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Location Description for the "Loot vs Scoobless" Match

The battle will take place on earth. Both teams will start out in New York City around Time Square at exactly midnight.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/ff/Largeviewtimessquare.jpg

The battlefield size will be the entire planet. The upper height limit is the top of the Earth's atmosphere. Any character that attempts to leave the battlefield will suddenly stop at the of the edge of the atmosphere. Teleportation off the planet is not allowed either.

Reminder: Both teams will carry on all knowledge of all their previous matches in the tournament. They will remember how they won and how they lost, and will remember everyone they fought in this tournament.

This the third match-up between Loot and Scoobless.

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Loot


VS

Scoobless



The winner will be crowned "2nd Slugfest Showdown Undisputed Champion".

Contestants will post their own write-ups. Who will win? Will it be Loot who was the 1st Slugfest Champion, or will it be Scoobless?

You decide!

Good luck to both participants. Let the Final Match of the Tournament Begin!

Good luck guys!

De ja vu .......... again.

right now o donīt have much time i will post something so we can start the fight. I will try to return later for more debate.

Prep time: surfer will create a mind link and share all the information about my previous fights as iīve stated before my team as fought more in this tournament it as more battle experience then scoobs. Taskmaster has photographic memory, he will show to my entire team how scoobs team fights, since we met 2 times already, and how we lost, so we can think of a plan attack to this time defeat them.

The prove that he can create this mind link iīm mentioning:
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/...teado/SS_14.jpg
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/...1997_128_11.jpg
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/...r_v3_134p15.jpg
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/...vol3_127-03.jpg
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/...vol3_127-04.jpg


Ok for start i think i have na advantage with the scenario. I mean this is the entire planet, with spawn teleport abilities when the fight beginned, he would teleport my team to somewhere pretty far. This way they wouldnīt find us trough tp, even Xavier has to use cerebro to find mutants around the earth.
Since the planet is a big place, I have the advantage of having teleporters on my team, and spawn who can teleport at large distances.
The problem is, how do I find them, if iīm far away, here enters the surfer, he has sent messases trough space as proved by these scan, and since he has cosmic awarenss, he would send a message to my team stating were scoobs members are.

Here is surfer saying that he can listen the whisper of a butterflyīs wing a galaxy away:
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/MCP-069-27.jpg
here he says he can listen to the sound of a meteorite a thousand lightyears away:
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Incredible_Hulk_415-02.jpg
stating that he is cosmically aware:
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Fantastic_Four_v3_004-18.jpg


I dindīt mention this before but of course surfer will attack quasar .
I would use spawn to teleport one member of scoobs team at bring him to fight somewhere far against my entire team. Mimic is fast but he doensīt know where spawn is going to strike first, and I would teleport mimic first, after mimic is down, the only thing spawn as to do is teleport member by member of sccobs team, at the bottom of the ocean, eventually they will need to breath, and spawn doensīt. not the mention the pressure in the bottom of the universe is huge, and spawn can regenerate or make his body more durable.

This is not a fight inside a cage, or a room, it’s the entire planet, this will be better for surfer, since he will be able to use his speed more. Has proven he can think and react at nanoseconds, heīs faster then quasar, and now he has more space to use that speed as an advantage in fight.

Surfer as seen scoobs team fight 2 times already, he will share with his team their weakness he can sense them:
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/GalactusTheDevourer5-18a.jpg

Spawn as the power to mimic powers as mimic, but mimic can only do it at 50%. Spawn as fought many battles in this tournament and with time he has evolved and learned hoe to imitate better others powers. Plus he uses magic and magic is a weakness of the quantum constructs a weakness that he will explore.

How many times have you guys fought in this tourney, 2 or 3? lol

2 so far, this is the 3rd

Seems a little odd to me too.

Originally posted by Scoobless
2 so far, this is the 3rd

Seems a little odd to me too.

You could always forfeit... ermm

I could .....

Hey Evangel ... how long will this match be up?

The match will last until Wednesday night, at which time whomever has the most votes will be crowned champion.

How long is the prep time? (if any)

Originally posted by Scoobless
How long is the prep time? (if any)

2 hours.

Mimic starts off this time with Deadpool, Colossus, North Star, Cable and Nightcrawler.

prep time: then we do the usually Quantum Armouring procedure ... everyone is comfortable with it as we've done it twice already and it has the effect of making each member of my team as durable as their specific grouping allows them to be.
The armour will be covered in razor sharp, incredibly strong spikes and each person will have foot long Wolverine style Quantum claws.
The armours will also have visors on them to protect the eyes against blinding lights.

Just before the match starts, Quasar channels the energy of the sun through his bands for a large power boost.

http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/2876/star.th.jpg http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/6623/star10.th.jpg

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As soon as the match starts Quasar releases a blast of light 1,000 times brighter than anything previously seen on earth ... anyone on Loot's team (except Surfer) who was facing in the direction of this blast is permanently blinded ... even if they had their eyes closed.

We have a massive advantage right off the bat and my guys go kick their heads in.

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Even if Loot manages to teleport, a few of his guys will still be blinded.

Quasar already has a sensor array in place around the earth:

http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/8376/earth.th.jpg

....as soon as they arrive wherever they're going Quasar will know and we'll Quantum Jump right in behind them, release another blinding flash then fire the energy from the sun in a giant concussive blast that will knock Loot's team stupid.

Quasar will continue channeling the sun and continue releasing it as solid Quantum-force to batter the Surfer unconscious.

At this point, half of Loot's team is blind, most of them are unconscious and Surfer is getting his head kicked in.

The rest of my guys will just clean up the riff raff, use a few mind probes to see if anyone's still awake, if they are we mind-rape them and pummel/slice them to death.

but before the battle starts my team will be in position to teleport, we will all be toutching each other the minute the battle strat spawn teleports, doesnt matter if were blind (and it doensīt matter to spawn).

Only surfer will stay there and he will attack quasar witch means quasar eill be out fightinh him and he his the only one who is capable of searching my team, and since quasar donīt have telepathy he cannot tell where they are, where surfer has tp and can, and surfer cosmic awarenss is much superior to quasar as well.

spikes are good but its not going to stop spawn form teleporting you he can hurt his hands, he doensīt even need to regenerate from that, once in the comics he didnīt regenerate a hole in is chest, he didnīt want to spend the energy. (later he eventually regenerated, but he didnīt need to, he could fight as easily)

Originally posted by Loot
but before the battle starts my team will be in position to teleport, we will all be toutching each other the minute the battle strat spawn teleports, doesnt matter if were blind (and it doensīt matter to spawn).


You've all been touching each other and now you've all gone blind...

This is supposed to be a battle to the death, dammit, not an excuse for an orgy or a gang-bang (and that goes for you too, Scoobless - you are both sex-obsessed - all you wanna do is probe and rape Loot's poor team!

Come now, guys, focus, FOCUS! This is supposed to be MAKE WAR NOT LOVE!

Originally posted by Loot
but before the battle starts my team will be in position to teleport, we will all be toutching each other the minute the battle strat spawn teleports, doesnt matter if were blind (and it doensīt matter to spawn).

Only surfer will stay there and he will attack quasar witch means quasar eill be out fightinh him and he his the only one who is capable of searching my team, and since quasar donīt have telepathy he cannot tell where they are, where surfer has tp and can, and surfer cosmic awarenss is much superior to quasar as well.

spikes are good but its not going to stop spawn form teleporting you he can hurt his hands, he doensīt even need to regenerate from that, once in the comics he didnīt regenerate a hole in is chest, he didnīt want to spend the energy. (later he eventually regenerated, but he didnīt need to, he could fight as easily)

Leaving Surfer behind is a mistake, as soon as your guys teleport we're jumping after them and you wont have Surfer to protect you.

And being blind may not matter when it comes to being able to teleport ... but so what? you're somewhere else and you can't see .... which means you wont see us Q-jjmping in behind you which makes it so much easier to kill your guys.

Surfer wouldn't be permanently blinded but he will still be a little dazed from the flash which gives us all the time we need to knock him off his board and jump after the rest of your team.

Originally posted by Scoobless
Leaving Surfer behind is a mistake, as soon as your guys teleport we're jumping after them and you wont have Surfer to protect you.

And being blind may not matter when it comes to being able to teleport ... but so what? you're somewhere else and you can't see .... which means you wont see us Q-jjmping in behind you which makes it so much easier to kill your guys.

Surfer wouldn't be permanently blinded but he will still be a little dazed from the flash which gives us all the time we need to knock him off his board and jump after the rest of your team.

thats incorrect, you donīt have the abbility to teleport so far as spawn, since he isnīt a mutant you canīt mimic him, so no your team would not be able to find us. We also wouldnīt be blind, we would teleport before you could pull that one.

And surfer is attacking quasar and taking him out of there.

Spawn would then be teleporting your members to the bottom of the ocean, they neeed to breath they would die. Mimic is the problem so spawn would teleport him to fight my entire team very far from the rest.

I have been over the rules and its not possible to surfer to use his power cosmic to increase my teamīs power. But that doesnīt mean he canīt create surfboards. As ypu can see he is capable of easily create a surfboard:

http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_1989_027_18.jpg
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_1989_027_19.jpg

http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_1996_123_10.jpg

http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_v3_146_23.jpg

So in the prep, he would create a surfboard to each member of my team, and also some extra boards so he can control when fighting quasar.

He Has proved by the following scans he can fight without his board, and make the board be used by someone else
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/...evourer2-13.jpg
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/...evourer2-14.jpg

But now he would be fighting quasar with more then one board. And each member of my team would use the board to help them attack their opponents and try to beat them like in here:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=5186690

Originally posted by Loot
thats incorrect, you donīt have the abbility to teleport so far as spawn

And surfer is attacking quasar and taking him out of there.

Spawn would then be teleporting your members to the bottom of the ocean, they neeed to breath they would die. Mimic is the problem so spawn would teleport him to fight my entire team very far from the rest.

Quasar can teleport to the end of the Galaxy if he wanted, distance is not a problem.

Surfer is momentarily stunned by the flash and getting bounced out of the way when we go after your blind teammates.

And, frankly, Mimic could take care of the rest of your team on his own (not that it's going to come to that)

Blind Spawn isn't snatching anyone .... or walking in a straight line without tripping over something.

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Originally posted by Loot
I have been over the rules and its not possible to surfer to use his power cosmic to increase my teamīs power. But that doesnīt mean he canīt create surfboards. As ypu can see he is capable of easily create a surfboard:

http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_1989_027_18.jpg
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_1989_027_19.jpg

http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_1996_123_10.jpg

http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_v3_146_23.jpg

So in the prep, he would create a surfboard to each member of my team, and also some extra boards so he can control when fighting quasar.

He Has proved by the following scans he can fight without his board, and make the board be used by someone else
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/...evourer2-13.jpg
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/...evourer2-14.jpg

But now he would be fighting quasar with more then one board. And each member of my team would use the board to help them attack their opponents and try to beat them like in here:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=5186690

Where, in any of those scans, does he have more than one board at a time?

And where does it show anyone else being able to control them?

They don't show that because he can't do that.

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Your team is blind and Surfer is on his own, miles from the action, before he knows what's going on.

Originally posted by Scoobless
Quasar can teleport to the end of the Galaxy if he wanted, distance is not a problem.

Surfer is momentarily stunned by the flash and getting bounced out of the way when we go after your blind teammates.

And, frankly, Mimic could take care of the rest of your team on his own (not that it's going to come to that)

Blind Spawn isn't snatching anyone .... or walking in a straight line without tripping over something.



i wasnīt sayinh distance was a problem to quasar, but he doensīt know where they will be how can he teleport to that specific place? he can try yo find him? yes he can. can he do it while is fightinh surfer? no he canīt

Surfer wiil not be stunned by no flash, where did this happened before? someone who has fly acroos galaxies and trough suns. i can search for a scan where he passed trough a sun. not a problem

saying that mimic alone could take my team is ridiculous, he alone cannot take spawn, who can pretty much do all he can and more. plus against invisible shields from sue, banshee screams, nightcrawler, taskmaster ans shang shi, you may win the tournament but mimic would never be able to beat them alone you are way over your head.

By the way in Fantastic Four: The Ultimate Guide.

sue sent invisible grappling hooks into Doctor Dooms head so she can also attack your team members mind, it may not be typically telepathy, but its a mind attack, an attack inside your mind, it will make impossible for your team to be able of using their tp skills


Originally posted by Scoobless


Where, in any of those scans, does he have more than one board at a time?

And where does it show anyone else being able to control them?

They don't show that because he can't do that.


he dosneīs i was assuming if he can create one, he can use his power cosmic to create more, he never did it because he never need it. really dos quasar always have constructs of 2 hours prep? no. he has in here because you use your time like i am using mine.
He still can control various boards to help him fight quasar.

Originally posted by Loot
i wasnīt sayinh distance was a problem to quasar, but he doensīt know where they will be how can he teleport to that specific place? he can try yo find him? yes he can. can he do it while is fightinh surfer? no he canīt

As I already showed:

Originally posted by Scoobless
http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/8376/earth.th.jpg

....as soon as they arrive wherever they're going Quasar will know and we'll Quantum Jump right in behind them, release another blinding flash then fire the energy from the sun in a giant concussive blast that will knock Loot's team stupid.
Quasar doesn't have to search for them, his grid wil detect them as soon as they touch down.

And he isn't fighting Surfer.... yet.

Originally posted by Loot
Surfer wiil not be stunned by no flash, where did this happened before? someone who has fly acroos galaxies and trough suns. i can search for a scan where he passed trough a sun. not a problem

And if this was only as bright as a star then that would be relevant, but it isn't, it's thousands of times brighter than a star.

Originally posted by Loot
saying that mimic alone could take my team is ridiculous, he alone cannot take spawn, who can pretty much do all he can and more. plus against invisible shields from sue, banshee screams, nightcrawler, taskmaster ans shang shi, you may win the tournament but mimic would never be able to beat them alone you are way over your head.

Spawn is the only one there who could even come close to hurting Mimic ... and with Mimic's massive speed/durability/strength/regen along with TK, TP, and teleportation, that wont be happening.... especially as he's blind.

Originally posted by Loot
By the way in Fantastic Four: The Ultimate Guide.

sue sent invisible grappling hooks into Doctor Dooms head so she can also attack your team members mind, it may not be typically telepathy, but its a mind attack, an attack inside your mind, it will make impossible for your team to be able of using their tp skills

Creating force fields inside people's heads is still illegal ... much as it was in the first round.... and she can't aim while blind.

Originally posted by Loot
he dosneīs i was assuming if he can create one, he can use his power cosmic to create more, he never did it because he never need it. really dos quasar always have constructs of 2 hours prep? no. he has in here because you use your time like i am using mine.
He still can control various boards to help him fight quasar.

Whether or not he can control two boards at once is irrelevant, no other member of your team can control them ... and Surf would find it difficult using more than one as they would both be responding to the same mental command at the same time ... meaning they would just fly together.

Go Roldz.

woot

Originally posted by Scoobless
As I already showed:


Quasar doesn't have to search for them, his grid wil detect them as soon as they touch down.

And he isn't fighting Surfer.... yet.



And if this was only as bright as a star then that would be relevant, but it isn't, it's thousands of times brighter than a star.



Spawn is the only one there who could even come close to hurting Mimic ... and with Mimic's massive speed/durability/strength/regen along with TK, TP, and teleportation, that wont be happening.... especially as he's blind.



Creating force fields inside people's heads is still illegal ... much as it was in the first round.... and she can't aim while blind.



Whether or not he can control two boards at once is irrelevant, no other member of your team can control them ... and Surf would find it difficult using more than one as they would both be responding to the same mental command at the same time ... meaning they would just fly together.


you still donīt get it, surfer is FASTER then light, and he wonīt be blinded. my team wonīt be blinded because they will not be there, and even if quasar knows where my team is, like iīve stated if heīs fighting surfer how is he going to tell his team where they are, quasar is not a telepath, while surfer his. and i know quasar constructs protect him against tp, but when surfer opens a bit of quasar construct he will attack quasar mind, altough he rarely does so i already posted a scan where he uses his mind to attack.

force bubble are not allowed if they kill instantly, not if they only hurt. tp shut downs are also forbiden, but tp is allowed anyway, its the same thing.

and for the last time, does surfer needs to use his matter manipulation powers to create sunglasses for my team? or you will realize you will not be blinding my team.

the boras would not respond at the same command, and since he can think in the order of nanoseconds, it would be pretty difficult to quasar. Quasar is not able to react or think at surfer speed.

Originally posted by Loot
you still donīt get it, surfer is FASTER then light, and he wonīt be blinded. my team wonīt be blinded because they will not be there, and even if quasar knows where my team is, like iīve stated if heīs fighting surfer how is he going to tell his team where they are, quasar is not a telepath, while surfer his. and i know quasar constructs protect him against tp, but when surfer opens a bit of quasar construct he will attack quasar mind, altough he rarely does so i already posted a scan where he uses his mind to attack.

Speed isn't an issue here, if Surfer is looking in the direction of my team he will be stunned.

Constructs don't protect against TP, the bands do that even when he's asleep ... telepaths cannot get past it.

Originally posted by Loot
force bubble are not allowed if they kill instantly, not if they only hurt. tp shut downs are also forbiden, but tp is allowed anyway, its the same thing.

If a force bubble is opened inside someone's skull it is a OHKO ... but it doesn't matter as Invisible Woman can't aim when she is blind.

Originally posted by Loot
and for the last time, does surfer needs to use his matter manipulation powers to create sunglasses for my team? or you will realize you will not be blinding my team.

Actually, he needs to go back in time to before the flash to do that ... but he can't do that here.

Your team is blind as you didn't anticipate being blinded during your prep.


Originally posted by Loot
Quasar is not able to react or think at surfer speed.

Quasar catching Surfer as he tries to get away:



Runner speed >>> Surfer speed

Runner speed = Makkari speed

Quasar catching Makkari:

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/7506/reflexes14sm.th.jpg http://img457.imageshack.us/img457/6951/reflexes26ry.th.jpg

Surfer is no faster than Quasar.

dammit ... here's the last part of that again as one of the images didn't work.

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Originally posted by Loot
Quasar is not able to react or think at surfer speed.

Quasar catching Surfer as he tries to get away:

http://img479.imageshack.us/img479/1847/quasarspeed1b3mj.th.jpg

Runner speed >>> Surfer speed

Runner speed = Makkari speed

Quasar catching Makkari:

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/7506/reflexes14sm.th.jpg http://img457.imageshack.us/img457/6951/reflexes26ry.th.jpg

Surfer is no faster than Quasar.

the sunglasses thing was a joke, you still believe surfer will be stunned i have no idea how. Since like iīve stated heīs faster then light. and he never showed having problem with light, you have no idea how is vision even works, not to mention surfer senses are amazing like iīve showed in previous posts

IW its not creating just a bubble inside her head, its like grappling hooks, she did it to doom, doom is alive, it isnīt a instanteneous KO.

Err quasar didnīt catch surfer, he created a construct to catch surfer, you could at least say his consctruct are as fast as surfer, NOT him, quasar used that strategie because he wasnīt able to catch up with surfer

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/SurferandQuasar.jpg


iīm not fighting Makkari, and why is him as fast as runner?
Bottom line is, everytime quasar and surfer appear together, never quasar showed to be faster then surfer, althou surfer as showed to be faster

Makkari raced Runner in some big space race and they both performed about the same.... but Makkari won the race (Quasar #58 I don't have it)


But speed isn't the deciding factor, the flash is going to be thousands of times brighter than the brightest star ... even Surfer's eyes take in electromagnetic energy, hence he will be momentarily stunned ... IW and co will be completely blind as their retinas will have burned out.

Originally posted by Scoobless
Makkari raced Runner in some big space race and they both performed about the same.... but Makkari won the race (Quasar #58 I don't have it)


But speed isn't the deciding factor, the flash is going to be thousands of times brighter than the brightest star ... even Surfer's eyes take in electromagnetic energy, hence he will be momentarily stunned ... IW and co will be completely blind as their retinas will have burned out.

err my team will not be there, and you have no proof that it will do something to surfer, ans surfer will be able to catch quasar before he does so (faster then l i g h t reaction etc etc)

i was thinking, a good way to play this, would be, when the fight began, surfer would not simply hit quasar he would take him far away from their team, fighting in somple place distante, where your team will not be able to reach us (the planet is to big for your telepaths). And then or surfer would take quasar to where my tram is, or my team would teleport after receiving a tp message form surfer, either way my team facing quasar, after we defeat him, with surfer senses knowing where your team is, its easy.

Blinded or not (probably not) the light will still take up all of Surfer's vision which means that, for a few moments, he wont be able to see my team.

This light is being released the moment the match starts, and that Makkari feat (and the snagging Surfer feat), proves Quasar reacts faster than the likes of Spawn

So even if he still teleports your guys are blind ... they are starting very close in this match and there's no way to avoid this all-encompasing flash.

its not probably, its not pure and simple, even if it did blind him he could heal, but he wonīt.

quasar is faster then spawn, but not surfer, and surfer will hit him while spawn teleports and theres no blinding to anyone.
not to mention spawn would easily recover, but surfer can heal my team, if theyīre blind surfer can heal them. but they will not be blind.

The Flash is happening ... and it's happening the instant the match starts ... Surfer may be fast but so is Quasar .... there's nothing he can do to stop it.

And from what you've posted so far, Surfer isn't going to be anywhere near the rest of his team after they teleport, he's not healing anyone.

timeline:

first instant - match starts - quasar pulls flash trick - 6/7 of your team are blind

second instant Surfer reacts but can't see my team

third instant - Spawn teleports your guys away

fourth instant - Quasar knocks surfer off his board with the energy of the sun in concussive blast form

fifth instant - my team Q-jumps after your team and proceeds to kill them

some point later - Surfer reappears to find my team shielded, your team dead and he has to fight all of them at once.

Quasar (fully armoured) fights Surfer with all of his own power + the power of the sun while Psylocke and Mimic psi-blast his head through the whole thing.

A minute later - Surfer is knocked out

Vote Loot!:da
nce:.

If the flash is made of light, which is what I'm assuming, then it would be easy to escape from it if you are way faster than light, right? I mean, light is even slower through air than it is in the space, and the fight takes place on earth.

Originally posted by Bentley
If the flash is made of light, which is what I'm assuming, then it would be easy to escape from it if you are way faster than light, right? I mean, light is even slower through air than it is in the space, and the fight takes place on earth.

How can he escape something that he hasn't seen?

If he has seen it then it's had all the effect that I'm looking for (which is basically just a large distraction in Surfer's case)

And Surfer may have great reactions, but he can't react to something he doesn't know is coming.

There will no extensions for this match. This match will end Wednesday 8:30 PM US CENTRAL TIME. All votes after 8:30 US CENTRAL TIME will not be counted. Whomever has the most votes by 8:30 PM US CENTRAL TIME will be crowned Champion regardless of the total number of votes.
-Evangel94

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Go Roldz.

woot

Originally posted by Scoobless
How can he escape something that he hasn't seen?

If he has seen it then it's had all the effect that I'm looking for (which is basically just a large distraction in Surfer's case)

And Surfer may have great reactions, but he can't react to something he doesn't know is coming.

you didnīt read my prep? the first thing that surfer does is attack quasar he wonīt even let quasar use this light trick, or even if he could my team would be away already.
He can do it because my first attack is faster then yours, surfer is faster then light.

And surfer will be separated of my team in the begiining of the fight, read what iīve posted before, its not forever, its a plan of attack.

Originally posted by Loot
you didnīt read my prep? the first thing that surfer does is attack quasar he wonīt even let quasar use this light trick, or even if he could my team would be away already.

The first thing that Quasar does is release the flash .... your idea involves travelling the distance between us, mine doesn't ... and as Quasar has excellent reflexes he WILL be able to release the light.

Originally posted by Loot
He can do it because my first attack is faster then yours, surfer is faster then light.

So is Quasar ... but that's completely irrelevant at the moment.

Quasar is around the same speed as Surfer = he will easily pull this trick off.

Quasar is definitely faster than Spawn = your team is blind.

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Surfer's speed does not have an impact on my first move of this match.

Your team will be blinded and Surfer will be distracted for a few seconds.

That is more than enough time for my team to jump after your blind team and waste them.

Surfer ends up alone and has two telepaths messing with his head while Quasar pounds the crap out of him.

I donīt see it happening, you say quasar is as fast as surfer, although i disagree, it doensīt matter, your attack depends on the speed of light. Surfer has a big distance? we both start in new york, surfer is way faster then light, he will reach you, and with his superior senses when he punches you he will know you are storing solar energy.

And can you release the light without blinding your team mates?
not to mention at the beginning of the fight we are protected by sue storm force field and will be immediately teletransported.

Well, it is Wednesday. My vote goes to Scoobless.

Originally posted by Loot
your attack depends on the speed of light.

No, it relies on your team having eyes ... which they do ... you've said yourself over and over that Surfer is going to attack asap ... which means he has to be looking in the direction of my guys ... which means the light will be directly in front of him.

Originally posted by Loot
And can you release the light without blinding your team mates?
not to mention at the beginning of the fight we are protected by sue storm force field and will be immediately teletransported.

Yes, my team is protected, go read the prep stuff.

invisible force fields do absolutely nothing to block light and Quasar is way faster than Spawn.

Originally posted by Scoobless
No, it relies on your team having eyes ... which they do ... you've said yourself over and over that Surfer is going to attack asap ... which means he has to be looking in the direction of my guys ... which means the light will be directly in front of him.



Yes, my team is protected, go read the prep stuff.

invisible force fields do absolutely nothing to block light and Quasar is way faster than Spawn.

surfer doensīt use his eyes to sense quasar, he doesnīt have to be looking for your team. he can sense them, he can instantly attack quasar, i have showed the speed of his toughs and reflexes and are well above light


about surfer senses, do you see him looking for any of these thing with his eyes?

Here is surfer saying that he can listen the whisper of a butterflyīs wing a galaxy away:
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/.../MCP-069-27.jpg
here he says he can listen to the sound of a meteorite a thousand lightyears away:
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/...Hulk_415-02.jpg
stating that he is cosmically aware:
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/...r_v3_004-18.jpg

not to mention you have no proof this light would make surfer distracted, he never showed problems, and you donīt know how is vision works.

I'll vote loot.

My vote goes to Scoobless.

Originally posted by Scoobless

invisible force fields do absolutely nothing to block light and Quasar is way faster than Spawn.

actually they can protect our eyes from burning, we wouldn be seeing because outside is only light but we would be protected time enough to teleport. Still it wonīt be necessary like iīve stated

Originally posted by Loot
surfer doensīt use his eyes to sense quasar

Of course he does.

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/2811/vision9wp.th.jpg

He still needs to locate us before he can do anything, Quasar does not, so the first move advantage goes to Quasar.

Originally posted by Loot
actually they can protect our eyes from burning.

No they can't ... invisible shields don't stop light ... that's just common sense, it'd be like trying to block it with a pane of glass.

Voting Loot

Guess third times a charm

Ok ... I'll go back over some of the basics.

Surfer isn't hurting Quasar with his prepped armour on.:

http://img277.imageshack.us/img277/1325/quasar050336qc.th.jpg http://img277.imageshack.us/img277/4175/quasar050343zo.th.jpg http://img277.imageshack.us/img277/2900/quasar050387iq.th.jpg

If, somehow, Surfer isn't affected by the light blast that's brighter than anything he has ever seen (which is bloody unlikely) then a simple shield will still keep him off our backs long enough for the rest of our plan to work:

http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/7806/fantasticfour522080ao.th.jpg http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/2442/fantasticfour522126em.th.jpg

Once we've followed and taken out the blind teleporters, we have a couple of these over everyone but Quasar:

http://img480.imageshack.us/img480/8203/quasar38137pe.th.jpg

And just to show that Quasar can throw physical as well as energy attacks in an instant:

http://img321.imageshack.us/img321/9435/quasaravengersinfinity0vc8.th.jpg http://img334.imageshack.us/img334/4277/quasaravengersinfinity0mk1.th.jpg

The sad thing of this battle is that Loot has improved a lot, so he has a good fair shot to win, but Scoobless won two times against him already and to lose at this point would royally suck.

Originally posted by Scoobless
And just to show that Quasar can throw physical as well as energy attacks in an instant:

http://img321.imageshack.us/img321/9435/quasaravengersinfinity0vc8.th.jpg http://img334.imageshack.us/img334/4277/quasaravengersinfinity0mk1.th.jpg

Which continues on to this point - Surfer has often been knocked out by sheer brute force:

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/3901/ko39ze.th.jpg

Including simple things like meteors:

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/9031/ko18ln.th.jpg http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/727/ko21xe.th.jpg

Quasar's ability to create constructs to smack Surfer around with is unlimited and will do far more damage than a few rocks floating through space.

Originally posted by Scoobless
Of course he does.

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/2811/vision9wp.th.jpg

He still needs to locate us before he can do anything, Quasar does not, so the first move advantage goes to Quasar.



No they can't ... invisible shields don't stop light ... that's just common sense, it'd be like trying to block it with a pane of glass.

just because he can use his eyes, doesnīt mean he always have to use it, as i post in previous scans he can sense things and is not staring at them, he has done it several times.
And as you showen in this scan surfer can adapt his vision, he can change it to sub atomic, electromagnetic you name it. Still is healing and adpative powers being incredible, i still think the decisive factor is that he is indeed muach faster then light, and i already showed is monstrous abbilitie at sensing anyhthig. he will attack quasar and separate him from your team.

plus surfer is the only one who has the abbilitie to send a tp message to someone in the other half of the globe.

about iw shields, canīt they reflect the light? glasses was a good example but sun glasses are able to protect, canīt she change the properties of the shield.
you donīt have by the way a situation where this as happen, because IW shields has stood up against galactus and have many impressive feats. i still think your not capable of beat me that way, i will teleport, even spawn doesnīt need to see if heīs right at the begining of the battle prepared to teleport, and quasar canīt pass trough surfer to hit him, your team is not fast enough to get there, and i am protected by IW shield.

ok tell me if this is a crazy idea, but being surfer silver and all, wouldnīt the light reflect in his body thus blinding quasar as well? just a tough

Originally posted by Loot
just because he can use his eyes, doesnīt mean he always have to use it, as i post in previous scans he can sense things and is not staring at them, he has done it several times.

Surfer always uses his eyes before his other senses.

And whenever uses the others he's not moving or attacking anything ... just standing on his board, concentrating.

Originally posted by Loot
And as you showen in this scan surfer can adapt his vision, he can change it to sub atomic, electromagnetic you name it.

Yes, he can see in all the electromagnetic frequencies ... but Quasar is sending this flash out on every one of those frequencies ... so the result is that his vision is temporarily impaired.

Originally posted by Loot
about iw shields, canīt they reflect the light?

No, the shield is invisible, it doesn't effet light in any way whatsoever.

Originally posted by Loot
i will teleport, even spawn doesnīt need to see if heīs right at the begining of the battle prepared to teleport, and Quasar canīt pass trough surfer to hit him, your team is not fast enough to get there, and i am protected by IW shield.

You teleport, I block Surfer, I teleport (Quantum Jump) after you ... no need to "go through" Surfer to do that.

IW's shield is useless for blocking light and she can't see so she can't use it offensively.

Originally posted by Loot
ok tell me if this is a crazy idea, but being surfer silver and all, wouldnīt the light reflect in his body thus blinding quasar as well? just a tough

That's crazy.



esides, Quasar prepped visors for our team so they wouldn't be blind ... unlike your guys.

Originally posted by Scoobless
Surfer always uses his eyes before his other senses.

/B]

incorrect again, i donīt want to repeate the same scans iīve used to prove this wrong, so hereīs another one:

Feel in vacuum that something is moving behind him, he is not using his vision:
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/MCP-069-29.jpg


And you wonīt be blocking surfer.
And leaving your team alone is a bad move, surfer would murdered him all. Assuming you can escape surfer attacks, you first have to catch surfer in a construct, witch will be difficult since he has the all planet to move freely, and your constructs canīt hold him forever.

plus in the prep you had two hours to make what? 7 shields? thats like 17 minutes to each force field, this assuming your not using the quantum bands to store the solar energy. But your saying he will store the energy, how much energy would he store? how much time would he spend? lets say 30 minutes that makes 12.9 minutes for each construct protecting your team. your constructs will not be that powerful.
has seen surfer destroyed easily a quasar construct
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/CosmicPowersUnlimited05-10.jpg

Surfer also as force fields he can also lock quasar in a shield as well.
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_v3_095_15.jpg
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_1995_110_16.jpg
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_v3_134p08.jpg
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_1997_125_26.jpg

Surfer can attack a person inside theyīre body, so even if your team is protected by qausar cosntructs he can easily and very fast do this:
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Cosmic_Powers_Unlimited_03_21.jpg

Originally posted by Loot
plus in the prep you had two hours to make what? 7 shields? thats like 17 minutes to each force field, this assuming your not using the quantum bands to store the solar energy. But your saying he will store the energy, how much energy would he store? how much time would he spend? lets say 30 minutes that makes 12.9 minutes for each construct protecting your team. your constructs will not be that powerful.


Originally posted by Scoobless


esides, Quasar prepped visors for our team so they wouldn't be blind ... unlike your guys.

more time to contruct this visors, the more stuff you create the weaker are your force fields

and if quasar can construct them trough his force fields, why canīt iw protect as well? different type of force fields but how do you know for sure one can protect and the other canīt? you donīt

Originally posted by Loot
Feel in vacuum that something is moving behind him, he is not using his vision:
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/MCP-069-29.jpg

He heard a few zombie types walking along behind him ... so what? but a great point is that he didn't manage to react in time to avoid them ... so thanks for that.

Originally posted by Loot
And you wonīt be blocking surfer.

Yes I will ... one simple shield is all it takes to pause him long enough for a teleport.

Originally posted by Loot
And leaving your team alone is a bad move

Who said anything about leaving them? I've said, quite a few times, that my entire team will be Q-jumping right after your, blinded, team.

Originally posted by Loot
plus in the prep you had two hours to make what? 7 shields?

7 suits of Quantum armour actually

Originally posted by Loot
how much time would he spend? lets say 30 minutes that makes 12.9 minutes for each construct protecting your team. your constructs will not be that powerful.

More than powerful enough ... shields created in a second have stood up to the combined powers of Thor, Hulk, Hercules, the X-Men, Avengers, etc ... also the Imperial Guard..... and Galactus

http://img480.imageshack.us/img480/8203/quasar38137pe.th.jpg

http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/7806/fantasticfour522080ao.th.jpg

I said all this about 2 or 3 posts ago .... are you just ignoring it all and making assumptions over what I'll be doing?


Originally posted by Loot
Surfer also as force fields he can also lock quasar in a shield as well.

Great ... so after all the other things you've had Surfer attempt to do so far in the first instance of the match, you're now adding shield bubbles to the list?



It wont work. My team is all standing together during the flash that is blinding your team ... when you teleport we all go after them ... doesn't matter if Surfer creates a bubble as we're jumping through space and have no need to go through the bubble.


Originally posted by Loot
Surfer can attack a person inside theyīre body, so even if your team is protected by qausar cosntructs he can easily and very fast do this:
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Cosmic_Powers_Unlimited_03_21.jpg

No he can't, the energy that is required for him to reach into our bodies wont penetrate our armour or shields.

Originally posted by Loot
more time to contruct this visors, the more stuff you create the weaker are your force fields

2 hours of prep - 1 second force fields >>>> every earth hero ... I'm not worried about their strength.

Visors take less effort than force field or armour as they only have to filter the light.

Originally posted by Loot
and if quasar can construct them trough his force fields, why canīt iw protect as well? different type of force fields but how do you know for sure one can protect and the other canīt? you donīt

Because Invisible Woman creates invisible shields and light passes through things that are invisible.



Why can't you understand that something invisible can't block light? it's pretty damn obvious.

Originally posted by Bentley
The sad thing of this battle is that Loot has improved a lot, so he has a good fair shot to win, but Scoobless won two times against him already and to lose at this point would royally suck.

Indeed it would.

I'll vote Scoobless

I think he's done better this match vs. Loot then he did last...

you are putting word in my speech, i didnīt said like the last time anything about surfer shields in prep, beacuse i will use them during the fight. just like quasar.

and why do ypu say that surfer doensīt have the energie necessary to attack inside your body?

i donīt need iw shields to protect my eyes, when i have someone who can reach you faster then your attack, surfer is way faster then light, and that gives me time to teleport instantly.

Surfer attacking quasar wonīt let him do much he has to concentrate to face the surfer.

you team is alone and donīt know where the rest of us are.

Originally posted by Scoobless
Indeed it would.



of course it would, but the place where the match ocurrs has been also changing, we have memory of the previous fight, its not impossible or ridiculous

Originally posted by Loot
you are putting word in my speech, i didnīt said like the last time anything about surfer shields in prep, beacuse i will use them during the fight. just like quasar.

You didn't say anything about shields in your initial attack either.

Originally posted by Loot
and why do ypu say that surfer doensīt have the energie necessary to attack inside your body?

I'm saying his energy can't pass through Quasar's protective armour and shields.

Originally posted by Loot
i donīt need iw shields to protect my eyes, when i have someone who can reach you faster then your attack, surfer is way faster then light, and that gives me time to teleport instantly.

He can't reach me before I use the attack though ... and anything later is worthless. 6 of your team are blind.

Originally posted by Loot
Surfer attacking quasar wonīt let him do much he has to concentrate to face the surfer.

No, he just needs to hold him off with a shield for one moment so we can teleport.

Voting scoobless

Originally posted by Scoobless
You didn't say anything about shields in your initial attack either.



I'm saying his energy can't pass through Quasar's protective armour and shields.



He can't reach me before I use the attack though ... and anything later is worthless. 6 of your team are blind.



No, he just needs to hold him off with a shield for one moment so we can teleport.

being surfer much faster then light you still think it would work, you wonīt change your mind.
you donīt know his energy canīt do that. he can create cosmic energy inside something like IW can create a force bubble inside soething too.
even if you could blind me it wouldnīt be 6, it would be 5, but you canīt and surfer can heal them.
Surfer will attack quasar qith all he got, i didnīt specified how they would fight, iīm saying he can use every power he has force filed including. he will attack quasar and separate him from his team, while theyīre fighting your team will have trouble of his own being teleported one by one by spawn.
or in case surfer is able to take quasar to qhere my team heīs he will have to face them solo, and when he loose, no one on your team is capable of facing surfer.

Can anyone vote? Or are their judges assigned...If its the former then I vote Scoobles.

Originally posted by Board Walker
Can anyone vote? Or are their judges assigned...If its the former then I vote Scoobles.

I have the same question, and if votes count I will actually vote loot, but it is super close.

The only rules are that you need to be either in the tourney or have 800 posts or more to vote.

You are making quasar more then he is, saying he is a better manipulator of energy, wich is false, he can redirect and absorb energy and thatīs it, now surfer can absorb, manipulate, convert thos energies into diferent types of energies, his power cosmic give him more variaty in terms of power then quasar.

spawn can always heal his eyes and can teleport to the bottom of the ocean memeber by member, personally i think spawn can take mimic, and using magic will help since quasar constructs are affected by it.
and a fight inside water is an advantage for spawn since your team needs to breath.

and theres nothing stating that its not possible to surfer to create numerous boards, to attack quasar, he has to catch them all in force fields, and thats alot of boards.

Quasar IS a better energy manipulator .... the Quantum bands have unlimited capacity for both absorbing and channeling energy .... Surfer does not.

Quasar can draw a lot more energy to use than Surfer can for every part of the electromagnetic spectrum, plus he uses Quantum energy, which is alien to the 616 universe and can only be used by the person wearing the Quantum bands (or the Infinity Gauntlet) and is what the solid constructs are made from .... which is why Surfer can't absorb them.

but surfer can use energy in more ways then quasar.

and quasar constructs are vulnerable to magic, and i have someone who can use magic in my team.

You have a blind guy on your team who can use magig.

I have a powerful telepath on my team who can fly around the world in less than a second and cream your whole team before they know he's there.

Not that he has to as we're all telelporting together ... but if we get delayed by more than a second it's an option.

..

Originally posted by Scoobless
You have a blind guy on your team who can use magig.

I have a powerful telepath on my team who can fly around the world in less than a second and cream your whole team before they know he's there.

Not that he has to as we're all telelporting together ... but if we get delayed by more than a second it's an option.

i blind guy who can use magic? Spawn can heal his eyes, no heīs not blind.

a powerful telepath? that can fly around the world in less then a second? really? who heīs he? since the top telepaty levels for enhanced meta characters are jean grey or cable with tech organic level, and mimic only has 50% of that abbilitie. and fly around the world in less then a second mimic? lolol no way impossible not even northsar can do it, and mimi only has 50% of northstar speed.

you have an amazing team, but youīre putting them above their real power

Northstar can fly at 99% lightspeed .... he normally doesn't as the friction is harmful to him

Mimic can hit half that speed and his durability is massively superior to Northstar's ... he also has quantum armour and can use his TK to create an aerodynamic sheath - he can easily fly to the furthest away point on the planet in a second.

his team canīt keep up with his speed, the rest of your team doensīt fly and their not very fast, i mean if mimic found my team it would be on solo so it would be a good thing, less trouble to my team in finding mimic, since he would be facing them alone.

1 hour and 10 minutes left in this match.

Anyone who still wishes to vote, please do so before 8:30 PM US CENTRAL TIME.

-Evangel94

If I can vote I give one to Loot

after being coerced into voting, I'm saying:

Scoob

now where is that bag of... laundry... I was promised?

Third times the charm...
Best three out of three...

Originally posted by inamilist
after being coerced into voting, I'm saying:

Scoob

now where is that bag of... laundry... I was promised?

Coerced? Who exactly were you coerced to vote by?

If I even suspect cheating, the participant involved will be disqualified.

This thread will not end until I get a response from you.

Originally posted by Evangel94
Coerced? Who exactly were you coerced to vote by?

This thread will not end until I get a response from you. If I even suspect cheating, the participant involved will be disqualified.

hahaha, nonono

its a little joke

how could someone really coerce me over an internet forum?

Originally posted by Loot
his team canīt keep up with his speed, the rest of your team doensīt fly and their not very fast, i mean if mimic found my team it would be on solo so it would be a good thing, less trouble to my team in finding mimic, since he would be facing them alone.

He could easily TK carry a couple of guys with him ... and within moments of arriving Quasar would be popping in with the rest of the team.

The fact that your guys are all blind makes it easy to take them out with little effort.

Originally posted by Evangel94
Coerced? Who exactly were you coerced to vote by?

If I even suspect cheating, the participant involved will be disqualified.

This thread will not end until I get a response from you.

Scoob doesn't cheat...he's actually spoken out against stuff like that once or twice in past tourneys.

I'm not saying I have any proof one way or the other, and I realize you want a response (which is fine), but I think innocent until proven guilty should apply in this scenario.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Scoob doesn't cheat...he's actually spoken out against stuff like that once or twice in past tourneys.

I'm not saying I have any proof one way or the other, and I realize you want a response (which is fine), but I think innocent until proven guilty should apply in this scenario.

I never directly mentioned scoobless or loot in my post. But if I did suspect there was cheating (given sufficient evidence obviously) going on, then I would have disqualified that participant already. As it stands I made no accusation what-so-ever. And I already received my response that I requested.

15 minutes to go.

Current Vote standing as of right now.

DarkCrawler - Scoobless
"v" - Scoobless
SpunkySmurph - Scoobless
Devil Lance - Scoobless
Board Walker - Scoobless


hulk10 - Loot
Soljier - Loot
Blair Wind - Loot

Unless Loot can gather together two more votes within the next eight minutes, it seems as if he is done for.

For the third time. .

5 minute minutes left in the match.

Time is up!

Vote standing for this match

DarkCrawler - Scoobless
"v" - Scoobless
SpunkySmurph - Scoobless
Devil Lance - Scoobless
Board Walker - Scoobless


hulk10 - Loot
Soljier - Loot
Blair Wind – Loot

Scoobless has defeated Loot in a 5 to 3 vote.

I officially declare Scoobless the winner of this match and grant him the title of

”The 2nd Slugfest Showdown Undisputed Champion.”

------------------------------------

Thank you to everyone who participated and vote in this tournament. I could not do it without your support.

My thanks goes out to all the participants:

Laminator_X
Typhus
Scoobless
King Kandy
Hulk10
Roldz
Stormfront13
Tony Stark
TricksterPriest
B Dot Rob
StarsNeverFall7
And Loot.

Also, I give my appreciation to DigiMark007 for constantly pasting and removing the various slugfest tournament threads.

And finally to all those who voted, your help was much appreciated.

The Evangel94 2nd Slugfest Showdown Tournament is now over. I officially declare this match over, and this tournament complete.

-Evangel94

Voting for Loot.

Nah, good job Evangel. Congrats to Scoob. And nice job to everyone who entered, especially Loot....not many people would line up 3 times against the same person. And they were all valiant efforts.

And I wathced quite a bit of the tourney, but removed myself from voting due to possible bias (since my partner for the other tourney was in it, I didn't want to be accused of anything). But it was a good time. No tourney's perfect, but they always seem to be fun.

Good game Loot (and everyone else who took part)

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beerw00t


herbdance


ninjascot

it was too bad that Stupid Rookie and Brian Oswald, didnīt had 800 posts. But thank you for the support anyway.
Thanks to blair and soljer iīve seen you debate so your vote counts alot.
thanks hulk for his support, he voted for my everytime.
And finnaly thanks to evangel for the tournament and scoobs for the great fights.

Congrats to the champion, and i have a question for him mimic or gideon?

Originally posted by Loot
mimic or gideon?

lol

I know very little about Gideon ... how many powers can he take at a time? I'm sure I once saw him defeated but far less powerful people though.

donīt know much about him either, but he was an External, only a fatal wound like a decapitation could kill him.
I donīt know if he has limitations in absorbing a number of powers the problem is that he has to be nearby the person that has the power.
he also can copy a power of a mechanical being.

But he has in is house genetic codes of persons with powers so he could copy them and train, i read something like this somewhere, not sure.