Eclipso's sigs
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Eclipso
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/598/eclipsxa5.jpg
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/9871/untitled1pyxz6.jpg
My fave one so far,
http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/1557/sing1wi5.jpg
Then I added my logo.
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/7185/sig1sf3.jpg
Does it look better with or without the "Eclipso" logo on it?
So how did I do? What do you like? Dislike? And where do I need improvement?
Eclipso
http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/7024/zerosigtt0.jpg
http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/7968/zerohoursigqy7.jpg
drewbiefan
Those are grrreat
![big grin](http://images.killermovies.com/forums/smilies/cartoon/biggrin.gif)
Eclipso
http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/7935/antisigcb8.jpg
http://img290.imageshack.us/img290/4384/anitsig2bk5.jpg
And of course:
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/7240/antisig3ez2.jpg
Eclipso
Comments anyone????
Gannon
Try blending the text in with overlay or lowering opacity.
What program are you using?
Eclipso
Photoshop 7
I know it's not the best to use, I'm going program shopping tommorow.
Eclipso
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/3830/thanossigiu5.jpg
http://img333.imageshack.us/img333/664/thanossigcopyut9.jpg
Raven Guardia
hmmm...okay question. Are you making the sigs like: background, effects, adding in stock or renders and text. or are you taking already made images from sites and adding your name? It looks like your "Eclipso" is pasted in.
With that said, try blending your fonts more into the sig. When a font is to large or not blended well enough it can appear to be "to eye catching". and Its distracting from the sig its self, which can be a down fall especially when the sig is done really well.
I really like the 'Zero Hour' One it looks good. I like the colors.
you might like this site : www.dafonts.com They have some really nice down loadable and free
![wink](http://images.killermovies.com/forums/smilies/cartoon/wink.gif)
fonts there. I got the majority of my fonts from that site.
Also try adding boarders to your sigs. It will give them more of a polished look.
this all I can really think of at the moment. But keep up the good work.
oh and one more last thing
![stick out tongue](http://images.killermovies.com/forums/smilies/cartoon/tongue.gif)
, and I have noticed the glow around your "Eclipso" is a yellowish color. You can change colors which might be useful to you, depending on the color scheme your using
Okay- I think thats it. I hope this helpful
![embarrasment](http://images.killermovies.com/forums/smilies/cartoon/redface.gif)
if you have any questions there are a lot of talented people here who can help you
![smile](http://images.killermovies.com/forums/smilies/cartoon/smile.gif)
Eclipso
How do I add borders? I've looked over the program and I can't find where that is?
I make the sigs and then I paste in my tag on them. But the sigs are my creations.
Raven Guardia
Originally posted by Eclipso
How do I add borders? I've looked over the program and I can't find where that is?
I make the sigs and then I paste in my tag on them. But the sigs are my creations.
okay you can add boarders with the 'stroke' option...I use CS2 so I am thinking PS 7 might be close.
go to edit> stroke> 3px>inside>choose color.
edit> stroke> 2px>inside> color
edit> stroke> 1px>inside> color
I usally just choose two colors and use one color for px 3 and 1 and the diffrent one for px2. but I keep them so they will match the sig and each other.
well your sigs are pretty good for just starting and your backgrounds are awesome!
Eclipso
Thanks it took me a long time to make those sigs.
I know this one isn't my best but I like it anyways,
http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/2299/mustafarcopysa0.jpg
Obviously your very knowledgble about this, who else on the site is a good reasource?
Raven Guardia
I think its good
hmmm, well there is: Lana, Barker, ThePittman,Kitay,Amity75,Thorin, Piggle Humsy just to name a few
![stick out tongue](http://images.killermovies.com/forums/smilies/cartoon/tongue.gif)
Eclipso
Thanks, I'll ask around. If you have any other advice for me at any point feel free. And be as blunt as need be, I can handle it.
DigiMark007
I'll co-sign most of Raven's comments. Also check the signature resources thread and find one of the render sites. All of your images seem fuzzy and/or slightly out of place. Some sharper renders would work wonders.
Also, less is more with text, almost always.
But a good start, and PS7 is near enough to top-of-the-line that you really shouldn't have to worry about getting a new program.
BakaXero
Originally posted by Eclipso
Photoshop 7
I know it's not the best to use, I'm going program shopping tommorow.
Photoshop 7 is a fine software to use, there's nothing wrong with it. I recommend doing a few tutorials and pick up techniques from those.
Photoshop is a powerful tool if you learn how to use it well.
Eclipso
Thanks guys, I take it from whats being said my main issue is text? People seem to like the backgrounds and all. Yeah I definitely need to sharpen them more, I was thinking that myself. I'm always scared of over sharpening and then they get speckled.
But thank you and I will do the tutorial and pick up some more techniques.
Thank you for being honest with me and I really appreciate it allot.
If anyone else has any comments I am open to them as well. It's the only way we learn after all.
Lana
I think you should leave off your 'tag' or whatever it is. It looks really bad and out of place on most of your sigs.
PS7 is only two versions behind the newest version of Photoshop, which is one of the most powerful programs there is and the industry standard in photo editing and manipulating; it's what I currently use since my laptop with PSCS2 on it is currently not really working right. It just takes time to learn. Check out some of the tutorial sites linked in the Resource thread.
Eclipso
I'm goona work on more today, If you happen to see one you think is good enough for a duel let me know cause those look fun.
Eclipso
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/2104/bloodcopyqy3.png
Eclipso
The next few sigs might not be that great I'm trying some new things. Let know what you think.
Eclipso
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/9843/galactusgi3.png
Eclipso
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/1279/ghostridervq8.png
Eclipso
I'm kinda learning the border thing, now I need advice on fonts and how to make them look cool.
Eclipso
http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/8227/untitled1copyry1.png
I fixed the border abit on my Galactus sig, just wondering if it looks better.
Eclipso
http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/1412/untitled2copycg7.png
boobsmagee
your new one looks like an improvment
![big grin](http://images.killermovies.com/forums/smilies/cartoon/biggrin.gif)
but u shuld work on blending, and blending modes on different layers, borders arnt th emsot inmportant, and your text is looking much better
Eclipso
Thank you very much for the tips, I like to hear from lots of people on them.
masterkit
Your Stuff Is Good
Also try using pictures that fit your background
![smile](http://images.killermovies.com/forums/smilies/cartoon/smile.gif)
Raven Guardia
your Carnage one and GhostRider one are a big improvment!
and I like the boarders on your Galactus sig and the one after it. Gives them more of a finshed look.
Eclipso
Originally posted by boobsmagee
u shuld work on blending, and blending modes on different layers,
This part intrigues me. Can you elaborate?
Eclipso
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/6767/eclipsozr6.png
Eclipso
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/8504/934125lrcopydp5.png
boobsmagee
nice lol, and when i say blending, aaah such as taking a render and duplicatiing it and pasting it all over the page then useing a brush to smudge it, then re adding the render to a portion and smuding setting different layer modes (usually under dialogs:layers, then u can figure it out from there) and etc. if u get what im saying lol
Eclipso
Originally posted by boobsmagee
nice lol, and when i say blending, aaah such as taking a render and duplicatiing it and pasting it all over the page then useing a brush to smudge it, then re adding the render to a portion and smuding setting different layer modes (usually under dialogs:layers, then u can figure it out from there) and etc. if u get what im saying lol
Kinda but I don't think I'm doing it right.
boobsmagee
here if u want me to lay out the complete basics:
make new document uh black or w/e color u want, file
![embarrasment](http://images.killermovies.com/forums/smilies/cartoon/redface.gif)
pen as layer open a render u want to use
then go to dialogs: layers
then go to duplicate layer a couple of times
then move each copy around the sig
then merge
get a brush and click on the smudge tool, smudge the pic around, then open as layer again aand re open the render
duplicate it a few times make only one visible smudge change layer mode , make next layer visible smudge or some effect, layer mode etc. set opacities, then one last open as layer and your done, that wasnt that great of an explanation but better than my last loland play around with the effects and all that lol
and i love your latest sig may i ask what thats a render of?
Eclipso
Which one do you mean? The Christmas Card I made and the one above it is Eclipso.
http://img279.imageshack.us/img279/7521/electroau6.png
boobsmagee
the one above the christmas card
Eclipso
That's Eclipso, it's a character in the DCU.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eclipso
Eclipso
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/2654/eclipso2iy7.png
Eclipso
http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/4592/eccopyom5.png
Still playing around with fonts and looks. So what do you guys think?
Eclipso
http://img332.imageshack.us/img332/2478/eclipsoocopynl4.png
Eclipso
http://img276.imageshack.us/img276/9596/untitled3cpyyn6.png
Eclipso
http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/3456/sephirothjpgcopyrg1.png
boobsmagee
well im not a great judge of sigs im fairly new too lol, but i can tell you your work is getting better, its your own personal descision when to start taking requests, i had only made a couple and began,
![big grin](http://images.killermovies.com/forums/smilies/cartoon/biggrin.gif)
i liek the thrill lol, but may i ask what u did to get that glowy outline on the text and renders?
also your last few look great
![big grin](http://images.killermovies.com/forums/smilies/cartoon/biggrin.gif)
loved what u did with sephiroth or w/e
my cousin is obsessed with ff7 lol
Raven Guardia
I think each one is getting better!
your using boarders and more font styles which is making them look better all the time
I really like the Draco one. I am a Draco/Slytherin fan
![stick out tongue](http://images.killermovies.com/forums/smilies/cartoon/tongue.gif)
Eclipso
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/7782/untitled2coyat3.png
Yeah, I'm a big Draco fan.
I'm glad you like them, I'll be taking requests soon. I just wanna make sure about them first. I'm the worst judge of my own work.
I'm much better at renderings.
Any ideas on non-comic book people to do sigs of would be appreciated.
Eclipso
Hey, if anyone is checking these out, can you find me a kick ass Gears of War pic? I started playing yesterday and I'm dying to make a sig.
boobsmagee
www.planetrenders.net i just started gow too lol, im stuck but bah, there are qutie a few gow renders there last time i checked
Eclipso
http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/9682/magnetofc8.png
Artemis1860
Originally posted by Eclipso
Hey, if anyone is checking these out, can you find me a kick ass Gears of War pic? I started playing yesterday and I'm dying to make a sig.
www.gamerenders.com
Should have some good ones, but often the best renders are in the forum, not the gallery, or so I've been told.
Rewmac
Sephiroth, Ghost Rider, Galactus and MAgneto ones are really good work. Try to do some blending, Soft brush eareser on 15% and brush the render you are using once...
cain marko
nimrod is your best
Eclipso
http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/7799/doctorwhoxw4.png
A tribute to a show that doesn't get anywhere near the amount of tribute it so richly deserves.
boobsmagee
lmfao that show isnt that good, i havnt seen much, but its something to pass time thats about it, alot of the acting is quite horrible, and who ever is directing it needs a better camera lol but tribute looks decent nice job
Eclipso
Originally posted by boobsmagee
lmfao that show isnt that good, i havnt seen much, but its something to pass time thats about it, alot of the acting is quite horrible, and who ever is directing it needs a better camera lol but tribute looks decent nice job
You should watch more of it, it's funny, creative and very wonky.
cain marko
Originally posted by boobsmagee
lmfao that show isnt that good, i havnt seen much, but its something to pass time thats about it, alot of the acting is quite horrible, and who ever is directing it needs a better camera lol but tribute looks decent nice job
harsh. i really like it. its a good update. and billie is teh sex
great sig eclipso, you seem to be getting good quick! however i think that your renders need a little more intergration, just to ad ore depth to the sigs thumbsup
DigiMark007
The Nimrod one is good.
At this point you have some basic skills and a good program (PS, right?). Start reading tutorials (links to good sites are in the resources thread) and pick and choose stuff from other peoples' sigs that you might want to try to emulate.
Usually, tuts and/or having a goal like that will get new and better results, even if it wasn't what you originally intended.
...so I won't tell you that your sigs are great yet, because they aren't. But you've shown improvement in a hurry, and that's always a good sign. And a lot of your recent ones are looking good, so that's always good to see.
Eclipso
It's also a style thing though, I've seen allot of sigs that look amazing it's just not my style. What I want to do is keep the "style" of my sigs and work on making them look better within that context.
You get what I mean?
DigiMark007
Absolutely. And it makes sense to want to stay with a particular style, if that's what you're comfortable with. But various things can be added or altered that don't change the overall idiom of the sig. Even techniques from tuts and such will help you do things that turn out totally different....and it doesn't have to change "you".
I'd say more, but I'm not professional enough to give exact advice on a lot of the sigs. But creativity, experimentation, and learning from others or from tuts will all help improve your form.
Eclipso
"tuts"?
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/8617/billybh0.png
I know the font needs work but I had to make this tribute.
cain marko
i think if you wanna stay with this sorta style then take a gander at pittmans sigs' i he does alot of sigs with text and/or visible renders. and what they all said tutorials.
Eclipso
Cool, I will take a look. What do you think of my Rose sig? Other then the font?
Eclipso
New one:
http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/7078/extantwaveriderwx9.png
boobsmagee
wow this one is great i think its your best yet, quite an improvement
![smile](http://images.killermovies.com/forums/smilies/cartoon/smile.gif)
DigiMark007
Originally posted by cain marko
i think if you wanna stay with this sorta style then take a gander at pittmans sigs
![thumb up](http://images.killermovies.com/forums/smilies/cartoon/thumbup.gif)
Eclipso
Originally posted by boobsmagee
wow this one is great i think its your best yet, quite an improvement
Thanks, originally I intended it to be of The Doctor and The Master, and I am going to make that one eventually.
But I looked up on Wiki and apprently these two are the closest thing the comics have to them so I used them.
Eclipso
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/5017/darkphoenixdj1.png
Raven Guardia
wow, your getting better all the time!
I really like the Dark Phoenix one
![eek!](http://images.killermovies.com/forums/smilies/cartoon/eek.gif)
Rewmac
Good work on the Dark Phoenix one...
juggernaut66666
I like the Phoenix one
![thumb up](http://images.killermovies.com/forums/smilies/cartoon/thumbup.gif)
Eclipso
http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/5713/novaaa4.png
Eclipso
http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/1446/ionzj4.png
I know everyone has done one but I couldn't help it.
Eclipso
Anyone have ideas for a cool character to do a sig of?
Eclipso
http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/9515/korvacat1.png
Eclipso
http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/4016/darkseidks7.png
Eclipso
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/5446/onslaughtxw3.png
Eclipso
http://img365.imageshack.us/img365/4558/onslaught1gr5.png
Better?
Eclipso
http://img457.imageshack.us/img457/4060/darkwillow1bmpcopyks4.png
boobsmagee
i remember the episode from like two years ago lol of buffy the vamp slayer, where willow was evil for a while but more powerful then ever
Eclipso
Originally posted by boobsmagee
i remember the episode from like two years ago lol of buffy the vamp slayer, where willow was evil for a while but more powerful then ever
But do you like the sig?
boobsmagee
yah forgot to say taht looks nice, but i think the render is a bit "pixelized" and maybe doesnt fit in as well, i liked how u made the text teh same color as her orb to kinda even out the feal bt id say it needs alittle work
Eclipso
cool I will work on it and repost it.
http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/5638/morbiusem1.png
Lana
Okie, I just have this to say about some of your sigs.
Lose the glow. It looks really bad and is simply a very amateurish way to hide poor blending.
Raven Guardia
Originally posted by Eclipso
http://img457.imageshack.us/img457/4060/darkwillow1bmpcopyks4.png
I the border on this one. I also like the background.
your sigs are improving. Try working renders in different areas of the sig. like maybe move one to the side and do something cool with it, perhaps some brushing techniques. Sometimes I keep my renders a little taller then the sig height that way it doesn't look squeezed in or to small. yours look fine in my opinion. just tossing out ideas
![stick out tongue](http://images.killermovies.com/forums/smilies/cartoon/tongue.gif)
juggernaut66666
Originally posted by Eclipso
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/5017/darkphoenixdj1.png
I like this one.
![thumb up](http://images.killermovies.com/forums/smilies/cartoon/thumbup.gif)
As for tutorials here you can find many http://www.royalgfx.com/
Eclipso
This is one of my fave movies from when I was a kid so I made a sig of it.
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/5543/nihmvd4.png
Eclipso
http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/1860/darwillow2cb2.png
Eclipso
http://img455.imageshack.us/img455/7543/venomcarnagegg5.png
Eclipso
http://img453.imageshack.us/img453/4629/sinistersixcg9.png
Eclipso
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/3383/summersbloodline1wj7.png
boobsmagee
nice but i still think if your gonna do what u r u shuld listen to them about checking out pittman, or else begint to blend some of these renders in, it really takes away most of the effect when there just slapped on to the top of a pic
Eclipso
I tried and it looked crappy. I guess I'm not doing it right.
Raven Guardia
Originally posted by Eclipso
I tried and it looked crappy. I guess I'm not doing it right.
I can give you a quick and easy blending tip if you would like. Very simple and easy
![smile](http://images.killermovies.com/forums/smilies/cartoon/smile.gif)
Eclipso
http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/6871/drfatenx9.png
Eclipso
http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/1874/marvelfamilyed7.png
Okay I tried something new...
Eclipso
http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/7751/dhamphirzf9.png
Raven Guardia
I love your last two! and your current. that Phoenix one is awesome!
Originally posted by Eclipso
sure
okay so you have PS7?
if so this should work.
1)go to your layers pallet.
2) duplicate your render 2 times, so that you have 3 layers of the render.
3) take the bottom render and set it to 'luminosity' and keep the 'opacity' at 100%
4) set the middle render to 'Normal' but 'opacity' at 60%
5) set the last render to 'screen' or 'overlay' and 'opacity' at 60%
I just would like to say sometimes 'screen' or 'overlay' doesn't look real nice, so thats when I play around with the other options to get the best over all look. Sometimes I even add a Fourth render layer and play around with that one as well.
Ichigo66666
Phoenix one is good, keep it up, download some brushes and such, try with the filters. Good work.
Is that you in your avvy RG?
Eclipso
http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/2889/subzerofy5.png
Rewmac
Originally posted by Eclipso
http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/2889/subzerofy5.png This one is nice. Very nice I like. But a border might work and it's little too bright otherwise it's cool.
Raven Guardia
Originally posted by Ichigo66666
Is that you in your avvy RG?
lol you bet!
![stick out tongue](http://images.killermovies.com/forums/smilies/cartoon/tongue.gif)
Eclipso
http://img286.imageshack.us/img286/7738/untitled1copycw4.png
Ichigo66666
Originally posted by Raven Guardia
lol you bet!
naughty
Seriously, your cute. blushing
Wow, I like your Sub Zero one, probably your best, download some brushes from deviantart!
Raven Guardia
Originally posted by Ichigo66666
naughty
Seriously, your cute. blushing
Wow, I like your Sub Zero one, probably your best, download some brushes from deviantart!
thanks
Originally posted by Eclipso
http://img286.imageshack.us/img286/7738/untitled1copycw4.png
This is great! your sigs keep getting better each time! keep up the great work
![smile](http://images.killermovies.com/forums/smilies/cartoon/smile.gif)
Eclipso
Thanks, let me know when you think I'm good enough to start taking requests and sig duels.
boobsmagee
if u want lol ( and hopefulyl not tooo soon) when u feal like doing your first sig duel ill do my first against ya
![wink](http://images.killermovies.com/forums/smilies/cartoon/wink.gif)
Eclipso
Cool, I'll let you know.
Eclipso
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/4299/scropionbc2.png
Stalker 360
there nice but seems you renders need blending a bit more try and keep it down to one render aswell if you want any tips advice or a general question answered pm me and ill give you a easier way to contact me. i feel the creativity is there it just needs to be expanded on with a little more skill
DigiMark007
Originally posted by Eclipso
http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/1874/marvelfamilyed7.png
Okay I tried something new...
Better. It's at least an attempt to blend. The pheonix one is better than most of your others too.
...the backgrounds fit thematically with the renders better than before. Text is still too large for the most part, and I'd advise a move toward subtlety in both text and in general. But there's definitely improvement.
...also, more images isn't always good. If they work well together, great. But sometimes they can clash and make it harder for you as a sig-maker to make it work in conjunction with everything else.
Eclipso
See this is what I was saying, That one was a departure from my style and more like Juggs or Rewmacs, It my least fave sig I've made. It's just not my style.
cain marko
hey although not my style the latter are good, an iprovement,
Eclipso
http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/268/reptilemg2.png
Eclipso
http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/1572/subzerocopyux7.png
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/9253/scropionmo9.png
cain marko
borders look better!
Eclipso
yeah and I added the MK insignia to the Sub-Zero one
I got tired of doing comic book sigs so I moved on to something new.
Kallark-Kent
Originally posted by Raven Guardia
thanks
This is great! your sigs keep getting better each time! keep up the great work
Meoooooow. naughty
I think the Scorpion one may be your best so far, or the Marvel Family one. Keep up the good work! (y)
quickshot
I like the whole MK collection pretty good sigs
Eclipso
Originally posted by Kallark-Kent
Meoooooow. naughty
I think the Scorpion one may be your best so far, or the Marvel Family one. Keep up the good work! (y)
But I don't like my Marvel Family one. laughing
But anyways. hug
Eclipso
http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/5420/ermaccr6.png
Eclipso
http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/3399/noobsmokehr9.png
Eclipso
http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/4081/rainqf5.png
Eclipso
http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/1174/akumaqh0.png
boobsmagee
wow akuma looks great nice job, your really improving
Eclipso
http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/7553/kenuk6.png
Can you guess who I'm going to do next? laughing
Rewmac
Ryu...And this sig is just cool...Keep this shit up man...Nice job.
Eclipso
http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/7659/ryuqn3.png
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/9004/mgcopy1zm0.png
http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/5156/mgcopy2vw9.png
Eclipso
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/405/ryucx8.png
quickshot
you're improving really fast Eclipso, great work.
Eclipso
http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/4408/hotrodul3.png
Eclipso
http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/7895/hotrodqu7.png
Eclipso
http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/8674/galvatronlo8.png
http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/614/galvatron1nn4.png
Eclipso
Is the top Galvatron one better then the bottom or worse?
Raven Guardia
Great stuff so far. I love your style, and your improving which is great!
Eclipso
http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q39/Eclips0/Raiden.jpg
Eclipso
http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q39/Eclips0/Seig.jpg
Eclipso
http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/319/victorta2.png
boobsmagee
did ya get my pm?
boobsmagee
sorry for double post your latest works been aight but try mixing up some backround styles ill admit it looked cool, but on some of your recent ones im not liking the whole effect you do to your sigs
and nvm that pm thing i cant duel this weekend so stupid i have to leave tomorrow night for my freeking gp i hate my life
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Eclipso
It's just my style, I like, juggernauts and Rewmac's stuff but their style just isn't mine.
quickshot
Hey Eclipso want a duel?
boobsmagee
oh and i believe i actually can duel also i just found out i dont have to go
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Eclipso
Ill try to free up some time next week to duel both of you, I'll PM you guys when I've got my schedule worked out.
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