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Daredevil VS Captain America VS Kingpin VS Elektra VS Wolverine

Each team gets 10 minutes in there house/base to gather one weapon each, no guns or long range weapons.

All Classic versions, no Healing Factor or Adamantium Skeleton for Wolverine.

The Fight Takes Place In An Empty Wrestling Arena, Everything in there no civillians.

They Start at opposite ends of the arena. No Outside Help.

Who Takes This? Knockout Is for a win.

Daredevil.

Captain America.

Wolverine pops his claws out and keels over in agony. Then cap takes it just from being the only one who can really endure and sustain for a long time, plus that shield

BUMP!

Well its between Wolverine and Cap. Im going for Cap because since its not one and one he can use startegy to win.

Either Daredevil or Cap. Cap really has the endurance to keep going but with enemies like Kingpin and Elektra who have alot of respect for Daredevil they're not going to go after him first. They'll want to clear the field and save him for last. Logan and Cap get assailed and Daredevil is left to play clean up. Think DD wins

Originally posted by marvelprince
Either Daredevil or Cap. Cap really has the endurance to keep going but with enemies like Kingpin and Elektra who have alot of respect for Daredevil they're not going to go after him first. They'll want to clear the field and save him for last. Logan and Cap get assailed and Daredevil is left to play clean up. Think DD wins

What so the next best option is Captain America the super soldier and a mutant with a healing factor and adamantuim claws?

Or Elektra and Kingpin may decide to stick with DD because they know him already. Cap has beaten up DD before, im not sure if either of them will know that. (Probably not).

I'd go for Wolverine for a slight majority. He's got the whole ninja/samurai thing down, so he'd probably go for a sword in this fight. That puts him at an advantage over the other, methinks.

Wolverine 6/10.
Cap 3/10.
DD 1/10.

Originally posted by Alfheim
What so the next best option is Captain America the super soldier and a mutant with a healing factor and adamantuim claws?

No healing factor or adamantium for Wolverine in this fight

Originally posted by H. S. 6
I'd go for Wolverine for a slight majority. He's got the whole ninja/samurai thing down, so he'd probably go for a sword in this fight. That puts him at an advantage over the other, methinks.

Wolverine 6/10.
Cap 3/10.
DD 1/10.

Elektra and him where going back and forth with his healing factor and claws, which he doesn't have here. He's not hanging with Elektra in this scenario even if he gets a sword. Elektra, Kingpin and Daredevil are most likely gonna team up in this scenario anyway so Cap and Wolverine will be on edge. The way I see it

Daredevil has his billy clubs, Wolverine takes his sword (murasame), Cap has his sheild, Elektra has her sai, Kingpin goes barehanded. Pairings (based on characters interaction, past alliances etc):

DD and Elektra take on Wolverine
Daredevil and Elektra win

Cap takes on Kingpin
Cap wins

Daredevil and Elektra takes on Cap
Daredevil and Elektra wins

DD vs Elektra
Daredevil wins

Originally posted by marvelprince
Either Daredevil or Cap. Cap really has the endurance to keep going but with enemies like Kingpin and Elektra who have alot of respect for Daredevil they're not going to go after him first. They'll want to clear the field and save him for last. Logan and Cap get assailed and Daredevil is left to play clean up. Think DD wins

Originally posted by marvelprince

DD and Elektra take on Wolverine
Daredevil and Elektra win

Cap takes on Kingpin
Cap wins

Daredevil and Elektra takes on Cap
Daredevil and Elektra wins

DD vs Elektra
Daredevil wins

I could see it going down like that, however, I thought the purpose of the thread was to pit them 1 vs 1 vs 1 vs 1 vs 1. In which case, Cap would take the majority.

If they WERE allowed/inclined to make and break alliances, though, Daredevil would be the last one standing.

Originally posted by marvelprince
No healing factor or adamantium for Wolverine in this fight



Elektra and him where going back and forth with his healing factor and claws, which he doesn't have here. He's not hanging with Elektra in this scenario even if he gets a sword. Elektra, Kingpin and Daredevil are most likely gonna team up in this scenario anyway so Cap and Wolverine will be on edge. The way I see it

Daredevil has his billy clubs, Wolverine takes his sword (murasame), Cap has his sheild, Elektra has her sai, Kingpin goes barehanded. Pairings (based on characters interaction, past alliances etc):

DD and Elektra take on Wolverine
Daredevil and Elektra win

Cap takes on Kingpin
Cap wins

Daredevil and Elektra takes on Cap
Daredevil and Elektra wins

DD vs Elektra
Daredevil wins

I'm pretty sure Cap wouldn't get his shield, as there are no long range weapons allowed, and he's consistently throwing it around.

Originally posted by H. S. 6
I'm pretty sure Cap wouldn't get his shield, as there are no long range weapons allowed, and he's consistently throwing it around.

A shield isn't a long range weapon, no matter how you use it. Same with billy clubs.

I'm pretty sure the intention of the original poster was to stop anyone from getting any kind of futuristic weaponry (The Kingpin especially), and make this a primarily melee battle.

Originally posted by Soljer
A shield isn't a long range weapon, no matter how you use it. Same with billy clubs.

I'm pretty sure the intention of the original poster was to stop anyone from getting any kind of futuristic weaponry (The Kingpin especially), and make this a primarily melee battle. ah but loophole, it's a shield not a weapon

plus...Elektra, DD, and Wolvie could all probably throw the weapons they have

Originally posted by Soljer
Indeed.

A knife is a melee weapon, as is a sword and a club.

Doesn't mean you can't throw them.

that bieng said, cap probably takes the maj, if there are no teamups and such

I think daredevil wins this. At the minimum, he could take a majority over everyone here (seeing that wolverine has no HF), cap being his biggest threat

Hes given kingpin the beating of his life before anyways.


Im thinking Daredevil wins.

This can go many ways, but i do see DD taking it as well. Caps shield has been mentioned, but i believe as soon as that shield gets thrown, Cap will NEVER see it again in this fight. Kingpin is being a bit underrated imo. He beat Cap in h2h combat already and if not jobbing, can put up a decent fight against a couple others as well. Wolvie not having a healing factor OR Adamantium is greatly limiting him. Id at least give him the Adamantium to grant him that extra durability. Either way, imo hes not as skilled as Daredevil or Elektra(or at least hasnt shown to be consistantly) so hed struggle quite a bit. DD for the win.

EDIT

Originally posted by jrodslam
This can go many ways, but i do see DD taking it as well. Caps shield has been mentioned, but i believe as soon as that shield gets thrown, Cap will NEVER see it again in this fight. Kingpin is being a bit underrated imo. He beat Cap in h2h combat already and if not jobbing, can put up a decent fight against a couple others as well. Wolvie not having a healing factor OR Adamantium is greatly limiting him. Id at least give him the Adamantium to grant him that extra durability. Either way, imo hes not as skilled as Daredevil or Elektra(or at least hasnt shown to be consistantly) so hed struggle quite a bit. DD for the win.


True, i think elektra might go out before kingpin does

It comes down between Cap, Wolverine and Elektra. The chances of either of those three winning is about the same.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Kingpin is being a bit underrated imo. He beat Cap in h2h combat already and if not jobbing, can put up a decent fight against a couple others as well.

If the KINGPIN isn't jobbing? Are you serious?

The only way that Fisk ever does well against the likes of Captain America, Daredevil, or Spiderman is when THEY job like crazy. He is damn near untrained, and isn't even peak human. In a forum scenario, the Kingpin gets shit-stomped by anyone else in this thread.

Originally posted by Soljer
A shield isn't a long range weapon, no matter how you use it. Same with billy clubs.

I'm pretty sure the intention of the original poster was to stop anyone from getting any kind of futuristic weaponry (The Kingpin especially), and make this a primarily melee battle.

I interpreted the thread as more of a brawl with weapons, but if the shield is allowed, then Cap takes a clean majority 7/10.

Originally posted by Soljer
If the KINGPIN isn't jobbing? Are you serious?

The only way that Fisk ever does well against the likes of Captain America, Daredevil, or Spiderman is when THEY job like crazy. He is damn near untrained, and isn't even peak human. In a forum scenario, the Kingpin gets shit-stomped by anyone else in this thread.

Kingpin untrained? Obviously you dont know much of what youre talking aobut. Kingpin is trained indeed. Hes also pretty agile. Much more agile than a man his size should be.

Kingpin isnt even peak human? Again youre incorrect.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Kingpin untrained? Obviously you dont know much of what youre talking aobut. Kingpin is trained indeed. Hes also pretty agile. Much more agile than a man his size should be.

Kingpin isnt even peak human? Again youre incorrect.

A little bit of proof, please? He is more agile than a man his size SHOULD be, yeah. But he doesn't have peak human agility.

He is trained indeed? Compared to the likes of Daredevil, Cap, Elektra, or Wolverine? No. He's a toddler compared to these guys.

He's peak human? No. He MAY have peak human strength, but that would be the only attribute he could claim.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
It comes down between Cap, Wolverine and Elektra. The chances of either of those three winning is about the same. meh, i would give DD more of a chance then Elektra, and Wolvie not much of a chance.....

and IMHO Cap>DD at least for the maj.

Originally posted by Soljer
Don't put Wolverine down so quickly. He is an incredibly skilled fighter, only to be matched by the likes of those in this thread. He also has the option of having multiple weapons (a sword as well as his claws - which he CAN pop without suffering massive bloodloss - look at the times he's been depowered). He's also the only one in this thread to have truly enhanced physical attributes, everyone else is peak human at best. I'd give him good odds against Daredevil, Kingpin and Elektra, but I can't really see a powerless Wolverine match tic for tac with Captain America.

Maybe it's just me. he's been completely depowered and popped his claws? i wanna see scans

i only said he wouldn't have a great chance because the people in this thread could probably put him down easyer then they could put each other down, i'm not underestimating or putting him down.

Originally posted by Soljer
I don't have scans on me, but I've seen many a time where he's fought with his claws while depowered.

Also, without his adamantium skeleton, Wolverine will be even faster than he normally is, which is frightening considering even his normal speed feats outstrip most of everyone elses in this thread.

Not to mention that his skills are on par with, or greater than, anyone elses here. He is (in my opinion, I promise that others will disagree) slightly less skilled than Captain America, but more skilled than Daredevil or Elektra. And leaps and bounds over the Kingpin.

I could earnestly see Wolverine coming in second, here.

Insane speed coupled with enhanced physical attributes and fairly high skill? Even if he can't pop his claws for additional weapons, he will still be one of the top fighters in the thread.
i'll take your word for it.

and i guess since we know the winner, we're debating for second? lol

i think DD (with his radar sense and slight training) could avoid and detain Wolvie, but idk, maybe cus i don't read much wolverine (or xmen in general). and if DD and E team up, Wolvie might go down anyway...it all depends on the actual fight, but IMO it's go

Cap
Daredevil/Wolvie
Elektra
KP

Id have to go with The Kingpin. I believe reading awhile back that he almost crushed Cap with a bear hug? Forgive me if I am wrong. Also he has held his own against DD.

I go with Kingpin. He's smart and has the strength. Dont mess with his pimp stick.

Originally posted by supervenom
Id have to go with The Kingpin. I believe reading awhile back that he almost crushed Cap with a bear hug? Forgive me if I am wrong. Also he has held his own against DD.

I go with Kingpin. He's smart and has the strength. Dont mess with his pimp stick. i don't tihnk me or anyone else really see him winning

Originally posted by Soljer
A little bit of proof, please? He is more agile than a man his size SHOULD be, yeah. But he doesn't have peak human agility.

He is trained indeed? Compared to the likes of Daredevil, Cap, Elektra, or Wolverine? No. He's a toddler compared to these guys.

He's peak human? No. He MAY have peak human strength, but that would be the only attribute he could claim.
Kingpin is surprisingly well trained. IIRC, even as a kid, he once beat up a gang of kids using a surprising amount of skill (at least that's how I recall it). Add in his great strength and the guy's a beast.

The guy's clearly capable of giving a good fight to the likes of Daredevil and other street-levelers and even taking in some wins for himself..

Originally posted by Soljer
A little bit of proof, please? He is more agile than a man his size SHOULD be, yeah. But he doesn't have peak human agility.

He is trained indeed? Compared to the likes of Daredevil, Cap, Elektra, or Wolverine? No. He's a toddler compared to these guys.

He's peak human? No. He MAY have peak human strength, but that would be the only attribute he could claim.

Proof? Id have to go through the comics for that. Scondly, Kingpin doesnt have to be peak human in agility. He takes many hits as it is. He also fast enough to connect with his own hits. His agility doesnt have to be peak to conted at all here. I dont even know why its even brought up.

Kingpin is trained enough. YOU call him "damn near untrained". Hes skilled enough to compete with those who are highly trained than him. Captain America isnt as trained/skilled as Daredevil or Elektra, yet hes an excellent fighter. Same goes for Fisk. Toddler compared to Captain America and Wolverine in terms of what? What you say doesnt coincide with whats shown.

Hes peak human in strength as well as durability. Thats quite enough to put up good fights against Cap, Wolvie and Elektra. Hell, he almost killed Cap with a damn bearhug.

Originally posted by supervenom
Nothing beats pure muscle


Strongest Man In The World <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Average guy with a machine gun

Originally posted by Soljer
I don't have scans on me, but I've seen many a time where he's fought with his claws while depowered.

He can, but him not having a healing factor may cause him to bleed much thus weakening him.

Originally posted by Soljer
Not to mention that his skills are on par with, or greater than, anyone elses here. He is (in my opinion, I promise that others will disagree) slightly less skilled than Captain America, but more skilled than Daredevil or Elektra. And leaps and bounds over the Kingpin.

Skills are on par or greater than anyone else here? All this has been shown when? Id say hes shown to have greater skills than Kingpin, but thats not saying much. I wouldnt go as far and say his skills are on par with DD, Cap or Elektra. You say Wolvies skills are on par with Capbut better than DD's or Elektra's? DD shows much more skill than Cap or Elektra easily.

Originally posted by Soljer
I could earnestly see Wolverine coming in second, here.

Insane speed coupled with enhanced physical attributes and fairly high skill? Even if he can't pop his claws for additional weapons, he will still be one of the top fighters in the thread.

You have your opinion and i respect it. Id just like to say that although hes fast, i dont think hed be fast to the point where DD and the others would have hard times hitting or dodging him.

Originally posted by Accel
Kingpin is surprisingly well trained. IIRC, even as a kid, he once beat up a gang of kids using a surprising amount of skill (at least that's how I recall it). Add in his great strength and the guy's a beast.

The guy's clearly capable of giving a good fight to the likes of Daredevil and other street-levelers and even taking in some wins for himself..

some wins aren't exactly winning.....but i guess you're not

i still stick with my original "Cap for the maj." opinion

Cap being one of the first to go down in 1v1? I highly doubt that. In that boxing match he and DD had (though DD was drugged up, or mind controlled), Cap owned him. Besides, Cap's stronger and doesn't tire. At the end of Born Again, DD basically marvelled at Cap's speed/fitness.

Originally posted by The Fake Macoy
Cap being one of the first to go down in 1v1? I highly doubt that. In that boxing match he and DD had (though DD was drugged up, or mind controlled), Cap owned him. Besides, Cap's stronger and doesn't tire. At the end of Born Again, DD basically marvelled at Cap's speed/fitness.

Cap can go down 1v1? Why not? what boxing match are you talking about? The one that was suppose to be an exhibition? If so, youre inaccurate about Cap owning DD. True he wasnt in his right mind, but the fight still ended in a stalemate. The one time he did, DD was fatigued from fighting in hell, so that hardly holds any weight. In the "Born Again" arc, DD did mention Caps running speed was faster than his. Wouldnt call it marvelling however.

Kingpin and then Cap.

Originally posted by Pyron_Knight
Kingpin and then Cap.


I'd say Captain America or Wolverine. Wolverine has had more time to learn than Electra and Daredevil, and he slices Kingpin up with whatever weapon he chooses despite Kingpin's freakish strength. Cap with his sheild takes out Wolverine with a simple steel weapon. Can Wolverine grab an adamantium weapon?

They face off all at the same time right??
So since they all are pretty well trained, won't the one who play's it smart win?

Heck they could all win.

Classic Kingpin FTW.

This guy used to be stronger than Spider-Man back in the days.
He could easily break away from Spidey's webbings, and extremely fast for a guy his size.
He bulldozes the other four with ease.

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
Classic Kingpin FTW.

This guy used to be stronger than Spider-Man back in the days.
He could easily break away from Spidey's webbings, and extremely fast for a guy his size.
He bulldozes the other four with ease.


It's not just hand to hand though, and you combine the fact that all these guys are faster, and things don't look too hot for Kingpin, especially against Logan.

Also wouldn't kingpin be the most hated guy in the ring???
Wouldn't that mean that some might team up on him???

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Or Elektra and Kingpin may decide to stick with DD because they know him already. Cap has beaten up DD before, im not sure if either of them will know that. (Probably not).
good responses. I think I agree with this.

Daredevil or Cap. But I think Cap has the edge

Captain America wins.

Not sure who wins but it sure as hell won't be Kingpin. Cap has his insane stamina which gives him an excellent edge over the rest though.

Why not Kingpin? He's not the fastest or most skilled here but I'd say he's the strongest and with his decent level of speed and skill, that could help him pull it off.

Originally posted by Pyron_Knight
Why not Kingpin? He's not the fastest or most skilled here but I'd say he's the strongest and with his decent level of speed and skill, that could help him pull it off.

That's just it though. He is much slower than the rest, much less skilled. Strongest? Daredevil peak human, Cap the ultimate 'peak' human , Wolverine low superhuman. Current Kingpin is at the very most peak human, maybe not even that.

Whether you think of it as the same Kingpin or not, Fisk has wins over Captain America and Red Skull in a cloned Cap body.
For a strength comparison, Daredevil once nearly ripped out his arms struggling to opena vault door just a tad. Fisk threw the thing wide open with one arm effortlessly.

He also owned the Ox, one of the strongest street-levelers in Marvel

I'd say he's at least twice Matt's strength and a bit above Cap myself.

Was that classic Kingpin?

Stuff with Cap is Classic Kingpin.
The owning of the Enforcers (the team Ox was on) was pretty recent, though IIRC.

Even if he still has his classic strength (which I'm apprehensive to concede ), he still lacks the immense skill and also the speed of the others.DD and Elektra blocking gunfire, Logan and his plethora of speed feats as well as Cap and his. Any of the others would KO him relatively quickly in my opinion.

ps people seem to be underplaying Logan in this. He is a fellow top tier, would probably have a sword and superhuman stats.

The winners will probably be between Wolverine or Cap.

Originally posted by Kallark-Kent
Daredevil VS Captain America VS Kingpin VS Elektra VS Wolverine

Each team gets 10 minutes in there house/base to gather one weapon each, no guns or long range weapons.

All Classic versions, no Healing Factor or Adamantium Skeleton for Wolverine.

The Fight Takes Place In An Empty Wrestling Arena, Everything in there no civillians.

They Start at opposite ends of the arena. No Outside Help.

Who Takes This? Knockout Is for a win.

Wow....That seems fair, why don't we take Cap's serum away, now he's normal too. While we are at it let's take away DD's super senses and now he's a cripple. How douchey is that? And then, as soon as we take everything from Wolverine, we automatically assume he is going to lose. Can we not forget he has about 150 years more fighting experience than these guys and has mastered virtually every fighting style on Earth? I don't think he would necessarily win everytime but I wouldn't rule him out automatically either. i say it's probably going to be Wolverine, Cap, or DD.

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