Is America Headed For Communism/Socialism?

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NuclearWinter
His protestations to the contrary notwithstanding, California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger still wants to become president of the United States, according to Laurence Leamer, author of "Fantastic: The Life of Arnold Schwarzenegger."

"That's his dream," Leamer told the Fox News Channel's Bill O'Reilly. "He thinks the Constitution should be changed ."

The Schwarzenegger biographer said Arnold's speech last summer to the GOP convention was the first step in his presidential campaign.

"He intended that speech to be so dramatically positive that America would say: 'We need this man to lead us in the 21st century.'"


So now that Arnold Schwarzenegger wants to be President of the United States, or at least wants to have the ability to run for President, he somehow thinks that he is entitled to a change in the Constitution of The United States of America. The very document that guarantees us our rights.

But let me make this perfectly clear folks. If the Constitution is altered for any such reason, then it could easily be the beginning of the end of our Constitution. Period.

Symmetric Chaos
Originally posted by NuclearWinter

So now that Arnold Schwarzenegger wants to be President of the United States, or at least wants to have the ability to run for President, he somehow thinks that he is entitled to a change in the Constitution of The United States of America. The very document that guarantees us our rights.

But let me make this perfectly clear folks. If the Constitution is altered for any such reason, then it could easily be the beginning of the end of our Constitution. Period.

How does letting Arnold become prez involve limiting our freedoms?

NuclearWinter
Don't believe me?

Well let me put it this way people. If Arnold Schwarzenegger gets his wish, and our Constitution is altered so that he can run for President, simply because he wants it that way, then what is to stop any person in the future, be it good intentions or bad, from altering our Constitution simply because "They want it that way" too?

Now I have been watching how Arnold operates, and I have to say, his ideas and his proposals are right on par with Socialist/Communist idealisms.

The "Everybody gets this" or the "Everyone deserves this" mentality is part of the basic fundamentals of a Communist society.

And remember folks, in a Communist society, it's not the People who get to determine what everyone gets, it's the Government that does.

NuclearWinter
Now, aside from the fact that Arnold Schwarzenegger's father was a Nazi (not that he takes after his Father, although he might in many ways), I think it is COMPLETELY wrong for anyone, from any country, to believe that it is ok to alter our Constitution just to suit their needs. Our Founding Fathers never intended for such a thing.

I promise you, if this happens, and if Arnold succeeds with his goal, that it will without a doubt in my opinion cause other politicians (who may have more sinister reasons in mind) to attempt to do the same.

People! I am so worried for our country! It is falling apart before my eyes! And many people might say, "What is so wrong with a communist society in it's purest form?" "Everybody being treated equally? That sounds great."

WAKE UP FOLKS!

If our country turns into a communist society, I'll tell you what I believe will happen to it. You'll have certain people, regular citizens just like you and me, who will start to become greedy and demand more attention from the Government.

Now picture this........

You and your friend are outside giving your opinion on something that you don't approve of that the Government is doing. Suddenly, without you knowing it, someone walking by begins to listen in on your conversation.

If that person has greedy intentions folks, what, in theory, would stop them from reporting you and your friend to the Government in exchange for a better job, a new car, a new place to live, and the list goes on!

Sooner or later, and it's just a matter of time, you'll have people spying all over the place. Just like Russia did with the KGB, ect. In fact, eventually people won't be having negative conversations about the Government at all, out of fear of losing what the Government provides for them. Or worse, for fear of being imprisoned!

Nope, instead, everyone will be stepping outside and saying, "what a nice day today, Isn't our Government great? Don't they treat us all so well? Long live (whoever is dictating at the time). God bless the U.S.A.

Fake smiles. Complete obedience. Disgusting.

NuclearWinter
Americans, this is what I believe will happen to our country if these "Controllers" that are seeking a "New World Order" for America, and the World for that matter, are successful with their plans.

A "New America. THEIR AMERICA .

We cannot let this happen. We MUST not let this happen. If we do. It's all over. And we'll have ourselves to blame.

Symmetric Chaos
see Amendments To The US Constitution

NuclearWinter
This doesn't fall into that kind of category my friend.

If Arnold suceeds, then This...is....the beginning...of the end....of our civilian rights.

I promise you that. Domino effect. Ripple effect. Call it whatever you want. It's over.

Arnold for President? What do ya say Sym?

Symmetric Chaos
Originally posted by NuclearWinter
This doesn't fall into that kind of category my friend.

If Arnold suceeds, then This...is....the beginning...of the end....of our civilian rights.

I promise you that. Domino effect. Ripple effect. Call it whatever you want. It's over.


Yeah and so was prohibition and women voting

Originally posted by NuclearWinter

Arnold for President? What do ya say Sym?

laughing out loud

I vote Democrat and I haven't even heard much good about Arnold objectively

Symmetric Chaos
The General discussion forum has a thread on this already revive it and you'll get more responses than just me.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/437639_1-should-non-americans

NuclearWinter
Don't get it twisted though, I like the Terminator movies.

But being the "Terminator" does not entitle someone to begin the trend of destroying our Country's Constitution.

Symmetric Chaos
Originally posted by NuclearWinter
Don't get it twisted though, I like the Terminator movies.

But being the "Terminator" does not entitle someone to begin the trend of destroying our Country's Constitution.

By much good I mean I haven't heard that he's been a good governer in California.

You really should check out the GDF thread more people post there and you could have an interesting discussion (potentially).

Grimm22
Ever see the movie Red Dawn? no expression

Yeah if this ever happened, it would be a lot like that

Except with 1000x more rebels and more bear soldiers cool

BigRed
Originally posted by NuclearWinter
Now, aside from the fact that Arnold Schwarzenegger's father was a Nazi (not that he takes after his Father, although he might in many ways), I think it is COMPLETELY wrong for anyone, from any country, to believe that it is ok to alter our Constitution just to suit their needs. Our Founding Fathers never intended for such a thing.

I promise you, if this happens, and if Arnold succeeds with his goal, that it will without a doubt in my opinion cause other politicians (who may have more sinister reasons in mind) to attempt to do the same.

People! I am so worried for our country! It is falling apart before my eyes! And many people might say, "What is so wrong with a communist society in it's purest form?" "Everybody being treated equally? That sounds great."

WAKE UP FOLKS!

If our country turns into a communist society, I'll tell you what I believe will happen to it. You'll have certain people, regular citizens just like you and me, who will start to become greedy and demand more attention from the Government.

Now picture this........

You and your friend are outside giving your opinion on something that you don't approve of that the Government is doing. Suddenly, without you knowing it, someone walking by begins to listen in on your conversation.

If that person has greedy intentions folks, what, in theory, would stop them from reporting you and your friend to the Government in exchange for a better job, a new car, a new place to live, and the list goes on!

Sooner or later, and it's just a matter of time, you'll have people spying all over the place. Just like Russia did with the KGB, ect. In fact, eventually people won't be having negative conversations about the Government at all, out of fear of losing what the Government provides for them. Or worse, for fear of being imprisoned!

Nope, instead, everyone will be stepping outside and saying, "what a nice day today, Isn't our Government great? Don't they treat us all so well? Long live (whoever is dictating at the time). God bless the U.S.A.

Fake smiles. Complete obedience. Disgusting.
George Orwell's 1984 could become a reality.

Bicnarok
More like a dictatorship, dictated by the NWO

Symmetric Chaos
Originally posted by BigRed
George Orwell's 1984 could become a reality.

You're kidding right?

THE US CONSTITUTION IS MADE TO BE MODIFIED

Numerous times rights have been added and removed from it letting a person run for office does not endanger our civil liberties.

Lord Coal
Originally posted by NuclearWinter
And remember folks, in a Communist society, it's not the People who get to determine what everyone gets, it's the Government that does.

A true communist society wouldn't need a government. That's Nationalist Socialism.

Captain REX
You know, they probably had this same discussion about women trying to vote...

Symmetric Chaos
Originally posted by Captain REX
You know, they probably had this same discussion about women trying to vote...

been said

NuclearWinter
Here is a very good video which shows FACTUAL EVIDENCE that the BUSH family has plans to make America into a Communist type state and it also goes into detail about the Bush family's ties to Nazi Communists during World War 2.

It also talks a little bit about Arnold Schwarzenegger's ties to Nazis as well.

Just click on the link below to watch the video:

http://video.search.yahoo.com/video/play?rurl=www.barremore.net&oid=ba1aae94f5f47542&

Symmetric Chaos
Originally posted by NuclearWinter
Nazi Communists

Thats really all I needed to see.

Nazis hated communists they're opposite ends of the political spectrum. Nazis were far right and Communists are far left.

NuclearWinter
Look Sym I don't really want to get too technical here, because the point I am trying to make is that, if you want to know what America is going to become like within the next few years if we don't stop the Bush family and their cronies, then all you have to do is look back at World War 2 and Nazi Germany to understand what we have in store for us.

Most people know where I am going with this Sym. If you want to get into "a war of words" it's going to lead us nowhere.

All I know is, I look at Nazism and Communism as a similar concept. Socialism/Communism crossbreeding is the way I would describe whats coming soon if things don't change.

NuclearWinter
The Skull and Bones organization of which President Bush, John Kerry, Bush Sr., and was Prescott Bush are members of is rooted in the Nazi party.

Arnold Schwarzenegger has attended the Bohemian grove and was selected many years ago for being leader of the fascist communist New World Order America.

But Arnold has other liabilities. Namely, his Nazi sympathies. He used to give recordings of Adolph Hitler to friends, he has said that Kurt Whatshisface (a former SS officer) was a great friend, black bodybuilders claim he used to make racist comments, etc.

lord xyz
Originally posted by NuclearWinter
His protestations to the contrary notwithstanding, California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger still wants to become president of the United States, according to Laurence Leamer, author of "Fantastic: The Life of Arnold Schwarzenegger."

"That's his dream," Leamer told the Fox News Channel's Bill O'Reilly. "He thinks the Constitution should be changed ."

The Schwarzenegger biographer said Arnold's speech last summer to the GOP convention was the first step in his presidential campaign.

"He intended that speech to be so dramatically positive that America would say: 'We need this man to lead us in the 21st century.'"


So now that Arnold Schwarzenegger wants to be President of the United States, or at least wants to have the ability to run for President, he somehow thinks that he is entitled to a change in the Constitution of The United States of America. The very document that guarantees us our rights.

But let me make this perfectly clear folks. If the Constitution is altered for any such reason, then it could easily be the beginning of the end of our Constitution. Period. How is Socialism a threat to anyone but the conservative scum whom we all hate?

Lord Coal
Originally posted by lord xyz
How is Socialism a threat to anyone but the conservative scum whom we all hate?

Well said

http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/observer/archives/David_Cameron.jpg

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