Batdude's Tourney Match #4

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batdude123

batdude123
Darthgoober/BB's opening statement:

batdude123
DL/LL's opening statement:

Devil Lance
well seeing how our team is invisble I don't think your startegy wiill work.

Your tyeam won't know who to attaack and will waste time destroying the illusions on the battle field. Letting us get in a surprise omni directional attack on your team from quasar who shileds our team from it http://img366.imageshack.us/my.php?image=avengers338047qu.jpg stunning them and knocking them down

allowing our team to get the matchups we want

Mangog vs Superadaptoid (Dr Druid)
Dr. D is pretty powerull but his durability isn't that great so Quasar's blast should hurt him alot.

Now since Dr. D is stunned for a while it will give Mangog the time to get a ton of hits in seeing how fast his blows can be

http://www.picsaway.com/view/thor_vol2_526_024_17-71c6c48845.jpg

that barrage of blows pretty much puts Super Adaptoid down for the count given Dr. D's poor durability and Mangog's amazing strength.
After this Mangog goes to help one of his teamates.

Shaman X-man vs Despero
I'll let Lucid explain this one

Quasar vs AM

Quasar has dealt with AM before when he was very inexperienced and still won that fight. Now he's way more experienced so this fight should be easy.

First of Quasar teleports Absorb Man's ball and chain. Then he puts AM in a series of 7 or 8 constraints and bubbles like these
http://img359.imageshack.us/my.php?image=quasar033169iy.jpg

http://img480.imageshack.us/my.php?image=quasar38147lm.jpg

http://img480.imageshack.us/my.php?image=quasar38147lm.jpg

now if AM tries something stupid like becomeing the construct enrgy Quasar will just do to am what he did to the Living Laser vacum him away

http://img177.imageshack.us/my.php?image=quasar60096kc.jpg

http://img177.imageshack.us/my.php?image=quasar60108uj.jpg

so either AM is sttuck in a series o fquantam bubbles and constraints or if he trys to become the construct enrgy either way he'll lose eventually whtehe rit be by quasar him self or with some help from Mangog amd X-ma once there done with ttheir opponents.
Thers no way Am would be able to take Quasar and Mangog at the same time

Lucid Lui
Ooh, nice strategy guys. Should be a good match. Good luck. smile


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Ok, Lucid Post #1.
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The problem here is, our team doesn't approach. We teleport in, we're invisible and we're Psi-Shielded. And there's multiple "telemorphic manifestations" scattered around the battle field that you're gonna be thinking is us, at least for a few seconds.



With barely any experience in the use of his powers, X-Man was able to shield his presence from Exodus, a top level telepath. Shaman X-Man is at full potential in the use of his powers, and has the skill to back it up. He will be able to shield his presence from Despero and Adaptoid. At least long enough to do what he needs to do (not to mention, X-Man's invisible and they're are multiple illusions to distract their team).
1. http://img234.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shieldingpresence01zj9.jpg

A case certainly could be made, but that's not how this is going down. Since you guys are making no effort to hide from us, and basically waiting for us to arrive, it just makes this whole thing easier.

The split second we've teleported to your location X-man then teleports Despero a good distance underground. Not into a cavern or anything, he's teleporting him into solid ground, effectivelly taking him out of the fight. This takes a second or two at most.
1. http://img62.imageshack.us/my.php?image=teleportation01qw1.jpg
2. http://img62.imageshack.us/my.php?image=teleportation02vv9.jpg

Adaptoid's not going to get a chance to attack X-Man in any way (if he did somehow manage to find him), because the split second we've landed, Mangog has started pounding into him so fast, with his massive strength augmented even further by the Quantum armour and telepathic power-up he recieved earlier.
1. http://img62.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thorvol25260241771c6c48vs0.jpg
Now, for those not familiar with Mangog, i suggest you read his bio to get a look at just how powerful he is. There's no way Adaptoid will be able to last with the beating he's receiving from an invisible, enhanced Mangog. And X-Man, having dealt with Despero, will be there to help if Mangog needs it (which he won't).

Meanwhile, Quasar has been dealing with Absorbing Man, and if he hasn't finished by this point, the numbers advantage has shifted solidly in our favour, and we proceed to double team him.

Quick Summary
1. Our invisible, armoured and Psi-Shielded team teleports right to our opponents location, while they are distracted by various illusions.
2. X-Man teleports Despero into solid ground.
3. Adaptoid is taken down down by an immense amount of blows from one of, if not the, strongest characters in this tournament (Mangog).
4. X-Man and Mangog proceed to help Quasar if he needs it.

Lucid Lui
NON-OFFICIAL POST
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Just re-posting the relevant X-Man/Mangog scans that aren't working in our initial prep post. DL will fill in the Quasar ones.
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X-Man's Psi-Shielding...
1. http://img76.imageshack.us/my.php?image=psishields01gh5.jpg

X-Man's telekinetic armour...
1. http://img214.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tkarmour01cq4.jpg
2. http://img214.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tkarmour02vr8.jpg

Mangog feeds on hate...
1. http://img214.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thor1980686fa9d770dbs7.jpg

Invisibility...
1. http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=invisibility01jb5.jpg

Devil Lance
unoffcial post
here are the scans from my intial write up since apparently they don't work
Quasar then absorbs as much energy as possible from the environment and any distant energy sources, which powers him up.
http://img128.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img128&image=star.jpg

X-Man is creating extremely powerful Psi-Shields in Mangog's mind protecting him from any telepathic attacks. This, as shown in the scan, takes only a few seconds. (The 12 telepaths in the scan below, together they were powerful enough to travel between realities. Their shields are nothing compared to X-Mans.)
http://img76.imageshack.us/my.php?image=psishields01gh5.jpg

X-Man then creates durable telekinetic armour for the group
http://img214.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tkarmour01cq4.jpg
http://img214.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tkarmour02vr8.jpg

Quasar creates Quantum armour constructs for the whole team (on top of X-Man's telekinteic armour). He'll spend most of the 10 minutes minutes doing this. The longer Quasar spends on constructs the stronger and more durable they become, (an armour construct which he created in seconds withstood multiple blasts from Silver Surfer) so these armours will be extremely durable.

http://img277.imageshack.us/my.php?image=quasar050343zo.jpg
http://img277.imageshack.us/my.php?image=quasar050375su.jpg

From the earlier telepathic connection X-Man knows that Mangog has the power of a billion billion beings and he feeds on hate (see scan below), so he proceeds to telepathically feed him that emotion personified for the next few minutes, powering his already formidable strength and durability up to immense levels.
http://img214.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thor1980686fa9d770dbs7.jpg


Now with our team standing fully armoured and ready to fight, Both X-Man and Quasar deflect the light around the team effectively making them invisible.
http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=invisibility01jb5.jpg

The second the fight starts X-Man will create illusions scattered around the battle field. Some of these illusions will be of the people on our team, and some will be of various baddies and allies he or his allies have met throughout the years.
http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xman1913iw5.jpg

darthgoober

bigbran

Devil Lance

darthgoober

Devil Lance

DigiMark007
DL, the scans of the Despero vs. Aqua/MM fight aren't working.

Devil Lance
Originally posted by DigiMark007
DL, the scans of the Despero vs. Aqua/MM fight aren't working.

Unoffcial post
oops heres the link to the page that has the scans
the aquaman vs despero fight scans are under aquaman despero
http://www.comicboards.com/dcb/view.php?trd=051018011425

bigbran
Post #2 - Response to Devil Lance.
(damn character limits)
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OK, now where is your proof that Mangog is invisible?
I gave you why he won't be, but I am supposed to take your word that he will be invisible?
OK, here again is why he won't be:

X-Man hasn't demonstrated that he can do that for anyone else. As far as we know from those scans, is that his power was continually working for him to be like that.

And, he can indeed turn Mangog invisible, but for it to keep working, he would need to be really close, or hold hands with X-Man for the whole time.

X-Man distorts the light around himself, not others.

Now, I haven't seen proof that Quaser can do it, but it would be OK if he could. Doesn't matter either way.

Also, how are they going to distort the light around the shields you put up?

So, Mangog is visible, and he is vunerable.
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I don't need to prove that he is as powerful as her (even though he is most likely). Quaser didn't say anything about how powerful the magic had to be, he said he was useless against magic.

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/6450/magicvulnerability2qc2.jpg
Now, that Quaser's useless against magic, we know that AM will be taking him out. What is Dr. Druid's type of attacks, you ask?

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/103/mindfreezedetailedjh6.jpg
Yes, magic (you also overlooked this part in the prep phase).

Also, my guy will be continually hitting him, not just once, until he goes down. Quaser won't be taking too many magic mind blasts, until he goes down.
Even if he takes the first one I will be dishing out, I will hit him again, and again, until he taste dirt.
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We know he can take telepathy.
Those scans were irrelevent.
But, I find it interesting how his Quantum Bands project a psi-block.
Those same things can't take magic.
So, when I cream him with my telepathy, those psi-blocks will be hindered non-existing, and I won't just be hitting him with magic, I will be hitting him with the full force of my attack too.
So, he should be going down in the first attack, but if by some miracle he stands, he is gone in the next one.
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You also forget that two of the characters I can use (Darth will deal with Despero), are made out of Cap's shield material. His shield absorbs attacks through it's vibranium.
His omni-attack, will at best, get their attention.
Even if it gets more than that, your whole strategy behind it was to put Mangog in a position to hammer on SA (which I will get to later), nothing really more with it. It won't hurt our guys like you think, and you also forgot that as soon as the battle started, you guys were busy making illusions, and then you were going to suprise us with an omni-blast, when we were fighting those illusions (in which we already disproved them working against us).
So, how are we not going to be ready for that omni-blast again?
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OK, I know Quaser has absorbed him, but you are forgetting that Thor has also absorbed a simular thing (a blast that would destroy a 5th of the universe to be exact). While Thor was able to do that, he was still overloaded by his own energy that came out of the hammer.

Also I gave Quaser absorbing AM as a hypothical situation, in which I turned into your energy, and tried to escape. You said you would absorb me (in which I disproved).
You forgot that as soon as you put me in a bubble (which is still highly unlikely), I would be mindraping you. As soon as you come near AM (or when you try that suprise omni-blast that won't work), you will be attacked mentally.
So, Quaser goes down, and I still have counters to your other attacks, if they somehow went that way.
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Funny, I won't be trying to break the bubble with brute strength, I'm not stupid.
If I turn into that bubbles properties, I can easily phase through it.
I will only break out of it (if you get me in it), after I dispose of Quaser, which won't take long.
Also, do Quaser's bubbles last after he gets KOed? (because then I wouldn't even have to use a second or two of my time)
Either way though, I'm not staying in a bubble, if you get me in it.
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What do your reflexes have to do with getting attacked mentally?
Also, when I'm using my speed, I won't have my back turned agaisnt you, and I won't be running around you. So, those scans, still don't prove your getting me in a bubble.

Unless your talking about a bubble, in which it doesn't matter if you get me in a bubble or not.
Also, I have Despero's speed to help protect me against him getting me in a bubble. I'm not going to be going fast the entire time, just to avoid your attacks.

Plus, you forgot that I would attack you as soon as you were matched up against me, so that would mean, that while you were trying to do your omni-blast (bad move on your part), I would hit you hard with a magic mental attack.
So, you most likely, won't even get the chance to try to get me in a bubble. But, if you do, I will avoid it. But if it does hit me, I won't care.

But again, it doesn't matter if it works or not, because Quaser is still going down. Then it is simply a matter of getting out (if you get me in it), and going to help one of my teammates.
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Yes, his FISTS were moving fast, not his BODY. He has to get close to get the chance to pummel on SA.

It won't work. The omni-blast is to get Mangog in the position to hammer on SA, who is still made out of Cap's shield.
At first you thought we were only as durible as Dr. Druid, in which you probably would have beat SA good, but no, he is as durible as Cap's shield, so it doesn't matter if it works or not. Your not putting him down like Thor went down in those scans.
Also, in those scans, Mangog cheap shotted Thor (it's not the greatest speed feat in which this happened). You won't get the same chance that Mangog had on Thor (mostly due to the omni-blast not working out as planned). But even if you did, Cap's shield is way more durible than just Thor.

So since, the omni-blast won't be stunning our characters like you though, Mangog won't be in the position that he got on Thor.
Even if it did, my guy is more than durible enough to take a few.

Also, since I have Despero's speed, Mangog will also have another way of not landing those hits.
His fists may be fast against an unsuspecting fighter, but he still isn't hitting our guy.

And since it will probably end up in a stalemate, it's all a matter of AM coming out to double team Mangog (since Darth will most likely not need help).

Mangog goes down, and if Darth's guy is still fighting X-Man (probably not), we will triple-team X-Man, and we win.
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Originally posted by Devil Lance
Now on to Mangog vs SA
Mangog is not limited to close range attacks he also can fire enrgy blasts so we don't have to worry about SA absorbingMangog's tk armor or Quantam Armor. Except that you said that Mangog would be pounding on SA.
Are you changing strategy?

Also, Mangog is a complete physical combatant.
He may have some lang range attacks, but he isn't going to pass up hitting his attacker.

So basically, now you want Mangog to go out of character and back away to fire long range attacks, cause that is the only way he is avoiding getting his amour absorbed.

Those won't work either, and after AM is done with Quaser, he is in a world of hurting.
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Originally posted by Devil Lance
It was a suprise attack he'd be too surpised by the shock of the opening attack he wouldn't be reayd for an attack from behind . When in the opening post, did you guys say that you were attacking us from behind?
You said you would teleport, but I don't remember from behind.
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So:

Quaser can't absorb AM (irrelevent, since I won't give him the chance to try).

AM's mind attacks are more than enough to take out Quaser.

Mangog ISN'T invisible unless we take your word for it... Mangog is right out there in the open the whole time. Unless you can somehow prove otherwise.

Why would it matter if we were faster than you, we never claimed to be. Just claimed to avoid a bubble (doesn't matter if it lands, I'm still taking out Quaser), or avoid Mangog (doesn't matter if you land, you aren't getting the chance to attack us like you said, and if you do, SA is more durible than Thor by a long shot). But, we might just very well be faster than you. Still doesn't really matter either way though.

No, no, no, if they do land, after I take out Quaser, I can break out of them in seconds. And, you think I will just use physical attacks, but I have other ways (as I said).
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So, for my part (I already debunked what you said):

I will attack Quaser as soon as he comes near to pull off something (omni-blast), which should take him down. But if not, another mind attack will take him down for sure.

The omni-blast won't be as effective as you guys first thought. Two of our guys are made out of Cap's shield (I'll let Darth deal with Depsero).
Which will severely cut the effectiveness of you attack.

SA won't be suprised from the omni-blast. And after it, he will avoid Mangog's attack. Or if they land, SA is durible enough to take it.
Plus, Mangog's fists are only fast, not his whole body, so that will also go against it, unless SA is a foot away from him (but I got speed on my side too).

Quaser won't trap AM in a bubble. Right after (or before) the omni-blast he also has to deal with AM's magic based telepathy. Plus, he also has to deal with AM's speed. So he won't be getting him in it.
But like I said before, it doesn't matter if he does or not, so that is useless.

So, after that, AM will go double team Mangog. After we take out Mangog, it could quite possibly be a triple team on X-Man.
Then we take it.

Devil Lance
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dl post 4

did you look at any of previous posts

A. AM is nowehre near as fast as Quasar
B. Dr Druids "telepathic" powers are not magic based as they were there even before he learned magic they were just latent untill Tibetan lama unlocked them
http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/d/drdruid.htm
So DR. Druiods telepathic powers ra enot derived from magic making his tgp attacks useless against Quasar.
Anways Enchnatress is not a telepath and just used a mind control spell on Quasra which he was able to snap himself out of in a short time since his quantam bands have saftety measures against magical attacks aswell.
You have no proof that
A. Dr. Druids telpathy is magical in nature or
B. His power is anywhere near the power of Enchantress whose "Spell" Quasar was able to breal free from.
C. Enchantress was using magical tp against Quasr which she wasn't she was just using a speel which is alot different from Dr. Druids non magical tp

So there goers that startegy down the drain.
and Quasar can absorb AM
Ego the Living Planet> AM
not to mention the fact that Quasar absorbs stars in seconds
http://img386.imageshack.us/my.php?image=quasar160332nx.jpg

so your telepathy won't work
Quasar can bsorb AM
and you will get hit by my teams surpise attack

darthgoober

darthgoober
Unofficial

I was just informed that three of my links showing Despero's durability aren't working, so here they are....

http://img183.imageshack.us/my.php?image=desperoliftingtherockofgm2.jpg
http://img74.imageshack.us/my.php?image=desperoliftingtherockofzp0.jpg

http://img226.imageshack.us/my.php?image=desperovsjlaiw6.jpg

batdude123
The judges for this match are:

Accel
Badabing
Galan007
marvelprince

LORDSIDIOUS01
The Others win.

Soljer
Originally posted by LORDSIDIOUS01
The Others win.

It'd be appreciated if you refrained from the spam.

Thanks.

bigbran
So, before I respond, I guess all the other points still stand that you haven't responded to without a debate right? OK good.
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Bigbran post #3.

Originally posted by Devil Lance
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dl post 4

did you look at any of previous posts Ya, I looked over EVERYTHING.
But I could ask you the same thing. The part in which Druid pawned the Avengers (I'll get into that later)?

Originally posted by Devil Lance
A. AM is nowehre near as fast as Quasar Where exactly did I claim this? Unless you are talking about when I said our team was probably faster, in which it mattered not, in which we were or not. But the only speedster on your team is Quaser. And he is busy:

Shooting a big omni-blast.
And trying to put me in a bubble.
In which, why would your speed matter anyway?

The rest of your team is slow, and Quaser can't substain your whole team when he gets his mind taken out (in which I will get to later/a long time ago).

Also I said his reflexes/speed were there to avoid his attacks. I never claimed AM to be faster than Quaser. He is fast enough however to avoid attacks.
I also said that I wouldn't be running around you, or running away (in the scan you posted). Also why would this be relevent anyway, since we never claimed "speedblitz" or anything of the sorts.

So, our guys are fast enough to avoid attacks (and the rest of our team is probably way faster than the rest of your team, but hey...).
Quaser is basically your only speedster, and I won't be trying to match his speed, just avoid his attacks (think along the lines of Spider-Man).

Originally posted by Devil Lance
B. Dr Druids "telepathic" powers are not magic based as they were there even before he learned magic they were just latent untill Tibetan lama unlocked them
http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/d/drdruid.htm Did you ever think that he could have added his magic to his telepathy (irrelevent since I will get into the full thing in a little bit). Anyway, based off a bio right? Because we all know the bio's just block out all the comic evidence of things happening.

Also that link didn't work, but I did see it.

Originally posted by Devil Lance
So DR. Druiods telepathic powers ra enot derived from magic making his tgp attacks useless against Quasar.
Oh? (I don't know how well the judges will like me reposting)
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/8279/mindfreezemp2.jpg
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/103/mindfreezedetailedjh6.jpg


Hell, let's say that you are indeed right for a minute. The power he showed there was magic (a magic mind attack... something that I have been using to take out Quaser this whole time). Quaser is useless to magic. So... Quaser's mind still gets attacked by magic, and Quaser still goes down... hard.

But yet again I have a back up. Yes inexperienced, yes, lots of bubbles.
But AM is smarter, and he is also made of Cap's shield, harder than adamantium.
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/6932/quasar05015yk2.jpg

Of course though, this is if by someway that the telepathy doesn't work.

So, I will still stick with my strategy and take you out by mind.

Originally posted by Devil Lance
Anways Enchnatress is not a telepath and just used a mind control spell on Quasra which he was able to snap himself out of in a short time since his quantam bands have saftety measures against magical attacks aswell. Ya, and how long did those safety measures take?
Also, it also seemed to weaken him quite when this kicked in. So, if by some miracle that you can stop my magic (not possible), Quaser will also be weakened or stunned... just enough time for me to take him to the cleaners.

So you see, either way you slice it, Quaser is going down.

Originally posted by Devil Lance
You have no proof that
A. Dr. Druids telpathy is magical in nature or Oh but I do.
It is all a matter of looking. Or if you can't use this as a response, it is littered all over this post.

Originally posted by Devil Lance
B. His power is anywhere near the power of Enchantress whose "Spell" Quasar was able to breal free from. Oh, and this matters?
(I think this is the third time this scan was used, and hopefully the last)
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/6450/magicvulnerability2qc2.jpg

Quaser is useless against magic, not to a certain degree, but useless!
So, he was the wrong one for you guys to put against AM don't you think?

Also, I know that it took a full battle in which Quaser had the lower hand against Thor, for the spell to wear off. It also wore off, from a little help from Thor hitting him.

Quaser never broke free right away, and he doesn't have the luxury of a couple comics for AM's mind attacks to take you out. Also, I won't be continually affecting you. Think of it, as Mike Tyson hitting a normal (unworked out) 20 year old.
One attack equals Quaser either going down, or severely hurt.
Two attacks equals Quaser going down.

So Quaser as he is useless to magic, will be hit with magic and telepathy (I already pointed out in an earlier post).

Originally posted by Devil Lance
C. Enchantress was using magical tp against Quasr which she wasn't she was just using a speel which is alot different from Dr. Druids non magical tp Ya, and that is the only reason Quaser was able to break free. From it's long lasting effects. Like I said though, my attacks are going to hit you hard and fast.
You also made a mistake:
Dr. Druid's magical TP. wink

Originally posted by Devil Lance
So there goers that startegy down the drain. Sure, let's go with that... roll eyes (sarcastic)

Originally posted by Devil Lance
and Quasar can absorb AM
Ego the Living Planet> AM
not to mention the fact that Quasar absorbs stars in seconds
http://img386.imageshack.us/my.php?image=quasar160332nx.jpg Do I need to explain it again?
Thor has absorbed a blast that would destroy a 5th of the universe. Thor wasn't able to absorb AM.

Also that was a hypothical situation, in which I would turn into Quaser's constructs. Or in other words, I played into your hands.
But that wouldn't work.

I also said I wasn't dumb enough to do that (since I have my magic working at Quaser). But that was a just in case.
I will however use that energy AFTER I take out Quaser to get out of the bubble (That I most likely will not be getting into).

Originally posted by Devil Lance
so your telepathy won't work
Quasar can bsorb AM
and you will get hit by my teams surpise attack Yes, it will work. I already explained earlier. But, Quaser is useless to magic. My attacks are magic. His mind attacks will take out Quaser.

You can't absorb AM, and it wouldn't matter if you could (as I already pointed out).

You mean the suprise attack that just came in, about two posts, ago, that also goes against your first strategy?
Anyway... this suprise attack won't affect our guys. Since as I pointed out earlier, that two of us are made of Cap's shield (Darth will deal with Despero). You will again, at best, get our attention. Then it's all downhill from there.
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I'm still sticking strong with my strategy though.

I will mindrape Quaser when he uses his attack (I guess he got switched to attacking from behind now). So after that attack is futile, I will hit you hard.

I also made every way that you said it would play out backfire. That just proves I have so many other options, than my main one that I am sticking with.

I don't even know if I need to get into detail about Mangog/SA, since I explained it good the last post, but... Mangog won't be taking him down basically. And every time he attacks, he will be getting energy sapped.

Then from there, it is all about overwhelming the rest in our number advantage.

Lucid Lui

darthgoober
Originally posted by Lucid Lui
Sorry it's taken me so long to reply everyone. But, i'm here now...

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Ok, Lucid Post #2.
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The problem here is, X-Man is shielding his presence from other psionics. Just like Exodus couldn't sense him (in a scan i posted in my #1 post), something like what Druid did there isn't going to sense X-Man either.
I really don't know what your reading in those scans, because I saw no indication that Dr. Druid sensed Captain Marvel at all. If he didn't need to sense her, then he won't need to sense X-Man.


Originally posted by Lucid Lui
"Useless"? Well that depends on how you look at it. As you so kindly pointed out...

Your team is distracted. The illussions have served their purpose. Maybe not as long as i'd hoped, but even a little is enough. Quasar Found your energy signatures when X-Man was preparing the illusions. The second the illusions manifest, we're teleporting to your position. So now wile SA is bringing your team up to date on the illusions, we've arrived....

No because you are again over looking the fact that Super Adaptiod has a FAR greater reactionary speed than anyone on your team. He has the combined mental speed of two super computers, and a guy that can tag Flash fairly frequently. He would register the illusions and transmit the info about them before your team could actually attack. X-Man has faster reflexes than anyone on your team(though Quasar has a faster travel speed), and he simply moves/reacts at the speed of thought.

2 Super Computers+Despero > Speed of thought.

AM also has the mind of a super computer plus mental speed of Despero. So he'll be able to respond to Super Adaptoid within two seconds(tops). Your guys won't be able to get off an actual attack before my guys are going to be fully aware of the illusions, so we won't be distracted by them.

Originally posted by Lucid Lui
You don't "teleport back". You've been merged with solid ground. You're dead....
Nope I checked with batdude, that kind of teleportaion isn't allowed in this tourney. And the time you wasted trying just lends more credit to my team being ready to counter.

Originally posted by Lucid Lui
That does cause a problem, and obviously Mangog's not going to be verty effective. He won't be losing power though. He'll keep pounding away, and he could probably keep doing so infinitely. Whatever happens, Mangog will have kept SA busy enough for X-Man (who's dealt with Desper) to come in and help....
Wrong. Mangog WILL be losing power(if he manages to get in a hit) because Super Adaptoid will be absorbing his strength, and using it to grow stronger. For that matter, he can also absorb Mangog's speed at the same time, and then add YOUR speed to his also.

Originally posted by Lucid Lui
Druid will not know where X-Man is, as i've already pointed out....
He doesn't have to, as I've pointed out.

Originally posted by Lucid Lui
He's faster to put a beating on Thor so fast and ferocious that the Recorder couldn't tally the blows....
So a a character who's mind is as fast as a supercomputer couldn't tally the blows, big deal. Now he's swinging at a guy who's mind is as fast as TWO super computers, in addition to someone who can tag Flash consistently.

Originally posted by Lucid Lui
Especially when he can't find him....
The attack itself will find him, didn't you read the scan?

Originally posted by Lucid Lui
Impossible to do when you're merged with solid ground....
Not allowed, but thanks for wasting your time trying.

Anyway, I'll let bigbran respond to your comments to him and just skip forward to mine.


Originally posted by Lucid Lui
He imbued the Hulk with armour, and then proceeded to spend his time telekintically re-building a large amount of wreckage. Sustaing Hulk's armour had no effect whatsoever on X-Man (and even if he wasn't able to maintain Mangog's armour, Mangog still has his natural durability and Quantum armour. I can't think of anything you guys can to do to Mangog physically that would cause him much trouble. He is insanely durable....
Wait, did he PROCEED to re building the wreckage, or did he do that while Hulk was wearing the armor? And Super Adaptoid is more than powerful enough to hurt Mangog at this point. You see, now he's got the strength/durability of Cap's shield, power from Quasar's omni blast, the energy from your Quantum Armor, the energy from your TK armor, and the strength you had Mangog feed him by attacking him physically. Remember, Mangog's strength got added to the strength Super Adaptoid already had when you where foolish enough to have Mangog attack him physically. So Super Adaptoid's fine, Mangog on the other hand is pretty much screwed.


Originally posted by Lucid Lui
He's not keeping Quasar invisible, Quasar's doing that himself. Regardless he's been doing the invisibilty tick since he was just a young rookie with barely any control over his powers. It's never strained him....
Wait I thought he didn't do it with tk until later(though I may be wrong about that)? Anyway, I'm not really contesting his ability to do anything on the list, I'm contesting his ability to do all of them at once.

Originally posted by Lucid Lui
You are mistaken. He didn't have to concentrate to maintain Hulks. And let's remember, this is Shaman X-Man. He's reached his full potenital and is a great deal more powerful and skilled than X-Man was in the issue we're talking about....
Which means what exactly? Now your speculating that now he'll be able to do 5 separate things, none of which he's ever shown the ability to do simultaneously before. I know he's more powerful at this stage, but I still think your putting him to high up on the scale of power. Like I said, I'd be willing to believe that he could do two or three of the things your saying, but five seems a bit much with the lack of evidence that exist in this case.

Originally posted by Lucid Lui
You guys saw through them pretty fast, and they served their purpose long enough for X-Man to take out Despero. X-Man won't need the illusions much longer....
Yeah, my team saw through them within seconds(and before you could attack most likely). And since you didn't take Despero out by teleporting(since it's not allowed), that just means your trying to sustain all of them even longer(when you still haven't proven he can).

Originally posted by Lucid Lui
Not happening because Despero is merged with solid ground....
Wrong, against the rules. Despero's fine, and the time you spent trying that little stunt gave my guys even more time to adapt to the situation(not that they really needed it).

Originally posted by Lucid Lui
blah blah shielded presence blah blah....
blah blah don't need to sense you blah blah stick out tongue

Devil Lance
Originally posted by bigbran
So, before I respond, I guess all the other points still stand that you haven't responded to without a debate right? OK good.
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Bigbran post #3.

Ya, I looked over EVERYTHING.
But I could ask you the same thing. The part in which Druid pawned the Avengers (I'll get into that later)?

Where exactly did I claim this? Unless you are talking about when I said our team was probably faster, in which it mattered not, in which we were or not. But the only speedster on your team is Quaser. And he is busy:

Shooting a big omni-blast.
And trying to put me in a bubble.
In which, why would your speed matter anyway?

The rest of your team is slow, and Quaser can't substain your whole team when he gets his mind taken out (in which I will get to later/a long time ago).

Also I said his reflexes/speed were there to avoid his attacks. I never claimed AM to be faster than Quaser. He is fast enough however to avoid attacks.
I also said that I wouldn't be running around you, or running away (in the scan you posted). Also why would this be relevent anyway, since we never claimed "speedblitz" or anything of the sorts.

So, our guys are fast enough to avoid attacks (and the rest of our team is probably way faster than the rest of your team, but hey...).
Quaser is basically your only speedster, and I won't be trying to match his speed, just avoid his attacks (think along the lines of Spider-Man).

Did you ever think that he could have added his magic to his telepathy (irrelevent since I will get into the full thing in a little bit). Anyway, based off a bio right? Because we all know the bio's just block out all the comic evidence of things happening.

Also that link didn't work, but I did see it.


Oh? (I don't know how well the judges will like me reposting)
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/8279/mindfreezemp2.jpg
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/103/mindfreezedetailedjh6.jpg


Hell, let's say that you are indeed right for a minute. The power he showed there was magic (a magic mind attack... something that I have been using to take out Quaser this whole time). Quaser is useless to magic. So... Quaser's mind still gets attacked by magic, and Quaser still goes down... hard.

But yet again I have a back up. Yes inexperienced, yes, lots of bubbles.
But AM is smarter, and he is also made of Cap's shield, harder than adamantium.
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/6932/quasar05015yk2.jpg

Of course though, this is if by someway that the telepathy doesn't work.

So, I will still stick with my strategy and take you out by mind.

Ya, and how long did those safety measures take?
Also, it also seemed to weaken him quite when this kicked in. So, if by some miracle that you can stop my magic (not possible), Quaser will also be weakened or stunned... just enough time for me to take him to the cleaners.

So you see, either way you slice it, Quaser is going down.

Oh but I do.
It is all a matter of looking. Or if you can't use this as a response, it is littered all over this post.

Oh, and this matters?
(I think this is the third time this scan was used, and hopefully the last)
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/6450/magicvulnerability2qc2.jpg

Quaser is useless against magic, not to a certain degree, but useless!
So, he was the wrong one for you guys to put against AM don't you think?

Also, I know that it took a full battle in which Quaser had the lower hand against Thor, for the spell to wear off. It also wore off, from a little help from Thor hitting him.

Quaser never broke free right away, and he doesn't have the luxury of a couple comics for AM's mind attacks to take you out. Also, I won't be continually affecting you. Think of it, as Mike Tyson hitting a normal (unworked out) 20 year old.
One attack equals Quaser either going down, or severely hurt.
Two attacks equals Quaser going down.

So Quaser as he is useless to magic, will be hit with magic and telepathy (I already pointed out in an earlier post).

Ya, and that is the only reason Quaser was able to break free. From it's long lasting effects. Like I said though, my attacks are going to hit you hard and fast.
You also made a mistake:
Dr. Druid's magical TP. wink

Sure, let's go with that... roll eyes (sarcastic)

Do I need to explain it again?
Thor has absorbed a blast that would destroy a 5th of the universe. Thor wasn't able to absorb AM.

Also that was a hypothical situation, in which I would turn into Quaser's constructs. Or in other words, I played into your hands.
But that wouldn't work.

I also said I wasn't dumb enough to do that (since I have my magic working at Quaser). But that was a just in case.
I will however use that energy AFTER I take out Quaser to get out of the bubble (That I most likely will not be getting into).

Yes, it will work. I already explained earlier. But, Quaser is useless to magic. My attacks are magic. His mind attacks will take out Quaser.

You can't absorb AM, and it wouldn't matter if you could (as I already pointed out).

You mean the suprise attack that just came in, about two posts, ago, that also goes against your first strategy?
Anyway... this suprise attack won't affect our guys. Since as I pointed out earlier, that two of us are made of Cap's shield (Darth will deal with Despero). You will again, at best, get our attention. Then it's all downhill from there.
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I'm still sticking strong with my strategy though.

I will mindrape Quaser when he uses his attack (I guess he got switched to attacking from behind now). So after that attack is futile, I will hit you hard.

I also made every way that you said it would play out backfire. That just proves I have so many other options, than my main one that I am sticking with.

I don't even know if I need to get into detail about Mangog/SA, since I explained it good the last post, but... Mangog won't be taking him down basically. And every time he attacks, he will be getting energy sapped.

Then from there, it is all about overwhelming the rest in our number advantage.

A. AM won't be seeing me I'm invisible remember
B. his tp is not magical he was born with those powers his magic comes from the speels of his ancestors .

C. Enchantress used a spell on Quasar not a Telepathic attack. Theres a difference.
Enchantress = spellcaster
Dr. Druuid- low level spell caster, low level telepath
Quasar is completely immune to telepathy and has failsafes against Strong spells like the one enchantress cast.

anways TP is TP no type of TP works against Quasar no type
Sow me a scan of someone using magical TP "not a mind control spell like enchantress used" against Quasar and having it work .

D. None of your team knows that Quasar is vulnurable to magic. They can't even see him. and your team can't scan his mind because A. Quasar is invulnerable to any type of telepathyB. Quasar is invisible .
So your team ahs no way of knowing that Quasra is vuneravle to amgic which doesn't even matter since your tp won't work on Quasar anyway.

E. PIS theres no way Absorbing man is> a goo dportion of the universe. Also Quasar >Thor when it comes to energy absorbtion.

F. I never specifically stated where ar epossition to your team was anyway even if I di you can't sense or see us and your team is distracted by the llusions as well. your team won't be braced for anything you will get hit hard.

Scoobless
At the start of your posts could you indicate which character is yours and which is the team character ... saves us non-combatants from constantly having to go back and check.

(this goes for our match from now on as well guys)

Lucid Lui
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Lucid Post #3
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Just a rebuttal post for now, i'll outline where our strategy goes from here tomorrow morning.


Originally posted by darthgoober
I really don't know what your reading in those scans, because I saw no indication that Dr. Druid sensed Captain Marvel at all. If he didn't need to sense her, then he won't need to sense X-Man. There needs to be some hint of a mind though. Something for the telepathy/spell to latch on to so it knows it's found it's contact, (otherwise what's to stop it from thinking it's found its contact with a rock). Nate has made it so there's no minds to be sensed, therefore Druids TP doesn't find anything.




Originally posted by darthgoober
No because you are again over looking the fact that Super Adaptiod has a FAR greater reactionary speed than anyone on your team. He has the combined mental speed of two super computers, and a guy that can tag Flash fairly frequently. He would register the illusions and transmit the info about them before your team could actually attack. X-Man has faster reflexes than anyone on your team(though Quasar has a faster travel speed), and he simply moves/reacts at the speed of thought. Shaman X-Man's reacted fast enough to teleport away from a bloodlusted character who could fly around the world in seconds. Whether your guys are informed about the illusions when we touch down or not, the fact still remains that you don't know we're there, so you won't be attacking us.



Originally posted by darthgoober
Wait, did he PROCEED to re building the wreckage, or did he do that while Hulk was wearing the armor? While.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Nope I checked with batdude, that kind of teleportaion isn't allowed in this tourney. And the time you wasted trying just lends more credit to my team being ready to counter. Now obviously this (annoying) turn of events hinders us a bit. But as Despero still won't be able to identify X-Man's position (and SA is busy with mangog, regardless of who has the advantage here, SA won't be taking Mangog out quickly), X-Man will change his strategy (as i assume since he tried something against the rules, it just didn't work), which i'll outline in my next post.

DigiMark007
Originally posted by DigiMark007
It's Friday evening, so I'll remind participants to get their last arguments in, and for judges to start reading through the match (if they haven't already) and placing votes in the next day or so.

darthgoober

Galan007
Has everyone posted their final arguments?

DigiMark007
Originally posted by Galan007
Has everyone posted their final arguments?

Even if they haven't, it's the final day and judges are welcome to start casting votes...at best, there will be a post or two, but enough has been posted to form a reasoned opinion.

Accel

Galan007
Darth and BB have my vote as well.

They seemed to counter everything that was thrown at them, with a very reasonable and just strategy. Everything seemed very well thought out, and they knew exactly what there characters were capable of, and provided scan after scan proving their point.

DL/LL still did very well, but Darth and BB's strategy held a bit better IMO.

Badabing
I'm voting for Darth and Bran.
I wanted to see if Devil Lance and Lucid Lui were going to post again before I voted but I have to leave soon.

I was more convinced with their opening strategy and counter points. I wasn't convinced with the illusions or invisibility working on team Bran/Darth. Team DL/LL did a great job but imo their plan and counters weren't as solid.

Congrats to both teams for a great debate.

It looks like Bran and Darth are moving to the next round.

batdude123
Well then this match is officially over.

Congradulations to BB and DG. You guys are moving to the next round.

DD and LL, you guys put up a great fight in this match and did a good job. I'd like to thank you for participating in my tourney. smile

darthgoober
Thanks judges.


Also thanks to DL and LL, you guys put up a really good match and actually had me scrambling at a couple of points during it. So I owe you thanks if for nothing else other than the fact that you guys showed me what we need to work on. smile

That being said....

BRING ON OUR NEXT VICTIMS!

bigbran
OK, this should be my last post.
Also, since this was brought up, my character is AM, Darth's is Despero, and our team's is SA.
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Originally posted by Devil Lance
A. AM won't be seeing me I'm invisible remember Remember that I don't have to see you, to hit you? Dr. Druid doesn't have to see his opponent to hit them with a mind attack. Also, you gave away your position as soon as you fired off your omni-blast wink . So, even if I didn't have Druid's mind powers, you gave away your position.
Either way, Quaser being invisible means nothing when he tried to stumble us, and failed, and in the mean time gave his position away.

Originally posted by Devil Lance
B. his tp is not magical he was born with those powers his magic comes from the speels of his ancestors . Oh, I guess you didn't see every post I posted. Your using a bio to disclude what happened, and the bio even says it is unsure about his mind attacks. Nothing along the lines of what you said.
Remember, bio's aren't there to try and disclude what happened on-panel, in comics.

Originally posted by Devil Lance
C. Enchantress used a spell on Quasar not a Telepathic attack. Theres a difference.
Enchantress = spellcaster
Dr. Druuid- low level spell caster, low level telepath
Quasar is completely immune to telepathy and has failsafes against Strong spells like the one enchantress cast. His failsafe didn't kick in immediately, and left him stunned in the process.
Plus remember that Quaser is useless against magic, not immune to Enchantress level magic.
Plus, where would you get the idea that he is a low level? Not that it matters... at all! But, really?

Originally posted by Devil Lance
anways TP is TP no type of TP works against Quasar no type
Sow me a scan of someone using magical TP "not a mind control spell like enchantress used" against Quasar and having it work . Ummm... Quaser is immune to tp, yes, of course. Quaser is useless against magic.
As soon as AM, takes out his mental blocks (magic), his tp will be hitting with full force. Not just a magic attack, not just a tp attack. But, a magic and tp attack.
Like I said before, he will be hit with the full force, it would be like Mike Tyson hitting you.
So you thought this whole time it would just be the magic, but no, not at all. The magic will take out the psi-blocks (and hurt the hell out of Quaser in the process), then the tp will finish him off.

Originally posted by Devil Lance
D. None of your team knows that Quasar is vulnurable to magic. They can't even see him. and your team can't scan his mind because A. Quasar is invulnerable to any type of telepathyB. Quasar is invisible .
So your team ahs no way of knowing that Quasra is vuneravle to amgic which doesn't even matter since your tp won't work on Quasar anyway. Umm... AM will still hit him with it reguardless. Like I mean, we had AM attack him with the attack already, and even if he didn't know about it, he is still going to hit him, find out it is effective, and then take him out in the next.
Plus, I already answered the rest in the rest of my post.

Originally posted by Devil Lance
E. PIS theres no way Absorbing man is> a goo dportion of the universe. Also Quasar >Thor when it comes to energy absorbtion. How is it pis, when it is AM's only showing of getting absorbed?
So, after you figured out that you couldn't absorb AM, you call the pis card?
Plus, I don't know why you are clinging to this one so much. I said it wouldn't happen, and it won't. You won't get the oppurtunity to do so, because when I responded to it, I gave you a What-If (like in comics, it won't happen). I showed it wouldn't happen, and it won't. It doesn't even matter if Quaser could (he can't), because I wouldn't give you the oppurtunity, and I'm not changing my strategy.

Plus, you want another reason why it also couldn't happen (this is the third reason). It is because AM is a magical person to begin with (he was changed by Loki). No that he ever shoots the stuff, but Quaser will sure as hell know what he is, if he follows your strategy. Quaser (useless to magic), absorbing someone who got his powers by magic... I don't think so!
You still want to cling to this? It is false, through and through.

Originally posted by Devil Lance
F. I never specifically stated where ar epossition to your team was anyway even if I di you can't sense or see us and your team is distracted by the llusions as well. your team won't be braced for anything you will get hit hard. Wait... you said you would teleport to our location and if all goes right, SA will be facing Mangog, Quaser will be facing AM, and Despero will be facing X-Man.
Do you know what facing is?
Go look at your opening post, if you think I'm making this up.
So, now you are going to teleport behind me?

Also, our team was braced for your impact.
Plus, your omni-blast was already proven to do nothing numerous times.

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OK, to get right down to this battle:

You guys changed to attacking us from behind. At first you said you would be facing us, and now it is changed into a back attack.

Your illusions have been proven to be false.

You changed your strategy (and character), when you said that Mangog will just stand back and attack from afar, after you found out that SA was set to absorb.

Mangog was originally going to just teleport and pound on SA, and KO him... but then you found out what it said in our opening post, and then it went downhill form there. Mangog isn't even in the debate anymore...

Quaser was proven not to be able to absorb AM.

Quaser was shown to be useless to magic attacks. We gave you magic telepathy.

Quaser was originally supposed to hurt all of our characters with his omni-blast. We proved that to be nothing more than an attention attack.

Quaser is supposed to do an omni-blast, and than is supposed to trap AM in a bubble. But, AM will hit Quaser as soon, or right after he fires off his omni-blast (or useless attack in this battle).

Mangog was proven not to be invisible.
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For our part now:

Basically, our strategy is still strong. Everything is still good, and running.

AM takes Quaser out as soon as he tries to do anything. With his magic, plus his telepathy, Quaser will be hit full force, and for the first time, Quaser is going down to telepathy. The magic in the attack, will take out the psi-blocks, plus it will severely weaken him and stun him. Then the TP will hit his mind full force. That is all in one attack too!
He either goes down in the first attack, or he gets put in a coma in the next one... you decide.

It still doesn't matter if Quaser gets him in a bubble also. I will take him out, and then deal with his bubble later. It also won't take long at all to get out of the bubbles.

I have regarded your strategy's, and then proved them to be false, not just ignored them. They were hypothical situations (AM getting absorbed), in which I proved them to be false, and then later killed them.

Mangog isn't taking out SA since he is made of Cap's shield, and he will take some damage, plus, he will be absorbing part of the shield that was put up around Mangog. Hell we didn't even make SA lift a finger to do this (weird).
Mangog is still visible, and still vunerable.

The omni-blast won't be doing anything, and it was just a waste of time, to put Quaser as an even bigger target.

Quaser may be visible, but his mind isn't, and that is all that is important. Plus, he gave away his position as soon as he fired off his useless omni-blast.

Also, your bubbles that were supposedly going to take down AM, those weren't even proven to hit him. Plus, after Quaser is dealt with, it is a simple matter of breaking out of the bubbles, not by physical force, but by using his head.

Plus, our team may, or may not be faster, but we sure as hell have faster reflexes.

After Quaser gets taken to the house, AM will come over and help put Mangog down, then X-Man is going down.

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EDIT: Damn...

Anyway, thanks judges.

Thanks, to DL and Lucid for a good match to.

So I'm guesing we take on Digi, and Scoobs next?

darthgoober
Originally posted by bigbran
OK, this should be my last post.
Also, since this was brought up, my character is AM, Darth's is Despero, and our team's is SA.
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Remember that I don't have to see you, to hit you? Dr. Druid doesn't have to see his opponent to hit them with a mind attack. Also, you gave away your position as soon as you fired off your omni-blast wink . So, even if I didn't have Druid's mind powers, you gave away your position.
Either way, Quaser being invisible means nothing when he tried to stumble us, and failed, and in the mean time gave his position away.

Oh, I guess you didn't see every post I posted. Your using a bio to disclude what happened, and the bio even says it is unsure about his mind attacks. Nothing along the lines of wha you said.
Remember, bio's aren't there to try and disclude what happened on-panel, in comics.

His failsafe didn't kick in immediately, and left him stunned in the process.
Plus remember that Quaser is useless against magic, not immune to Enchantress level magic.
Plus, where would you get the idea that he is a low level? Not that it matters... at all! But, really?

Ummm... Quaser is immune to tp, yes, of course. Quaser is useless against magic.
As soon as AM, takes out his mental blocks (magic), his tp will be hitting with full force. Not just a magic attack, not just a tp attack. But, a magic and tp attack.
Like I said before, he will be hit with the full force, it would be like Mike Tyson hitting you.
So you thought this whole time it would just be the magic, but no, not at all. The magic will take out the psi-blocks (and hurt the hell out of Quaser in the process), then the tp will finish him off.

Umm... AM will still hit him with it reguardless. Like I mean, we had AM attack him with the attack already, and even if he didn't know about it, he is still going to hit him, find out it is effective, and then take him out in the next.
Plus, I already answered the rest in the rest of my post.

How is it pis, when it is AM's only showing of getting absorbed?
So, after you figured out that you couldn't absorb AM, you call the pis card?
Plus, I don't know why you are clinging to this one so much. I said it wouldn't happen, and it won't. You won't get the oppurtunity to do so, because when I responded to it, I gave you a What-If (like in comics, it won't happen). I showed it wouldn't happen, and it won't. It doesn't even matter if Quaser could (he can't), because I wouldn't give you the oppurtunity, and I'm not changing my strategy.

Plus, you want another reason why it also couldn't happen (this is the third reason). It is because AM is a magical person to begin with (he was changed by Loki). No that he ever shoots the stuff, but Quaser will sure as hell know what he is, if he follows your strategy. Quaser (useless to magic), absorbing someone who got his powers by magic... I don't think so!
You still want to cling to this? It is false, through and through.

Wait... you said you would teleport to our location and if all goes right, SA will be facing Mangog, Quaser will be facing AM, and Despero will be facing X-Man.
Do you know what facing is?
Go look at your opening post, if you think I'm making this up.
So, now you are going to teleport behind me?

Also, our team was braced for your impact.
Plus, your omni-blast was already proven to do nothing numerous times.

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OK, to get right down to this battle:

You guys changed to attacking us from behind. At first you said you would be facing us, and now it is changed into a back attack.

Your illusions have been proven to be false.

You changed your strategy (and character), when you said that Mangog will just stand back and attack from afar, after you found out that SA was set to absorb.

Mangog was originally going to just teleport and pound on SA, and KO him... but then you found out what it said in our opening post, and then it went downhill form there. Mangog isn't even in the debate anymore...

Quaser was proven not to be able to absorb AM.

Quaser was shown to be useless to magic attacks. We gave you magic telepathy.

Quaser was originally supposed to hurt all of our characters with his omni-blast. We proved that to be nothing more than an attention attack.

Quaser is supposed to do an omni-blast, and than is supposed to trap AM in a bubble. But, AM will hit Quaser as soon, or right after he fires off his omni-blast (or useless attack in this battle).

Mangog was proven not to be invisible.
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For our part now:

Basically, our strategy is still strong. Everything is still good, and running.

AM takes Quaser out as soon as he tries to do anything. With his magic, plus his telepathy, Quaser will be hit full force, and for the first time, Quaser is going down to telepathy. The magic in the attack, will take out the psi-blocks, plus it will severely weaken him and stun him. Then the TP will hit his mind full force. That is all in one attack too!
He either goes down in the first attack, or he gets put in a coma in the next one... you decide.

It still doesn't matter if Quaser gets him in a bubble also. I will take him out, and then deal with his bubble later. It also won't take long at all to get out of the bubbles.

I have regarded your strategy's, and then proved them to be false, not just ignored them. They were hypothical situations (AM getting absorbed), in which I proved them to be false, and then later killed them.

Mangog isn't taking out SA since he is made of Cap's shield, and he will take some damage, plus, he will be absorbing part of the shield that was put up around Mangog. Hell we didn't even make SA lift a finger to do this (weird).
Mangog is still visible, and still vunerable.

The omni-blast won't be doing anything, and it was just a waste of time, to put Quaser as an even bigger target.

Quaser may be visible, but his mind isn't, and that is all that is important. Plus, he gave away his position as soon as he fired off his useless omni-blast.

Also, your bubbles that were supposedly going to take down AM, those weren't even proven to hit him. Plus, after Quaser is dealt with, it is a simple matter of breaking out of the bubbles, not by physical force, but by using his head.

Plus, our team may, or may not be faster, but we sure as hell have faster reflexes.

After Quaser gets taken to the house, AM will come over and help put Mangog down, then X-Man is going down.
Dude, it's over. We won.

Soljer
Originally posted by darthgoober
Dude, it's over. We won.

laughing

bigbran
Originally posted by darthgoober
Dude, it's over. We won. Ya, I also just started that post, right after Accel wrote (or after I seen it). Then when I posted I saw the rest.

leonidas
well done, gents. wink

Galan007
Good job everyone!

Lucid Lui
Congrats to Bran and Goober. Kudos on the strategy, i honestly couldn't think of a way for us to beat your combination.

I've now decided that you two have to go on to win the tournament, just so we were beaten by the winners. I command it!

Badabing
Originally posted by Lucid Lui
Congrats to Bran and Goober. Kudos on the strategy, i honestly couldn't think of a way for us to beat your combination.

I've now decided that you two have to go on to win the tournament, just so we were beaten by the winners. I command it!
Very gracious and magnanimous Lucid. cool

Scoobless
shouldn't this be unpinned by now?

DigiMark007
Originally posted by Scoobless
shouldn't this be unpinned by now?

You'd think so. Lazy mods...

Scoobless
Originally posted by DigiMark007
You'd think so. Lazy mods...

Y'know .... according to this you're not a mod, you're a "Forum Leader".

stick out tongue

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