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No hold barred matchup set in the wilderness.

Everyones knows Magnetos capabilities, heres a link to XMS' Meggan respect thread: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/434907_1-meggan-respect-thread

Who wins?

Why?

Seems kind of like a quick-draw scenario to me.

Maybe X will come in and change my mind.

hmm

I was considering of doing this.

I'll just point out a few things.

1) She has mild superspeed.
2) She can assume forms that he cannot manipulate for the usual quickdraw wins like a blood pull.
3) She also can control electromagnetic forces and as a shapeshifter controls her body's structure which may also negate any quickdraw wins.
4) She can dispel electromagnetic forcefields.
5) She can literally turn off people.

But meh. I don't really mind if either wins.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
hmm

I was considering of doing this.

I'll just point out a few things.

1) She has mild superspeed.
2) She can assume forms that he cannot manipulate for the usual quickdraw wins like a blood pull.
3) She also can control electromagnetic forces and as a shapeshifter controls her body's structure which may also negate any quickdraw wins.
4) She can dispel electromagnetic forcefields.
5) She can literally turn off people.

But meh. I don't really mind if either wins.

I'm aware of all this. I'm still thinking it comes down to a quick-draw match. Whoever can get the first shot off, could likely win.

Well batdude has a scan of Magneto's brain working something like 14-15x normal human, while Meggan has mild superspeed and corresponding reflexes. So who gets off the first shot. Iunno.

I'm thinking more or less a stalemate.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Well batdude has a scan of Magneto's brain working something like 14-15x normal human, while Meggan has mild superspeed and corresponding reflexes. So who gets off the first shot. Iunno.

That's exactly what I was thinking. 1450% normal cognition vs. mild superspeed.

That's why I wasn't entirely sure who would win said quick draw.

If I were sure, I likely would have stated my opinion in my first post, .

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
No hold barred matchup set in the wilderness.

Everyones knows Magnetos capabilities, heres a link to XMS' Meggan respect thread: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/434907_1-meggan-respect-thread

Who wins?

Why?

Draw

draw or slight edge to magneto

This is silly. Meggan is not strong enough in any aspect of her elemental powers to beat Magneto. Its really suicide for Meggan to be challenging people like Storm or Magneto. Want a good fight? Pit Meggan against Crystal. There is a good one. Storm and Magneto are just too powerful.

Originally posted by Rutog98
This is silly. Meggan is not strong enough in any aspect of her elemental powers to beat Magneto. Its really suicide for Meggan to be challenging people like Storm or Magneto. Want a good fight? Pit Meggan against Crystal. There is a good one. Storm and Magneto are just too powerful.



Who is stupid enough to even mention Storm and Magneto in the same sentence? Magneto is so far out of Storm's league that it isn't even funny.

Magneto and Meggan is a good fight. Either of them against Storm? *laughs* Curbstomp in their favor.

Storm can own Mags. It's already been established that winds tax his powers and she can call them up before he can even react, thus suffocating him.

The iron in blood won't work since Storm regulary channels earth's greatest display of electrmagnetic energy ala Lightning through her body. She can cause electrons to flow(move) with her mind thus creating an electromagnetic feild. It's also everpresent in her body.

It would be a FIGHT!!!!

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Storm can own Mags. It's already been established that winds tax his powers and she can call them up before he can even react, thus suffocating him.

The iron in blood won't work since Storm regulary channels earth's greatest display of electrmagnetic energy ala Lightning through her body. She can cause electrons to flow(move) with her mind thus creating an electromagnetic feild. It's also everpresent in her body.

It would be a FIGHT!!!!


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Magneto beats the shit out of Storm twenty two times out of four. He seriously is just quite a few steps out of her league. Quite a few.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Storm can own Mags. It's already been established that winds tax his powers and she can call them up before he can even react, thus suffocating him.

The iron in blood won't work since Storm regulary channels earth's greatest display of electrmagnetic energy ala Lightning through her body. She can cause electrons to flow(move) with her mind thus creating an electromagnetic feild. It's also everpresent in her body.

It would be a FIGHT!!!! Wheres that scan stating Magneto's reactions are 15 times that of others?

Originally posted by Brian Oswald
Wheres that scan stating Magneto's reactions are 15 times that of others?

Don't overrate magneto. That's what makes a fanboy.

It's only fourteen point five times, .

She still was able to drop that Torando on his ass even with all that 14...15 bullshit.


"omg, I can't breath, I can't breath"

Colossus was the "plot device"

He LOSES.

Errmmm....

Go read the forum rules. Combatants fight to the best of their ability. That means no PIS win for Storm on the forums. Good try, though.

PIS is in the eye of the beholder.

Mags hemoglobin munipulations are PIS with regards to Storm since she channels Lightning through her body, a form of electromagnetic energy.

Another PIS(IMO) is her hiting him with lightning and it strenghthening him. The lighting's heat should desintegrate him or at best demagnetize him. Heat destroys magnetism.

Her powers worked faster than his in that instance, "PIS" or not.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
PIS is in the eye of the beholder.

Mags hemoglobin munipulations are PIS with regards to Storm since she channels Lightning through her body, a form of electromagnetic energy.

Another PIS(IMO) is her hiting him with lightning and it strenghthening him. The lighting's heat should desintegrate him or at best demagnetize him. Heat destroys magnetism.

Her powers worked faster than his in that instance, "PIS" or not.

But....electrons certainly don't downgrade magnetism.

Magneto's brain processes and manipulates data fourteen times faster than Storm. His powers also function faster. His powers also pack a LOT more punch than Storm could ever HOPE to generate.

Magneto is simply many levels superior to Storm in every single possible regard.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
PIS is in the eye of the beholder.

Mags hemoglobin munipulations are PIS with regards to Storm since she channels Lightning through her body, a form of electromagnetic energy.

Another PIS(IMO) is her hiting him with lightning and it strenghthening him. The lighting's heat should desintegrate him or at best demagnetize him. Heat destroys magnetism.

Her powers worked faster than his in that instance, "PIS" or not.



I love it when Storm fanboys actually try to make logical sense of Storm being able to COMPETE (much less "beat" Magneto. The twisted twaddle that's uttered from their mouths is nothing short of hilarious. It seems that the irrational crap they spout is a common characteristic that they all share.

No, Storm can NEVER beat Magneto. EVER. Get that thought out of your fanboy heads.

Storm's weather manipulating abilities have absolutely NO bearing on the fact that Magneto can control the metallic particles in her blood. It's complete bullshit to say otherwise. He HAS done it to her before as well.

Not to mention how unreservedly EASY it is for Magneto to accomplish this feat.

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/940/magripsapartneo7do.jpg

Did you happen to catch that? "With something less than a furrowed brow, he uses a fraction of a fraction of his mutant power to tear apart his would-be assailants."

And that would be accomplished before Storm could do anything, because as stated before, his reflexes are 14.5x greater than hers.

And as for your "Magneto shouldn't be able to absorb lightning" drivel, all I have to say is.... are you freakin' kidding me??!! Magneto controls the ELECTROmagnetic spectrum. I think it's time to learn (if not from a teacher of basic chemistry, then from me) that magnetism and electricity are related. Magneto can manipulate electric fields and currents as easily as he can metal. And not only that, the energy that is emitted by electricity can be absorbed by him, to power himself up. A scan can demonstrate what I'm talking about. He has better control over lightning than even she does.

http://img198.imageshack.us/my.php?image=magbettercontroloflightingthen.jpg

And I think it's also imperative for you to know that temperature of lightning doesn't effect people who are struck by it. It's the amps and watts that get ya.... but Magneto is immune to these effects.

And if you honestly think Storm's measly little hurricane winds can break through Magneto's shields...

http://img198.imageshack.us/my.php?image=magfiresstonesshield7jj.jpg
http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/1623/magshieldeasilydeflectscapt0fq.jpg
http://img371.imageshack.us/my.php?image=magtakesphoenixblast7nn.jpg
http://img484.imageshack.us/img484/3455/magtakesamegatonbomb9cn.jpg

... then you're delusional.

Shit, Magneto could just give her one good blast.... and with his superior reaction speeds, he'd be the first one to strike.

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/2273/magblastblowsthroughmountainwi.jpg

And as for this particular thread, I'm not so sure.

add on those scans of Magneto taking multiple nukes to the face(without shields) while exerting tons of energy, I forget exactly what he was doing

All that shit still doesn't change the fact that Mags needed a Primatene Mist.

Physics also say that heat destroys magnetism.

Logic also says that of a woman can create, channel, disperse, and redirect one of the greatest diplays of atmospheric electromagnetism through her BODY, then Magneto cannot munipulate her hemoglobin. Magenetism is created by Electricity(Eectrons in motion) I don't know about those other people.

Also, the higher the temperature, the WEAKER mags will get. Storm controls temp.

Why is meggan fighting everyone?

Magento for the win

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Also, the higher the temperature, the WEAKER mags will get. Storm controls temp.

And Magneto has inhibited Storm's mutant powers with a wave of his hand.

And he could rip her to pieces with a mere thought.

A thought that will be formed nearly fifteen times faster than Storm can even blink.

Originally posted by Soljer
And Magneto has inhibited Storm's mutant powers with a wave of his hand.

And he could rip her to pieces with a mere thought.

A thought that will be formed nearly fifteen times faster than Storm can even blink.

The issue said 15 percent faster than normal human, right? 15% does not equal 15 times. Besides, there is still time that has to be included for his body to tap into the field and build up the power. Also, Storm has much more electricity running through her body than he does. Hence, she can make her mind immune to telepathic assaults.

Looking at these facts, I am not so convinced that Magneto can work his powers faster than Ororo as she can look at other characters as patterns of energy and forces and see their electrons travelling through their body and react accordingly. This gives her an edge in fights. This was all stated in X-treme. In other words, she would have to have faster reaction time and though etc than others as well. Considering that she has much more electrical energy in her body than he, I would imagine she is probably faster.

As far as MAgneto inhibiting her powers, he did that by grabbing the iron in her blood while she was trying to talk reason to him. It was not in the middle of a fight. Also, considering the massive amounts of energy that courses through her body which can potentially (if she wills it so) stop telepathy cold, I'm not so sure Magneto could grab the iron in her blood. Electricity can uppercut magnetism. Magneto's powers are only a product of electricity, a force under her control. Yes, he can control it as well but nowhere near the degree she can.

Problem is, I have a lot of trouble giving Magneto any credence nowadays. The 90s have devalued him. They constantly write down powerful characters like Storm and Apacolypse whenever MAgneto shows up. In Fatal Attractions, how did he sneak up on the X-Men while heaving that his base through the atmosphere and Ororo not sense it? The lady can feel people moving around her. She can even sense the sickness in plants and the life force within living creatures/beings. This is a lady who can feel even the smallest of objects moving through the air and has tracked down other characters by sensing the energy they use when they fly through the air. This was a massive object being moved by magnetism. It was so big that it was causing atospheric disturbances. They wrote STorm down. Also, if Magneto is as powerful as you say he is, why aren't they giving ORoro's winds the credit to level mountains or lift sky scrapers or being able to punch objects to mountains of rock and ice or creating pressure fields greater than the surface of Jupiter or enough power to alter weather over a continent or hemisphere any of these things in MAgneto stories? I'll tell you why. Magneto is not on these power levels himself and they are unrealistically trying to have him battle Storm with a bunch of other characters at once. Its silly. When Magneto can cause a global EMP without any outside enhancements and without the EM fields being unnaturally warped or otherwise placed in an unnatural condition, then I would agree that he is at least a potential rival for Storm. Really, though, he would have to do even better than this as her powers really outdoes his. For instance, if a guy can cause a blackout over a continent, that's powerful and all, but somebody who can alter weather over that much eco-system is much worse as its much more destructive and everything. MAgneto has not even shown that he can cause a continental blackout purely on his own merits while STorm has done this on more than one occassion and has surpassed it by a huge margin. This means she can access much more energy and power than MAgneto. So she can toss more at him than he can at her.

In regards to Mags vs. Poccy, Poccy has atomic control over his body, a near indestructable body and rechannelling abilities. All of this was ignored so Magneto could beat him and prove he was the X-Men's most powerful villain. Sorry guys, but when so much is ignored about other powerful characters when Magneto shows up, it really calls into question his credibility and also the credibility of the stunts he's pulling. For instance, I am not really sold that he should be able to latch onto the iron in Ororo's bloodstream with all of that electrical power running through her.

1) ~ %1500.
2) She has to consciously shift her perceptions to see things as energy.
3) More electricity running through her body? Is she constantly having a spastic seizure?
4) She cannot make herself immune to telepathic assaults, she is resistant to telepathic mind control. She isn't Plastic Man. She isn't Wonder Woman.

5) Off-topic.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
All that shit still doesn't change the fact that Mags needed a Primatene Mist.

What you don't seem to realize is that he did not have his shields up during their little encounter, and he had the rest of the X-Men line up to worry about. Do you honestly think Magneto is just going to stand there and take a hurricane to the face? When his reflexes/reaction speeds are 15x that of hers? Reflexes that are good enough for him to catch a speedblitzing Northstar right out of the sky?

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c365/A_Flight4/X-Men113-04.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c365/A_Flight4/X-Men113-05.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c365/A_Flight4/X-Men113-11.jpg

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight...

Not to mention he's taken multiple nukes to the face w/o a shield and didn't have a scratch on him...

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Physics also say that heat destroys magnetism.

And what did I tell you before? Magneto is NOT a magnet. He controls the electromagnetic spectrum...... and electricity IS electromagnetic energy. Not to mention lightning's heat acts in a very different manner than a fire's heat does.

Interesting little tidbit here..... with his powers, Magneto can create nuclear fusion to bind metallic particles.

http://img65.imageshack.us/my.php?image=secretwars00413fg2.jpg

I say this is interesting because in order for the particles to overcome the electrostatic repulsions of the nucleus and therefore fuse, the temperature has to be around 40000000 degrees K.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Logic also says that of a woman can create, channel, disperse, and redirect one of the greatest diplays of atmospheric electromagnetism through her BODY, then Magneto cannot munipulate her hemoglobin. Magenetism is created by Electricity(Eectrons in motion) I don't know about those other people.

I'm not seeing your point here at all considering this would only prove to somebody that she is immune to the effects of the amps and watts of her lightning. Again, this has absolutely no bearing on the fact that Magneto could and would manipulate the iron in her blood if they were to ever fight at full, bloodlusted potential. Not only that, but when Magneto actually DID disperse and rechannel her lightning through her body (apparently he has better control over her own lightning than even she does) it hurt her tremendously.

http://img198.imageshack.us/my.php?image=magbettercontroloflightingthen.jpg

And not only has he done that to her before, but he also actually HAS taken control over the iron in her blood.

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/7479/magholdseveryxmeninplacvw9.jpg

Making your argument completely moot.

And he still could just blast her to death.... and with his faster reaction times, you bet your ass he'd get the first shot off.

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/2273/magblastblowsthroughmountainwi.jpg

So, I suggest reading up on Magneto, seeing as how you have limited knowledge on him.

The scan didn't say fifteen percent, storm fanboy.

It said one thousand four hundred fifty percent. 1450%. 14.5 times.

Who was that black haired guy in the blue and yellow x suit in those scans?

Meggan at her best

http://www.picsaway.com/thumbs/uncanny_x_men_465_page_18-ef2ea7fa63.jpg http://www.picsaway.com/thumbs/uncanny_x_men_465_page_19-3bf3e42a15.jpg http://www.picsaway.com/thumbs/uncanny_x_men_465_page_20-52cbcad8be.jpg http://www.picsaway.com/thumbs/uncanny_x_men_465_page_21-97501f2b71.jpg http://www.picsaway.com/thumbs/uncanny_x_men_465_page_22-20229346df.jpg http://www.picsaway.com/thumbs/uncanny_x_men_465_page_23-7d7a230449.jpg http://www.picsaway.com/thumbs/uncanny_x_men_465_page_24-03d1b41cb6.jpg

Meggan 10/10

Meggan wins. She can turn to sand or water or become Magneto himself and then use a little power cosmic or magic.

I'd give this a stalemate, can really go either way

Oh yeah forgot about this one

Meggan

Originally posted by psy_blade
Meggan wins. She can turn to sand or water or become Magneto himself and then use a little power cosmic or magic.


She has a wider range of attacks, but its still a close battle

keep it rollin

What happened with Mags potters after AvX

What happened with Mags powers after AvX

I mean has there been an explanation

Originally posted by Alias Stone
What happened with Mags potters after AvX

Maggy Potter finally destroyed the last Horcrux, freeing...

Wait, no. Its just been messed up, that's all they've said.

Meggan wins.

Throwback thread

I'm going with Meggan

Meggan