Tactile Telekinesis vs Superstrength

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golem370
Which is the better power and which would you rather have?

Tactile Telekinesis- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tactile_telekinesis

vs

Superstrength- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Super_Strength#Superhumanly_strong_characters_in_f
iction

Kutulu
Originally posted by golem370
Which is the better power and which would you rather have?

Tactile Telekinesis- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tactile_telekinesis

vs

Superstrength- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Super_Strength#Superhumanly_strong_characters_in_f
iction

Well all of the truly upper tier superhero's have tactile telekinesis, there is only so far you can go with just superstrength in terms of usefulness (at a certain point things just break around whatever you are trying to lift or move). Tactile telekinesis has no upper level, and for example with enough power you could move a planet, etc., where you could never do something like that with superstrength alone.

lorddreamer
Originally posted by Kutulu
Well all of the truly upper tier superhero's have tactile telekinesis, there is only so far you can go with just superstrength in terms of usefulness (at a certain point things just break around whatever you are trying to lift or move). Tactile telekinesis has no upper level, and for example with enough power you could move a planet, etc., where you could never do something like that with superstrength alone.

What about Superman? He's done that smile

I agree though. SuperStrength also requires you to actually go do something, whereas with tele, you dont really need to move much. Plus! A strong Telekenetic can do what a superstrengther can do, and more. Hulk couldnt make a whirlwind from sand, for instance. Nor could Superman hold Hulk up in the air.
In other words, Tele is simply more diverse.

Kutulu
Originally posted by lorddreamer
What about Superman? He's done that smile

I agree though. SuperStrength also requires you to actually go do something, whereas with tele, you dont really need to move much. Plus! A strong Telekenetic can do what a superstrengther can do, and more. Hulk couldnt make a whirlwind from sand, for instance. Nor could Superman hold Hulk up in the air.
In other words, Tele is simply more diverse.

Superman is considered tactile telekinesis by most. If it was just superstrength, then he would not have been able to move a planet for instance. The article puts Superman as Superstrength but I believe that to be an error. Example of PC Superman moving the planet by pushing on the ocean floor; if it was mere superstrength he would have buried into the planet's magma and still not moved it.

Dinalfos
Again, this totally depends on the kind of universe I'm living in. In our actual reality, I'd prefer to have superstrength. It's just cool to be the strongest and most durable. Telekinesis ain't too bad either, but strength is more popular and thus cooler to brag about.

However, If I were living in a world full of super beings (like the comic world), I'd prefer telekinesis. It's far more useful.

golem370
Gladiator is said to have Tactile Telekinesis because when he lifted the Baxter Building it didn't collapse in on it's on weight.

grey fox
Tactile Tk.

You can fly , imitate super strength and blow stuff apart.

Whats not to like ?

Mindship
Isn't "tactile telekinesis" a contradiction in terms? I mean, "tele-" means across/from a distance (generally understood to mean beyond one's reach), whereas tactile = touching. evil face

"Tactile Psychokinesis" (TPK) woulda been better.

TPK > mere superstrength

Darth Macabre
Can't I have both? no expression


But it depends on the situation...They both have their uses.

wannabe
Tactile Psychokinesis is better by faaar!!! You can do everything a superstrong guy can do and then some.

Entity
Originally posted by wannabe
Tactile Psychokinesis is better by faaar!!! You can do everything a superstrong guy can do and then some.

My thoughts exactly!

DigiMark007
Depends on the levels. If my tactile tk can't do anything but move pencils, then superstrength. But if I can, say, move planets.....then sure.

It really depends on what exact amounts of both there are. Otherwise it seems kinda arbitrary to place one over the other.

Validus
Why would you want to move planets Digi? Interested in killing us all, huh?

DigiMark007
Originally posted by Validus
Why would you want to move planets Digi? Interested in killing us all, huh?

Meh, I'd learn to control it. So that I wouldn't always be using planet-moving force with my tk. But I'd know it's there in case, say, a meteor was going to drash into us.

...of course, I'd probably destroy Earth before I figured it all out, but that's your problem, not mine.

stick out tongue

MightyEInherjar
With tactile TK, could you not punch holes through walls and people, because as you hit them, you'd be surrounding their whole body in TK field and moving them?

If so, I'd want Superstrength...just so I could punch holes through people, babies (which are different than people), buildings, giraffes, windows, etc.

Darth Martin
Originally posted by Validus
Why would you want to move planets Digi? Interested in killing us all, huh? laughing

Entity
Originally posted by DigiMark007
Meh, I'd learn to control it. So that I wouldn't always be using planet-moving force with my tk. But I'd know it's there in case, say, a meteor was going to drash into us.

...of course, I'd probably destroy Earth before I figured it all out, but that's your problem, not mine.

stick out tongue

Unless you can survive in space or get to habitable planet within 3 days it would be yours as well! embarrasment smokin'

DigiMark007
Originally posted by Entity
Unless you can survive in space or get to habitable planet within 3 days it would be yours as well! embarrasment smokin'

Hey, I can move planets. I'd build myself a new one where Earth was.

cool

King Kandy
Originally posted by Mindship
Isn't "tactile telekinesis" a contradiction in terms? I mean, "tele-" means across/from a distance (generally understood to mean beyond one's reach), whereas tactile = touching. evil face

"Tactile Psychokinesis" (TPK) woulda been better.

TPK > mere superstrength
It's tactile Telekinesis because, from a distance, it effects touching, interacting parts.

Martian_mind
Tactile all the way.

Scoobless
Originally posted by grey fox
Tactile Tk.

You can fly , imitate super strength and blow stuff apart.

Whats not to like ?

TTK really shouldn't give you the ability to fly.

TK can as you're just lifting yourself as you would another object.

TTK flight = Super Strength used to lift yourself off the ground = retarded

Grayoins
Tactical TK can't help you with arm wrestling a guy with super strength or help you with punching hard with little effort. Also most people with super strength also get super durability. Also super strength is a better choice if you want to easily break hard to break objects with their bare hands. But then again super strength has its problems like breaking doors when you try to open them, breaking someones hand when you shake it, and break someones spine when you hug them. Super strength is for heavy duty people while Tactical TK is for whimps. I would rather have super strength because it fits the character I want to be, a tall muscular guy that doesn't talk.

"Id"
Tactical TK

riv6672
Originally posted by golem370
Which is the better power and which would you rather have?

Tactile Telekinesis- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tactile_telekinesis

vs

Superstrength- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Super_Strength#Superhumanly_strong_characters_in_f
iction
1. Unless its Hulk madder/stronger, then tactile TK is better than straight super strength IMO, in that it can be used in different ways.

2. I think i'd go for tactile TK, actually.
I usually opt for simpler power sets, as i'm no genius, but, i was a religious Superboy reader, was fascinated by his power, and spent a lotta time thinking on how i'd use it, so yeah, i'd do okay with it i think.

Stoic
I'd personally go with the super strength. You would by proxy increase in durability, and you would also gain super speed as well. Not to mention that if you were able to lift mountains you'd be able to leap to the point of flight. I guess they both have their pros.

riv6672
True.

With tactile TK though, you get pretty much everything you mentioned, plus flight. I'm going by the Superboy (90s era) level of power, no more than that.
He couldnt lift mountains, but he did all right.

Stoic
Originally posted by riv6672
True.

With tactile TK though, you get pretty much everything you mentioned, plus flight. I'm going by the Superboy (90s era) level of power, no more than that.
He couldnt lift mountains, but he did all right.

TTK shouldn't grant super durability, and I'm not sure why it would grant you super speed either. Superrboy was an exception imo.

beatboks
Originally posted by Grayoins
Tactical TK can't help you with arm wrestling a guy with super strength or help you with punching hard with little effort. Also most people with super strength also get super durability. Also super strength is a better choice if you want to easily break hard to break objects with their bare hands. But then again super strength has its problems like breaking doors when you try to open them, breaking someones hand when you shake it, and break someones spine when you hug them. Super strength is for heavy duty people while Tactical TK is for whimps. I would rather have super strength because it fits the character I want to be, a tall muscular guy that doesn't talk.

Superboy has tactile TK instead of superstrength and can do everyrhing you say ttk wont allow you to.

It does help him with arm wresttling, punching hard, its also where he gets his super durability a personal TK field permanantly around hus body. So it gives all the boons with none of the problems you mentuoned.

beatboks
Originally posted by Stoic
TTK shouldn't grant super durability, and I'm not sure why it would grant you super speed either. Superrboy was an exception imo.

Durability is you ability to wirhstand things that strike you (force energy etc). Striking means they touch you and tactile TK means you control how. How would it NOT give you super durability??? Speed hoeever I agree with, i always figured the flight thimg was his ttk controlling the air gis body touched.

Grayoins
I'm gonna clear this up, superboy had TTK and super strength and durability. Saying that TTK can give you super durability is dumb becasue when you get hit you still go down and it still hurts. Superman has super strength and TTK. Super strength can do things that TTK can't because if it were the same, then people would call TTK super strength. TTK does not give you super durability. TTK isn't even a famous power, its just something that some hypocrite came up with to f*ck up with peoples minds. I would rather have super strength and that actually does give you super durability. Everyone always posts dumb sh*t online and saying that a superpower can do much more than it was created to do, ITS ALL A LIE. Everyone should know that TTK is overruled and and that its just a cheap knock off of super strength.

riv6672
Originally posted by Stoic
TTK shouldn't grant super durability, and I'm not sure why it would grant you super speed either. Superrboy was an exception imo.
Not to sound dickish, but its comics. Radiation shouldnt grant superpowers but there you go.
Superboy's the best example of tactile TK i know of, and his is what i'd go for. He really did have that power on lock!

beatboks
Originally posted by Grayoins
I'm gonna clear this up, superboy had TTK and super strength and durability. Saying that TTK can give you super durability is dumb becasue when you get hit you still go down and it still hurts. Superman has super strength and TTK. Super strength can do things that TTK can't because if it were the same, then people would call TTK super strength. TTK does not give you super durability. TTK isn't even a famous power, its just something that some hypocrite came up with to f*ck up with peoples minds. I would rather have super strength and that actually does give you super durability. Everyone always posts dumb sh*t online and saying that a superpower can do much more than it was created to do, ITS ALL A LIE. Everyone should know that TTK is overruled and and that its just a cheap knock off of super strength.

Cant speak for nu52 but Superboy post COIE didnt have strength without TTK. When his TTK failed he was weak as a kitten. He also didnt have durability not provided by his TTK.

Provide any proof of Superman having TTK??? He doesnt, the solar energy that his cells havr absorbed strengthens the bods in his cells nothing anywhere ever shown like TTK.

Bentley
In 2006 Digi was going to bust the planet, but we used Gold Kryptonite to depower him.

riv6672
Originally posted by beatboks
Cant speak for nu52 but Superboy post COIE didnt have strength without TTK. When his TTK failed he was weak as a kitten. He also didnt have durability not provided by his TTK.
You're correct. Superboy's TTK simulated his flight, strength, invulnerbility. It was pretty awesome.

Originally posted by beatboks
Provide any proof of Superman having TTK??? He doesnt, the solar energy that his cells havr absorbed strengthens the bods in his cells nothing anywhere ever shown like TTK.
when John Byrne revamped the character, he posited the idea of Supes using his mind to make himself fly; if he was carrying something, like in the linked pic:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_ndMhsNIci6A/TQADTDrroKI/AAAAAAAAANM/Ndsk_lFHmtM/s1600/2010-12-08.5.jpg

that thing would decrease in weight while he flew.
It went in hand with Supes having a bio electric field around his body which prevented fabric close to his skin from being harmed (But not his cape. Byrne specifically said he made it that way because he liked drawing Supes' cape ripped up.)
https://i.imgflip.com/20nekb.jpg

Those two ideas, taken together, inspired Superboy's TTK, as Cadmus wasnt able to clone a perfect Kryptonian, but their process refined those little talked about abilities into something unique to Superboy himself.

Grayoins
You know, now that I think about it, tactile telekinesis is like a better version of super strength. But couldn't they at least give it a more physical name like Tactile physicinesis or something. I just whant to make sure that people know that telekinesis and tactile telekinesis are 2 completly different super powers.

Grayoins
Okay, so this website won't allow me to reply to peoples comments, but I'm just gonna say this. TTK can give you super strength and super durability beyond anything you have ever seen. I don't actualy know how, but TTK is like a ultimate power package. It like gives you omnipotent strength and durability. The name however doesn't make sense. And just to be clear with everyone, TTK is nothing like telekinesis. Man these comic book creators have such an imagination don't they. From what people are saying, tactile isn't a super power, its like a super power source. Its kinda like how the sun powers superman, or like how anger powers the hulk, or how blood and the night time powers a vampire. Speaking of vampires, it's like they come with TTK, because they have strength and durability beyond anything, except the hulk. But I would like to be as strong and durable as a vampire. So if TTK is what gives vampire their strength and durability then I would have TTK, becasue either way if you choose TTK or just plain strength, you still get physicaly stronger, I think I understand now. Thank you people of the internet.

Stoic
Originally posted by beatboks
Cant speak for nu52 but Superboy post COIE didnt have strength without TTK. When his TTK failed he was weak as a kitten. He also didnt have durability not provided by his TTK.

Provide any proof of Superman having TTK??? He doesnt, the solar energy that his cells havr absorbed strengthens the bods in his cells nothing anywhere ever shown like TTK.

I kind of think that Superman has both. How do you explain the times that he's lifted things that didn't fall apart under their own weight?

Astner
Super strength has a fairly limited application compared to tactile telekinesis. Notwithstanding the additional abilities get with tactile telekinesis such as flight, you can't lift a mountain with super strength.

riv6672
Originally posted by Stoic
I kind of think that Superman has both. How do you explain the times that he's lifted things that didn't fall apart under their own weight?
I explained it. stick out tongue

Grayoins
I think TTK is some sort of power source that gives you an omnipotent or unlimited amount of super strength and what ever else TTK gives you. Its like TTK is a super power package and source.

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