EVANGEL94's WildCard MiniTournament: (hulk10) VS (B dot Rob) VS (Laminator_X) [Vote!]

Text-only Version: Click HERE to see this thread with all of the graphics, features, and links.



Evangel94
Location: Antarctica, 10x10 miles, 100 square miles
Flight is limited to the upper limit of the atmosphere.

hulk10


VS

B dot Rob


VS

Laminator X



Contestants will post their own write-ups.

Good luck to all contestants. Let the match begin

Evangel94
Only vote for one participants btw.

Laminator_X
Well, let's see.
For our two hours Mordo'll conjure us up a cool ice house that's warm and comfy on the inside, along with some arctic appropriate clothing and a nice warm meal. Wi'll sit back and enjoy ourselves, have some hot cocoa, make some smores and swap stories. Super-Skrull surprises everyone with his excellent harmonica playing.

When the fight's about to start, Mordo vanishes the shelter end everybody piles into Ecstasy's darkness. Mordo's magic protects the rest of the team from the nightmares and life drain while we observe the other teams either bumping eachother off or dying from exposure.

Later on we'll start randomly ambushing surviving enemies at opportune moments. We'll suck'em in one at a time and have my whole team pound on the unfortunate suck-ee who's in here unprotected from the nightmares.

We'll be a bit more careful with Black Bolt or Super-Sonic, but I'm guessing they'll be putting some serious hurt on one another.

B dot Rob
Basically it goes like this.

During prep Sand stirs up some magma from the ground and Snow takes the temp away from it to make steam so the temp will be bareable to the 2 people on my team that'll be bothered by it.

Captain America and Ultimate Captain America team up and beat down the bad guys.

Cap'll identify the Ultimate Cap team as a bunch of good guys via Aquaman thanks to Avengers/JLA being canon and identify the Mordo team as up to no good thanks to it being Mordo (that and Aquaman telepathically feeds intel on Raysh and I believe he knows of Deadshot as up to no good either). From then on we all know Cap expects his ultimate side to give him a fair warning but on the Ultimate team you have a whole bunch of people who are more then willing to go with a cheap shot artist like Ult Cap and jump them with their guard down which has been tactically set up during the fight via telepathic voice by Aquaman and the only other telepath in this thing to be able to hear this as Mordo who's getting beat up by Super Sonic and Black Bolt and is a known manipulator.

Super Sonic hits Black Bolt first, him being identified as their biggest threat by observing their fight, with his best shot which is equal to the power of a big bang and strong enough to smack people into alternate universes but being sure to keep his power in check as to not kill everyone but himself like he did in the Knux fight.

http://img460.imageshack.us/img460/8409/z1zr9.jpg

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/909/z2jz9.jpg


For clearance here's a statement of how Zones are equal to a universe.

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/3025/z1aq7.jpg

Cap strikes simultaneously with Super Sonic taking down 616 Cap with a kick to the nuts, a knee in the face, and one of these

http://www.weaintcool.com/pictures/articles/finishmoves/legdrop.jpg


to finish him off and with the two key cogs down it's only a matter of making time.

Lady Shiva just naturally beats down Elektra as I don't think she's close to her level and if she doesn't beat her down Cap oneshots her with his shield. Her being tied up by Shiva does not allow her to escape this assault.


Elijah Snow takes away all the heat from Medusa's hair allowing Swift to shatter it and tear her apart and holds off Tigra with his more then formidable h2h skill until Swift blitzes her to all hell or Aquaman intervenes and just beats the hell out of her.

Sand is untouchable by Colossus and Sasquatch as he has gone on record saying a killing blow by Wonder Woman tickles though he won't be able to do much he can hold them off until Super Sonic comes and blitzes them to all hell. Though Aquaman's Waterbearer hand would likely make quicker work of both of them probably being potent enough to revert them to street level.


Or

Everyone just piles up on Black Bolt and Sand beats down the ground units as no one can hurt him but Boltagar.

Evangel94
Hopefully hulk10 will be able to post a write-up as well...

Laminator_X
Mordo is not immediately available for beatdowns from either Super-Sonic or Blackbolt. Mordo is watching and laughing from within the Darkness as the other teams tear eachother apart. Ecstasy is intangible and hiding beneath the snows.

Since they're being kind enough to split off into twos and threes my "vulture" strategy will work wonderfully. Mordo will observe the battle and pick targets via clairavoyance. Whomever is left standing out of a given mini-fight gets sucked into the dark by a teleporting Ecstasy, and pounded by the rest of my team as the thing in the dark drains their life-force and torments them with nightmares. Nobody below herald-level on either opposing team can stand up to that combined punishment.

When the only one left outside is either Black Bolt or Super Sonic, Super Skrull puts up his forcefield around my team and Ecstasy lets us out behind the cover of some drifts or battle debris. Mordo will then send out his Astral Form to crush whichever one is left out there via psychic assault, against which neither one has any significant defense.

B dot Rob
The teams won't be tearing each other apart via temp pact by the Captains so Mordo can laugh as he sees his own team get beat down all he wants, just makes it easier.

Ecstasy is taken down by Aquaman's waterbearer hand feeding her until she's tangible then KO'd or by just straight up telepathy. Whatever happens to Mordo while he's inside is as good a guess to you as it is to me, hopefully for you he gets freed to which the combo of Aquaman cancelling out his magic/auto shields, Super Sonic blitzing him to all hell and Bolt being a general nuisance takes him down. Super Skrull isn't really a huge factor considering this is classic jobber Skrull (which to my knowledge was clarified during the draft) and Super Sonic could probably just teleport inside the force field (which shouldn't be too tough that Colossus, Sasquatch and Sand couldn't pound through since it's only a classic Storm level field) tie him up and punt him to the upper limits of the atomsphere meet him up there and smash him through the antarctic.

B dot Rob
And just to give an example to those who aren't buying a Herald actually using his speed and strength to a cheesy degree

this is what an average Super Sonic fight looks like to the masses

http://img246.imageshack.us/my.php?image=z1fv2.jpg

see the beams of light? That's right that's Super Sonic and a foe who possess the same power up (I think he used a device to amp himself up as well) blitzing each other to all hell.

Laminator_X
Oh I see, youre saying that your team and Hulk10's will team up to come after mine. Well by all means do!

When Mordo observes your little conference to set up your truce, my team will invisibly disembark in an out of the way spot long enough to send illusions of us to attack your little love fest. By the time you've "beaten the bad guys" we'll be safely hidden away again and enjoy the overal carnage you described betwean the other two teams.

Then it's back to the 7 on one beat-downs! evil face

King KAM
can i post for hulk10....???

B dot Rob
Originally posted by Laminator_X
Oh I see, youre saying that your team and Hulk10's will team up to come after mine. Well by all means do!

When Mordo observes your little conference to set up your truce, my team will invisibly disembark in an out of the way spot long enough to send illusions of us to attack your little love fest. By the time you've "beaten the bad guys" we'll be safely hidden away again and enjoy the overal carnage you described betwean the other two teams.

Then it's back to the 7 on one beat-downs! evil face

Yup because we all know there aren't magic negating telepaths on my team and the Cap's will meet in person to discuss it instead of using said telepath.


Oops my bad there is and they won't.

Laminator_X
That's funny, I somehow missed where telepathy can somehow negate magic. Oh wait, it cant.

These aren't holograms or something that Orin could just spot as not having minds or something. My magical illusions are going to fool whatever senses you've got. Even if that were possable, your E-Meta TP couldn't overcome my Herald's magic in any case.

With enough time some of your characters might be able to spot contradicions in their behavior vs the real deals, but that's time that they won't have. Or was Sonic going to stop and have a chat before pounding everybody?

B dot Rob
Yeah what happens when the Waterbearer hand touches your herald level magic illusions again?

And illusions have minds that can be read and not be revealed as an illusion? Since when?

Your team is simply cooked in a team up.

Laminator_X
Originally posted by B dot Rob

And illusions have minds that can be read and not be revealed as an illusion? Since when?


They don't need them, yor character's mind itself is fooled. You're still acting like these are some sort of holograms or something. All illusions are not the same.



Why a big hunk of nothing, that's what. Your E-Meta magic item cant beat my Herald-level spell.



Which is a funny thing to say, as you're entire strategy is built on the premise of you calling the shots for another character's team, and said team completely ignoring yours to come after mine.

For that matter, you've never explained how anyone on either team was actually going to do anything to us, based on my opening move. It's not like you can come punch us or something.

B dot Rob
They don't need them, yor character's mind itself is fooled. You're still acting like these are some sort of holograms or something. All illusions are not the same.

Scans of illusions doing what you say? Everytime I see someone use illusions against telepathy I see a pwned illusionist

Why a big hunk of nothing, that's what. Your E-Meta magic item cant beat my Herald-level spell.

Your character being on a different scale has nothing to do with the effictiveness of the Waterbearer hand on magic, especially considering it has beaten much greater things then some silly illusions which are detectable by TP in the first place.

For that matter, you've never explained how anyone on either team was actually going to do anything to us, based on my opening move. It's not like you can come punch us or something.

Aquaman gives Ecstasy a seizure, everyone in there either dies inside or gets spit out. From then it's rapage. Unless you can prove to me Ecstasy has some form of TP protection.

Soljer
Vote - Lamintaor_X

Though Hulk10 hasn't posted, it will matter little, as he can hardly form coherent thoughts, much less outdebate either of these two competitors.

As far as they go, however, Laminator has done a much better job on his strategies.

B dot Rob
How considering his strategy is just sipping hot cocoa?

Soljer
Originally posted by B dot Rob
How considering his strategy is just sipping hot cocoa?

And he can still whip your team, erm.

And, by 'strategy,' I didn't mean write-up, but rather his arguments in the actual 'debate.'

B dot Rob
How?

Aquaman is able to negate anything Mordo throws at them and effectively take down the most annoying opponent in this thing (Ecstasy) with one good Psi blast.

Same with Super Sonic who could just open up the gate to the silence zone and flood her with the infinite energies of the Chaos Emeralds until she's fed and tangible.

http://img363.imageshack.us/img363/1056/z1xn0.jpg

E-Snow could freeze the Mandarin Jr's rings for Super Sonic to shatter.

Swift could easily rip apart the Fixer.

Lady Shiva and Ult Cap pretty handily over power Raysh and Deadshot in every way imagineable.


Oh and what arguments? Aquaman can't negate the illusions because he's only in the enhanced meta category?

Illusions are able to trick telepaths despite the fact that in the past the opposite can be said?

Ecstasy is untouchable by telepathy even though nothing has been proven to say she is?

Laminator_X
Originally posted by B dot Rob
They don't need them, yor character's mind itself is fooled. You're still acting like these are some sort of holograms or something. All illusions are not the same.

Scans of illusions doing what you say? Everytime I see someone use illusions against telepathy I see a pwned illusionist


Mastermind completely ruining Phoenix and kicking off the Dark Phoenix Saga is the obvious example of telepathy not being a cure-all against illusions.



What it's done when not bound by the rules of this tourney is irrelevant. In this match it's can't do what you want it to.




Perhaps you should review the rules. Using telepathy for things like that is specifically forbidden.


Oh, and I sipped cocoa because I could. evil face

B dot Rob

Laminator_X
Originally posted by B dot Rob
Mastermind completely ruining Phoenix and kicking off the Dark Phoenix Saga is the obvious example of telepathy not being a cure-all against illusions.

Wasn't this when Jean still could barely grasp the concepts of TP? Not a great example.


Where on Earth are you getting that idea from? Jean was a seasonned veteran even before she became the Phoenix avatar.



That "extra punch" would break a tie in his own class, but not let him exceed it.



Attacks sure, but not the kind of instant takedown you described. There would be time for my team to mount a defense, as opposed to the scenario you suggested.

You're also acting like Aquaman even knows that she should be his prime target. Nobody on your team knows jack about her, and leading off with psi-hunting in the middle of a mass brawl is rather out of character for him.

hulk10
Well I see that no body like my right up last time.I just learned about this so I'll post back tommorow. eek! big grin cool

batdude123
Originally posted by hulk10
Well I see that no body like my right up last time.I just learned about this so I'll post back tommorow. eek! big grin cool

You won't win, so it doesn't even matter if you never post...

Scoobless
Originally posted by batdude123
You won't win, so it doesn't even matter if you never post...

laughing out loud

Evangel94
I'll run this match until January 1st.

Laminator_X
Originally posted by batdude123
You won't win, so it doesn't even matter if you never post...

That's cold, man. No need to be rude, we were all his age once. If it was all about winning, I'd have quit after yesterday's two vote turnout.

Welcome back, Hulk10. Give us your best shot.

B dot Rob
Where on Earth are you getting that idea from? Jean was a seasonned veteran even before she became the Phoenix avatar.


Wasn't this around ish 150 in which Jean just started using TP?


That "extra punch" would break a tie in his own class, but not let him exceed it.

This is so silly and desperate it doesn't even deserve a response.


Attacks sure, but not the kind of instant takedown you described. There would be time for my team to mount a defense, as opposed to the scenario you suggested.


Fine Aquaman hits her with a TP attack which dizzys her and makes her tangible allowing for either a

Shield throw from either Cap
Rock throw from Sand or any class 100 fighter
Nerve Strike from Shiva (oops that's not allowed because it lets her do e-meta damage roll eyes (sarcastic) )
Claw rip from Swift
Speed Blitz from Sonic
etc etc etc

to take her down.

The rest of your team, who are all conviently plucked into one place thanks to the genius tactic of gathering them inside one person, who's especially vulnerable to one of my guys, gets dogpiled.

You're also acting like Aquaman even knows that she should be his prime target. Nobody on your team knows jack about her,

616 Cap knows EVERYBODY (well meta wise) in the 616.

and leading off with psi-hunting in the middle of a mass brawl is rather out of character for him.

Mass brawl? It's a effing 14 on 1 according to you (with your entire team hiding inside Ecstasy and all).

hulk10
Here's my write up:

B dot Rob like I told X in our 1'st battle it took a savage Hulk to take down BB's force feild and all he has to do to do it is wave his hand.And your kicking cap in the nuts thearoy if he can dodge bullets he can dodge a swift kick to the balls.Anyway like X BB uses his ...? wait do start with some logs in our igloo tell me Ev.Anyway BB uses his electron blast to start a fire on the logs.Since Colossus and Sasqautch can each with stand cold temputures they go outside and talk about a plan to stay side by side and if possible take each others fall and just beat the dang crap out of any enimes in their path.Oh!Your stay behind stradgy and can't get hurt ... let me tell you this not Hulk,Superman or even the Surfer could a scream from BB and not be knocked out is at least 99.9% to 1% and thats what he's going to do if he has to so shut the **** up!!!!!!!!!Once again your Black hole and assult forgot my force feild MORAN!!!And trying to make Medusa's hair brittle she has hair that is the ... let me put it this way her hair has the = solidness of a steel bar at jail.Cap and Elecktra can easily out manuver most attacks.BB could also with stand punchs from Hulk.And if BB wanted to win he would have.Also tigra can out run plenty of your attacks and plant them every once and a while.Unless somebody of either of you can tamper with molicules then Cap's shield is safe they dodge and plant a few attacks every once and a while and thats about it.

hulk10
It won't let me edit so they pick Cap as the team leader and I like Rob's suggestsion on working together and I say Yes but to let you know just remember once we beat the CRAP out of X we fight.

King Kandy
Laminator X. His strategy is better then the other two put together.

Soljer
Originally posted by King Kandy
Laminator X. His strategy is better then the other two put together.

yes

SpunkySmurph
Voting for Laminator X. He seems to have he best grasp of the fight, and everything so far seems well thought-out.

But, I hope Hulk10 beats Rob. Just for the laughs that I'll have. smile

outavodka
L X seems to have this under contral here.

long pig
Mordo? What the f**k?

Tell me he isn't allowed free-roam prep.

Laminator_X
Sadly, I'm not allowed to have Mordo turn everyone into demigods, or the like. I'm saving most of the real Mordo madness in hopes of having some surprises left should I make it to the later rounds.

long pig
Originally posted by Laminator_X
Sadly, I'm not allowed to have Mordo turn everyone into demigods, or the like. I'm saving most of the real Mordo madness in hopes of having some surprises left should I make it to the later rounds.
Haha, how the hell did you lie your way into being able to have him?

I shall vote for you!

batdude123
Originally posted by long pig
Haha, how the hell did you lie your way into being able to have him?

I shall vote for you!

Same way you lied your way into being able to have Dr. Strange in a herald level tourney. smart

stick out tongue

Soljer
Originally posted by long pig
Haha, how the hell did you lie your way into being able to have him?

I shall vote for you!

Make sure you vote properly, I think that Evangel want people to put:

"Vote - Laminator" at the top of their posts, followed by their explanation.

I believe some peoples' votes did not count due to this fact. I could be mistaken, though.

long pig
Originally posted by Soljer
Make sure you vote properly, I think that Evangel want people to put:

"Vote - Laminator" at the top of their posts, followed by their explanation.

I believe some peoples' votes did not count due to this fact. I could be mistaken, though.
Good enough.

I vote for Lam for the simple fact that he has more of a grasp of what his characters can do and a better plan in which he can use his characters. Also, his characters are better, smarter and a bit more powerful in almost every single way.

I base all this on the few posts Lam has written, so when he goes full on, whoever he's against better have their shit together.

long pig
Originally posted by batdude123
Same way you lied your way into being able to have Dr. Strange in a herald level tourney. smart

stick out tongue
I didn't lie. He IS herald level, just not with prep. -coughsamewithmordocough-

TricksterPriest
Long Pig's right, Strange&Mordo are almost unstoppable with prep. Personally, I think I'm screwed if I fight his team. I can beat them on power and ruthlessness, but their prep gives them a huge advantage. Hulk, B dot, you guys are screwed. Laminator obviously knows Mordo well enough to realize how to use him in prep time. And a magi on Mordo's level with prep? the sky is the limit. Laminator, I am frankly scared like hell of having to face you. I know Apoc is powerful, but I have no idea how he does against magic. Not to mention if Violator is a match for Mordo. Good battle. You earned my vote. thumb up

Evangel94
Happy New Year everyone.

StarsNeverFall7
Well after a fun night of bringing in the new year, my vote is going to have to go to Laminator X.

Simply for the fact so far he seems to have the best grasp on what his team is capable of doing and making for sure that they get the job done with little to no effort.

Evangel94
The results are in!

Soljier - Laminator_X
King Kandy - Laminator_X
SpunkySmurph - Laminator_X
outavodka - Laminator_X
long pig - Laminator_X
TricksterPriest - Laminator_X
StarsNeverFall7 - Laminator_X

Congratulations to Laminator_X who defeats both hulk10 and B dot Rob.

Laminator moves foward in the WildCard MiniTournament.

hulk10 and B dot Rob, Thank you for participating in the Evangel94 2nd Slugfest Tournament.

Winner: Laminator_X

Match is now over

Roldz
Laminator, quess i voted a little to late..

Laminator_X
Thanks everyone. More fun to come in Wild-Card round two.


Roldz, LOL where were all these guys when we fought? Maybe we'll square off again in the finals? wink

Text-only Version: Click HERE to see this thread with all of the graphics, features, and links.