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Puck gets healed in between each battle and he gets one hour of prep (to do what? Prepare snarky coments most likely), he has to fight the following oponents:

1) Punisher without weapons
2) Captain America
3) Daredevil
4) Ironfist
5) Hawkeye
6) Venom (McGargan)
7) Spider-man
8) Gray Hulk

He does not get past Venom

If he has prep he actually wins as he uses his E-m glider and Nemesis Sword that can cut through anything.

Originally posted by golem370
He does not get past Venom
Yes, something like that.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
Yes, something like that.

If he is using Nemesis sword, Venom and the rest of his body would be sliced into itty bitty peices. Without the sword yeah Puck's screwed

I agree, but only when Venom is stupid enough to let Puck stab him.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
I agree, but only when Venom is stupid enough to let Puck stab him.

McGargan isn't known for his intelligence.

Oh right, it's that McGargan dude. I forgot. Well, that's another scenario. Puck has a decent chance against him.

Cap pimps Puck... Or if not then Hawkeye got the chance coz of the range even he gets through these guys Venom murders him....

Originally posted by Rewmac
Cap pimps Puck... Or if not then Hawkeye got the chance coz of the range even he gets through these guys Venom murders him....

Ummmm...Cap can't hurt Puck and what's Hawkeye going to do? Puck's bulletproof and as fast, agile and listed as the same reflexes as Spider-Man.

Then Venom eats him....

Originally posted by Rewmac
Then Venom eats him....

Eats him...no, suffocate yes. However, since this is prep he has his glider which has a shield and Nemesis magical sword that can slice through anything.

Venom is famous for beating stronger people than him. And Puck isn't stronger. You talk about Venom like he is some 3 year who can't handle himself.

Originally posted by Rewmac
Venom is famous for beating stronger people than him. And Puck isn't stronger. You talk about Venom like he is some 3 year who can't handle himself.

Eh? I even said "Without the sword yeah Puck's screwed".

Puck's experience which is a century long is not to be underestimated.

Fighting Spiderman, The Hulk, Juggernaut and I can make my list longer and longer isn't to be underestimated. I don't have to explain Venom to you I hope. Even with the sword. Venom is faster, stronger, more agile, more durable...

Originally posted by Rewmac
Fighting Spiderman, The Hulk, Juggernaut and I can make my list longer and longer isn't to be underestimated. I don't have to explain Venom to you I hope. Even with the sword. Venom is faster, stronger, more agile, more durable...

Classic Puck fought Hulk before and he couldn't even touch him, also it doesn't matter how durable you are as the sword is magical and can cut through anything. So yeah Venom's durability aint helping. Puck is basically a more experienced better fighter Spider-Man.

In this battle Puck even has a superior Green Goblin Glider created by Department H.

Gargan is not the brains of the Venom being the Symbiote is.

Thats BS He was able to hit Quicksilver at a speeding pace. He was able to catch Spider-Man and there are other pics of him against speedsters.

Not really as Puck classic and current has instaneous reflexes due to his mystical background.

I think that with the weapon Puck would do good against Venom.

Darn right..

Puck bio:
http://alphanex.alphaflight.net/index.php/Puck_I

Glider:
http://alphanex.alphaflight.net/index.php/Flight_Platform

Nemesis Sword:
http://alphanex.alphaflight.net/index.php/Nemesis

McGargen maybe is dumber but the symbiote is an improved one it supposed to be much stronger than the original.

Has anybody taken into account that McGargan Venom could just rip the sword out of pucks hands and then pucks screwed.

Puck is pretty fast and will be hard to catch, he also may be flying with the glider and he can always chose to take the offensive with his speed.

It may be a little stage dependant.

Originally posted by quickshot
Has anybody taken into account that McGargan Venom could just rip the sword out of pucks hands and then pucks screwed. Good thinkin' you got serious potential

Originally posted by quickshot
Has anybody taken into account that McGargan Venom could just rip the sword out of pucks hands and then pucks screwed.

Hardly, Puck's vastly agile, experienced, durable. If classic Puck can dodge attacks from Deadly Ernest without him touching him yeah Venom aint doing nothing of the sorts.

Venom would kill him....if he didnt get annihilated by cap in round two...which he would...

Originally posted by King KAM
Venom would kill him....if he didnt get annihilated by cap in round two...which he would...

I don't think Venom would have it easy with the magical sword and the glider. Come on now, we both know Puck would destroy Cap

That canadian midget is not getting passed Cap.

Originally posted by LordFear
That canadian midget is not getting passed Cap.

Cap can't hurt Puck, so....no...your wrong. Plus the fact Puck has a century of experience behind his belt as well

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Cap can't hurt Puck, so....no...your wrong. Plus the fact Puck has a century of experience behind his belt as well


uh and Cap doesn't have battle experience?
That punk goes down. He went down with Logan and Cap gave Logan a run for his money

He'd get to Grey Hulk.

Originally posted by Beta Ray Howard
He'd get to Grey Hulk.



HAHAHAHAHA. That's all right. Can I have some of what you're drinking?

Originally posted by LordFear
uh and Cap doesn't have battle experience?
That punk goes down. He went down with Logan and Cap gave Logan a run for his money

Ummm...Logan never beat Puck. EVER. Your not familar with Puck at all are you?

Please read:
http://alphanex.alphaflight.net/index.php/Puck_I

Originally posted by LordFear
HAHAHAHAHA. That's all right. Can I have some of what you're drinking?

Classic Puck prior to his upgrade took it to the Savage Hulk, see it pays off to know what your talking about

Originally posted by LordFear
HAHAHAHAHA. That's all right. Can I have some of what you're drinking?

Dude, trust me when I tell you that Puck is uber.

He'd take Venom, and I know a LOT about Venom. The symbiote can be cut, especially by that Blade that Mungi is mentioning.

I read through the whole Alpha Flight run in preparation for Omega Flight, so I'm giving you an educated opinion.

Originally posted by Beta Ray Howard
Dude, trust me when I tell you that Puck is uber.

He'd take Venom, and I know a LOT about Venom. The symbiote can be cut, especially by that Blade that Mungi is mentioning.

I read through the whole Alpha Flight run in preparation for Omega Flight, so I'm giving you an educated opinion.


Well you might be right, I mean I never liked any member of ALPHA FLIGHT. I thought they were a joke. So Puck to me is nothing but a joke but I will take your word for it

Originally posted by LordFear
Well you might be right, I mean I never liked any member of ALPHA FLIGHT. I thought they were a joke. So Puck to me is nothing but a joke but I will take your word for it

I actually thought the same way until two years ago, I thought Wolverine could solo the team. Then I started to read the series and found out they rountinely took on Elder Gods, and even beat a weakened Galactus. Their feats are outrageous...their so uber and so underated.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
I actually thought the same way until two years ago, I thought Wolverine solo the team. Then I started to read the series and found out they rountinely took on Elder Gods, and even beat a weakened Galactus. Their feats are outrageous...their so uber and so underated.

Maybe its because they are from Canada. Who the hell realy pays attention to our friend's to the North?

Originally posted by LordFear
Maybe its because they are from Canada. Who the hell realy pays attention to our friend's to the North?

I'm Canadian and I didn't care for them until just out the blue I decided to give them a chance. The first volume was ground breaking for it's time.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
I'm Canadian and I didn't care for them until just out the blue I decided to give them a chance. The first volume was ground breaking for it's time.



Well no offence my Canuck friend. But really AF to me always felt incomplete. I dunno like a real leader that would inspire true leadership unlike Cap, Cyclops or Storm or whomever. Just seems a bit flaky is all

sorry that's "offense"

Originally posted by LordFear
Well no offence my Canuck friend. But really AF to me always felt incomplete. I dunno like a real leader that would inspire true leadership unlike Cap, Cyclops or Storm or whomever. Just seems a bit flaky is all

Well Heather when she was the leader of Alpha Flight took over a global crisis when terrorists stole a nuclear sub and threatened to blow it. It was Alpha Flight who lead the People's Proctate and the Avengers including Captain America to success. She might not have been famous as them, but she had the tools to lead.

what are you talking about alpha flight had some great leaders such as wolverine, Mac and even puck has shown to be a great leader when needed however he tend's to be my of a night crawler leader who needs mroe convidence in his leader ship abilities

Originally posted by capt it up
what are you talking about alpha flight had some great leaders such as wolverine, Mac and even puck has shown to be a great leader when needed however he tend's to be my of a night crawler leader who needs mroe convidence in his leader ship abilities

Definetly when Wolverine led First Flight he saved New York from a nuclear holocaust. Mac is by far the teams most well known leader.

Originally posted by capt it up
what are you talking about alpha flight had some great leaders such as wolverine, Mac and even puck has shown to be a great leader when needed however he tend's to be my of a night crawler leader who needs mroe convidence in his leader ship abilities


Logan is not a leader. Furthermore they just didn't haven't impress me. That's my feeling and nuts to what people have to say about it. I don't like them, they don't feel like a team but rather something just put together. AND what are they fighting for anyway? I mean XMEN are for mutant equality, Avengers to protect the world, Defenders the same but what are they about?

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Definetly when Wolverine led First Flight he saved New York from a nuclear holocaust. Mac is by far the teams most well known leader.

yup


Wolverine is really quite the leader, but msot people don't realize it.

Mac an amazing leader, but even he deos not get enough credit.

Puck a great leader, but his problem seem's to lie with his confidence he reminds me of Night crawler a lot when it coem to that.


There were a few other such has heather who was a good leader however I don't think she quite as good as some of the above.

Originally posted by LordFear
Logan is not a leader. Furthermore they just didn't haven't impress me. That's my feeling and nuts to what people have to say about it. I don't like them, they don't feel like a team but rather something just put together. AND what are they fighting for anyway? I mean XMEN are for mutant equality, Avengers to protect the world, Defenders the same but what are they about?

Alpha Flight saves the world majority of the time, hell Shaman saved all of reality from Carcass, they saved the world from the Master creating a Plodex Army, they saved the world from Dreamqueen as she took over the minds of mostly everyone in North America and she was still growing stronger, they have saved the world from the Great Beasts, Llan etc, etc etc.

Originally posted by capt it up

Puck a great leader, but his problem seem's to lie with his confidence he reminds me of Night crawler a lot when it coem to that.


There were a few other such has heather who was a good leader however I don't think she quite as good as some of the above.

Naa...Puck never had a confidence issue, he wanted to take leadership from the clone Mac in vol.2. However, he stepped back due to respect for Heather.

She actually was one of the best, as she led Alpha Flight far longer than Mac did. Quite abit more actually

Originally posted by LordFear
Logan is not a leader. Furthermore they just didn't haven't impress me. That's my feeling and nuts to what people have to say about it. I don't like them, they don't feel like a team but rather something just put together. AND what are they fighting for anyway? I mean XMEN are for mutant equality, Avengers to protect the world, Defenders the same but what are they about?

Logan's not a leader?

Logan not a leader becuase of his choice not becuase he is not a great leader. He led alpha flight first Flight. He led the x-men for a time. Scot has on more then one occassion asked him to Lead a team, but logan declined. Professor X told Wolverine to help Scot lead the x-men. Wolverine use to lead speacil Op's teams. Lo0gan use to Lead people into war for more then 3 war's. Logan has more leader ship experience then many other. Logan choice not to lead. He has been mention on many occassions as beign a great leader.



Also the reason you don't feel alpha Flight is a good team is, becuase you do not know squat about them. You should actaully read there comic's before judging them.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Naa...Puck never had a confidence issue, he wanted to take leadership from the clone Mac in vol.2. However, he stepped back due to respect for Heather.

She actually was one of the best, as she led Alpha Flight far longer than Mac did. Quite abit more actually

I was always under the impression Puck did not think he was as good a leader as other's even though he was

Logan is indeed a good leader when push comes to shove, he's military training and experience make him a valuable asset. When Mac and his clone were captured by A.I.M it was Logan who helped lead AF once again to save his "foster father"

Originally posted by capt it up
I was always under the impression Puck did not think he was as good a leader as other's even though he was

Naaa...he's a leader, he led the Outcasts (group of supehumans) and trained them for decades. He was even the bussiness leader of Alpha Flight till he gave it to Windshear as he perfered not to be behind a desk and be out in the field.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Logan is indeed a good leader when push comes to shove, he's military training and experience make him a valuable asset. When Mac and his clone were captured by A.I.M it was Logan who helped lead AF once again to save his "foster father"

yup. I really did not intend to bring logan so into this debate my bad mungi.


He just one of alpha flights many good pass leaders.



ya it funny that his foster father is like 100 years younger then him lol.

hey is'ent puck like 80 years old

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Naaa...he's a leader, he led the Outcasts (group of supehumans) and trained them for decades. He was even the bussiness leader of Alpha Flight till he gave it to Windshear as he perfered not to be behind a desk and be out in the field.

I see then that my bad

Originally posted by capt it up
Logan's not a leader?

Logan not a leader becuase of his choice not becuase he is not a great leader. He led alpha flight first Flight. He led the x-men for a time. Scot has on more then one occassion asked him to Lead a team, but logan declined. Professor X told Wolverine to help Scot lead the x-men. Wolverine use to lead speacil Op's teams. Lo0gan use to Lead people into war for more then 3 war's. Logan has more leader ship experience then many other. Logan choice not to lead. He has been mention on many occassions as beign a great leader.



Also the reason you don't feel alpha Flight is a good team is, becuase you do not know squat about them. You should actaully read there comic's before judging them.

Take it easy fella, you make it sound like I attacked you personally. I don't like them, that's all that's it. Now they may have great feats and that's fine and dandy but I don't care. Everytime I see them they are chasing Logan around asking him to comeback not my kind of team.

Originally posted by capt it up
yup. I really did not intend to bring logan so into this debate my bad mungi.

He just one of alpha flights many good pass leaders.

ya it funny that his foster father is like 100 years younger then him lol.

hey is'ent puck like 80 years old

It's fine, Logan is still a member of AF and they need any publicity they can get. Wolverine is one of my favorite chracters, I grew up reading him.

100 now, he was 80 in early 90's

Originally posted by capt it up
I see then that my bad

Meh! no worries it's not common knowledge. Here's an Outcast bio for anyone who wishes to read up on them

http://alphanex.alphaflight.net/index.php/Outcasts

Originally posted by King_Mungi
I actually thought the same way until two years ago, I thought Wolverine could solo the team. Then I started to read the series and found out they rountinely took on Elder Gods, and even beat a weakened Galactus. Their feats are outrageous...their so uber and so underated.
How are they underrated now?

Originally posted by Accel
How are they underrated now?

Well their not well known, and most people on this board have never seen the Alpha Flight or the other Alpha Flight related respect threads. If you don't consider them underrated anymore, looks like I did my job.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Well their not well known, and most people on this board have never seen the Alpha Flight or the other Alpha Flight related respect threads. If you don't consider them underrated anymore, looks like I did my job.
I'd have to disagree. At this point I think they're very well known. Heck, the most of the people who don't know that much about them are the same kind of people that say Iron Man can beat a Green Lantern.

Originally posted by Accel
I'd have to disagree. At this point I think they're very well known. Heck, the most of the people who don't know that much about them are the same kind of people that say Iron Man can beat a Green Lantern.

Actually quite true noticed that with some members, but you really think majority of the population here know just how powerful AF really are? Hmmm...I guess I did do my job.

Originally posted by LordFear
Take it easy fella, you make it sound like I attacked you personally. I don't like them, that's all that's it. Now they may have great feats and that's fine and dandy but I don't care. Everytime I see them they are chasing Logan around asking him to comeback not my kind of team.

so i guess x-men not your kind of team either or new avengers