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So, is Thanos considerably above top tier in strength? Or about equal? Pick your poison, and provide examples of either stance.

Oh and nods to nvrbeenwthagirl.

You can't **** with Thanos. Nobody this side of Galactus beats him outright. You can bring up the tyrant fight, but Thanos, with a little help, was holding his own. Against a guy who used to on par with Galactus, and even depowered, whupped Surfer and a large crowd of heroes. Thanos is insanely powerful, maybe stronger than pretty much anyone on earth. Even RK Thor would have some trouble. Though, he might be able to win. I'm not up on RK's feats.

Doomsday can go blow for blow with Thanos and get a majority.
A very angry Hulk Can, Champion, Superboy Prime Outright Kills thanos in hand to hand if he wishes, Despero, Darkseid, Full Confindence Gladiator, Orion with NO Mother Box, infinity Man, Composite Man, all fit the bill of beings who can or do exceed thanos is strength. I can also note that A sun dipped Superman can Hang and thanos would have a hard time hand to hand with General Eiling as well.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Doomsday can go blow for blow with Thanos and get a majority.
A very angry Hulk Can, Champion, Superboy Prime Outright Kills thanos in hand to hand if he wishes, Despero, Darkseid, Full Confindence Gladiator, Orion with NO Mother Box, infinity Man, Composite Man, all fit the bill of beings who can or do exceed thanos is strength. I can also note that A sun dipped Superman can Hang and thanos would have a hard time hand to hand with General Eiling as well.



Disagree on nearly every count. I know of at least 3 on that list Thanos has actually beaten in comics. Darkseid, Hulk (easily), Champion (who was only stronger when he had the Power Gem).

...people forget that half the time when Thanos is punking the sh*t out of heralds and such, he doesn;t use his energy powers at all...it's just the pimp hand and a little elbow grease.

In order to understand Thanos' strength level, let's take a look at his background.

First off: He is an eternal.
http://www.marvel.com/universe/Eternals
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternals_%28comics%29

An average Eternal start off lifting 15 tons. Immune to poison, disease, and aging, almost impossible to kill. Extreme control over their bodies, capable of harnessing cosmic energy and infusing it through their bodies, healing internal wounds, etc..


So even blasting their bodies into vapor, they can return.

All eternals can:

Project damaging blasts and/or blinding flashes of energy from their eyes and hands.
Fly (average top speed 600 mph) and levitate others.
Read minds.
Generate illusions.
Teleport vast distances, though doing so leaves most Eternals momentarily fatigued or dazed.
Transmute objects, altering both their shape and composition. This ability is very taxing to most Eternals.

Now that we know the baseline Eternal (average citizen), let's take a look at how Thanos was, before his first death:
* He is a mutant. Picture how tough Colossus is compared to a regular human, this is how Thanos is to a regular Eternal in terms of strength and durability.
* He took his already incredible strength and durability, and enhanced it even further using technology.

Before he died and was reborn, he easily took out both Thor and the Thing at the same time, and this is classic Thor, the one that drove off Galactus with his godblast. The only way he was temporarily defeated was that he was turned to stone.

His latest incarnation has had one, possibly two upgrades. First upgrade was being resurrected by Death; Death further enhanced his existing power and stripped away the technological implants (he grew in strength enough that they were no longer necessary) so that he could accomplish a very important mission, which was to extinguish half the population in the universe. Death is the one that granted him this newfound power. Thanos himself didn't know the full extent to which he had become boosted, which is one of the reasons that he sought to test himself against the likes of Odin and Tyrant.

His second possible upgrade (unverified) was when his body was destroyed when he took control of the Heart of the Infinite (THOTU as some call it). He later recreated his body using infinite power; he could have granted himself further strength and durability, nobody knows for certain.

Now these are all just baseline upgrades. Let's not forget the fact that he originally could amp up his strength and durability using cosmic energies, part of his inheritance as an Eternal, and let's not forget that he was a mutant Eternal on top of that, and was probably the top energy manipulator amongst the Eternals. To top that off, he also has control of another source of energy, seemingly granted to him from Death herself, as many times people can see that mistress Death appears to have fueled his strength even further (for example Aegis and Tenebrous mention Death as his master and can see her energies around him).

So you have the existing powerhouse body that was already way above baseline class 100, upgraded through technology, then upgraded yet again, then possibly upgraded again after that, augmentable with cosmic energy (which he possesses even greater control over than Silver Surfer). That is why they say that his strength is potentially limitless or enhanced to an unknown degree because there is no accurate measurement for the level of strength that he possesses.

Also:

"if he ( Peter David ) thought Thanos was on a physical strength level higher than Hulk at any time he was writing (meaning various incarnations)."

David's reply was simple, answering: "Yeah, probably. Thanos is kind of in his own weight class."

So basically Thanos when he amps himself is stronger than any version of the Hulk that has ever been shown during Peter David's writing.

Originally posted by DigiMark007


Disagree on nearly every count. I know of at least 3 on that list Thanos has actually beaten in comics. Darkseid, Hulk (easily), Champion (who was only stronger when he had the Power Gem).

...people forget that half the time when Thanos is punking the sh*t out of heralds and such, he doesn;t use his energy powers at all...it's just the pimp hand and a little elbow grease.

You actually think Thanos can Punk Infinity Man who is stronger than Superman? By Far. Darkeseid is far Superior to Superman as well. And Champion doesn't need the PG to be superior in strength. Also Super boy prime would make thanos his *****. Despero has beaten the entire league and you disagree? My god what is this? Thanos twilight zone?

Originally posted by Kutulu
In order to understand Thanos' strength level, let's take a look at his background.

First off: He is an eternal.
http://www.marvel.com/universe/Eternals
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternals_%28comics%29

An average Eternal start off lifting 15 tons. Immune to poison, disease, and aging, almost impossible to kill. Extreme control over their bodies, capable of harnessing cosmic energy and infusing it through their bodies, healing internal wounds, etc..


So even blasting their bodies into vapor, they can return.

All eternals can:

Project damaging blasts and/or blinding flashes of energy from their eyes and hands.
Fly (average top speed 600 mph) and levitate others.
Read minds.
Generate illusions.
Teleport vast distances, though doing so leaves most Eternals momentarily fatigued or dazed.
Transmute objects, altering both their shape and composition. This ability is very taxing to most Eternals.

Now that we know the baseline Eternal (average citizen), let's take a look at how Thanos was, before his first death:
* He is a mutant. Picture how tough Colossus is compared to a regular human, this is how Thanos is to a regular Eternal in terms of strength and durability.
* He took his already incredible strength and durability, and enhanced it even further using technology.

Before he died and was reborn, he easily took out both Thor and the Thing at the same time, and this is classic Thor, the one that drove off Galactus with his godblast. The only way he was temporarily defeated was that he was turned to stone.

His latest incarnation has had one, possibly two upgrades. First upgrade was being resurrected by Death; Death further enhanced his existing power and stripped away the technological implants (he grew in strength enough that they were no longer necessary) so that he could accomplish a very important mission, which was to extinguish half the population in the universe. Death is the one that granted him this newfound power. Thanos himself didn't know the full extent to which he had become boosted, which is one of the reasons that he sought to test himself against the likes of Odin and Tyrant.

His second possible upgrade (unverified) was when his body was destroyed when he took control of the Heart of the Infinite (THOTU as some call it). He later recreated his body using infinite power; he could have granted himself further strength and durability, nobody knows for certain.

Now these are all just baseline upgrades. Let's not forget the fact that he originally could amp up his strength and durability using cosmic energies, part of his inheritance as an Eternal, and let's not forget that he was a mutant Eternal on top of that, and was probably the top energy manipulator amongst the Eternals. To top that off, he also has control of another source of energy, seemingly granted to him from Death herself, as many times people can see that mistress Death appears to have fueled his strength even further (for example Aegis and Tenebrous mention Death as his master and can see her energies around him).

So you have the existing powerhouse body that was already way above baseline class 100, upgraded through technology, then upgraded yet again, then possibly upgraded again after that, augmentable with cosmic energy (which he possesses even greater control over than Silver Surfer). That is why they say that his strength is potentially limitless or enhanced to an unknown degree because there is no accurate measurement for the level of strength that he possesses.

And there is an accurate measurement for those beings that I named? How do we automatically put Thanos over any of the beings I named when they have all shown to be superior to top tiers? Multiple ones at that? I do sense something else behind thanos' absolute certainty of strength here. Favoritism. When someone shows me the Hulks upper limit, Superman's Absolute Sundipped Upperlimit, DS's upperlimit, Despero's upperlimit, SUperboy primes upperlimit, and anyone else i mentioned, Than I'll be quiet about it. Until then, I'm just going to assume every one thinks Thanos is As strong as Precrisis SUperman becuz that is sure as hell what it seems like.

Aside from Planet Pushing, what did Superboy Prime do to put him past the top tier? Kal-L and Superman didn't have much of a hard time with pushing him through a sun.

Either way, Thanos physically beats down people that are near impervious to damage all the time. Though it's hard to gauge his strength because he only has fighting feats, it's obvious to see the guy is clearly above the top tier.

Originally posted by Howard_Jones
Aside from Planet Pushing, what did Superboy Prime do to put him past the top tier? Kal-L and Superman didn't have much of a hard time with pushing him through a sun.

Either way, Thanos physically beats down people that are near impervious to damage all the time. Though it's hard to gauge his strength because he only has fighting feats, it's obvious to see the guy is clearly above the top tier.

Quoted for Truth. When you can trade blows with Warrior Madness Thor (said to be ten times his normal strength) further enhanced with the Power Gem, for fun, then that clearly puts him leagues ahead of the top tier heroes.

Thor already has planet busting Strength, beyond busting up planets, what else can you really do for strength feats?

Originally posted by Howard_Jones
Aside from Planet Pushing, what did Superboy Prime do to put him past the top tier? Kal-L and Superman didn't have much of a hard time with pushing him through a sun.

Either way, Thanos physically beats down people that are near impervious to damage all the time. Though it's hard to gauge his strength because he only has fighting feats, it's obvious to see the guy is clearly above the top tier.

Planet Pushing? How about Planet Pushing so fast that No one knew the planets had moved. We aren't talking about struggling to move a planet. We are talking about moving planets around vast distances with ease. We are also talking about a being who punches so hard, that he messes with the matrix of time and retcons time itself. But it's what ever. People will jock thanos who has NO lifting feats. It's just rediculous. And then put him above other above top tiers for no reason. There is no reason Thanos should be rated above Despero, InfinityMan, Psycho Hulk, Champion, Full Confidence Gladiator , or a Well sun amped Superman. It's impossible to even speculate. But people just give thanos the credit. Based on what, a couple fights he's had. And some other things he's done with "little" help.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Planet Pushing? How about Planet Pushing so fast that No one knew the planets had moved. We aren't talking about struggling to move a planet. We are talking about moving planets around vast distances with ease. We are also talking about a being who punches so hard, that he messes with the matrix of time and retcons time itself. But it's what ever. People will jock thanos who has NO lifting feats. It's just rediculous. And then put him above other above top tiers for no reason. There is no reason Thanos should be rated above Despero, InfinityMan, Psycho Hulk, Champion, Full Confidence Gladiator , or a Well sun amped Superman. It's impossible to even speculate. But people just give thanos the credit. Based on what, a couple fights he's had. And some other things he's done with "little" help.

Could you please calm down and just answer the question? There's no need to get in such a fuss.

The bigger feats he has are planet pushing, and breaking out of the Phantom Zone, which would put him around the levels of Majestros/Gladiator/Doomsday, or somewhere in that area.

Right. And even team-wreckers like Despero...we have to remember that Thanos is a team wrecker too. Hell, he's a planet-wrecker under good circumstances. So there really shouldn't be any herald-types, ever, if the conversation with Thanos...even in terms of just pure strength.

Originally posted by Kutulu
Quoted for Truth. When you can trade blows with Warrior Madness Thor (said to be ten times his normal strength) further enhanced with the Power Gem, for fun, then that clearly puts him leagues ahead of the top tier heroes.

Thor already has planet busting Strength, beyond busting up planets, what else can you really do for strength feats?

I dont' ever remember it saying Thor was ten times stronger in his madness mode. You dont' have to be as strong as someone to trade blows with them if you are tuffer than them. I.E. The Juggernaut can pretty much trade blows with anyone in his classic form becuz he was tuff as shit. He could be low class 100 and trade blows with someone. THanos is just tough as shit. All of this stuff is based on speculation. Thor is "said" to be ten times stronger. ( He wasn't in his right mind fighting like a warrior that is for sure, he was MAD), Thor was using the PG ( and in his madness mode, he was using it correctly? How is this possible when Champion using the PG subconciously almost scared the shit out of thanos), come on now.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Planet Pushing? How about Planet Pushing so fast that No one knew the planets had moved. We aren't talking about struggling to move a planet. We are talking about moving planets around vast distances with ease. We are also talking about a being who punches so hard, that he messes with the matrix of time and retcons time itself. But it's what ever. People will jock thanos who has NO lifting feats. It's just rediculous. And then put him above other above top tiers for no reason. There is no reason Thanos should be rated above Despero, InfinityMan, Psycho Hulk, Champion, Full Confidence Gladiator , or a Well sun amped Superman. It's impossible to even speculate. But people just give thanos the credit. Based on what, a couple fights he's had. And some other things he's done with "little" help.

You are missing the point. Thanos doesn't need strength feats. Strength feats like lifting a mountain would be pointless to him. He is a mastermind, and should be treated as such, not like some weight lifting idiot. Do you see Dr. Doom bench pressing to test out his latest power armor? No, of course not. Do you see Darkseid curling neutron stars? No you do not. Quit treating Thanos like a simple brick, that is not meant to be how he is portrayed. When he fights, he fights with a reason, not just some mindless idiot brick. He is always out to accomplish something, and always has backup plans worked out ahead of time. Just because there is no comic where he lifted x quintillion tons (without the floor denting, no less!), doesn't mean that he lacks the strength to do so, it just means that isn't how he should be portrayed.

When he fights with people he likes to let them think they have a chance, like when he let captain america punch him in the face. He could have easily killed captain america with but a thought, but instead he wanted to taunt him. It's just how his style is.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Right. And even team-wreckers like Despero...we have to remember that Thanos is a team wrecker too. Hell, he's a planet-wrecker under good circumstances. So there really shouldn't be any herald-types, ever, if the conversation with Thanos...even in terms of just pure strength.

Despero and Thanos seem to be in the same range of one another. I wonder if Thanos could duplicate the Rock of Eternity feat from Virtue and Vice?

Hmmm.

Originally posted by Howard_Jones
Could you please calm down and just answer the question? There's no need to get in such a fuss.

The bigger feats he has are planet pushing, and breaking out of the Phantom Zone, which would put him around the levels of Majestros/Gladiator/Doomsday, or somewhere in that area.

LOL, First of all, Gladiator, Doomsday, or Majestros can all be classified as More than Top tier on thier best. Glads with full confidence, doomsday as H/P, and majestros are all over the top heavy hitters in the strength dep. And you make it as if planet pushing is an every day feat. Especially strong enough to push them with EASE. SBP also Broke thru the will power of 30 gl's. You think Thanos coudl do that? this is what I mean. it is the thanos twilight zone.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I dont' ever remember it saying Thor was ten times stronger in his madness mode. You dont' have to be as strong as someone to trade blows with them if you are tuffer than them. I.E. The Juggernaut can pretty much trade blows with anyone in his classic form becuz he was tuff as shit. He could be low class 100 and trade blows with someone. THanos is just tough as shit. All of this stuff is based on speculation. Thor is "said" to be ten times stronger. ( He wasn't in his right mind fighting like a warrior that is for sure, he was MAD), Thor was using the PG ( and in his madness mode, he was using it correctly? How is this possible when Champion using the PG subconciously almost scared the shit out of thanos), come on now.

The Power Gem is tapped into subconsciously automatically by it's owner. WM Thor was tapping into it because the more amped up your emotions get while having the power gem, the more amped up your strength and durability get, and WM wasn't holding back at all like he normally does. He was tapping into it a great deal.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
LOL, First of all, Gladiator, Doomsday, or Majestros can all be classified as More than Top tier on thier best. Glads with full confidence, doomsday as H/P, and majestros are all over the top heavy hitters in the strength dep. And you make it as if planet pushing is an every day feat.

Actually, it is. Majestros and Gladiator have both done it pretty casually. Hell, I think Majestros rearranged an entire solar system by himself.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Especially strong enough to push them with EASE. SBP also Broke thru the will power of 30 gl's. You think Thanos coudl do that? this is what I mean. it is the thanos twilight zone.

You should already know the answer to the question when it comes to Thanos. Also, I don't remember SBP busting 30 GL's. He only killed about five or so while they were just trying to restrain him.

Originally posted by Kutulu
You are missing the point. Thanos doesn't need strength feats. Strength feats like lifting a mountain would be pointless to him. He is a mastermind, and should be treated as such, not like some weight lifting idiot. Do you see Dr. Doom bench pressing to test out his latest power armor? No, of course not. Do you see Darkseid curling neutron stars? No you do not. Quit treating Thanos like a simple brick, that is not meant to be how he is portrayed. When he fights, he fights with a reason, not just some mindless idiot brick. He is always out to accomplish something, and always has backup plans worked out ahead of time. Just because there is no comic where he lifted x quintillion tons (without the floor denting, no less!), doesn't mean that he lacks the strength to do so, it just means that isn't how he should be portrayed.

When he fights with people he likes to let them think they have a chance, like when he let captain america punch him in the face. He could have easily killed captain america with but a thought, but instead he wanted to taunt him. It's just how his style is.

I know all of this. DS requires even less strength feats and doesn't even hand to hand much. The point is, Where is the evidence that Thanos is Precrisis superman lvl in strength. Cuz that is basically what it amounts to.

Thanos is above Herald Level but below Skyfather level.

He could beat Silver Surfer, but would lose to Odin after a long match.

Originally posted by Howard_Jones
Actually, it is. Majestros and Gladiator have both done it pretty casually. Hell, I think Majestros rearranged an entire solar system by himself.



You should already know the answer to the question when it comes to Thanos. Also, I don't remember SBP busting 30 GL's. He only killed about five or so while they were just trying to restrain him.

NO, he burst thru the will power of 30 GL's. I doubt Thanos break thru the will power of 30 herald lvl beings. Also, As far as planet moving, I"m saying anyone who can move planets with ease, and no one moves them easier than SBP, is above Top tier.

Originally posted by Howard_Jones
Despero and Thanos seem to be in the same range of one another. I wonder if Thanos could duplicate the Rock of Eternity feat from Virtue and Vice?

Hmmm.

i agree.

http://img284.imageshack.us/img284/6162/despero1uu7.th.jpg

http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/1379/despero3tn4.th.jpg

http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/5568/despero4nl2.jpg

sorry the image was doubled. ^%$##$@ imageshack keeps %^%$#@* me over . . . anyway, when the smoke clears despero is standing beneath the tip of the rock and HOLDING IT UP!! and leaving ww laying and doing that to superman and cap marvel . . .

jawdrop

despero is one bad hombre . . .

Originally posted by leonidas
i agree.

http://img284.imageshack.us/img284/6162/despero1uu7.th.jpg

http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/1379/despero3tn4.th.jpg

http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/1379/despero3tn4.th.jpg

leaving ww laying and doing that to superman and cap marvel . . .

jawdrop

despero is one bad hombre . . .

Not a big DC fan, but Virtue and Vice was teh awesome!

Love that feat.

Originally posted by Howard_Jones
Not a big DC fan, but Virtue and Vice was teh awesome!

Love that feat.

it WAS friggin' great. can't understand why i posted a double image in imageshack though . . .

^%$#@!$ imageshack!!

i fixed and reposted the necessary scan . . . criminy . . ..

So far we all agree that Despero is in Thanos' strength league. So Thanos is not alone then. Let's test the others out in my list. Pick it apart. SBP is a hell of alot stronger than Despero, but we dont' seem to think he can hang with Thanos. why not?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I know all of this. DS requires even less strength feats and doesn't even hand to hand much. The point is, Where is the evidence that Thanos is Precrisis superman lvl in strength. Cuz that is basically what it amounts to.

Pre-crisis, as in sneezing out a galaxy in another universe? Travelling so fast he meets up with God? No, he's not that powerful.

despero handled marvel almost as effortlessly as sbp handled adam. what makes you so sure sbp>despero?

Originally posted by leonidas
despero handled marvel almost as effortlessly as sbp handled adam. what makes you so sure sbp>despero?

He handled him easier, though. Despero doesn't seem to have many problems knocking around top tiers the way Thanos does.

Originally posted by leonidas
despero handled marvel almost as effortlessly as sbp handled adam. what makes you so sure sbp>despero?

SBP punked 30 gls and moved planets so fast that no one knew. when that feat is duplicated by Despero, I'll think he's as strong as SBP. When SBP grows up and gets out of that prison and absorbs more sunlight, He's gonna be one mean and bad MF.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
SBP punked 30 gls and moved planets so fast that no one knew. when that feat is duplicated by Despero, I'll think he's as strong as SBP.

He didn't punk 30 GLS. He didn't even break through their wall. He ran away like a little coward.

Originally posted by Howard_Jones
He didn't punk 30 GLS. He didn't even break through their wall. He ran away like a little coward.

Originally posted by Howard_Jones
He handled him easier, though. Despero doesn't seem to have many problems knocking around top tiers the way Thanos does.



not sure what you're trying to say here. sbp handled adam easier? despero has an easier time knocking around top tiers than thanos does?

and i'm not sure where the whole punking 30 gls is coming from either. despero pretty much toyed with gardner in an earlier arc. most gls with the exception of the top ones are fodder for writers.

hunter/prey doomsday and gog wars doomsday i would put in this same uber-class. sbp as well, but i'd not say he was much above -- if at all -- these others.

ps-be hard for despero (or thanos for that matter) to 'push' a planet, seeing as how he/they can't fly . . . (in that sense, planet-pushing is as much willpower as strength, since it is willpower that lets supes and sbp fly.)

Originally posted by leonidas


not sure what you're trying to say here. sbp handled adam easier? despero has an easier time knocking around top tiers than thanos does?

and i'm not sure where the whole punking 30 gls is coming from either. despero pretty much toyed with gardner in an earlier arc. most gls with the exception of the top ones are fodder for writers.

hunter/prey doomsday and gog wars doomsday i would put in this same uber-class. sbp as well, but i'd not say he was much above -- if at all -- these others.

ps-be hard for despero (or thanos for that matter) to 'push' a planet, seeing as how he/they can't fly . . . (in that sense, planet-pushing is as much willpower as strength, since it is willpower that lets supes and sbp fly.) Without the strength to keep your arms grounded, they would turn to dust under all the pressure. It's strength that allows anyone to push a planet. The 30 gl's comes in when all those Gl's made a 300 mile thick wall of pure will power that SBP handily broke thru and proceeded to kill many gl's.

So how strong do you guys think someone needs to be to do this:

http://img236.imageshack.us/my.php?image=odin108cb.jpg

Its durability that allows him to survive the attack, but its strength that lets him keep advancing and resist the force opposing him and wrestle gungir from Odin. What strength would be needed for that? Captain America level? Spider-Man? Thing? Thor? Gladiator? Hulk?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Without the strength to keep your arms grounded, they would turn to dust under all the pressure. It's strength that allows anyone to push a planet. The 30 gl's comes in when all those Gl's made a 300 mile thick wall of pure will power that SBP handily broke thru and proceeded to kill many gl's.

but without being able to fly, it's impossible to 'push a planet'. strength isn't letting them fly, willpower is. and they don't need arms -- shoulders will do fine. why don't they plow through the planet though? meh, pointless discussion. they need to fly to do the feat, and it takes MORE than strength to fly, and hence to push a planet.

Originally posted by Wally West
So how strong do you guys think someone needs to be to do this:

http://img236.imageshack.us/my.php?image=odin108cb.jpg

Its durability that allows him to survive the attack, but its strength that lets him keep advancing and resist the force opposing him and wrestle gungir from Odin. What strength would be needed for that? Captain America level? Spider-Man? Thing? Thor? Gladiator? Hulk?

Above Thor level by far.

Originally posted by leonidas
but without being able to fly, it's impossible to 'push a planet'. strength isn't letting them fly, willpower is. and they don't need arms -- shoulders will do fine. why don't they plow through the planet though? meh, pointless discussion. they need to fly to do the feat, and it takes MORE than strength to fly, and hence to push a planet.

Not going to argue the point. IF all one needed to do was fly to be able to push a planet, Iron man or the wasp could do it. So i'm done with debating about that. we have our differences of opinion.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
SBP is a hell of alot stronger than Despero, but we dont' seem to think he can hang with Thanos.

Quit throwing around opinions like they're solid fact.

All we know is that Despero is more powerful (presumably stronger) than regular Superman. By his feats, so is SBP. But we don't have definitive levels for either of them, so how do we "know" that SBP is more powerful??

Answer: We don't. And since Thanos usually doesn't have to push his strength limits when he slaps around heralds, we also don't know his level.

So it's pointless to try to assert things that we can't prove.

Originally posted by Wally West
So how strong do you guys think someone needs to be to do this:

http://img236.imageshack.us/my.php?image=odin108cb.jpg

Its durability that allows him to survive the attack, but its strength that lets him keep advancing and resist the force opposing him and wrestle gungir from Odin. What strength would be needed for that? Captain America level? Spider-Man? Thing? Thor? Gladiator? Hulk?

How strong is Odin? What lvl of blast was Odin shooting out? Was it his best galaxy busting lvl? I have no way of knowing. It's all speculative unless the panel says how much force Odin was putting out and How strong Odin is. I'd wager Many beings are strong enough to do that. Doomsday certainly could. As could Despero. The thing with that trick is, Someone like SBP has the strength to do it, But I dont' know about his durability. SO it makes it hard to gage. I'm sure people can pull up insane feats of strength like the hulk clapping a cosmos. How ever strong you need to be to do that. Or Superman and Ww holding the spectre. How ever strong you need to be to do that. All of these things have the same thing in common. No quatifiable way to know how much strength is actually required. they are all shock value, awefactor feats. Some people just choose to make one mean more than another when none of them are quantifiable.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Quit throwing around opinions like they're solid fact.

All we know is that Despero is more powerful (presumably stronger) than regular Superman. By his feats, so is SBP. But we don't have definitive levels for either of them, so how do we "know" that SBP is more powerful??

Answer: We don't. And since Thanos usually doesn't have to push his strength limits when he slaps around heralds, we also don't know his level.

So it's pointless to try to assert things that we can't prove.
Like someone saying Thor is ten times stronger in warrior madness and had the PG and thanos beat him. I dont' remember it saying thor was ten time stronger. Thanos couldn't even go fist to fist with Champion with the PG, How would he go toe to toe with WM "ten Times" stronger thor with PG? But people throw that out there all the time.

Uber strength God? No. Vastly above the likes of Superman? Yes...

You forget that his strength can also be fueled by the cosmic energy he commands...making it practically limitless. We are talking about a guy who has stood against the likes of Tyrant in direct strength matching.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Maybe you should tell everyone else that. Since everyone seems to think it's solid fact that Thanos is the Uber strength God.

And you're convined that he isn't....same problem, different sides. But he whups on heralds constantly with just strength, so it's reasonable to assume he's stronger than most of them, but we don't know by how much. I haven't seen any kind of solid evidence to suggest otherwise.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Uber strength God? No. Vastly above the likes of Superman? Yes...

You forget that his strength can also be fueled by the cosmic energy he commands...making it practically limitless. We are talking about a guy who has stood against the likes of Tyrant in direct strength matching.

Vastly? Hmm. Superman fans would disagree. I tend to think Superman Sun amping would put him in Thanos' lvl very easily and beyond.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Thanos couldn't even go fist to fist with Champion with the PGYou make it sound like thats easy and anyone could do it....in theory only Hulk could match the strength of the PG.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Not going to argue the point. IF all one needed to do was fly to be able to push a planet, Iron man or the wasp could do it. So i'm done with debating about that. we have our differences of opinion.

fair enough. but ironman and wasp can't reach light speeds either. the ability to generate that level of speed means the character can generate a . . . lot of momentum and force -- momentum and force that have an origin somewher OTHER than strength. that said, there is obviously some correlation between strength and flight, but in the example flight IS necessary to achieve said feat so you'll NEVER see despero or thanos duplicate it.

of course, there has also been speculation that supes strength is based on his OWN willpower . . . so perhaps in his case the 2 are linked.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
And you're convined that he isn't....same problem, different sides. But he whups on heralds constantly with just strength, so it's reasonable to assume he's stronger than most of them, but we don't know by how much. I haven't seen any kind of solid evidence to suggest otherwise.

Are all Heralds class 100? Do they have the same lvl of endurance? Can Thanos or has Thanos ever Beaten Morg hand to hand, whom I consider above top tier in terms of strength.

Originally posted by Wally West
You make it sound like thats easy and anyone could do it....in theory only Hulk could match the strength of the PG.

Or Superman ( Sun amping), Or Gladiator,( confindence supreme), Or any PC Krytonian

actually in h2h morg did a pretty good job against thanos . . .

Originally posted by leonidas
fair enough. but ironman and wasp can't reach light speeds either. the ability to generate that level of speed means the character can generate a . . . lot of momentum and force -- momentum and force that have an origin somewher OTHER than strength. that said, there is obviously some correlation between strength and flight, but in the example flight IS necessary to achieve said feat so you'll NEVER see despero or thanos duplicate it.

of course, there has also been speculation that supes strength is based on his OWN willpower . . . so perhaps in his case the 2 are linked.

In this you are correct. Maybe the lvl to which a character can move or carry something by flight is linked to the lvl of thier superstrength. We won't ever see Northstar or Light ray ever push a planet, no matter how fast they fly, becuz light ray is as best class 75, and Northstar is regular as far as I know. It would seem we both have half of the equation correct.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Or Superman ( Sun amping), Or Gladiator,( confindence supreme), Or any PC Krytonian So you think those 3 could all match the power gem for strength no matter what? No matter how long the user kept using the gem to amp their strength, those 3 would always be able to match it?

Ok SO right now, The Exclusive Thanos club there is, Doomsday, Despero, Morg, Darksied, and Superboy prime. That's it then. The strongest Beings in comics are all villians. What about the Infinity man? HighFather? Orion is also able to go toe to toe with DS when the Mother box is gone. I still think the hulk, can go toe to toe with thanos if he is thrown into the fight thinking Thanos killed betty.

Originally posted by Wally West
So you think those 3 could all match the power gem for strength no matter what? No matter how long the user kept using the gem to amp their strength, those 3 would always be able to match it?

PC superman would more than likely kill anyone using the PG before they ever dreamed of reachin his lvls, and he has none. PC superman could move the universe and the writers would make it make sense. The other's are debateable as they can also have unlimted strength to draw on. Hell, Takion can match the PG blow for blow.

Originally posted by leonidas
actually in h2h morg did a pretty good job against thanos . . . They didn't really go HTH though did they? Morg tackled him to the floor, tried to hit him with his axe, Thanos blocked with Terrax's axe and then ended the fight with one blast. Not much to go on there.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
In this you are correct.

oh, whew . . .

anyway, ss has gone h2h with morg, and proved his equal and superior in overall power.

ss whoops morg who has done well in the past against thanos, and yet ss gets crushed everytime against thanos. maybe there IS soemthing to the idea of a jobber aura . . .

Originally posted by Wally West
They didn't really go HTH though did they? Morg tackled him to the floor, tried to hit him with his axe, Thanos blocked with Terrax's axe and then ended the fight with one blast. Not much to go on there.

MOrg has always been physically, the strongest of the Heralds if I remember correctly. Even Tyrant liked morg's power.

Originally posted by Wally West
They didn't really go HTH though did they? Morg tackled him to the floor, tried to hit him with his axe, Thanos blocked with Terrax's axe and then ended the fight with one blast. Not much to go on there.

you may be right. i'd have to look it up. i thought the fight lasted longer than that, but i may be incorrect . . .

Originally posted by leonidas
you may be right. i'd have to look it up. i thought the fight lasted longer than that, but i may be incorrect . . .

Morg still has to be bad assed to Tackle Thanos to the floor. I haven't seen that too many times, if ever.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
SBP punked 30 gls
You mean that 30 GL's jobbed to SBP right? Cause it was actually established on panel that they were holding back. It's easy to hold your own against people who's goal is to capture, while your perfectly content to kill.

Originally posted by leonidas
oh, whew . . .

anyway, ss has gone h2h with morg, and proved his equal and superior in overall power.

ss whoops morg who has done well in the past against thanos, and yet ss gets crushed everytime against thanos. maybe there IS soemthing to the idea of a jobber aura . . .


actually thanos was only trying to contain morg. U would know that if u actually read the comic !!!!!!!!

Originally posted by thanospimphand
actually thanos was only trying to contain morg. U would know that if u actually read the comic !!!!!!!!

He was talking about Morg's fight with Surfer, not Thanos'.



...but way to defend your boy and stick your foot in your mouth at the same time. That takes skill.

Originally posted by leonidas
fair enough. but ironman and wasp can't reach light speeds either. the ability to generate that level of speed means the character can generate a . . . lot of momentum and force -- momentum and force that have an origin somewher OTHER than strength. that said, there is obviously some correlation between strength and flight, but in the example flight IS necessary to achieve said feat so you'll NEVER see despero or thanos duplicate it.

of course, there has also been speculation that supes strength is based on his OWN willpower . . . so perhaps in his case the 2 are linked.

Superman's strength IS linked to his near infinite willpower. I had posted a scan of it before...but I'm too lazy to look it up right now.

Interesting. Should i assume its a concensuous opinion that since the discussion quickly went towards the likes of Desespero who are/wer considerably above top tier in strength that...Thanos is above that level?

I guess the discussion between if hes only at that level or above, like its been going on another thread, its oficially over. To all who participated, my thanks.

And Leonidas, thanks for the Desespero scans.

I'd say Thanos and Despero are equal, to be honest. The only top tiers I could think that could replicate that would be Thanos, and Hulk, but Hulk would have a harder time at first.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Answer: We don't. And since Thanos usually doesn't have to push his strength limits when he slaps around heralds, we also don't know his level.
True. We don't know his level. So why does the majority believes he actually is stronger than let's say Superman, a character who does have countless crazy strength feats ?

And it's also pointless to assume some things.

I say Thanos is somewhere between bloodthirsty Hulk and Abstract

Originally posted by golem370
I say Thanos is somewhere between bloodthirsty Hulk and Abstract

I just knwo your not serious. Thanos isn't even more powerful than Odin. Who's a skyfather.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
True. We don't know his level. So why does the majority believes he actually is stronger than let's say Superman, a character who does have countless crazy strength feats ?

And it's also pointless to assume some things.

I'd agree. But I'm not assuming anything. All I've been doing is seperating the opinion in this thread from what we do know.

Originally posted by thanospimphand
actually thanos was only trying to contain morg. U would know that if u actually read the comic !!!!!!!!



http://img303.imageshack.us/img303/5041/morgag0.th.jpg

http://img303.imageshack.us/img303/1566/morg2da4.th.jpg

http://img303.imageshack.us/img303/4607/morg3sm8.th.jpg

"contain him".



gotta love when someone chimes in for the first time, attempts an insult of some sort and immediately proceeds to stick his foot directly into his own craw. beautiful . . .

anyway, even that didn't end the fight. morg was stopped for a moment (one panel) then he was back up and tackling terrax after thanos returned terrax's axe to him.

i wonder what morg's axe would have done had it connected with that last shot? oh, and i loved how morg ran straight through thanos's first blast like it was rain . . .

Thanos doesnt have a strength level, he is as strong as he needs to be, whenever he needs to be it. But hes more dangerous as a matter manipulator and genius, than a tank

Originally posted by Wally West
You make it sound like thats easy and anyone could do it....in theory only Hulk could match the strength of the PG.
No way the hulk could match the Power gem in Thanos's hands...not even at his meanest baddest incarnation...

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
You can't **** with Thanos. Nobody this side of Galactus beats him outright. You can bring up the tyrant fight, but Thanos, with a little help, was holding his own. Against a guy who used to on par with Galactus, and even depowered, whupped Surfer and a large crowd of heroes. Thanos is insanely powerful, maybe stronger than pretty much anyone on earth. Even RK Thor would have some trouble. Though, he might be able to win. I'm not up on RK's feats.
My favorite TP post ever, hands down.

PC- validus makes thanos his little sister...super man prime, super man 1M....trion juggs could if the fight was h2h...

Originally posted by riptorn311
No way the hulk could match the Power gem in Thanos's hands...not even at his meanest baddest incarnation... thanos choked the shit out of hulk in ig

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
You can't **** with Thanos. Nobody this side of Galactus beats him outright. You can bring up the tyrant fight, but Thanos, with a little help, was holding his own. Against a guy who used to on par with Galactus, and even depowered, whupped Surfer and a large crowd of heroes. Thanos is insanely powerful, maybe stronger than pretty much anyone on earth. Even RK Thor would have some trouble. Though, he might be able to win. I'm not up on RK's feats.

Look at TP's post... You see trick this is when you actually made sense before the DS & DC infatuation/masturbation/blind wanking clouded your brain. Go back to these ways and stay away from the "darkside"

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Look at TP's post... You see trick this is when you actually made sense before the DS & DC infatuation/masturbation/blind wanking clouded your brain. Go back to these ways and stay away from the "darkside"

Thanos fight RKT?

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Thanos fight RKT?



Well in this I agree with you Kris that is funny. RKT beats Thanos but Thanos would give him a decent run.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Well in this I agree with you Kris that is funny. RKT beats Thanos but Thanos would give him a decent run.

Yeah, like Mangog.

Like Classic Thor vs. Mangog. crackers

Well on par with post crisis Superman imo.

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
Well on par with post crisis Superman imo. Well above Superman.

I would say about 1000-100,000 ton range. Well below Superman.

Originally posted by h1a8
I would say about 1000-100,000 ton range. Well below Superman. Based on what?

Originally posted by h1a8
I would say about 1000-100,000 ton range. Well below Superman. shut up swine flu.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Based on what?

Based on him not having any astronomical strength feats. And that is initial strength was about 90-100 tons before upgrades. I consider punching feats, wrestling feats, lifting and pulling feats. Has Thanos wrestled (was locked with) anyone of notable strength and held his own?

Originally posted by h1a8
Based on him not having any astronomical strength feats. And that is initial strength was about 90-100 tons before upgrades. I consider punching feats, wrestling feats, lifting and pulling feats. Has Thanos wrestled (was locked with) anyone of notable strength and held his own? Tyrant, Hulk, and the Thing simultaneously, beat the Surfer into submission in a few blows, and physically taking on power gem Thor. What has Superman done that convinced you?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Tyrant, Hulk, and the Thing simultaneously, beat the Surfer into submission in a few blows, and physically taking on power gem Thor. What has Superman done that convinced you?

We are talking about strength, not durability or shooting energy blasts or even beating the Surfer with amped fists. Sorry but Professor Hulk is very weak to me. I would put him only a few notches above Thing (who is known to be in the 100-1000 ton range).

Hell if I had 1000 ton strength with super durability and some decent speed then I certainly would hang with nearly anyone in h2h.

Originally posted by h1a8
or even beating the Surfer with amped fists.
He didn't use any energy to amp his punches when he KO'd Surfer.

Originally posted by h1a8
Sorry but Professor Hulk is very weak to me. I would put him only a few notches above Thing (who is known to be in the 100-1000 ton range).
Really? Because Professor Hulk is the same one who held up 150 billion ton mountain range that happened to be larger than the Andes.

Originally posted by h1a8
We are talking about strength, not durability or shooting energy blasts or even beating the Surfer with amped fists. Sorry but Professor Hulk is very weak to me. I would put him only a few notches above Thing (who is known to be in the 100-1000 ton range).

Hell if I had 1000 ton strength with super durability and some decent speed then I certainly would hang with nearly anyone in h2h. He overpowered the Hulk and the Thing. That shows he is well above professor hulk.

He challenged Tyrant and power gem Thor. Did you read either story?


How is beating the Surfer up not a strength feat?

What has Superman done?

what has doomsday ever lifted?

Originally posted by Enyalus

He didn't use any energy to amp his punches when he KO'd Surfer. He must have koed Surfer more than once with his fists then. Because Thanos's fists were glowing when he was beating the mess out of Surfer.

That is Pis. Also he only braced part of it with help.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He overpowered the Hulk and the Thing. That shows he is well above professor hulk.

He challenged Tyrant and power gem Thor. Did you read either story?


How is beating the Surfer up not a strength feat?

What has Superman done?

Fighting someone h2h doesn't prove how strong you are. It only shows a lower bound of your strength. Beating Surfer is indeed a strength feat. Did you read my post above.

I consider punching feats, wrestling feats, lifting and pulling feats. Has Thanos wrestled (was locked with) anyone of notable strength and held his own?

It just the glowing fists seems to add to the punches (It wasn't strength alone).

You know what Superman has done.

Originally posted by h1a8
He must have koed Surfer more than once with his fists then. Because Thanos's fists were glowing when he was beating the mess out of Surfer.
Meh, three blows were with energy surrounding his fists, and four were without it.

Why does it matter that he amped his fists with energy, anyway, if its a valid strength feat for you? Thanos can amp himself with energy. Its in his powerset.

Originally posted by h1a8
That is Pis. Also he only braced part of it with help.
What the hell has happened to KMC in the past few weeks? I'd never even heard of anyone claiming high-end feats were "PIS" until Leonheart did it a week back. Only low-end stuff. But of course (I) it isn't PIS because Hulk has more strength feats than just that (II) he did not have help bracing it at all and (III) do you know what bracing is? He wasn't strong enough to lift it all the way off of them, but he was strong enough to hold it up (brace) and keep it from crushing them. And it was 10,000+ feet high, and more horizontally/in length.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
what has doomsday ever lifted?

Originally posted by psycho gundam
what has doomsday ever lifted?
Superman.

Originally posted by h1a8
I would say about 1000-100,000 ton range. Well below Superman.



in your dreams.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He overpowered the Hulk and the Thing. That shows he is well above professor hulk.

He challenged Tyrant and power gem Thor. Did you read either story?


How is beating the Surfer up not a strength feat?

What has Superman done?


You tell em quanchii!



superman is not even in the ball park to thanos is strength and duribility. Not base supes he will need a sundip for sure or be extremely pissed off. Like someone murdered lois lane in front of his eyes pissed off.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Superman. then according to hia8 aka swine flu's logic, doomsday is only able to lift around 200 or so pounds.

Originally posted by h1a8
Fighting someone h2h doesn't prove how strong you are. It only shows a lower bound of your strength. Beating Surfer is indeed a strength feat. Did you read my post above.

I consider punching feats, wrestling feats, lifting and pulling feats. Has Thanos wrestled (was locked with) anyone of notable strength and held his own?

It just the glowing fists seems to add to the punches (It wasn't strength alone).

You know what Superman has done.


"wrestling feats" this isnt the WWF

"Arm wrestling" thanos dont arm wrestle with ya he just rips your arm off period.


I understand your point though superman does have more lifting feats, if this is what your refering too. But in all honesty in a physical fight its going to thanos and he aint going to need energy blasts to beat supes either. Supes is a brute but below thanos. Just my opinion.

Originally posted by zeel
"wrestling feats" this isnt the WWF

"Arm wrestling" thanos dont arm wrestle with ya he just rips your arm off period.


I understand your point though superman does have more lifting feats, if this is what your refering too. But in all honesty in a physical fight its going to thanos and he aint going to need energy blasts to beat supes either. Supes is a brute but below thanos. Just my opinion.

We are not saying who would win but where is Thanos physical strength level about. It is far below that of Superman as he has no feats to put him up there. His initial strength level before upgrades was 90-100 tons.

Lifting feats aren't the only thing that proves strength. Punching feats, wrestling feats, pulling feats, etc can prove strength also.

Durability feats against X strength characters and feats involving knocking X strength characters around doesn't prove the one is X strength level. Feats prove strength, not speculation.

^ doomsday. that's all i have to say.

i love this thread . . . .

Originally posted by h1a8
Fighting someone h2h doesn't prove how strong you are. It only shows a lower bound of your strength. Beating Surfer is indeed a strength feat. Did you read my post above.

I consider punching feats, wrestling feats, lifting and pulling feats. Has Thanos wrestled (was locked with) anyone of notable strength and held his own?

It just the glowing fists seems to add to the punches (It wasn't strength alone).

You know what Superman has done. I listed his strength feats and who he can take on physically. You said striking counts as a strength feat and the moment I liste dsome feats you wanted to ignore them because you knew you were had.

He wrestled with Tyrant who is well above any top tier.

I want you to tell me. I don't think you really even know and that you pretend to know.

Thanos is class 100+ strength.

Originally posted by Badabing
Thanos is class 100+ strength.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Well above Superman. Please, name one Thanos feat that makes him well above Supes in strength.

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
Please, name one Thanos feat that makes him well above Supes in strength.

Quanchi will now list actual battles with people and not strength feats. It'll be something like "Thanos fought Tyrant who is on another level than Superman" or some retarded reasoning like that.

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
Please, name one Thanos feat that makes him well above Supes in strength. Thanos doesnt have any strength/lifting feats,but in terms of punching power,grappling manding etc.

Beat surfer(maybe marvel top herald lvl guy) within a inch of his life with 6 punches.

Knocked around PG thor with punches

Held his own in a hook up/grapple with Tyrant

Easily manhandled Thing/Hulk together

Floored Vision,Iron man with a couple of hits which also sent Thor,Beast flyin at the same time

Originally posted by Nihilist
Thanos doesnt have any strength/lifting feats,but in terms of punching power,grappling manding etc.

Beat surfer(maybe marvel top herald lvl guy) within a inch of his life with 6 punches.

Knocked around PG thor with punches

Held his own in a hook up/grapple with Tyrant

Easily manhandled Thing/Hulk together

Floored Vision,Iron man with a couple of hits which also sent Thor,Beast flyin at the same time And those feats are why I put him around Superman's level.....none of them are superior to what Clark's and I feel it's well with in his capabilities to replicate them.

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
And those feats are why I put him around Superman's level.....none of them are superior to what Clark's and I feel it's well with in his capabilities to replicate them.


NAh clark is not manhandling top tiers like thanos. Your giving supes way to much credit here. IN a fist fight thanos is going to ass rape superman. WM thor couldnt down thanos.


WM thor is 10 times the strength as regular thor. AND WM thor physically is FAR beyoned a unamped superman. As far as duribility thanos has better duribility then supes, and i think he would fair better agasint herald types then supes any day of the week and thats takeing nothing away from supes. Thanos is just in another league. Supes could hurt thanos in a fight but he wont beat him it is not happening.


And as far as tyrant goes. Superman is not going to even stand a chance against tyrant.

Originally posted by zeel
NAh clark is not manhandling top tiers like thanos. Your giving supes way to much credit here. IN a fist fight thanos is going to ass rape superman. WM thor couldnt down thanos.

What does this have to do with anything?

Use your brain for three seconds and you'll figure out that it's not about establishing Thanos' overall strength. It's his physical strength we're trying to pinpoint here.

Originally posted by zeel
Top tiers like Thing and Professor Hulk.....my he arse can't. Pg Thor couldn't put Thanos down, because he cheated to beat him......up until that point, Thor appeared to have the upper hand and Thanos only struck him with atleast three blows, none of which appeared to do any significanct damage to Thor.


Again, Thor maybe no slouch, but the amount of damage he laid on him by Thanos was nothing to brag about. Not to mention that every adversary he defeated, was physically inferior to Supes......Thanos's best durability feat is with standing attacks from Odin and it's not even known how much power he was unleashing on Thanos. Seriously, considering Thanos's lack of lifting feats and such, it's VERY generous to say he's merely around Superman's level


Yes, because an amped Thanos that can briefly stalemate Tyrant, someone whose also lacking strength feats, is relevent evidence that supports an argument of him being stronger than Superman........

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
Please, name one Thanos feat that makes him well above Supes in strength. Taking on power gem Thor, physically taking on Tyrant, crushing the Silver Surfer, etc. Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Quanchi will now list actual battles with people and not strength feats. It'll be something like "Thanos fought Tyrant who is on another level than Superman" or some retarded reasoning like that. He was wrestling with him and knocked him around with a punch. It isn't retarded reasoning. You just don't want to give him any credit for some reason.Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
And those feats are why I put him around Superman's level.....none of them are superior to what Clark's and I feel it's well with in his capabilities to replicate them. Which feats could he replicate?

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
What does this have to do with anything?

Use your brain for three seconds and you'll figure out that it's not about establishing Thanos' overall strength. It's his physical strength we're trying to pinpoint here.


I should have Quoted Nihilist when i posted. Superman has more lifting feats then thanos. What im saying is that thanos is a better brawler then a unamped superman. I believe superman has very high duribility, but i think thanos triumps him even there. thanos has a better track record of beating multiple hearlds at a time. Lifting power? On panel supes has more feats, but it dont mean hes physically stronger. It just means he has more feats. thanos dont lift shit Kris, he rips it off. thanos dont save people and lift heavy objects outta the way to save them. He kills them.


If superman and thanos had a lifting contest im sure thanos would win. And im not taking anything away from supes. I dunno mabey supes would win but i doubt it. thanos is on a whole nother level.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Taking on power gem Thor, physically taking on Tyrant, crushing the Silver Surfer, etc. The bolded one is the only legitimate strength feat. The rest where brief matches, consisting of more than just physical displays.

Well, he physically grappled with Tyrant...

Originally posted by Enyalus
Well, he physically grappled with Tyrant... With an amp.....

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
With an amp..... The amp had nothing to do with the grapple or strength, the orb was used for what looked like his energy output.

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
The bolded one is the only legitimate strength feat. The rest where brief matches, consisting of more than just physical displays. Most battles have more than just strength involved when characters meet up. The point is he took Thor on physically who at the time was well above top tier in that arc and getting stronger each second. That's impressive. He got physical with Tyrant and held his own for a time. Tyrant is so above top tier it's sickening.Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
With an amp..... No, and that's debatable. The orb was not in his hand at the time of their physical struggle.

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
With an amp.....
What Quan said...the orb wasn't in his hand at the time of the physical grappling.

Originally posted by Enyalus
What Quan said...the orb wasn't in his hand at the time of the physical grappling. I'm still sore about that missing scan though.

not at all trying to be cocky, but why not just go through the Death Club?
anyways, the Handbook entry says he is immensly stronger than Eternals...also says the precise limits of his strength and endurance or unknown,but he is capable of exchanging blows with Odin. personally i think at least two things are implied by this.

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
With an amp..... the orb was a storage unit, all thanos used it for was to blast tyrant with, and hit him upside the head.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
You can't **** with Thanos. Nobody this side of Galactus beats him outright. You can bring up the tyrant fight, but Thanos, with a little help, was holding his own. Against a guy who used to on par with Galactus, and even depowered, whupped Surfer and a large crowd of heroes. Thanos is insanely powerful, maybe stronger than pretty much anyone on earth. Even RK Thor would have some trouble. Though, he might be able to win. I'm not up on RK's feats. I think I am saving this one. Trick before the bias set in.

Lets also not forget his wrestling match with Drax that destroyed a planet

Originally posted by Howard_Jones
Could you please calm down and just answer the question? There's no need to get in such a fuss.

The bigger feats he has are planet pushing, and breaking out of the Phantom Zone, which would put him around the levels of Majestros/Gladiator/Doomsday, or somewhere in that area. Ah, this must be that marcus fellow from herochat who kept coming back that bada told me about.