact that they didn't have alex there! bastards! first they make him win the tournament cuz Gill lets him and then he goes on to lose perfect to Ryu. cap-dumbass-com

heh that's true. in fact for the promo video and poster of the first CvsSNK they had Kyo/Ryu, Iori/Ken and Terry/Guile.
but mane, i think terry will turn guile upside down and clean his apartment with his head when its all said and done. Guile doesn't stand a chance. now Vandame versus Terry i really WOULD like to see

See ya later guys!
~Sado

and now for you "curly"

you better not if you don't to have your eyes bleed out of their socket. seriously dude don't. its bad, sad and everything else that is wrong with this world.
oh and get the **** out of my face with teh comics shit. how many times do i have to tell you: ITS NOT CANON
when its all said and done terry beat Geese in FF1 and then killed him in FFRB even though Geese was godtier Nightmare Geese. canon facts over your comic "canon" facts.
brain, we all like geese as much as you do but seriously when its all said and done, he's terry's personal bidge!


that's a laugh.
brainy, the only "fights" we know of ken taking part in are:
-against troubled ryu
-against school girls (sakura and that ugly stupid sluty dumbas karin)
-against his own student, sean
-getting his nuts punched by his son, mel
-geting ***** slapped by Eliza for trying to date Morrigan
-against Ryu in sF2 (which he most likely won)
-against Ryu in SF3 (which he canonwise lost)
-fighting Bison (the only other FIGHT we know of) that we know ken to take part in and he had a school girl help him.

aside from that he's fought in the US martial arts tournament. for all we know he's fighting school girls there too
bottom line, ken faces even worse level of competition than how you CLAIM Terry to.
terry's fought Geese, Krauser, Jin twins, Kyo, Iori, K', Ash, Ryo, Andy, Yamazaki, O.Iori, Orochi team, Orochi, Ignitz. ALL of these people will SCHOOL Ken anyday in the week and NONE of these ever beat Terry. bad competition...you said it


you mean: if two people are learning the same thing and dumbass writers make the other learn faster due to crap like destiny


i guess you're right here, somewhat.


and yet he isn't the star of KoF series.
also the FF cast aren't all weak as you say they are. in fact in the opening of FFRBS, Terry is getting hsi ass smacked around through walls by Krauser. Yamazaki was schooling Terry as well in FF3, till honfu jumped in and told terry to go after the jins. Jins were schooling him too. Kim gave terry a good fight in FF2. Ryo was schooling him the opening of MI2. compare that to how:
-Ryu goes and defeats the new SF champ (alex) PERFECT.
-Ken schools Sean in the qaulifying rounds

to me that is robbing the new generation. Terry didn't rob Rock in FFMOTW now did he? now whose trying to make who look too damn good. get real.


he does. but you aren't seeing the guy's point. terry didn't beat geese cuz it was crap like destiny or "special ki". terry's moves weren't designed to take on geese's. kyo and iori's flames were destined to defeat Orochi and were the perfect weapon agasint it. kyo and iori beat Orochi cuz it was their destiny. that's bull and you know it.


ahem....no, brain, you're wrong. the flames are "sacred" cuz they are designed against Orochi. that is why though terry and the others were there with Kyo and Iori, they weren't able to seal Orochi.
Iori flames= freeze Orochi power (8 cups of wine)
Kyo flames= defeat it (orochinagi)
yatta = seals it away (whatever the **** she does)
still need a dictionary?

LAter brain.
~Sado
P.S. you love terry bogard. you know it. don't deny it. I'm sure iori will understand

Originally posted by Sado22
dude don't get me started! that was the lameass KoF96 comics. for those of you who don't know:
-iori takes on EVERYONE.
-iori wins
-iori then takes on remaing Kim's team, fatal fury team, and pwns them. Iori breaks Terry's arm with an oniyaki.....and we'd see Terry do a triple geyser like 10 minutes later
-iori then takes on "Tekken" team. no kdding. tekken team which has "Dark" (a total and shameful ripoff of Jin. even has the same threads), Tina (an bad anna ripoff with the same dress only green) and some other jackass who was EXACTLY a ripoff of King.
-Iori kills Dark
-Iori fights Geonitz (gonuts...ahahah) and loses like ****ing FINALLY BIDGE!


Yep. That is way worse than how Terry was potrayed in the animes fighting, or no fighting a god. In the FF2 anime, Terry did not breeze past Kim or Andy, Geese, Krauser. Imagine if that was Iori(shudders) he would tool everybody with an entire finger


Originally posted by Sado22
P-Geyser, K' is overrated in the sense that for a 17 year old he's on parr with people like Terry, Ryo etc even though he has had no training whatsoever. that's overrated. at least Rock had training from Terry. the only thing going for K' is that he has Kyo's flames.....and probably that explains the overratedness.


I see what your getting at and great point. I was merely pointing out that he does not go around pulling the insane B.S. that Kyo and Iori seem to pull.


Originally posted by Sado22
thanx dude. and now you know why sucked at history!


No problem dude...always willing to help a Terry fan out.


Originally posted by Sado22
that is true. he's a lazy bum whose arrogant as hell and keeps on failing high school till the point that now at 27 (technically speaking) he still hasn't passed high school. dumbass. he does treat people like shit as well but that is cuz he's an arrogant prick. nonetheless, and don't ask me why, but Kyo is still one of my fav KoF guys.


Yeah that one is beyond me. As I said Kyo in the actual fighting game is okay, it's just his character and how he got were he is that urks me.


Originally posted by Sado22
ditto. makes me sick to the gut. also i get pissed off with the fact that they didn't have alex there! bastards! first they make him win the tournament cuz Gill lets him and then he goes on to lose perfect to Ryu. cap-dumbass-com


hehehe...understandable. The way in KOF MI 1&2, Mary,King, should have been in there instead of Athena and Mai. As well in Chaos, how the hell are you not going to have Haohmaru but Earthquake and Genjuro and Shiki. SNKP is on some serious stuff.


Originally posted by Sado22
heh that's true. in fact for the promo video and poster of the first CvsSNK they had Kyo/Ryu, Iori/Ken and Terry/Guile.
but mane, i think terry will turn guile upside down and clean his apartment with his head when its all said and done. Guile doesn't stand a chance. now Vandame versus Terry i really WOULD like to see



Yep due to Kyo and Iori's overrated and neverending rivalry. As I said those two can be professional mastertheifs. I agee with Terry vs Guile...not to take anything away from Guile cause I actually like him.

Originally posted by Sado22

yeah i get your point, but if in 10 years Ryu faced 10,000 opponents, for all we know, terry's faced 100,000! the thing is SNK never gave a proper figure of how many fighters terry has faced. however in 25 years living in a town full of fighter, travelling the world and taking part in the annual KoF tournament probably means that he has AT LEAST fought as many opponents as Ryu.
But, that's just speculation sado, 10,000 is alot. We can't just assume they fought the same amount or more because he's terry. Also, Kof contradicts the timeline of fatal fury,


Originally posted by Sado22

also Terry fought PEOPLE DAILY in the 10 years he was training to face Geese. if you ask me thats more than 10000 already. the point i'm trying to make is that in 25 years spent of his life fighting in a town full of fighter and taking part in tournaments and fighting around the world would most definitely mean that Terry has fought more opponents.

But, like I said before that's speculation, you can't draw a conclusion from pure speculation.

But, I get your point terry spent ten years longer than ryu Street Fighting.


Originally posted by Sado22

also Terry has taken part in more tournaments than ryu. Ryu, the only ones we know of, are SF1, SF2 and SF3 (and there is some other one that you were talking about which i don't know of). Terry's fought in, KoF1, KoF2, KoF MI, KoF MI2, Kof 94-XI, RB, and possibly RB2 (if its canon). that's a hellova lot more than Ryu too.

MI is a seperate timeline, and as for KOF you know that it's timeline makes no sense. My point is ryu's record is clear, over 10'000 opponents and still going. Terry's is ambiogous, and kof isn't helping.
But, I get your point, realistically terry should have fought more since ryu was a "Dojo Dork" for about half his life versus terry who was a brawler. Still, I have to note, ryu trains really hard, he lifted a boulder for hours. And, he might train with oro, who has a training regiment which know one has survived yet.




Originally posted by Sado22

you a martial artist? which ones do you practise in?
Mr.Karate is badass, dude. you cannot not like him.


I did some shotokan for about half a year, quit and did some self taught things likeand boxed a little along with lifting weights.
Mr.Karate is the man.

Originally posted by Sado22

dude iori beats EVERYONE in that thing. but you know whats actually worse than all that:
some people *cough* brain *cough* actually use that as canon facts to prove a point.
*jabs a brain*
I'm glad I'm not the only who see's that.





Originally posted by Sado22

ditto. makes me sick to the gut. also i get pissed off with the fact that they didn't have alex there! bastards! first they make him win the tournament cuz Gill lets him and then he goes on to lose perfect to Ryu. cap-dumbass-com
He won a vale tudo against balrog, so, don't get too mad. Alex was a Dojo Dork like ryu, when ryu beat him he decided to become a Street Fighter.

Originally posted by Sado22



that's a laugh.
brainy, the only "fights" we know of ken taking part in are:
-against troubled ryu
-against school girls (sakura and that ugly stupid sluty dumbas karin)
-against his own student, sean
-getting his nuts punched by his son, mel
-geting ***** slapped by Eliza for trying to date Morrigan
-against Ryu in sF2 (which he most likely won)
-against Ryu in SF3 (which he canonwise lost)
-fighting Bison (the only other FIGHT we know of) that we know ken to take part in and he had a school girl help him.

He fought in a local tournament and won, that's hwere he met sean. And. . . Don't make fun karin

Originally posted by Sado22

aside from that he's fought in the US martial arts tournament. for all we know he's fighting school girls there too

He won the US martial arts tournament 3 times, but he's no terry.


Originally posted by Sado22

you mean: if two people are learning the same thing and dumbass writers make the other learn faster due to crap like destiny
Terry fans unite!




Originally posted by Sado22

-Ryu goes and defeats the new SF champ (alex) PERFECT.
-Ken schools Sean in the qaulifying rounds

Alex & Sean are weak, though in comparison to ken and ryu.Infact, most of the new street fighters are, because they are teenagers and rookies. Would you really like NOOB fighters to beat Ryu and ken?

i belive ken takes this. you have to be on ryu lvl to beat him or else you have no chance.

your fanboyism got stale a long time ago.
~Sado

Ken, could take, but so can kim.

I still say Ken, any one seen that Shoryuken, posibly Shinryuken in the Alpha movie. That move was damn cool.

Ken takes Kim out. Seriously what has Kim done to make people think he can take Ken out?

being a crime fighting hero of Korea
fight guys with projectiles with ease
be the korean national champ

versus
Ken being 3 time american champ
and...?

~Sado

Wow. He is a crime fighting hero in Korea. So he beats up random thugs. Impressive. Ken also fights guys with projectiles and has projectiles of his own. 3 time Pan American champion plus he tangos with Ryu on a regular basis.

Thanks for answering my question Ken slaughters Kim.

Dude most of ken's opponents have been hardly a match. aside from Bison and Ryu, the only fights we know ken to have taken part in are against school girls (Karin and sakura), his own crappy student (sean) or getting his nuts punched by his son, mel.
Ken and Kim;s are both national champs, however Kim manages to be on of the toughest fighters in the FF, KoF tournaments without projectiles while Ken does it with projectiles, kim has 6 students (May Lee, CHoi, Chang, the chick from KOMI, and his own two sons), is a family man like ken, but isn't a slacker, is a national hero and fights daily (unlike Mr. Ken-comfort-spray-painted-on-his-ass-Masters). Kim also is a famous rival of Yamazaki, Terry, Kim Jaehoon, Hon Fu. Ken's famous rivalry is with Ryu...and then school girls.
Kim has had better challenges, trains more, is more seasoned, fights daily and is a national champ and hero, has better combination, more speed, possibly stronger kicks too.

~Sado

WTF? Ken doesn't rely on the Hadouken as much as you make him out to do. Quite in fact there isn't a single Hadouken in his special arts which focus mainly on variations of the Shoryuken and his kicks combined with the tatsumaki sempukyaku. Ken doesn't slack since SFAlpha 2. Nothing about Kim suggests he is faster, nor stronger than Ken. THe **** does it matter he is a hero? Great he beats on whorthless thugs and all of a sudden he is Ryu busting material? Sorry, but no. Also in SF3 Ken is seen taking on Urien. Urien is no pushover just so you know. You're so biased it isn't funny.

To be honest I don't see Kim standing up after receiving a Shinryuken.

Originally posted by Sado22
Dude most of ken's opponents have been hardly a match. aside from Bison and Ryu, the only fights we know ken to have taken part in are against school girls (Karin and sakura), his own crappy student (sean) or getting his nuts punched by his son, mel.
Ken and Kim;s are both national champs, however Kim manages to be on of the toughest fighters in the FF, KoF tournaments without projectiles while Ken does it with projectiles, kim has 6 students (May Lee, CHoi, Chang, the chick from KOMI, and his own two sons), is a family man like ken, but isn't a slacker, is a national hero and fights daily (unlike Mr. Ken-comfort-spray-painted-on-his-ass-Masters). Kim also is a famous rival of Yamazaki, Terry, Kim Jaehoon, Hon Fu. Ken's famous rivalry is with Ryu...and then school girls.
Kim has had better challenges, trains more, is more seasoned, fights daily and is a national champ and hero, has better combination, more speed, possibly stronger kicks too.

~Sado No offense to Kim becuase I really like him, but nearly every important match that guy's been in he gets his ass whiped.

no love for kim.

kim's beaten terry once. that alone puts him in high level. he may have never won a kof tourny, but look who he usually teams up with(2 ex-convict students with no fighting pride). when has ken won a big sf tourny and beaten the likes of akuma, bison, etc.

ken is an american champion, while kim's a korean champ. doesn't make him better.

He doesnt just beat thugs, he makes them his students, against their will. which is a lot harder than what ken does with sean.

calm down superboy. using swear words and losing your cool doesn't make it any better. so chill and take it easy, this is a forum debate about characters that don't even exist. whats with the anger? if i don't agree with you its not the end of the world. i have an opinion and am entitled to it. the same way you're entitled to yours. i don't get worked up cuz YOU DON"T SEE IT MY WAY now do I?
-I mentioned Kim not using projectiles as an impressive feet against a roaster that has the bulk of fighters using projectiles. Ken has projectiles to match agaisnt projectiles so, with taking nothing away from Ken, its just not as impressive as Kim who matches projectiles with his speed, pwer and skill. isn't it impressive?
-i never said his beating on regular thugs makes him better than ryu. don't put words in my mouth. i said he fights daily unlike Ken who is not even a street fighter.
-Kim's pheonix combo is a blur. name on move of ken that travels that much distance as a blur. tell me he packs up those combos in shippujinreikyaku special as does Kim in phoenix combo. the new move ken does in CvsSNK2 which is like Sean's move (don't what its called but tis kinda like terry's crackshot) is WAY slower than Kim's split kick spinnning thing. forgot the name. hiaenzan or something (QB+k). hence, kim's faster.
-also ken going after Urien is not even canon so don't use it. aside from ken's fights with ryu and bison, he has had third rate competition in sean, karin and sakura. he has had lot crappier level of competition than Kim who has good fights with godtiers like yamazaki, and competition from tough opponents like terry bogard, hon fu, billy, freeman, Jhun and taking on a duo of Chang and CHoi. that's at least better than fighting school girls isn't it?
-I am not being biased and you know it. come up with something better to pull my leg with. i'm not the one blatanly refusing to see the other guy's point. you haven't used one reliable point to back what you're saying. i've been giving you facts, from canon facts and have been reasonable the whole time. so no...i'm not biased.
-i don't see kim getting up after a shinryuken either. i also don't see ken getting up after a phoenix combo.


kim NEVER beat Terry. they fought in a really really good fight but terry won. Kim NEVER beat terry bogard, dude.
~Sado

Actually I didn't lose my cool. WTF hardly classifies as losing control. Now if I started typing in CAPS and calling you names while making fun of your mama I'd say I lost control, but that is not the case, don't you agree?

Originally posted by Sado22
and not to mention doing all that and then laughing at them after its all said and done.
that really DOES rock.
sigh...if only life was that simple
think about it:
-imagine getting great grades without studying
-imagine getting a promotion at work without having to suck up to your boss...or suck your boss
-imagine getting a payraise for doing jackshit
-imagine pwning people at a game you never played before
-imagine getting all the chicks without having to go around chasing them
-imagine getting free porn without having to search for it

damn life would be so good!

~Sado

I owned people when I played F.E.A.R for the first time <____<;;;V and I used to get good grades without trying, but that was in high school. >__>;

Why did I quote this old post...well **** if I know. =D

*i hope emperor reads what you typed*
anyway, its good that you're not pissed. heh, so does this mean that you agree with my post and Kim>>Ken.


...be damned if i knew.
well i pwned people in all the SF's i ever played. pwned people in all the KoF's i played. even pwned people in Tekken and virtua fighter. i guess i'm a natural. wanna go for a Ken vs Kim in CvsSNK2...you know you want to!

see ya later dude.
~Sado

Originally posted by Sado22
*i hope emperor reads what you typed*
anyway, its good that you're not pissed. heh, so does this mean that you agree with my post and Kim>>Ken.


...be damned if i knew.
well i pwned people in all the SF's i ever played. pwned people in all the KoF's i played. even pwned people in Tekken and virtua fighter. i guess i'm a natural. wanna go for a Ken vs Kim in CvsSNK2...you know you want to!

see ya later dude.
~Sado

Still not convinced

And I would, but I don't have CvsSNK2. Unless you're talking emulators.

Yo brainy!
nice to see. hopefully christmas went good for ya.
i was actually going to PM you since i haven't seen you here for a while (see this is how much Terry fans care for people)

my apologies if you are offended but i was under that impression since you were mentioning that Iori pwns terry all the time in teh comics, despite me telling you countless times that comics aren't canon. then you also mentioned Geese pwning terry in the snkvsCacpcom comics. that is why i felt that you think that comics are canon (and i HAVE told you countless times that comics/anime aint canon). nonetheless sorry briany.

what you say here is your opinion and you're entitled to it. i respect that. however, and i said this to you before too (or maybe to emperor during the days were nuking each other) fans will always be guilty of overrating their fav character. its a given thing. no matter how fair i try to be or anyone else, he or she wil always overate thier fav character however slightly.
now as far as me saying Terry>Ken. well emp and i were actually discussing Ryu and Terry a little while back and you can read it here as well on this thread. Firstly i'll talk about Ryu and Terry, and then you can do the math and see where Terry and Ken stand:
-experience: dude, Terry's been fighting for well over 25 years now. he was even fighting on the streets when Jeff discovered him and andy. he lived for a few years with Jeff but at the age of 10 Jeff was killed by his "future personal *****" Geese. *unblockable jab* since then terry's been fighting on the streets of southtown that is loaded with good fighters from all disciplines. terry EVERY DAY for 10 years to prepare him for his fight with Geese. he won and then still remained on the streets. by MOTW he's STILL on the streets and is 35 years old. that is a whooping 25 years on the streets...and almost 30 if you count his yeras fighing prior to Jeff finding him. and most definitely he's fought WAY MORE opponents than Ryu since he's been not only fighting for longer but also across the world like Ryu and in Southtown itself where there are fighters roaming all the time. Ryu's only been on the streets since the age of 23 and he's been a dojo nerd for all the yeras before. you have around 30 years of fighting experience versus 10.
-speed: no question about it. Terry's a lot faster than Ryu. in fact buster wolf and shining knuckle not only take more life than shinshoryuken but are A LOT faster. they are both a damn blur.
-power: this one is arguable. the fact that moves like shiningknuckle, powerstream, triple geyser and rising beat take more than shinshoryuken can be used but then that's only ingame. so i don't know.
-career: you have 25-30 years of fighting and an unbeaten record against ryu's multiple loses to even non-godtier opponents.

see, brainy, like him or hate him, terry's got a better "fighting portfolio" than Ryu. plus aside from Bison, Oro and Akuma (who wasn't even fighting as shin akuma) Ryu hasn't faced that hightier characters. Hugo was midtier. Ken is below Ryu. Sagat is probably more even (and he was even defeated as Psycho Ryu). yet he was defeated by them all.
Kyo, Iori, Ryo etc are all at the same tier as Terry yet none eveer beat him. the fact that he was "saved by the bell" can even be used agaisnt Kyo and the others too. you get my meaning? aside from taht Terry's fought KRauser (godtier in FF timeline), Yamazaki (godtier in FF timeline), Geese, Nightmare Geese (another godtier), Jin twins, Grant and he defeated them all ONE ON ONE (and one on TWO in jins' case). Yes, Geese helped him sort of by weakening the Jin's but they were still pounding terry for the bulk of the fight and he had already come after getting his ass kicked by Yamazaki.

compare that to Ken whose only notable fights were with Ryu, Bison (with sakura helping him), Karin, Sakura and Sean. the guy practically has comfort spray painted on his ass, and his only notable fights are with school girls and rookies. yes he's fought in the martial arts tourny of US, but then if you claim terry's level of competition in a city full of fighters (southown) was too lame, i can very well tell you that for all we know ken's been fighting school girls even in the US martial arts tourny
for further analysis:
-experience: ken's not even a street fighter. so forget about this one.
-speed: terry again. NOT ONE move or special of Ken is as fast as burn knuckle or as fast as busterwolf and shining knuckle. tell me is it? shippujinrei isn't, shoryureppa isn't, nor is shinryuken. tatsumaki senpukykau is ken's fastest move yet its no where near terry's burn knuckle. also the Sean-rip-off move ken does in CvsSNK2 is similar to terry's crackshot yet if you compare the speed again, terry's is a lot faster.
-power: ken's weaker than ryu (canonwise). and IMO in ryu and terry's comparison i sort of showed that atleast as far as games are concerned, terry pwns ryu even in speed.
-career: nothing to say here.

Terry totally OUTCLASSES ken.
to be contd>>

i have ryu getting beat up by the bulk of the people there cuz to me him pounding people for the past 10 years with THREE moves is got stale LONG ago.
Terry, Ryo, Kyo, Iori, ALba have ALL FOUGHT PEOPLE WITH SIMILAR MOVES. yet ryu has never faced such opponents. also all of these guys have taken on godtiers and defeated them. Ryu hasn't. all of these guys have never lost to people below them interms of tier. ryu has (ken). did kyo lose to beni? did ryo ever lose to robert? did terry ever lose to andy? did alba lose to soiree?
you said sometime back that you think i'm one of the more logical posters here. well, you tell me:
isn't it "logical" to assume that against people who've done EVERYTHING that he hasn't and have done things he has, that they win agaisnt him?
as for Kazuya, Jin, and hachi go again its simple:
-i don't see ryu surving the honmaru blast
-i don't see ryu surving falling off a cliff at the age of 8
-i don't see him breaking 7foot bulletproof armored robots in half with one body blow
-i don't see him picking up one 7foot bulletproof armored robot, ramming it into 5 others, shattering them and then flinging the robot 20-30 feet away into a giant buddha statue and shattering both statue ANd robot.
-i don't see ryu having hope against people who beat firebreathing/laser shooting demon, dragons and Ogre with their BAREHANDS.
-i don't see him beating people who can take on demons that can turn a whole lush green forest into a barren wasteland with their barehands (DJ in T5Jin profile wrecked the whole forest up yet he is only a fraction of Devil and not the full thing) so imagine what devil can do at full power.
-i dont see ryu having hope against a cast where cyborgs who can tear the top of a tank clean off and throw it 50 feet away into soldiers.
-i don't see him having hope against a cast where little school girls can punch peopple 40 feet away into bolders and shattering the bolder to little peices Asuka T5 ending)
-i don't see him having hope against a cast where people who can shatter a whole mountain with a palm strike are midtiers
-i don't see him having hope agianst a cast where people who can KO bears with one punch, break walls for daily warmup, and break human sized boulders to little pieces are high/mddle tiers.
-i dont see.................ah hell you get the point right? my fingers are hurting.
as for Yugo:
-he's faster
-definitely stronger since he even in human form could punch people 20feet away with a light hook (BR4 Nagi ending). can ryu do that? no.
-came out of an ICU unit without medical care and took on a whole organization.
with better chin, speed, power and better combinations than ryu, i don't see any hope for him....again.


terry aint goodytwoshoes either. but kyo border closely towards "@$$hole". terry isn't punctual, isn't too smart, tends to goof up and is a total clutz when it comes to homecare etc.
ryu comes on time anywhere even though he doesn't have a watch! and on top of all that, even if he farts capcom will put the "farts like a true warrior" banner on him.


happy new year to you too!
take care, mane

~The Invincible Sado-sama

Originally posted by Sado22
terry's fought Geese, Krauser, Jin twins, Kyo, Iori, K', Ash, Ryo, Andy, Yamazaki, O.Iori, Orochi team, Orochi, Ignitz. ALL of these people will SCHOOL Ken anyday in the week and NONE of these ever beat Terry. bad competition...you said itGeese = jobbed & I heard Terry had Andy's help. Krauser = Not sure on that one but I've never thought too much of Krauser so I'll give Terry that one. Jin Twins = Terry had help from Geese & if they were GodTier as you claim they still should have crushed him early on. Kyo = He should've beat Terry but that would go against SNK's apparent rule about Terry. Terry still couldn't beat him despite all that good stuff he does that you guys love so much. Still not as good as Ryu who Ken has actually defeated & considering how Ken always trains less that speaks to his natural talent for fighting. Ryu > Kyo. Iori = He really should have Koed Terry and probably did beat him & his help if what you say about Iori reaching the finals by himself is true. Iori not kicking Terry's ass IS Iori jobbing. Iori vs. Ken would be so damn cool. K' = I like K', but I think Ken'd school him. Ryu>K'. I'd really like to hear definite canon stuff about Ash vs Terry. I hate Ash, but he seems to be pretty tough. Not sure if he could beat Ken though and I've heard nothing of Terry beating him. Ryo & Andy'd get curbstomped by Ken any day of the week. I still like Andy, but he's another guy who looks weaksause so Terry can shine. 'Zaki = Terry had help and still didn't beat him from what I've heard. "zaki should have laid him the f**k out like he did everyone else but Terry's always gotta look good O.Iori = Why would you even post that one? Terry had big time help. Terry vs O.Iori = Dead @ss Terry & you know it. F**k heart! Iori'd rip that sh*t right out of Terry's chest Same w/Orochi & Igniz. Let Terry or lame-o fight them w/out the help of Iori or Kyo and see what happens. His heart will not save him. Basically Terry's jobbed alot of people & had a lot of help. Ken doesn't seem to rely on either of those. TERRY FANS CALM DOWN!Originally posted by Sado22
i guess you're right here, somewhat.Entirely. Some just have more of it than others. Originally posted by Sado22
and yet he isn't the star of KoF series.
also the FF cast aren't all weak as you say they are. in fact in the opening of FFRBS, Terry is getting hsi ass smacked around through walls by Krauser. Yamazaki was schooling Terry as well in FF3, till honfu jumped in and told terry to go after the jins. Jins were schooling him too. Kim gave terry a good fight in FF2. Ryo was schooling him the opening of MI2. compare that to how:
-Ryu goes and defeats the new SF champ (alex) PERFECT.
-Ken schools Sean in the qaulifying rounds

to me that is robbing the new generation. Terry didn't rob Rock in FFMOTW now did he? now whose trying to make who look too damn good. get real.Sean & Alex are noobish compared to Ryu & Ken. Sean and been w/Ken that long yet. Rock's a natural(it's in his blood mane) AND he's been training w/Terry since he was a lil' brat eating chilidogs. I'm waiting for the next game to come out to see if Terry robbed Rock or not. If Terry didn't lose, Rock was robbed. I'm beyond tired of this stalemate s**t mane!!!!! Kim was bi*ched along w/the rest against 'Zaki. Ryo doing well in an intro is a step up for him. Bet he still lost the fight though. If you are not Iori or Kyo SNK will always have Terry whoop on you it seems. Kim & Andy deserve better. 'Specially Kim. FF cast - Zaki = talented people jobbed to the point of obscurity so Terry ALWAYS looks SuperiorOriginally posted by Sado22
he does. but you aren't seeing the guy's point. terry didn't beat geese cuz it was crap like destiny or "special ki". terry's moves weren't designed to take on geese's. kyo and iori's flames were destined to defeat Orochi and were the perfect weapon agasint it. kyo and iori beat Orochi cuz it was their destiny. that's bull and you know it.Can somebody point to me using them beating Orochi as evidence against Terry? I've said before, focus on thier normal fights, not silly SNK boss battles. I don't care about SNK boss battles since they almost always involve big time jobbing or PDs.
Originally posted by Sado22
ahem....no, brain, you're wrong. the flames are "sacred" cuz they are designed against Orochi. that is why though terry and the others were there with Kyo and Iori, they weren't able to seal Orochi.
Iori flames= freeze Orochi power (8 cups of wine)
Kyo flames= defeat it (orochinagi)
yatta = seals it away (whatever the **** she does)
still need a dictionary? What part of what I said was wrong? Maybe you misread me. Read it again please. Read what I was responding too also.

LAter brain.
~Sado
P.S. you love terry bogard. you know it. don't deny it. I'm sure iori will understandI've got nothing against him. Just think he gets ways more credit than he deserves just because he trains hard, eats his vitamins & says his prayers. More heart(not really proven since we've never seen any of these guys give up but I have no problem w/it) doesn't = victory. That "he's got heart stuff is generally used for the guy who took a beating. "Good guy wins" syndrome around here man. And Rocky B. was an enjoyable film. They repped the city well.

EA: This training regimen thing is getting stale fast. The passing out thing seems pretty major to me but it's all a matter of opinion. You say you're sure Ryu Terry & other's have done that, but you are not. They really don't seem to go that deep into anybody's regimen. I honestly don't care how man sit ups these guys do. Kyo's a combination of training & natural talent that Terry just can't beat & the same goes for Iori. Terry's not gonna a beat these guys even if he's a good role model In short Kyo & Iori do train and have exp so your "just guys w/flame statement is 100% bull Happy new year folks.

Originally posted by Sado22
Yo brainy!
nice to see. hopefully christmas went good for ya.
i was actually going to PM you since i haven't seen you here for a while (see this is how much Terry fans care for people)

my apologies if you are offended but i was under that impression since you were mentioning that Iori pwns terry all the time in teh comics, despite me telling you countless times that comics aren't canon. then you also mentioned Geese pwning terry in the snkvsCacpcom comics. that is why i felt that you think that comics are canon (and i HAVE told you countless times that comics/anime aint canon). nonetheless sorry briany. It's cool, but you still have it wrong. I couldn't have said "Iori pwns terry all the time in teh comics". I've never seen Iori vs Terry in any books. PG was the one talking about those books explain how overrated Iori is in the books. I wish I could see some of the stuff he's talked about. I'd probably enjoy them 'cause I like sseing fights whether they are canon or not. I've said before that they aren't canon, but I still discuss them 'cause I like them and they get brought up. I've not been posting because I had my laptop over a friend's house so they could download heroes episodes for me. Show's not as bad as I thought it was. Going to sleep. Have a good one. Will respond to the rest later.

Brainy, Ryo in the original timeline as Mr Karate hasent showed up in KOF comics. Canon or not.

Good entrances to the new year, peeps!

You sure? How old should he be? In KOF:MI Maniax #7. Ryo is called Mr. Karate. He has a goatee & his age is even stated.

bull. Geese is terry's bi@tch and its high time you admit it.
Geese in FF1 was beaten fair and square
Geese in FFRB was KILLED fair and square. terry got help early on from andy but EVEN YOU admitted that getting KO'd at the beginning of the fight means shit agaisnt a GODTIER character. yes you did

he was godtier yet terry beat him. he always OUTLASTS his opponents. try to get this in your head.

here is another one of your redundant arguments. so now YOU decide who is godtier and who isn't? jintwins were godtiers and even as godtiers they couldn't put down terry. admit it. accept it. live with it. terry always has shown more balls than ryu and ken put together. but not matter what i say is not going to convince you is it? now i know why P-geyser is always so pissed at you.

kyo didn't beat terry cuz terry is damn good. period.

its gettind ridiculous again.

Iori versus Ken is a joke. ken does not have ONE THING going for him. oh what was that? speed? no. oh are you mumbling power? no not that either. oh oh what was that you just whispered to yourself? what? he beat ryu? well Iori will murder ryu and wash his own @$$ with ryu's karate gi for the rest of his life.

terry was getting beaten up cuz he couldnt focus as he was in a hurry to stop the jin twins. which part of that don't you understand?

huh? are you confusing me with P=Geyser now cuz i never said he'd beat O.Iori.

ken doesn't need all that cuz he's too busy fighting for his life against little girls.

brainy, with all due respect, but its getting pretty redundant arguing with you. if i tell you terry's tough cuz he beat geese, oh wait, geese was jobbed. if i tell you he beat krauser, oh wait your highness doesn't think too highly of krauser. if i tell you he wasn't being KO'd by jin twins who are godtier, your grace doesn't consider jins godtiers now that your opinion is to be taken more seriously than the canon info. if i tell you he had a stalemate with kyo, oh wait, terry was saved by the bell. against iori, again saved by the bell.
so basically no matter what terry does its either jobbing or SNK not getting off his nutsack. FACTS ARE FACTS. admit it and live with it. Kazuya lost to Jin.........you see me having a problem with it? no.
somehow someway you will always deny the facts that are infront of you. i mean come on, dude, apparently no answer is good enough and all that do prove a point, your quick to retort with crap like "jobbed" and what not. you're like this friend of mine who is a huge Ken fan and keeps arguing with me that ken's better though he has yet to come up with a proper answer to all the things i've told you. get real.
terry has guts and always outlasts his opponents. THAT is what terry's all about. since the time SNK made terry he's someone who isn't the fastest or the strongest but is all about heart. think Rocky Balboa.

that said, happy new year! and hopefully I can send you a 12f00t poster of Terry.

~The Invincible Sado-sama

Originally posted by Sado22
bull. Geese is terry's bi@tch and its high time you admit it.
Geese in FF1 was beaten fair and square
Geese in FFRB was KILLED fair and square.


I have been saying this for the longest as well. People seem to forget Kyo usually has the help for the most part in getting where he is. Terry beat Geese on his own and now it's jobbing

Originally posted by Sado22
but not matter what i say is not going to convince you is it? now i know why P-geyser is always so pissed at you.


Yep.

Originally posted by Sado22
its gettind ridiculous again.


Should you really be suprised Sado.


Originally posted by Sado22
huh? are you confusing me with P=Geyser now cuz i never said he'd beat O.Iori.


Actually I did not say outright that Terry beats O.Iori that some people state that I do. I said I think it would be stalemate...people really overrate Iori.


Whats funny is that even Emperor is starting to understand when it comes to Iori and I quote.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
I'm starting to see your problem with Iori fans.

Originally posted by Sado22
bull. Geese is terry's bi@tch and its high time you admit it.
Geese in FF1 was beaten fair and square
Geese in FFRB was KILLED fair and square. terry got help early on from andy but EVEN YOU admitted that getting KO'd at the beginning of the fight means shit agaisnt a GODTIER character. yes you did Help is help. I've said before the energy he wasted KOing Andy could have been spent killing Terry. I love Geese, but I really don't think he's Godtier. You think he could have ever beaten Akuma? Geese still jobbed though. He lost because he underestimated Terry. What kind of B.S. is that? More "hero always wins no matter how stupid it is" bulls**t IMO. Geese is my favorite boss and he doesn't get the props he deserves because SNK pushed Terry @his expense. I've been saying Geese should have won since b4 you got here.

Originally posted by Sado22
he was godtier yet terry beat him. he always OUTLASTS his opponents. try to get this in your head.

here is another one of your redundant arguments. so now YOU decide who is godtier and who isn't? jintwins were godtiers and even as godtiers they couldn't put down terry. admit it. accept it. live with it. terry always has shown more balls than ryu and ken put together. but not matter what i say is not going to convince you is it? now i know why P-geyser is always so pissed at you.Me & him are cool now. Why get pissed about fictional characters? I was reading you talking about Ryu not outlasting any godtiers or something like that. I really don't think Terry has either. The Jins would have killed him if not for Geese don't you think? You know what it's called when a character that's Godtier loses to a character that's not? Here's a hint. It starts w/a "j"

Originally posted by Sado22
kyo didn't beat terry cuz terry is damn good. period.

its gettind ridiculous again.

Iori versus Ken is a joke. ken does not have ONE THING going for him. oh what was that? speed? no. oh are you mumbling power? no not that either. oh oh what was that you just whispered to yourself? what? he beat ryu? well Iori will murder ryu and wash his own @$$ with ryu's karate gi for the rest of his life.

terry was getting beaten up cuz he couldnt focus as he was in a hurry to stop the jin twins. which part of that don't you understand?

huh? are you confusing me with P=Geyser now cuz i never said he'd beat O.Iori. But shouldn't he? I mean he's so Superman like that he can outlast "godtiers" right? Surely he can beat lil' O.Iori. I mean come on, Terry's got heart Seriously dude, you make it seem like this crap makes perfect sense. Terry fans never to amaze me. If this mofo started flying & took bullets to the chest you'd be like "See?! Terry's heart makes anything possible!!!!! Terry RUUUUUUUUUULZ!!!!! Terry soljaz fo' life son!!!" Where does this distraction w/the jins come from though? link?

Originally posted by Sado22
ken doesn't need all that cuz he's too busy fighting for his life against little girls.

brainy, with all due respect, but its getting pretty redundant arguing with you. if i tell you terry's tough cuz he beat geese, oh wait, geese was jobbed. if i tell you he beat krauser, oh wait your highness doesn't think too highly of krauser. if i tell you he wasn't being KO'd by jin twins who are godtier, your grace doesn't consider jins godtiers now that your opinion is to be taken more seriously than the canon info. if i tell you he had a stalemate with kyo, oh wait, terry was saved by the bell. against iori, again saved by the bell.
so basically no matter what terry does its either jobbing or SNK not getting off his nutsack. FACTS ARE FACTS. admit it and live with it. Kazuya lost to Jin.........you see me having a problem with it? no.
somehow someway you will always deny the facts that are infront of you. i mean come on, dude, apparently no answer is good enough and all that do prove a point, your quick to retort with crap like "jobbed" and what not. you're like this friend of mine who is a huge Ken fan and keeps arguing with me that ken's better though he has yet to come up with a proper answer to all the things i've told you. get real.
terry has guts and always outlasts his opponents. THAT is what terry's all about. since the time SNK made terry he's someone who isn't the fastest or the strongest but is all about heart. think Rocky Balboa.

that said, happy new year! and hopefully I can send you a 12f00t poster of Terry. I'll just sell it on eBay. W/all the Terry fans out there I should make a killing. Rocky doesn't make others look like chumps so he can look awesome. Think Andy, Kim and the rest of those who got whooped on by Zaki. I can't help it if you don't recognize bad writing & nutswinging mane, but that's what it is. You're not going to overcome or even compete w/Capcom w/bad story telling. SNK should do the right thing and have him lose by getting laid the f**k out like they've done w/Kyo & other heroes. Tell them to stop di*keatin'. Until then they ARE on his nutsack. Big time my main mane! You have any idea when this MOTW sequel is supposed to come out?

Originally posted by P-Geyser
Actually I did not say outright that Terry beats O.Iori that some people state that I do. I said I think it would be stalemate...people really overrate Iori.You said that it would be a stalemate after a lot of pestering on my part. You originally said you think Terry would take him out. I'm not sure what led you to say that in the 1st place, but I digress. Remember when I quoted you? Want me to find it again my friend? Still doesn't make sense if he needed help to subdue him. Waitaminute. What the hell am I saying? This is Terry B. He'll suddenly have what it takes by himself because he has heart. I can't help myself. Happy New Year PG.

Originally posted by brainchild81
You said that it would be a stalemate after a lot of pestering on my part. You originally said you think Terry would take him out. I'm not sure what led you to say that in the 1st place, but I digress. Remember when I quoted you? Want me to find it again my friend?


I am going to recheck that Terry vs Iori thread because you were having a bit of trouble when I was saying "take him" or "take him on"

Originally posted by brainchild81
This is Terry B. He'll suddenly have what it takes by himself because he has heart.


Yep you are getting it Terry is that damn good. Anyways Happy new year Brain.

Originally posted by P-Geyser
I am going to recheck that Terry vs Iori thread because you were having a bit of trouble when I was saying "take him" or "take him on"



Yep you are getting it Terry is that damn good. Anyways Happy new year Brain. Same to you mane. I found it for you. This was in the Ken/Ryu vs. Iori/Kyo. You didn't say "take him" or "take him on". You said Originally posted by P-Geyser
Second thing is Terry WOULD NOT wind up as one of Iori's dead team mates...you really underestamate The Lone Wolf... seriously. Yes I believe Terry can take out Orochi Iori.

Originally posted by Superboy Prime
Actually I didn't lose my cool. WTF hardly classifies as losing control. Now if I started typing in CAPS and calling you names while making fun of your mama I'd say I lost control, but that is not the case, don't you agree?

I was joking when said that, why won't people let that go?

Why are people calling ken a slacker, he just doesn't train as hard as ryu, that's all.

Originally posted by Sado22

-i don't see ryu surving the honmaru blast
-i don't see ryu surving falling off a cliff at the age of 8
-i don't see him breaking 7foot bulletproof armored robots in half with one body blow
-i don't see him picking up one 7foot bulletproof armored robot, ramming it into 5 others, shattering them and then flinging the robot 20-30 feet away into a giant buddha statue and shattering both statue ANd robot.
-i don't see ryu having hope against people who beat firebreathing/laser shooting demon, dragons and Ogre with their BAREHANDS.
-i don't see him beating people who can take on demons that can turn a whole lush green forest into a barren wasteland with their barehands (DJ in T5Jin profile wrecked the whole forest up yet he is only a fraction of Devil and not the full thing) so imagine what devil can do at full power.
-i dont see ryu having hope against a cast where cyborgs who can tear the top of a tank clean off and throw it 50 feet away into soldiers.
-i don't see him having hope against a cast where little school girls can punch peopple 40 feet away into bolders and shattering the bolder to little peices Asuka T5 ending)
-i don't see him having hope against a cast where people who can shatter a whole mountain with a palm strike are midtiers
-i don't see him having hope agianst a cast where people who can KO bears with one punch, break walls for daily warmup, and break human sized boulders to little pieces are high/mddle tiers.


Because he isn't written that way, what sense would it make for ryu to do all those things listed above and still be in the same power position he is in now?

I'm tired of fighting games making there main characters so godly, and for some reason they aren't in the god class?! And, whenever they want to make a new character, they just write an outragous feats or they resort to jobbing. KOF, tekken, and more are guilty of that and as a result I take there feats with a grain of sand. Bottomline is consistency and well defined feats>Skecthy and inconsistent feats.

Originally posted by brainchild81
Same to you mane. I found it for you. This was in the Ken/Ryu vs. Iori/Kyo. You didn't say "take him" or "take him on". You said

Just checked that thread to make sure. Now that I think about it, I will stick by what I stated though with a twist. I dont see Terry going down hard at the hands of O Iori. Sado pointed out that most of Terry's opponents have been stronger and high teir, and yet he prevailed. Though I think it would be a stalemate.

Originally posted by P-Geyser
Just checked that thread to make sure. Now that I think about it, I will stick by what I stated though with a twist. I dont see Terry going down hard at the hands of O Iori. Sado pointed out that most of Terry's opponents have been stronger and high teir, and yet he prevailed. Though I think it would be a stalemate.

Are you serious, I guess his heart will prevail right?

Originally posted by P-Geyser
Just checked that thread to make sure. Now that I think about it, I will stick by what I stated though with a twist. I dont see Terry going down hard at the hands of O Iori. Sado pointed out that most of Terry's opponents have been stronger and high teir, and yet he prevailed. Though I think it would be a stalemate. Still doesn't make any sense. Terry had to team w/a group of other fighters to subdue him. All of the sudden they're equals? O.Iori's too insane to underestimate Terry like others have. Terry doing anything other than getting his @ss whooped by O.Iori would be a very good example of very bad writing.


Anybody know when the MOTW sequel will be released?

Originally posted by brainchild81
Still doesn't make any sense. Terry had to team w/a group of other fighters to subdue him. All of the sudden they're equals? O.Iori's too insane to underestimate Terry like others have. Terry doing anything other than getting his @ss whooped by O.Iori would be a very good example of very bad writing.
Bad wrtitng is Kof's forte.

SNK's forte

I hope terry fans don't think he can beat a serious Yamazaki or the jin twins on his own?

You obviously don't know how much heart/balls the man has. You like 'Zaki?

Originally posted by brainchild81
You obviously don't know how much heart/balls the man has. You like 'Zaki?

Zaki is a beast, he should have ass raped terry. Why does snk nutride there heroes so much?

Can you imagine if snk bought street fighter?
-Ryu, would trounce everyone
-Alex would be a flame user
-Remy would top tier plot wise
-Bison would be a bishonen

etc. . .

I can imagine it now. Alex is the chosen one because of the flames. Ryu beats Orochi by himself and any losses he's ever had are retconned. Surprised you like Zaki though. I've heard nothing of his training regimen

Originally posted by brainchild81
I can imagine it now. Alex is the chosen one because of the flames. Ryu beats Orochi by himself and any losses he's ever had are retconned. Surprised you like Zaki though. I've heard nothing of his training regimen

Zaki grew up in the streets and has orochi blood. So, he's pretty experienced, unlike Iori who's a fighting rockstar,lol!

Makes perfect sense. Tommy Lee does the same thing. I do wonder why they made him a Rockstar myself. Iori spent some time on the streets killin' folks though.

Sometime in the streets doesn't equate to living in the streets, fighting gangs, training hard, etc.

this is a hellova new year

ROFL. good one emp.
you forgot how, SF2 and SF3 would be serperate timelines since they were too lazy to change Ryu's sprite

however imagine if Capcom bought over KoF:
-terry would still be a virgin at 35
-Kyo would lose to anyone who is tough
-Terry will need to do the power stream against Tizoc and still fail to KO him
-terry will defeat rock perfect
-Kyo would defeat K' perfect and later on K' would defeat Ash perfect
-Iori would not train HALF as much as Kyo but would still beat him
-Iori will only fight two tough opponents and the rest of the time he'd fight little school girls and his own student
-we wouldn't know who won any of the KoF tournaments
-they'd make crummy 3D versions of it
-Orochi will let Kyo and Iori win
-Iori's son will keep on punching him in the nuts.
-Rugal would destroy islands and mountains with his fists
-Ignitz would let kyo, k' and iori win
-terry would beat Geese by a cheap shot
-all the specials would be beefed up moves
-terry will have inner conflicts
-they'd make a third rate movie out of it with STeven Segal as Terry Bogard.
-krauser will let terry win
-the hottest KoF chick will actually be a man
-terry will always pace himself so he can always be seen walking into a sunset after a good fight.
-Geonitz will lose to Kyo and Iori (actually let them win) and then Rugal will come and kill him
-the winner of any of the Kof tournaments will not come to pick up the torphy
-kyo will give his pictures to shingo
-the last we'd see of terry, he was living with an old retard who thinks teenage girls dig him
-Chin gentsai would be one of the godtiers
-every time terry farts, they'd bring in someone to point out how only a true warrior can do that
-the KoF story will stop making sense
-choi bounge will be a heart throb.
-Tizoc will be gay
-Rugal would be too powerful but in order to "balance it out" one hit would give him up to 30 percent damage
-they'd be two companies making the same game and all the names and info will be constantly mixed up so that the fans of the series can remain confused with conflicting ideas till the end of days.
-Kim Jaehoon and Kim Donghwan will be retconned as NOT sons of Kim Kaphwan but as his grandsons and that would be retconned too
-MAi would be the strongest woman in the world
-Kyo-1 and Kyo-2 would be retconned as real characters who were basically Kyo's long lost brothers.
-Vanessa would have her name changed to "Lyla Alee" instead of "Liala Ali"
-there will be at least 5-6 guys doing the same moves as Kyo
-if the team making this KoF leaves and rehashes their own idea to make another game they'd be sued.
-the story will be retconned every month.
-new characters will be added to the series on the basis of a april fool joke
-we'll continuously be having games like Super KoF, Super KoF turbo, KoF plus, Super KoF plus, Hyper KoF, KoF special edition............all of which are the same damn thing

etc etc.

***
anyway, so what you guys do on new years?
~The Invincible Sado-sama

Originally posted by Sado22

ROFL. good one emp.
you forgot how, SF2 and SF3 would be serperate timelines since they were too lazy to change Ryu's sprite

And whens the last time KOF upgraded their sprites???

Originally posted by Sado22

however imagine if Capcom bought over KoF:
-terry would still be a virgin at 35
-Kyo would lose to anyone who is tough
-Terry will need to do the power stream against Tizoc and still fail to KO him
-terry will defeat rock perfect

I don't see anything wrong with any of those, and you act like terry gets laid?


Originally posted by Sado22

-Kyo would defeat K' perfect and later on K' would defeat Ash perfect
-Iori would not train HALF as much as Kyo but would still beat him
-Iori will only fight two tough opponents and the rest of the time he'd fight little school girls and his own student

Kyo should be able to defeat K, Iori doesn't even train at all, and who fights little school girls in capcom???

Originally posted by Sado22

-we wouldn't know who won any of the KoF tournaments
-they'd make crummy 3D versions of it
-Orochi will let Kyo and Iori win
-Iori's son will keep on punching him in the nuts.
-Rugal would destroy islands and mountains with his fists
-Ignitz would let kyo, k' and iori win

Irony anyone, so, your telling me maximum impact is a good 3d game?

We don't know who most of the KOF, infact kof conflicts with the general timeline. In motw, terry is mentioned winning the first kof, yet, Ryo won it. and I don't even want to mention the timeline problems with kof. A young ryo fighting terry, and motw characters?

Igniz needs an explanation...


Originally posted by Sado22

-terry would beat Geese by a cheap shot
-all the specials would be beefed up moves

Wow sado, your telling me kof doesn't give beefed up specials?
Terry needs to lose

Originally posted by Sado22



-the hottest KoF chick will actually be a man

The hottest kof chick is a man.



Originally posted by Sado22




-the last we'd see of terry, he was living with an old retard who thinks teenage girls dig him
Oro is a funny old man, and what does terry do now a days anyway?




Originally posted by Sado22

-the KoF story will stop making sense

It never made sense


Originally posted by Sado22

-choi bounge will be a heart throb.
-Tizoc will be gay
And?


Originally posted by Sado22

-Rugal would be too powerful but in order to "balance it out" one hit would give him up to 30 percent damage

What's snk boss syndrome?


Originally posted by Sado22

-if the team making this KoF leaves and rehashes their own idea to make another game they'd be sued.
-the story will be retconned every month.


Versus a story that can't get timelines right, and why would any company let them rehash an idea from a rival company???


Originally posted by Sado22

-we'll continuously be having games like Super KoF, Super KoF turbo, KoF plus, Super KoF plus, Hyper KoF, KoF special edition............all of which are the same damn thing

What are kof rebouts?

Happy New Year, man.

I just wish snk would go back to Fatal Fury, Samurai Showdown, etc and let kof die.

I thought MOTW 2 WIll Come OUT this Year?

no no i actually wanted to type Ryo but winded up typing ryu (oh great). you know that right: the changed the timelines of Kof only so that they wounldn't have to change the sprites for Ryo and Aof gang?


its kinda given. terry and mary were in a steady relationship since FF3 onwards so...

you think Kyo would beat K' perfect like how alex lost to ryu perfect.
as for the school girls the only fights we know ken to have taken place in are against Ryu in SFA2, against Bison with sakura in SFA3, against Ryu in SF2, against Sean in SF3, against Sakura in SFA3 and Karin in SFA3. that's kinda sad actually since half of his fights are against some third rate competition.

at least they redeemed themselves in KOFMI2. SFEX2 sucked worse than the first one. SFEX3 was even worse. so no irony.


emperor, allow me to clear out the confusion and it took me sometime to figure it out aswell.
-Fatal Fury and KoF have the same timeline in terms of the king of fighters tournament. Terry fought in the 1992 and 1993 KoF tournaments which were one on one. Basically KoF time line begins with FF....and hence Terry is the first winner of KoF in the KOF timeline.
however, realistically it is RYo who is the winner since the first KoF took place when Geese was 26. understood?
and i don't understand your first line.


i mean in the sense that at the very least, haoshikoken is not 3hadoukens stacked together now is it? powergeyser isn't 6 power waves in one either. mu-shiki isn't a triple serpeant waves in one either.
Terry has lost by TO.

i thought you said king was ugly as hell. and you also didn't agree with me when i insisted that she's pretty hot. the hottest KoF chick is probably Mai in the eyes of the general fans and she's as womanly as they come....a bit more busty but pretty hot.

eh? your point?
and terry is street fighting as he has always been.

the Orochi saga was great
Nests saga sucked but at least was more interesting than anyof the SF stories.
Ash saga is also very interesting. in fact you were insisting long time back that Ash Saga has really picked up the KoF storyline. either you or brain....i think it was you.

when the boss is pretty challenging and is overpowered as hell. it's fun when you're as good as me cuz you get to beat Ignitz perfect everytime....even with Bao.
also this has nothing to do with what i said about akuma being weak as hell.

what i said to you above. also i was making fun of the timelines myself when i first replied (when i got the spellings wrong).
also one is free to do whatever he or she wants with his or her own idea. be it another company or not.

correction: Kof94 REBOUT. ONE GAME. Two if you count MI Maniax. against how many SF's again?


BLASPHEMY! castrate him!


youtalking to me? either way, thanks and nice of you to reply to my PM. so how was new year?

Later dude.
~The Invincible Sado-sama

ROFL@bishounen Bison

Edge will appear & take on the entire non boss SF cast by himself. Ken, Guile and the rest will all be KOed with ease. & then Ryu will take him on by himself, proving that not only is Ryu tougher than the other SF. He's tougher than all of them put together!! Ryu will beat Akuma because Akuma will underestimate him and Ryu has heart. Pyron will appear and lose to Ryu for the same reason. Later, Shina Akuma, God Rugal, Goku, Pyron, Orochi, & Apocalypse will team up to fight Ryu. Their combined efforts will not be enough to put Ryu down because he has heart. He will outlast them all. Ken will become less important to the plot than Eliza and she will be in all the games while he is left out. Ryu will get a girlfriend and stay with her for many years w/out ever having kids and nobody will start to wonder why. Ryu will then adopt Bison's son.

Which son is this?

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
I just wish snk would go back to Fatal Fury, Samurai Showdown, etc and let kof die.

AMEN AMEN AMEN

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
I hope terry fans don't think he can beat a serious Yamazaki or the jin twins on his own?

I dont agree with that statement...Zaki will and has given Terry one hell of a fight but he wont "ass rape him" Though many folks think Iori and Kyo can beat most(and no I am not talking about this forum)so I am sure in the eyes of many Iori owns all.

Originally posted by Sado22
this is a hellova new year

ROFL. good one emp.
you forgot how, SF2 and SF3 would be serperate timelines since they were too lazy to change Ryu's sprite

however imagine if Capcom bought over KoF:
-terry would still be a virgin at 35
-Kyo would lose to anyone who is tough
-Terry will need to do the power stream against Tizoc and still fail to KO him
-terry will defeat rock perfect
-Kyo would defeat K' perfect and later on K' would defeat Ash perfect
-Iori would not train HALF as much as Kyo but would still beat him
-Iori will only fight two tough opponents and the rest of the time he'd fight little school girls and his own student
-we wouldn't know who won any of the KoF tournaments
-they'd make crummy 3D versions of it
-Orochi will let Kyo and Iori win
-Iori's son will keep on punching him in the nuts.
-Rugal would destroy islands and mountains with his fists
-Ignitz would let kyo, k' and iori win
-terry would beat Geese by a cheap shot
-all the specials would be beefed up moves
-terry will have inner conflicts
-they'd make a third rate movie out of it with STeven Segal as Terry Bogard.
-krauser will let terry win
-the hottest KoF chick will actually be a man
-terry will always pace himself so he can always be seen walking into a sunset after a good fight.
-Geonitz will lose to Kyo and Iori (actually let them win) and then Rugal will come and kill him
-the winner of any of the Kof tournaments will not come to pick up the torphy
-kyo will give his pictures to shingo
-the last we'd see of terry, he was living with an old retard who thinks teenage girls dig him
-Chin gentsai would be one of the godtiers
-every time terry farts, they'd bring in someone to point out how only a true warrior can do that
-the KoF story will stop making sense
-choi bounge will be a heart throb.
-Tizoc will be gay
-Rugal would be too powerful but in order to "balance it out" one hit would give him up to 30 percent damage
-they'd be two companies making the same game and all the names and info will be constantly mixed up so that the fans of the series can remain confused with conflicting ideas till the end of days.
-Kim Jaehoon and Kim Donghwan will be retconned as NOT sons of Kim Kaphwan but as his grandsons and that would be retconned too
-MAi would be the strongest woman in the world
-Kyo-1 and Kyo-2 would be retconned as real characters who were basically Kyo's long lost brothers.
-Vanessa would have her name changed to "Lyla Alee" instead of "Liala Ali"
-there will be at least 5-6 guys doing the same moves as Kyo
-if the team making this KoF leaves and rehashes their own idea to make another game they'd be sued.
-the story will be retconned every month.
-new characters will be added to the series on the basis of a april fool joke
-we'll continuously be having games like Super KoF, Super KoF turbo, KoF plus, Super KoF plus, Hyper KoF, KoF special edition............all of which are the same damn thing

etc etc.

***
anyway, so what you guys do on new years?
~The Invincible Sado-sama

Dayum that is one hell of an analysis!

Here is one I like. Ryu comes from an ancestrial clan that has the ablility to weild..I mean execute Hadouken's...by this he is a "natural talent"... Ryu is arrogent and a slacker. He has a student by the name of Sakura(I hope I am right)that looks up to him.

Ryu treats Sakura like total sh!t...because he finds her to be really annoying and usually orders Sakura to get him sandwhiches while he is gazing on the the school, I mean Dojo rooftop in Japan. Ryu enters the SF tournament and wins against Sagat, because of the time running out.

Ryu, Ken, Dan can only defeat Gill, because Gill is weak against Hadoukens. Even though it's a team effort, Ryu somehow gets to be called the SF champion and get the glory while his teammates are left in the back burner


Ken also comes from an ancestrial clan that is able to execute Hadoukens like Ryu. A long time ago, Ryu's family and Ken' family were ONE. The Master's clan was tired of living under the shadow of The Hoshi clan, so that family made a pact with Gill. The masters family broke off from the Hoshi family and thus became their own family.

Zip to present...Ken is mentioned as the most feared man in the SF tournament....He can rip through people's skin like butter and when he gets really MAD watch OUT!!!...he turns into Violent Ken and by this it seems that every Street Fighter is unable to stop him..."It seems"

Though Ken has this unhealthy obession with Ryu. This obession has made him also quite the stalker. Ken goes around screaming KILL RYU! KILL RYU!... as well after all of these years Ken has never seemed to change his costume

Ken is suppose to be better stronger than Ryu since the hatred goes back 1800 years ago but he has still not killed him Though now it seems Ken joins Ryu and in taking on the biggest threats such as Gill, Bison and maybe Oro? though even through all of this, he still wants to KILL Ryu.


this was fun.

" The hottest KOF chick is a man ".

Emp, you rascal. I knew you had the hots for chicks in bussines suits.
Originally posted by brainchild81
You sure? How old should he be? In KOF:MI Maniax #7. Ryo is called Mr. Karate. He has a goatee & his age is even stated.
So far from what ive been told, both Terry and Ryo are the regular ones. How you think the comic is going?

ROFL!
so i started a trend now. *copyrights all his posts and sues P-Geyser and BC for infridgement*
BC Geese DID NOT underestimate Terry....just to clear it out for you for the umpteenth time. thick headed b@st@rd!
other than that, ROFL and oh you're @$$ is sued.

P-Geyser: ROFL
oh and you're kinda kicking your own ass by the following comment:
"as well after all of these years Ken has never seemed to change his costume"
when its all said and done NO ONE from SF has had a wardrobe change!other than that ROFL.
massage your @$$ too cuz you're sued too

~The Invincible Sado-sama

Originally posted by Sado22
ROFL!
so i started a trend now. *copyrights all his posts and sues P-Geyser and BC for infridgement*
BC Geese DID NOT underestimate Terry....just to clear it out for you for the umpteenth time. thick headed b@st@rd!
other than that, ROFL and oh you're @$$ is sued.

P-Geyser: ROFL
oh and you're kinda kicking your own ass by the following comment:
"as well after all of these years Ken has never seemed to change his costume"
when its all said and done NO ONE from SF has had a wardrobe change!other than that ROFL.
massage your @$$ too cuz you're sued too

~The Invincible Sado-sama

.....though doesn't Ken change his clothes once in awhile?

Originally posted by brainchild81
Edge will appear & take on the entire non boss SF cast by himself. Ken, Guile and the rest will all be KOed with ease. & then Ryu will take him on by himself, proving that not only is Ryu tougher than the other SF. He's tougher than all of them put together!! Ryu will beat Akuma because Akuma will underestimate him and Ryu has heart. Pyron will appear and lose to Ryu for the same reason. Later, Shina Akuma, God Rugal, Goku, Pyron, Orochi, & Apocalypse will team up to fight Ryu. Their combined efforts will not be enough to put Ryu down because he has heart. He will outlast them all. Ken will become less important to the plot than Eliza and she will be in all the games while he is left out. Ryu will get a girlfriend and stay with her for many years w/out ever having kids and nobody will start to wonder why. Ryu will then adopt Bison's son. HILLARIOUS !!!

Thanx. I'll be here all week.Originally posted by Sado22
ROFL!
so i started a trend now. *copyrights all his posts and sues P-Geyser and BC for infridgement*
BC Geese DID NOT underestimate Terry....just to clear it out for you for the umpteenth time. I must have not been paying attention. Where does this info come from? & I thought Ashtar started this trendOriginally posted by Tha C-Master
Which son is this?

Originally posted by P-Geyser
I dont agree with that statement...Zaki will and has given Terry one hell of a fight but he wont "ass rape him" Though many folks think Iori and Kyo can beat most(and no I am not talking about this forum)so I am sure in the eyes of many Iori owns all. Who was talking about Kyo & Iori?

Originally posted by brainchild81
Who was talking about Kyo & Iori?

Most of the people that I run into at the arcade....plus alot of the folks at Orochinagi when I use to visit there.

Kyo and Iori are MASTERFUL but not unbeatble.

Good postOriginally posted by olympian
So far from what ive been told, both Terry and Ryo are the regular ones. How you think the comic is going? You're thinking about the SVC books. They use the regular costumes there. In the KOF:MI Maniax books, Terry wears his MOTW stuff & Ryo's aged w/white hair & a beard & a short sleeved gi & no black T-shirt. & they call him Mr. Karate in issue 7. They say he's more powerful than Takuma ever was. Terry is shown to be quite tough. He and Alba team up to save Soiree & Rock from Duke. Ryo fights his hardest & receives a very one sided beatdown from a playful Mignon Bert. PG & I both have every issue but part 8(last issue). I think the SVC series is readable and has a bunch of cool quotes. Mostly from Geese & Ken. Some of the fight outcomes are very unlikely though, but still a good read so far. Waiting for issue 6

The SVC series, lose a bit in the translation, tho. The art however makes it more than enough for it. Its awesome.

How you get the MI Maniax books? Already for sale in the shops? Or online, and if so where do i get them?

You'd probably have to find them in the back issue bins. I agree about SVC. Awesome art, especially the painted parts.

Thanks, ill try to track those down. Is the art or plot any good?

It's OK. I'm not a big fan of Alba & he's the hero along w/Terry. You wanna see Terry look tough? Get it. You won't see Ryo look tough though. Lien does totally expose Mai though. Get your mind out of the gutter people. Can you track down anymore SVC fights online?Originally posted by P-Geyser
Most of the people that I run into at the arcade....plus alot of the folks at Orochinagi when I use to visit there. Well the guy is pretty damn tough. Try to focus on what happens here though.

Just stating how people think too highly of Iori that's all.

That can be said for many characters. It's all just opinions though. There's this guy w/a baseball cap & people think he can beat Bison.....HERE

i wonder who that is?
there is a guy who has problem digesting that "the plural of goose" got
bitched badly.............TWICE.

but anyhow lets cut this out already brainy. i'm beginning to detect some resentment in your lines. i already apologized for pissing you off with the "jab" and i even explained why i thought so. but forwhatever it is that you're pissed with me....sorry dude.

also do you know where i can get these comics that everyone's talking about. i wanna read it.

Take care.

~The Invincible Sado-sama

Originally posted by brainchild81
It's OK. I'm not a big fan of Alba & he's the hero along w/Terry. You wanna see Terry look tough? Get it. You won't see Ryo look tough though. Lien does totally expose Mai though. Get your mind out of the gutter people. Can you track down anymore SVC fights online? Well the guy is pretty damn tough. Try to focus on what happens here though.
wait, wait..."expose" how.......? haha.

Originally posted by Sado22
i wonder who that is?
there is a guy who has problem digesting that "the plural of goose" got
bitched badly.............TWICE.

but anyhow lets cut this out already brainy. i'm beginning to detect some resentment in your lines. i already apologized for pissing you off with the "jab" and i even explained why i thought so. but forwhatever it is that you're pissed with me....sorry dude.

also do you know where i can get these comics that everyone's talking about. i wanna read it.

Take care.

~The Invincible Sado-sama

...yeah. There is this guy with red hair and people think he can beat the entire Kof roster that are not bossess and he can rip people like butter...HERE

Makes sense unless you're talking about all of them @ the same time. Read up on the guy. Terry beating Bison? Now that's a streeeeeeeeeeetch IMOOriginally posted by Sado22
i wonder who that is?
there is a guy who has problem digesting that "the plural of goose" got
bitched badly.............TWICE. but anyhow lets cut this out already brainy. i'm beginning to detect some resentment in your lines.This is where the German guy from the Ikea commercial would say "That is because you're crazy." I wasn't even talking about Geese or you. I'm talking about Bison. I don't remember you being the only person who had Terry beating him. As for Geese, you say "bitched", I still see "jobbed" until proven otherwise. We'll just have to agree to disagree(&that you're wrong )Originally posted by Sado22
i already apologized for pissing you off with the "jab" and i even explained why i thought so. but forwhatever it is that you're pissed with me....sorry dude. Don't be. Nobody's pissed. You loco mane?Originally posted by Sado22
also do you know where i can get these comics that everyone's talking about. i wanna read it.

Take care.

~The Invincible Sado-sama Back issue bin @ your local comic stop.Originally posted by olympian
wait, wait..."expose" how.......? haha. She exposes her as one who relies on her "boobs & butt" to get ahead.

well i'm glad there is no beef between you and me. its always been fun arguing with you since i came to this place, lol, so i didn't want to see your sarcasm coming to an end. aside from you and "Sensei" no one here is really that sarcastic so it can get boring when they don't even get the jokes.
as for B!TCh..err...Geese, well i'll tell you two places to try your luck. there is a third but that would be my site .
firstly try wikipedia
then go to gamefaq and look for this kalaui lanits or something's KoFstory guide. . this guy APPARENTLY is writing the canon story of KoF. read all of it and satisfy your self....and figure out that you are wrong. W-R-O-N-G. WROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG.
now THAT is stretching it.


i'm what?


i aint american bub.

~The Invincible Sado-sama

Staying on the topic of Kim vs. Ken. Honestly I can't say who I think would win. I'm a big fan of Ken but playing against Kim on the hardest level reminds me of fighting Ken on the hardest level of Street Fighter II back when I was a child.

I really can't pick a winner here. Its more of a stalemate to me.

To the previous posts that include Terry vs. Ken or Terry vs. Ryu, eh I never found Terry to be much of a challenge. Story line wise I know he's supposed to be the man, but I've never had much of problem beatin' that ass. I'm going simply by game play here so I'd have to pick Ken and Ryu over Terry.

Gouki is also over rated. He's still one of my favorite characters story line wise, but in the games he's not such a big deal when you start lacing into him. There...I said it.

nice post.

~The Invincible Sado-sama

Shinnyshinshinshoryuken

omni-omni-omnislash version 69!

~The Invincible Sado-sama

Originally posted by Sado22
omni-omni-omnislash version 69!

~The Invincible Sado-sama
ROFLMFAO!!!!!1!!!

Going off topic: Ryu defeats Terry but Ken and Terry stalemate.

really going off topic:
Sado kicks the crap out of Remulus to the cheers of the whole KMC!


~The Invincible Sado-sama