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Can the Superman of the 853rd Century defeat the Mighty Odin?

What's SP1M capable of?

he has a lot of crazy powers from 5th dimension imps...like punching through the very fabric of time

Originally posted by roughrider
What's SP1M capable of? He has some 5th Dimensional powers, that are limited when compared to actual Imps. His power also quickly decreases when he's not under the light of the 'Super Sun'

Supes 1M never did anything that would lead me to believe that he was more powerful then Odin.

Odin ftw

Originally posted by Galan007
He has some 5th Dimensional powers, that are limited when compared to actual Imps. His power also quickly decreases when he's not under the light of the 'Super Sun'

Supes 1M never did anything that would lead me to believe that he was more powerful then Odin.

Odin ftw

Has Odin ever punched through time? Leap (not fly) from planet to planet?

Originally posted by masterbruce
Has Odin ever punched through time? Leap (not fly) from planet to planet? Has Superman 1M ever unleashed a power that sent ripples throughout the Multiverse?


didn't think so.......

Originally posted by Galan007
Has Superman 1M ever unleashed a power that sent ripples throughout the Multiverse?


didn't think so.......

Odin sent ripples thru out the multiverse? I thought you had to be a singular being to do things like that.

Originally posted by Galan007
Has Superman 1M ever unleashed a power that sent ripples throughout the Multiverse?


didn't think so.......

Technically yes. His 'Time Punches' should have caused the entire universe (possibly Multi) to leap forward in time.

Originally posted by masterbruce
Can the Superman of the 853rd Century defeat the Mighty Odin?

No he doesn't, but he beats the MUCH weaker other Sky fathers such as King Thor (Not Frinkin RUNE THOR) and Zeus, who have yet to EVER prove they are faster than a speeding tachyon (A particle that is faster than the speed of light), and more powerful than gravitational pull of a collapsing sun, and can contain solar system destroying supernova blasts with a form of telekinesis (Force vision), and can blow out Red Dwarf Stars with their 'Super breathe'. If this takes place in Superman 1 Million solar system then he wins easily against all the other Sky fathers, who yet to prove ON panel they are in the same league as Odin.

For this battle, assume that it takes place close to the Super Sun, so Superman 1 Million won't be weakened due to lack of energy source.

Originally posted by masterbruce
For this battle, assume that it takes place close to the Super Sun, so Superman 1 Million won't be weakened due to lack of energy source.

He looses because Odin once apparently 'Shook the Multi verse' and beat a Galaxy destroying foe (Both of which I call subjective feats when you consider the evidence), but the at the level Odin is usually portrayed at, Superman 1 Million would cetrainly give him as good as match as the Mangog, or even the Dark Gods (Both of which certainly do not have Multi verse shaking powers)

Odin easily creates a Galaxy

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Scans/Odingalaxy1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Scans/Odingalaxy2.jpg

When has Supes 1M done that?

Originally posted by Galan007
Odin easily creates a Galaxy

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Scans/Odingalaxy1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Scans/Odingalaxy2.jpg

When has Supes 1M done that?

Yesss .... In the mind of King Thor. My mate creates entire fantasy universes anytime he supposedly gets laid, its hardly an impressive feat.

Subjective FEAT once again !

Odin transports the entire populace of earth to an alternate dimension.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Scans/Odintransportspopulation1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Scans/Odintransportspopulation2.jpg

When has S1M done that?

Originally posted by Galan007
Odin easily creates a Galaxy

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Scans/Odingalaxy1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Scans/Odingalaxy2.jpg

When has Supes 1M done that?

They kinda remind of Superman and Orion when Orion was showing Sueprman what the universe really looks like to the New Gods in their true forms.

Odin easily defeats Forsung in a battle the "shook the universe"

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Scans/OdinvsForsung1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Scans/OdinvsForsung2.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Scans/OdinvsForsung3.jpg

When has S1M done that?

Originally posted by Galan007
Odin transports the entire populace of earth to an alternate dimension.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Scans/Odintransportspopulation1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Scans/Odintransportspopulation2.jpg

When has S1M done that?

these powers are impressive, but they're not very useful in a fight? (ie Odin versus Thanos, Thanos also couldnt do most of the feats you've shown yet he pretty much stalemated Odin)

Originally posted by Galan007
Odin easily defeats Forsung in a battle the "shook the universe"

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Scans/OdinvsForsung1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Scans/OdinvsForsung2.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Scans/OdinvsForsung3.jpg

When has S1M done that?

I'm confused now. If one can punch TIME, one surely can shake the Universe. He did this in his weakened state. And what is Oding going to do to a being who is immune to his magic? This is likely just a stalemate. Superman 1m isn't powerful enough to hurt Odin. Tho he is more powerful than thanos, so one has to wonder if he can't pull of a win. And I dont' think Odin can pull of a win simply becuz he is magical. And 5 D magic in Supers blood trumps odin's magic any day of the week.

Originally posted by Galan007
Odin transports the entire populace of earth to an alternate dimension.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Scans/Odintransportspopulation1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Scans/Odintransportspopulation2.jpg

When has S1M done that?

I can tell you that the enrgy needed to blow out a RED DWARF star, would have to be considerably more IMMENSE that merely teleporting the population of earth into another Dimension. Where talking out about energy levels Trillions of times greater.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I'm confused now. If one can punch TIME, one surely can shake the Universe. He did this in his weakened state. And what is Oding going to do to a being who is immune to his magic? This is likely just a stalemate. Superman 1m isn't powerful enough to hurt Odin. Tho he is more powerful than thanos, so one has to wonder if he can't pull of a win. And I dont' think Odin can pull of a win simply becuz he is magical. And 5 D magic in Supers blood trumps odin's magic any day of the week. Bottom line is that S1M's best feats are...

Controling the minds of a few beings, and punching through the time barrier.

anything else someone adds is pure speculation.

the bottom line is:
Odin's feats>S1M's feats

Originally posted by Doctor S.T.D.
I can tell you that the enrgy needed to blow out a RED DWARF star, would have to be considerably more IMMENSE that merely teleporting the population of earth into another Dimension. Where talking out about energy levels Trillions of times greater. S1M never blew out a star.

Originally posted by Galan007
S1M never blew out a star.

He stated to Firestorm and the Ray that he had done son in the past.

Originally posted by Galan007
Bottom line is that S1M's best feats are...

Controling the minds of a few beings, and punching through the time barrier.

anything else someone adds is pure speculation.

the bottom line is:
Odin's feats>S1M's feats

Not pure speculation, stated on panel, which is as valid as a narrator doing the same.

Originally posted by Doctor S.T.D.
Not pure speculation, stated on panel, which is as valid as a narrator doing the same. character statements ARE NOT as good as a Narrator's statement.

Originally posted by Doctor S.T.D.
He stated to Firestorm and the Ray that he had done son in the past. Statements aren't as good as feats.

Originally posted by Galan007
character statements ARE NOT as good as a Narrator's statement.

According to whom ?, and its hardly in plausible when you consider him containing exploding Solaris with his force vision ? In fact i think its more plausible than a character who can supposedly shake the universe one minute, and is then loosing against the Mangog and the Dark Gods, the next.

Anyway it doesn't really matter, a universe is greater than a Star anyway.

Originally posted by Doctor S.T.D.
Anyway it doesn't really matter, a universe is greater than a Star anyway. There you go.

Originally posted by Galan007
There you go.

So Odin can create universes, yet has a hard time dealing with Thanos, who isn't even a speck of sand compared to a universe?

Originally posted by Galan007
There you go.

Oh well at least i have the moral win of knowing I can concede to defeat when I know I'm wrong.

Originally posted by masterbruce
So Odin can create universes, yet has a hard time dealing with Thanos, who isn't even a speck of sand compared to a universe?

He cannot create universes, those scans are taking place in Thors mind, and its the Odin Force creating the illusion, not Odin.

Originally posted by masterbruce
So Odin can create universes, yet has a hard time dealing with Thanos, who isn't even a speck of sand compared to a universe?
Originally posted by Doctor S.T.D.
He cannot create universes, those scans are taking place in Thors mind, and its the Odin Force creating the illusion, not Odin. What he said.

That was my bad. Those particular scans aren't really feats for Odin himself.

Punching through time isn't that impressive seeing as a number of characters have done so.

Juggernaut was doing so easily
Hulk has done so
Hercules has done so
Thor(classic) has done so
etc

Yes, but he was near death when he did it.

Originally posted by Galvaclaw
Yes, but he was near death when he did it.

And Odin was sleep, when a part of his mind was consuming the universe.

Either way Odin easily defeats Superman.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
And Odin was sleep, when a part of his mind was consuming the universe.

Either way Odin easily defeats Superman.

How does he defeat Superman 1m easily when he didn't defeat Thanos Easily? And Superman 1M is clearly Superior to Thanos. WTF? I can not agree with this statement. I can agree that S1M cannot defeat Odin. But Odin beating Sm1 easily? NOT. Not when S1M is more than Likely immune to any and every thing except being weak to not being under the Super Sun.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
How does he defeat Superman 1m easily when he didn't defeat Thanos Easily? And Superman 1M is clearly Superior to Thanos. WTF? I can not agree with this statement. I can agree that S1M cannot defeat Odin. But Odin beating Sm1 easily? NOT. Not when S1M is more than Likely immune to any and every thing except being weak to not being under the Super Sun.

Weren't you the one arguing that Odin wasn't going all out in that fight? thats funny.

So Odin destroys your super sun, and easily wins as stated above.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Weren't you the one arguing that Odin wasn't going all out in that fight? thats funny.

So Odin destroys your super sun, and easily wins as stated above.

I was arguing that Odin wasn't going all out. But many Forumers use that battle of THanos as a way to prove Thanos is this and that. SO I have to go by the forum and use that battle as well. The forum believes that Thanos gave Odin a hard time. No one would agree with me that thanos even standing was PIS so I will now use that fight with thanos to lesson Odin's power and thus say that Odin CANNOT beat SM1 with any kind of ease since SM1 is far superior to thanos. Odin more than likely won't know that the Super Sun would also be giving life to many others. Odin is a good guy, he wont' just kill millions of others to get a victory.

Originally posted by masterbruce
these powers are impressive, but they're not very useful in a fight? (ie Odin versus Thanos, Thanos also couldnt do most of the feats you've shown yet he pretty much stalemated Odin) Have you even read the fight?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I was arguing that Odin wasn't going all out. But many Forumers use that battle of THanos as a way to prove Thanos is this and that. SO I have to go by the forum and use that battle as well. The forum believes that Thanos gave Odin a hard time. No one would agree with me that thanos even standing was PIS so I will now use that fight with thanos to lesson Odin's power and thus say that Odin CANNOT beat SM1 with any kind of ease since SM1 is far superior to thanos. Odin more than likely won't know that the Super Sun would also be giving life to many others. Odin is a good guy, he wont' just kill millions of others to get a victory.

Nope wrong again, The poster were arguing that although Thanos was massively overpowered in that fight, his durability allowed him to survive, just as it has against Galactus, Tyrant, Omega, etc.

Why not, he's done so before.

Odin 10/10

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Have you even read the fight?

He hasn't

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Nope wrong again, The poster were arguing that although Thanos was massively overpowered in that fight, his durability allowed him to survive, just as it has against Galactus, Tyrant, Omega, etc.

Why not, he's done so before.

Odin 10/10

Thanos has NEVER survived against Galactus Nor Tyrant without some outside power up. NEVER. THanos had a shield that exerted Big G before big G ever got to thanos. you can best believe if there was no shield, thanos would have been a smolderng pile of Thanos ash. And Thanos was never fully attacked by Tyrant. Tyrant wasn't even shown excerting himself. The whole arc showed tyrant as playfully toying around. Any way, As long as Odin couldn't put down Thanos, I'm inclined to think SM1 can do even better than Thanos, since Sm1 is far superior to thanos.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Thanos has NEVER survived against Galactus Nor Tyrant without some outside power up. NEVER. THanos had a shield that exerted Big G before big G ever got to thanos. you can best believe if there was no shield, thanos would have been a smolderng pile of Thanos ash. And Thanos was never fully attacked by Tyrant. Tyrant wasn't even shown excerting himself. The whole arc showed tyrant as playfully toying around. Any way, As long as Odin couldn't put down Thanos, I'm inclined to think SM1 can do even better than Thanos, since Sm1 is far superior to thanos.

When character generates his own shield it's his power.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thanos%20Feats/tyrant83ga.jpg

Oh yeah he was playing

Originally posted by Soujaboy
When character generates his own shield it's his power.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thanos%20Feats/tyrant83ga.jpg

Oh yeah he was playing

Of course he was playing. Becuz Big G wanted no kind of fight with Tyrant. Tyrant with Big G destroyed countless galaxies. Tyrant was playing. He didn't want to destroy his ship or his cargo. He had a thing for morg or something lol.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Of course he was playing. Becuz Big G wanted no kind of fight with Tyrant. Tyrant with Big G destroyed countless galaxies. Tyrant was playing. He didn't want to destroy his ship or his cargo. He had a thing for morg or something lol.
Galactus one shoted Tyrant.

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Galactus one shoted Tyrant.

And that's why they destroyed countless worlds in previous battles? Post the scan of Big G one shotting Tyrant.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And that's why they destroyed countless worlds in previous battles? Post the scan of Big G one shotting Tyrant.

That was when Tyrant was supposed to be Galactus equal, that is no longer the case.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
That was when Tyrant was supposed to be Galactus equal, that is no longer the case.

If Tyrant was no longer Big G's equal or close to it, then how come Big G still didn't want to risk a fight with Tyrant and He let Tyrant keep morg. Even tho morg was special to him? HMMMMMM?

Superman 1 Million is pretty powerful but he isn't beating Odin.

These are some of his feats:

Trapping a spirit that tried to posses him.

http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/3996/dconemillion80pagegiantgq9.th.jpg

Supposedly immune to magic.

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/778/greenarrow100000016iq6.th.jpg

Holds back half a Galaxy.

http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/7241/dconemillion80pagegiantnm5.th.jpg

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/1149/dconemillion80pagegiantbg8.th.jpg

Powerful but not enough to beat Odin.

Odin takes this.

Superman 1 Million takes this, too fast too strong and overall too powerful, odins magic wont work on him since he got a good portion of the 5 IMP magic powers and 5 IMP owns the Odin force magic any given day

S1M RAPES

odin got stalemeted by surtur , owned by mangog and the dark gods, knocked down on his ass by thor , oh and 1 PIS feat of him shacking the multiverse 30 years ago Lol , he couldnt even ko thanos

1 Million is too powerful his only weakness is when he is away from the super sun other than that magic will never hurt him and nothing odin can do will hurt him,1 Million is a god in his own right, owning a high herald with breath, being able to destroy a giant red star with breath alone, punchig time 853 centeries into the future while weaken, holding back a galaxy, containing solar and cosmic explosions with his force field, Kal kent murders the old fool

Originally posted by Starscream M
these powers are impressive, but they're not very useful in a fight? (ie Odin versus Thanos, Thanos also couldnt do most of the feats you've shown yet he pretty much stalemated Odin)

Bingo. I have many talents but most are useless in a battle. Supes ftw

Originally posted by Galan007
Bottom line is that S1M's best feats are...

Controling the minds of a few beings, and punching through the time barrier.

anything else someone adds is pure speculation.

the bottom line is:
Odin's feats>S1M's feats



Galan's right.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank


Galan's right.

no he isnt

he forgot punching 853 centeries intothe future shacking the entire time line while being greatly depowered

he forgot owning a high herald with just a slight breath

he forgot being able to destroy a giant red star with only his breath

he forgot holding back a whole galaxy which is larger than our own

he forgot containing cosmic and galactic explosions without any effort

he forgot containing hourman 1 million in a force jacket

he forgot owning 3 beings who are validus level all at once

he forgot creating a 3.5 on the richter scale just by landing on the moon where the gravitation is twice weaker which means he can create 7 on the richter scale on earth just by landing

he forgot being faster than a speeding tachyon which is faster than speed of light, 1 million was so fast he was at several places at the same time when fixing the sheep and containing a nano explosion at the same time

Originally posted by red_turtle
no he isnt

he forgot punching 853 centeries intothe future shacking the entire time line while being greatly depowered

he forgot owning a high herald with just a slight breath

he forgot being able to destroy a giant red star with only his breath

he forgot holding back a whole galaxy which is larger than our own

he forgot containing cosmic and galactic explosions without any effort

he forgot containing hourman 1 million in a force jacket

he forgot owning 3 beings who are validus level all at once

he forgot creating a 3.5 on the richter scale just by landing on the moon where the gravitation is twice weaker which means he can create 7 on the richter scale on earth just by landing

he forgot being faster than a speeding tachyon which is faster than speed of light, 1 million was so fast he was at several places at the same time when fixing the sheep and containing a nano explosion at the same time

I trust Galan when it comes to DC related knowledge probably more than any other person here. And from what I myself have read on 1 Million, most of his feats, while good to great, don't really put him on a high Skyfather level. I get that he was weakened for a good deal of his feats and he doesn't have a lot of them to draw on and I also get that Odin has less than epic feats as well to balance out his truly extraordinary ones, but even if we take all of the above at face value, Odin has a laundry list of accomplishments and feats that compete with or outright succeed them.

And that multiversal shaking feat of Odin (though I'm not sure why it would be considered PIS?) was also performed when he was extremely weakened.

It's not really wanking Odin or Marvel or anything of the sort; it's just acknowledging what he's done.

jake, when has odin punched through time?

Originally posted by Starscream M
jake, when has odin punched through time?

when has S1mcause shock waves through out the Multiverse, when has SM! created Galaxies, When has S1M shook the universe, When did S1M destroy a whole of gods that rival Asgard and birth Mangog and resurrect the same race from the dead?





Yeah didn't think so!



at best S1M is a low sky father or high trans that's it, period!

The multiversal shaking feat should make him greater than or at least on par with an IG user. Absorbing part of the universe while asleep should put him above Galactus. Thanos should have died in 5 seconds and Galactus would never have dared to attack Asgard much less beat Odin. A feat no one mentions is that Superman 1 Million was Superman to a Universe full of Supermen.

Kal Kent is one of the first characters who taught me how much posters can truly oversell showings.

His best feat was the ambiguous Galaxy stopping feat (Which ironically shows a clear limitation) which is impressive but Odin takes puts him down. Effortlessly depending on the portrayal.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank


Galan's right.


I concur 100%, Galan is probable the least bias member on here, showing both sides and common sense!


If he says SM 1 million doesn't hold a candle to Odin, he doesn't!


If we go by feats Odin would one of the most powerful beings in Marvel, up there with Eternity, Infinity, Galactus and Celestials etc!

Odin wins based upon feats.

However, I think that based upon implied power SuperMan 1 Milion would win. 5D Imps should have enough power to turn Odin or any skyfather into a Chicken if they want and he has 5D Powers although likely they will never be seen used since it would make for a boring story is SuperMan snapped his fingers and ended any battle in 1 panel.

Originally posted by red_turtle
no he isnt

he forgot punching 853 centeries intothe future shacking the entire time line while being greatly depowered

he forgot owning a high herald with just a slight breath

he forgot being able to destroy a giant red star with only his breath

he forgot holding back a whole galaxy which is larger than our own

he forgot containing cosmic and galactic explosions without any effort

he forgot containing hourman 1 million in a force jacket

he forgot owning 3 beings who are validus level all at once

he forgot creating a 3.5 on the richter scale just by landing on the moon where the gravitation is twice weaker which means he can create 7 on the richter scale on earth just by landing

he forgot being faster than a speeding tachyon which is faster than speed of light, 1 million was so fast he was at several places at the same time when fixing the sheep and containing a nano explosion at the same time

Odin didn't have to punch a time, he simply put his hand on that person and sent them into the future. Even Loki has performed such a time feat of sending Bor into the future and Loki's magic below Odin's.

Odin one-shots heralds all the damn time. Surfer is the highest of the herald tier and Odin dismissed him in one shot. While weakened, he one shot Ulik and Annihilus.

SM1 held back a galaxy? WTF? HAHAHAAHA Odin trapped Surtur just by raising his hand. He's stalemated him other times. When SM1 can destroy a galaxy with his power than you have an argument. How is temporarily holding back a galaxy a feat comparable to destroying a galaxy? Surtur would wreck SM1, so would Seth, so would Forsung, so would Infinity, and so would Odin since he's beaten all these people who've wrecked galaxies and shook the cosmos.

LOL, he beat three beings Validus level? So? Odin drained a death god dry of power.

SM1 landed and created an quake? Your point? Hulk's cracked the Eastern Coast's plate just by taking steps. He ran into Zeus and got the beating of a lifetime; Zeus has about 1/4 number of decent feats to Odin's.

SM1 is faster than speeding tachyons? So what? Odin and Forsung flew across from one side of the universe to the other and ended in a few panel with Odin and a dead Forsung back in Asgard.

http://comiccoverage.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8345158e369e20115704001eb970c-450wi
http://comiccoverage.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8345158e369e2011571356f6f970b-450wi

That super sun is going to be destroyed in their fight or SM1 ends up being dragged into a few red stars. Odin wins, too powerful. SM1 has nothing on Odin. Momentarily holding a galaxy isn't destroying one.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Kal Kent is one of the first characters who taught me how much posters can truly oversell showings.

His best feat was the ambiguous Galaxy stopping feat (Which ironically shows a clear limitation) which is impressive but Odin takes puts him down. Effortlessly depending on the portrayal. odin struggled to put thanos down. sm1m would thrash thanos.

Originally posted by Starscream M
odin struggled to put thanos down. sm1m would thrash thanos.

Was written by Starlin and Odin still kicked his ass. Thanos couldn't even move Odin. Your point?

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Was written by Starlin and Odin still kicked his ass. Thanos couldn't even move Odin. Your point?


He doesn't, he's trolling! Thanos couldn't even faze him like WhiteWitchKing said, what's your point beside trolling!

Odin for the stomp

Odin will win but it's no stomp.

Originally posted by the Darkone
when has S1mcause shock waves through out the Multiverse, when has SM! created Galaxies, When has S1M shook the universe, When did S1M destroy a whole of gods that rival Asgard and birth Mangog and resurrect the same race from the dead?





Yeah didn't think so!



at best S1M is a low sky father or high trans that's it, period!

Superman 1 million while greatly depowered caused shockwaves thruought the entire timeline by punching it , its reasnable to say if he is full power he can do things much more powerful than this, now to udress the universal shock its a PIS feat that was done only once when marvel didnt establish the characters power , since then odin never was able to do such a thing even when he went all out like with galactusrecently , he couldnt even knock out or faze thanos

how is ressurecting someone equels fighting might?

when didodin held an entire galaxy bigger than our own thatwas charging at him? when didodin punched time while being depowered greatly and caused shockwaves and bruised the time?
when was odin at several places at the same time?
when didodin tank a cosmic blast with his force field without noticing that?
a high herald knocked odin on his ass , and dont even start about magic because 5 IMP owns the living crap out of the odin force

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Odin didn't have to punch a time, he simply put his hand on that person and sent them into the future. Even Loki has performed such a time feat of sending Bor into the future and Loki's magic below Odin's.

Odin one-shots heralds all the damn time. Surfer is the highest of the herald tier and Odin dismissed him in one shot. While weakened, he one shot Ulik and Annihilus.

SM1 held back a galaxy? WTF? HAHAHAAHA Odin trapped Surtur just by raising his hand. He's stalemated him other times. When SM1 can destroy a galaxy with his power than you have an argument. How is temporarily holding back a galaxy a feat comparable to destroying a galaxy? Surtur would wreck SM1, so would Seth, so would Forsung, so would Infinity, and so would Odin since he's beaten all these people who've wrecked galaxies and shook the cosmos.

LOL, he beat three beings Validus level? So? Odin drained a death god dry of power.

SM1 landed and created an quake? Your point? Hulk's cracked the Eastern Coast's plate just by taking steps. He ran into Zeus and got the beating of a lifetime; Zeus has about 1/4 number of decent feats to Odin's.

SM1 is faster than speeding tachyons? So what? Odin and Forsung flew across from one side of the universe to the other and ended in a few panel with Odin and a dead Forsung back in Asgard.

http://comiccoverage.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8345158e369e20115704001eb970c-450wi
http://comiccoverage.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8345158e369e2011571356f6f970b-450wi

That super sun is going to be destroyed in their fight or SM1 ends up being dragged into a few red stars. Odin wins, too powerful. SM1 has nothing on Odin. Momentarily holding a galaxy isn't destroying one.

you got reading comprehension problems? i posted before that superman 1 million is able to travel dimensions and the time line at his will, he even tookbatman to thefifth dimension along with superboy and the entire superman squad, superman 1 million was greatly depowered and lost all his powers including even theability tofly so thatswhy he had to use his final powers and he used a bruth strength to bust the hell out of time that alone puts him >>>odin

he one shots heralds all the time? he failed to one shot thor who knocked him on his ass, he couldnt do anything to thanos i know thanos is trans but just sayin, superman 1 million owned a high herald with just his breath with no effor t at all and he was stated as being able to defeat all superman foes with no effort

stopping a charging galaxy is much harder than just to destroy it, cyclops can bust up a mountain... can he stop a charging mountain? those are different powers and different abilities superman 1 million displayed insane powers he can destroya giant red star with only his breath but in order to stop a galaxy he couldnt use a destruction ability since he would just whipe out a galaxy so he had to use some other power that could stop the galaxy and in this case it was his force vision but if he wanted to destroy that galaxyit would be much easier

surtur , seth, forsung, infinity will all fall down tosuperman 1million based on feats and statements from writers

as i was saying again superman 1 million created that quake while being greatly depowered, you see thats what seperating people who read and understand comics from mooks like you that only look at the pictures ... all the uber feats 1 million had were performed while he is greatly depowered

if yopu want to compare speed show me odin being at several places at the same exactly time because superman 1 million was and he was fixing a sheep while bisabling a nano second exploding bomb thats how insanly fast he is now show me odin does that

superman 1 million had durability agility sppeed and strength over odin .. and probably some magic as well since you know 5 IMP >>> odin force , the super sun wont be destroyed odin is fighting 1 million not the sun and even ifit does it takes him some time to lose the powers and its way too much time for him to destroy odin, odin is an old guy a very very powerful one but overall he is an old guy see how thor knocked him on his ass and see how badly he is injured after galactus, 1 million is a beast with insane abilities he tops odin easily

^ so who CAN beat 1M iyo?

Odin wins via transmuting the battlefield into kryptonite. Easy-peasy.

Listen, S1M is a powerhouse... But a high-end Skyfather+, he is not.

Originally posted by Galan007
Odin wins via transmuting the battlefield into kryptonite. Easy-peasy.

Listen, S1M is a powerhouse... But a high-end Skyfather+, he is not.

shhhhh..... i know that, and YOU know that. i wanted to see what HE thought and just how far he was willing to take it. it's one of my favourite games....

Heh, leo likes playing with his food. ermm13


Anyway, I still say Odin should just transmute the field into k-nite... It's worked before, after all:

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/3930/19258098.th.jpg

Admittedly, I'm not 100% sure how k-nite would affect S1M if he were under the light of the Super-Sun--but considering the weakness to kryptonite apparently still applied to Goldie Prime himself (even with his Source-gleaned powers/15,000 years in the sun), I'm confident that it'd kill S1M as well.

Originally posted by Galan007
Odin wins via transmuting the battlefield into kryptonite. Easy-peasy.

Listen, S1M is a powerhouse... But a high-end Skyfather+, he is not.



Majority everybody agrees with you Galan,ok almost everybody !



There are just a fanboy trying pump up SM1 up to Odin level where he doesn't belong and facts prove it, some body is twisting it to prove his point , and it's not working!


And nobody agrees with him, he throw insults like a two in the grocery store!



Like you said Odin transmute the battlefield into Kryptonite, and cut SM1 from the big Sun.

Originally posted by leonidas
^ so who CAN beat 1M iyo?

brought a lot of info on a character with limited appearances.

He is also correct in regards moving vs destroying. Monarch destroyed the entire universe, is he powerful enough to move it?

This guy dug deep into the story, not just pictures and diaglog but also the context behind it Superman 1 million did all of these while depowered.

Originally posted by Galan007
Heh, leo likes playing with his food. ermm13


Anyway, I still say Odin should just transmute the field into k-nite... It's worked before, after all:

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/3930/19258098.th.jpg

Admittedly, I'm not 100% sure how k-nite would affect S1M if he were under the light of the Super-Sun--but considering the weakness to kryptonite apparently still applied to Goldie Prime himself (even with his Source-gleaned powers/15,000 years in the sun), I'm confident that it'd kill S1M as well.

kal kent is immune to Krytonite and red sun radiation/light and Magic. They made this guy outrageously powerful.

Also can't bfr someone who can cross dimensions and shatter the time barrier. If they fight away from the supersun, Odin will have a chance to outlast him otherwise Odin loses

Apparently you didn't actually look at the scan. S1M is very susceptible to the affects of k-nite. Had Batman 1M not transmuted the field into coal in the subsequent page, the k-nite would have killed Supes.

...And that was after only a few seconds of exposure. srsly

Originally posted by Galan007
Apparently you didn't actually look at the scan. S1M is very susceptible to the affects of k-nite. Had Batman 1M not transmuted the field into coal in the subsequent page, the k-nite would have killed Supes.

...And that was after only a few seconds of exposure. srsly

and this is where you fail galan... what did i say about reading the actual story? superman 1 million is imune to magic and to kryptonite the only reason he got hurt by that kryptonite was because he wasnt under the super sun and there for he began losing his power , under the super sun it would never effect him as was stated he is imune to kryptonite and has no weaknesses

Originally posted by Galan007
Heh, leo likes playing with his food. ermm13


Anyway, I still say Odin should just transmute the field into k-nite... It's worked before, after all:

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/3930/19258098.th.jpg

Admittedly, I'm not 100% sure how k-nite would affect S1M if he were under the light of the Super-Sun--but considering the weakness to kryptonite apparently still applied to Goldie Prime himself (even with his Source-gleaned powers/15,000 years in the sun), I'm confident that it'd kill S1M as well.

superman 1 million is imune to kryptonite as was stated in the storyline and as is stated in the handbooks he doesnt have weaknesses , the only reason the kryptonite effected him in this scene is because he wasnt under the super sun which means he was losing his powers

superman 1 million has the blood of the 5 IMP dimension queen , he has total imunity to kryptonite, magic, red sun, and basically doesnt have any weaknesses.. if you dont know this simple fact you better stop pretending like you know both characters and debating equaly because you are either A dont know 1 million or B know that but you are trying to twist things up just to win some debate

Originally posted by leonidas
^ so who CAN beat 1M iyo?

2 million

Originally posted by red_turtle
superman 1 million is imune to kryptonite as was stated in thestoryline and as is stated in the handbooks he doesnt have weaknesses , theonly reasonthekryptonite effected him in thisscene is because he wasnt under the super sun whichmeans he was losing his powers

So his weakness is being away from the supersun or it being destroyed. Odin either drags him away from it, destroy as a side effect as usually hapens, or he attacks it directly. Um yeah, Odin wins. Or he transmutes it into kryptonite.

Odin wins.

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
So his weakness is being away from the supersun or it being destroyed. Odin either drags him away from it, destroy as a side effect as usually hapens, or he attacks it directly. Um yeah, Odin wins. Or he transmutes it into kryptonite.

Odin wins.

odin wont know about this, even if he knows 1 million will never give him a chance do doit, 1 million is a telepath he will know what odin is up toand counter that by defending the super sun with his force field and own odin, and no odin drug 1 million from the super sun because 1 million can also apear and teleport where he wants so it wont work, odin cant do anything against 1 million

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
So his weakness is being away from the supersun or it being destroyed. Odin either drags him away from it, destroy as a side effect as usually hapens, or he attacks it directly. Um yeah, Odin wins. Or he transmutes it into kryptonite.

Odin wins.

By feats Odin wins but there is no reason to think Odin can do Anything to the Sun. Even if Odin changes it, Super Man blinks his eye and uses his 5 D Imp Powers to restore it.

Originally posted by BullwinkleMoose
By feats Odin wins but there is no reason to think Odin can do Anything to the Sun. Even if Odin changes it, Super Man blinks his eye and uses his 5 D Imp Powers to restore it.

No reason to think a guy that beat galaxy busters and have busted galaxies can destroy a sun? Lol. Great logic. Odin teleports the super sun into another dimension for lol.

Yes, because SM1 defeated Solaris by blinking at him. He blinked again and ressurected Lois and Krypton. Let's ignore the fact that he actually isn't a full blooded Imp and performed feats on the level of what your saying.

Odin will know SM1 weakness, Odin is Omniscient and Omnipotent, hell Odin will transmute SM1 outfit into kryptonite, or disperse his molecule across the cosmos!

Originally posted by red_turtle
superman 1 million is imune to kryptonite as was stated in the storyline No. It wasn't.

In fact, the scene I posted entirely contradicts the notion that S1M is immune to k-nite. none

Originally posted by the Darkone
Odin will know SM1 weakness, Odin is Omniscient and Omnipotent, hell Odin will transmute SM1 outfit into kryptonite, or disperse his molecule across the cosmos!

Lol superman 1 million has 5 IMP powers and 5 IMP is >> odin foce,any foolcan tellyou that the 5 IMP magic is greater than odin forceyou fail and odin will fail as well

Originally posted by Galan007
No. It wasn't.

In fact, the scene I posted entirely contradicts the notion that S1M is immune to k-nite. none

come on galan i always saw you as a decent poster dont ruin it because of this thread, its a well known fact 1 million was effected by this kryptonite because he was away from the super sun, it was also stated at the beginning of the 1 million arc that superman 1 million doesnt have any wekness and that he is imune to kryptonite so stop this circus

SM1 million has almost nothing tangible to compare him to anyone.

Originally posted by red_turtle
Lol superman 1 million has 5 IMP powers and 5 IMP is >> odin foce,any foolcan tellyou that the 5 IMP magic is greater than odin forceyou fail and odin will fail as well Yes because he had 5d imp level feats .

firstly, can someone show me where he actually moved a galaxy? because these scans really don't support that conclusion at all.

here he approaches and says he needs to try and hold the 2 galaxies apart:

http://imageshack.us/f/542/dc100000080pggiant6667a.jpg/

then, here, he says even HE can't hold back the weight of a galaxy, though he is trying (to what degree he is succeeding is NOT shown or alluded to at all...):

http://imageshack.us/f/15/dc100000080pggiant69.jpg/

and here, he receives help, and says that the only chance to avert the disaster is if they work together:

http://imageshack.us/f/508/dc100000080pggiant70.jpg/

so, where did he actually hold back.....anything? he TRIED, admitted he couldn't, got help. if i'm missing something, someone please fill me in.

as for the fight, common knowledge is given to each, so odin would know about the supersun. i'd also LOVE PROOF of SM1M actually USING these 'imp' powers he is supposed to have. anyone? i'd also love to know what level solaris must have been at because he was owning not just the jla1M but pretty well the whole 1M universe. is he.... abstract level? and what about the other villains in the 1M universe? are they ALL skyfathers? mongul must be higher, because he was still around. why wouldn't SM1M just use his imp powers and wipe him out?

this is what happens ALL the time when too much credence is given to a character. it leads to this infinite fallacy. hell, based on this, it might be possible that SM1M could even beat...........flash. or...............................................................................zoom. shock

Originally posted by leonidas
firstly, can someone show me where he actually moved a galaxy? because these scans really don't support that conclusion at all.

here he approaches and says he needs to try and hold the 2 galaxies apart:

http://imageshack.us/f/542/dc100000080pggiant6667a.jpg/

then, here, he says even HE can't hold back the weight of a galaxy, though he is trying (to what degree he is succeeding is NOT shown or alluded to at all...):

http://imageshack.us/f/15/dc100000080pggiant69.jpg/

and here, he receives help, and says that the only chance to avert the disaster is if they work together:

http://imageshack.us/f/508/dc100000080pggiant70.jpg/

so, where did he actually hold back.....anything? he TRIED, admitted he couldn't, got help. if i'm missing something, someone please fill me in.

as for the fight, common knowledge is given to each, so odin would know about the supersun. i'd also LOVE PROOF of SM1M actually USING these 'imp' powers he is supposed to have. anyone? i'd also love to know what level solaris must have been at because he was owning not just the jla1M but pretty well the whole 1M universe. is he.... abstract level? and what about the other villains in the 1M universe? are they ALL skyfathers? mongul must be higher, because he was still around. why wouldn't SM1M just use his imp powers and wipe him out?

this is what happens ALL the time when too much credence is given to a character. it leads to this infinite fallacy. hell, based on this, it might be possible that SM1M could even beat...........flash. or...............................................................................zoom. shock


The way red turtle is talking, he's acting like SM1 can even beat DONG Infinity Man, since SM1 has imp blood, which doesn't guarantee a victory!

Even though the idiot is banned, I'd still like to mention that just because S1M gained 10 new imp-like senses from the imp bloodline, doesn't make his powers remotely close to those of an actual 5-D imp by default. If that were the case then he could have stopped the galaxy, put it inside of a soda can, drank it, then shit it back to it's original position in space.

...But instead he struggled to merely slow it down a smidge. none

Originally posted by Galan007
Even though the idiot is banned, I'd still like to mention that just because S1M gained 10 new imp-like senses from the imp bloodline, doesn't make his powers remotely close to those of an actual 5-D imp by default. If that were the case then he could have stopped the galaxy, put it inside of a soda can, drank it, then shit it back to it's original position in space.

...But instead he struggled to merely slow it down a smidge. none

he got banned??? damnation.....

^ yeah, in the end he still owned you. evillaugh

nuts

Originally posted by Galan007
Even though the idiot is banned, I'd still like to mention that just because S1M gained 10 new imp-like senses from the imp bloodline, doesn't make his powers remotely close to those of an actual 5-D imp by default. If that were the case then he could have stopped the galaxy, put it inside of a soda can, drank it, then shit it back to it's original position in space.

...But instead he struggled to merely slow it down a smidge. none

You are right and wrong here. You are right that we do not have tangible feats about the extent of his 5D Powers. That being said, it would make for a pretty boring story if he had snapped his fingers to end the threat in 1 panel and comics are indeed pretty infamous for having charcters forget to use their powers at varying times.

Until we get more feats it is all more about implied powers.

Originally posted by BullwinkleMoose
You are right and wrong here. You are right that we do not have tangible feats about the extent of his 5D Powers. That being said, it would make for a pretty boring story if he had snapped his fingers to end the threat in 1 panel and comics are indeed pretty infamous for having charcters forget to use their powers at varying times.

Until we get more feats it is all more about implied powers. ...And never once was it so much as alluded to that S1M possesses the same powerset as an actual 5D imp. The fact that he was unable to slow/stop a forward-moving galaxy (despite his best efforts), or contain Solaris without Kyle's construct already in place, is proof enough of that.

Hell, even Goldie Prime himself needed the help of an actual imp just to resurrect Lois.

So one of Supermans family members ****ed an Imp eh?

It all depends in how good Supes 1M is at resisting headbutts.

me am disappoint the turtle is gone......

bring him back pr! anyone galan resorts to calling an idiot can only be a wide-spread source of forum entertainment!

Originally posted by leonidas
me am disappoint the turtle is gone......

bring him back pr! anyone galan resorts to calling an idiot can only be a wide-spread source of forum entertainment!


Preach it !