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Well, I know Palpatine apparently killed 100 Strom Troopers. Anyone got the scans of this?

Also, the thing about the Super Star Destroyer on Coruscant, where is that from? Anyone got a quote or the book it's from?

All those are just worthless feats, at least the majority. The "destroyed the entire council" was actually only 3 jedi, she taught Nihilus, but it was specifically said that what Nihilus did could NOT be taught, so Kreia didn't do shit about it.

In the ROTS Novelisation Palpatine is stated to be the most powerful sith in history, that is the highest form of canon, on par with the movies when it does not contradict it, and it does not here. So it's canon that Palpatine is the strongest one.

Link me to this debate

About the "Kreia was so strong in the Force, that she didn't even need eyes to see," all jedi are trained to see through the force. A better example would be her ability to wield three lightsaber with TK to great effect.

And it doesn't state that anywhere Kamikz...

Uh, yeah, it does...

Page number?

Nebaris and his KotoR/Bane era fanboyism. Please. Any of the PT top dogs would tear Traya to shreds. Especially when Shadow Hunter's mini-novella outright implies that Sidious can also use telekinetic lightsaber combat effectively.

DE Sidious could blink and wipe her out.

Anyways, Sidious has killed 100 Stormtroopers in the comic "Betrayal". An ambitious Moff leads them into battle against the Emperor's Red Guards - and the Emperor really doesn't considers them much of a threat as he simply stands in the periphery and pours himself a drink. Then, someone shoots the bottle, he gets pissed, and raises his hands, and wipes them all out.

In another, he reduces three powerful Sith acolytes to charred bone with a single, one handed blast.

Originally posted by Mic Assassin
Page number?



Near the end of Yoda vs Palpatine!

link please

You mean for the thread right? Cause I certainley haven't got the book on the computer, not even at home, just read some parts of it!

http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,108903.0.html

tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk, The assh0le SuperSaiyaMan123 is prehaps the most brainless idiotic fanboy i have ever seen, even nebaris is a god compared to this son of a b!tch. he claimed revan wtf pwns sidious and that George lucas words are bull shit and thus not canon. My god, id so pwn his ass if he was here.

He even made shit that exar kun can cause earthquakes by stomping on the ground, FFS that guy is jeez... An idiot beyond belief

LOL!

Well, whatever makes him happy.....

Originally posted by Gideon
Nebaris and his KotoR/Bane era fanboyism. Please. Any of the PT top dogs would tear Traya to shreds.

1. You seem to think that I thought Traya would win this, which I never said or implied. She would definitely lose to DE Sidious.

2. However, your second post is ridiculous, Traya would likely defeat any movie character, she's easily more powerful than people like Mace and Dooku.

@ Kamikz, I think you're getting confused between Yoda and Sidious, nowhere at the end of the duel does it say that, and even if it did, that entire passage is in Yoda's PoV anyway.

Actually, I do believe I'm correct. It does state all the things about Yoda, like "the strongest foe of darkness ever" and all that, but right at the end of that it says "but he could not defeat the most powerful sith lord in history!"

Well that's wrong, lol, I just searched through the entire duel (both by carefully reading through it, and by using the word search (it's an e-book)), and it was nowhere. Also, didn't you just say that you haven't even got the book on you? I do, trust me, it's not there, though you may actually be getting confused with the NEC, which is a fallible source anyway.

Originally posted by Mic Assassin
1. You seem to think that I thought Traya would win this, which I never said or implied. She would definitely lose to DE Sidious.

2. However, your second post is ridiculous, Traya would likely defeat any movie character, she's easily more powerful than people like Mace and Dooku.

@ Kamikz, I think you're getting confused between Yoda and Sidious, nowhere at the end of the duel does it say that, and even if it did, that entire passage is in Yoda's PoV anyway.

nebaris nebaris, mace windus vaapad would own her, dookus sword mastery would trash the hell out of her, Sidious masterful display of lightning will kill her, Anakins godness of djem so would get her shitted and vaders mastery of the dark side would crush her, Yoda will crush her too.

By the way nebaris. it has been said time and again in the NEC which is not fallible that palpatine is the most powerful sith lord

Originally posted by Mic Assassin
Well that's wrong, lol, I just searched through the entire duel (both by carefully reading through it, and by using the word search (it's an e-book)), and it was nowhere. Also, didn't you just say that you haven't even got the book on you? I do, trust me, it's not there, though you may actually be getting confused with the NEC, which is a fallible source anyway.



Hmm, yeah maybe. But I'm damn sure I actually have read it, and I will need to hear me wrong from more sources before I believe so.



Aboooggaaaaaaaaaaaa

Originally posted by Kadesh
nebaris nebaris, mace windus vaapad would own her, dookus sword mastery would trash the hell out of her, Sidious masterful display of lightning will kill her, Anakins godness of djem so would get her shitted and vaders mastery of the dark side would crush her, Yoda will crush her too.

By the way nebaris. it has been said time and again in the NEC which is not fallible that palpatine is the most powerful sith lord

1. I can just do the same thing you're doing, and say that Traya's telikenetic lightsaber will own Yoda, and her force drain will destroy mace etc. but I won't because it's stupid, Traya's displayed far gerater strength with the force than any movie character, don't be ridiculous.

2. The NEC is fallible, it's written from a historian inside the SW universe. And he, unlike us, doesn't get to base his opinions off of proper source material, but off of sometimes inaccurate and incomplete material. The point is, he's not "all knowing", he's fallible, and his opinion is lesser than even our's (well maybe not your's, lol) given that he bases it off of lesser material.

Originally posted by Mic Assassin
1. I can just do the same thing you're doing, and say that Traya's telikenetic lightsaber will own Yoda, and her force drain will destroy mace etc. but I won't because it's stupid, Traya's displayed far gerater strength with the force than any movie character, don't be ridiculous.
Dont be ridiculous! yoda can simply destroy the floating lightsabers, the hilts are so damm exposed, yoda lifted an entire mountain in the clone wars, sidious buried a 19km Super star destroyer in coruscant and vader has shook down buildings bigger than the rakatan temple in eaw cut scenes Ooop! Sorry nebaris, you are a liar. Freedon nadd is teh chosen one! Get lost lord-of-the-sock. By the way, her force drain worked on 3 jedi masters because they were inferiors, i might as well say zomg! vader would use force crush which has destroyed tanks as big as an AT-AT or ZOMG exar kuns amulet blast would tear a hole in palpatines ass! which is of course not the case.

Because nebaris, i will confirm one thing, You are going to get your ass torn apart and your colon plucked out of your flabbly cheeks by All of us. i garentee, you have been pwned time and again and you still come back for more humuliation

Originally posted by Mic Assassin


2. The NEC is fallible, it's written from a historian inside the SW universe. And he, unlike us, doesn't get to base his opinions off of proper source material, but off of sometimes inaccurate and incomplete material. The point is, he's not "all knowing", he's fallible, and his opinion is lesser than even our's (well maybe not your's, lol) given that he bases it off of lesser material. Um your the ones whos fallible bane humper, Obviously theres something called the archives and that historian knew every detail and every sith lord which ever existed by the way, Daniel wallace confirmed his statement to lightsnake and janus about palpatine being the most powerful sith ever AS of ROTS, Several novels like shadows of the empire points out he is the strongest person the galaxy has seen.

Quit being a queer your highness.

I got an idea, i can loan you my DVDs which contains hardcore bane porn doing all 55 sex positions with some one called wait whats his name? Ah yes nebaris from london.

Seriously quit socking bane humper,
i know its you nebaris, everytime you like a new singer you name your account after him, and your attitude is a give away to who you are as well as your kotor fanboyism,

I was just showing you an example of how idiotic your arguments are; point is, you can claim that character X can do this and that, but without an explanation, all it is, is unsupported.




1. He lifted a mountainside, not the entire mountain.
2. The Clone Wars cartoons have been confirmed to be inconsistent in regards to a jedi's abilities and skill, and Yoda's strength in the movies is significantly lower.



1. This is a lie.
2. The lie refers to a post PT Sidious.



1. Vader hasn't ever done anything like that, if he had, I would know.
2. What the feck is eaw?



What the hell is ooop?



I'm not Nebaris. And what are you chatting about Freedon Nadd, you big dummy!? Go back to Thailand!



Right, because in Kadesh World (also known as Thailand), everyone from KotOR were 'inferiors'.

Now please, Vrook had fought in Exar Kun's Sith War, Revan and Malak's Jedi Civil War, and was one of the few jedi who had survived Sion and Nihilus' Shadow War.

Kavar was the leader of the guardians, aka the warriors of the jedi order, and had fought in the same wars as Vrook, and also survived the Shadow War. He's also displayed great feats with he force, such as instantly stunning an entire room of armed soldiers (about 12, all surrounding him), and was able to survive an encounter with Malak.

Zez-Kai Ell had been a leading member of the jedi council, like the other two, and had also fought in the wars they had as well as survive the Shadow War that had killed so many jedi. He was also a master of the force.

And Traya just owned them like they were children, with a simple flick of the wrist.



Isn't that would you do usually say?



Yeah, I don't see anything wrong with saying that.




Charming!



Wow, witty!



Yet the Ultimate Visual Guide states that history has been distorted and lost so much throughout history that lots of knowledge was no longer available. The point still remains, whatever Voren Na'al has to say is opinion, not fact.



Right, because what Daniel Wallace says in his love letters to Trousersnake have that kind of authority. And I'm sure he would sign up to this forum, just to settle a small time debate. It's not like he's got anything better to do, being an LFL employee.



Provide a quote, or stfu.



Here's a deal: Go back to Thailand, and I'll stop being a queer.



You have those DVDS!?!



Mic Assassin's a rapper, not a singer, get it right!

Hey! Debate can get heated, but let's lay off things like the 'queer' comments which are simple personal attacks divorced from the issues.

EAW = Empire at War!

lol, OK!!!

I love how you're not denying that you're Nebaris. That's either stupidity or lack of anything better to do than come on here all the time.

What you're doing takes courage.

And Bane-love.

EDIT I did this before reading your PM so if any insults come dont take it to heart


Originally posted by Mic Assassin
I was just showing you an example of how idiotic your arguments are; point is, you can claim that character X can do this and that, but without an explanation, all it is, is unsupported.
Actually i already have


Originally posted by Mic Assassin

1. He lifted a mountainside, not the entire mountain.
2. The Clone Wars cartoons have been confirmed to be inconsistent in regards to a jedi's abilities and skill, and Yoda's strength in the movies is significantly lower.
! LOL it doest contradict anything, what has been done has been done and recorded in SW history, accept it and move on son

Originally posted by Mic Assassin

1. This is a lie.
2. The lie refers to a post PT Sidious.
Nonetheless he still did it, and that means he > kreia,

Originally posted by Mic Assassin

1. Vader hasn't ever done anything like that, if he had, I would know.
2. What the feck is eaw?
Eaw = Empire at war, and it has proven that vader and sidious could shake down buildings that height




Originally posted by Mic Assassin

I'm not Nebaris. And what are you chatting about Freedon Nadd, you big dummy!? Go back to Thailand! Lol of course your nebaris, he is the only fella who says go back to thailand! when hes losing a debate


Originally posted by Mic Assassin

Right, because in Kadesh World (also known as Thailand), everyone from KotOR were 'inferiors'.

Now please, Vrook had fought in Exar Kun's Sith War, Revan and Malak's Jedi Civil War, and was one of the few jedi who had survived Sion and Nihilus' Shadow War. Lol so because they were hiding from a sith lord too scared to fight nihilus means he is uber, lol great logic
Originally posted by Mic Assassin

Kavar was the leader of the guardians, aka the warriors of the jedi order, and had fought in the same wars as Vrook, and also survived the Shadow War. He's also displayed great feats with he force, such as instantly stunning an entire room of armed soldiers (about 12, all surrounding him), and was able to survive an encounter with Malak.
Lol so because he stunned 12 soldiers means he is uber, again what logic do you have? Just to let you know sidious killed 100 storm troopers while vader killed an army of wookies, that alone makes them better than these inferiors

Originally posted by Mic Assassin

Zez-Kai Ell had been a leading member of the jedi council, like the other two, and had also fought in the wars they had as well as survive the Shadow War that had killed so many jedi. He was also a master of the force. So? vader is also a master of the dark side. and again surviving the war doesnt mean shit, han solo survived the galactic civil war, does it mean he is an uber jedi? bad logic son
Originally posted by Mic Assassin

And Traya just owned them like they were children, with a simple flick of the wrist.
See the above. against stronger people like vader revan sidious dooku or even maul, i doubt it would work

Originally posted by Mic Assassin

Isn't that would you do usually say?
Eaw proves it



Originally posted by Mic Assassin

Yet the Ultimate Visual Guide states that history has been distorted and lost so much throughout history that lots of knowledge was no longer available. The point still remains, whatever Voren Na'al has to say is opinion, not fact.
And apparantly, opinion becomes fact, just like dan wallace statements. That historian of course has known every other sith lord in the galaxy, and by the way, the statement of palpatine being the most powerful was written in an out of universe perspective, and thus are confirmed by several novels, one of them would be shadows of the empire
Originally posted by Mic Assassin


Right, because what Daniel Wallace says in his love letters to Trousersnake have that kind of authority. And I'm sure he would sign up to this forum, just to settle a small time debate. It's not like he's got anything better to do, being an LFL employee.
Sorry, what he written is canon son, accpet it

Originally posted by Mic Assassin

Provide a quote, or stfu.
Lol as if i have the luxury of doing so for some body who denies evidence

Originally posted by Mic Assassin

Here's a deal: Go back to Thailand, and I'll stop being a queer.
I didnt come from thailand, see? that proves you are an idiot, people say they are not from there and you still say they are, tsk tsk tsk


Originally posted by Mic Assassin

Mic Assassin's a rapper, not a singer, get it right! Um idiot, it comes under the singing category moron