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who is the best long distance shooter of all time? i am not talking percentage, more along the lines of clutch shooting.

as far as hitting 3 to 4 3 pointers a game, it has to be dale ellis...heres some of his stats:


Dale Ellis
Season statistics & Notes Season splits Game-by-game stats Bio Printable player file


Career Highlights
Led the NBA in 1997-98 with a .464 three-point shooting percentage
Closed the 1997-98 season as the NBA's all-time leader in three-pointers made (1,588) and attempted (3,949)
Finished third in the AT&T Shootout during the 1998 NBA All-Star Weekend in New York
Scored 14 points, hitting the 1,500th three-pointer of his career, against the Golden St. Warriors on 12/20/97
Led the Nuggets in 1996-97 in three-pointers made (192) and attempted (528), establishing career-highs in both categories
Scored his 17,000th career point against the Toronto Raptors on 2/25/97
Named NBA Player of the Week for week ending 11/17/96, averaging 30.4 ppg and shooting .525 (21-of-40) from three-point range
Registered a 1996-97 season-high 37 points against the Toronto Raptors on 11/11/96
Scored 33 points and grabbed a career-high 14 rebounds against the Houston Rockets on 11/7/96
Led the Sonics in scoring for four straight seasons from 1986-87 to 1989-90
Earned All-NBA Third Team honors in 1988-89, averaging a career-best 27.5 ppg and 4.2 rpg
Won the NBA Long Distance Shootout during the 1989 All-Star Weekend in Houston, also participating in 1986-1988, 1994 and 1997
Scored 27 points (12-16 FG) in the 1989 NBA All-Star Game
Scored a career-high 53 points, for Seattle, against the Milwaukee Bucks on 11/9/89
Earned the NBA Most Improved Player Award in 1986-87, averaging 24.9 ppg, 8th in the NBA

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2001-02 Statistics
REBOUNDS PER GAME
G GS MPG FGM-A FG% 3PM-A 3P% FTM-A FT% OFF DEF TOT APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG
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CAREER AVERAGES
REBOUNDS PER GAME
YEAR TEAM G GS MPG FG% 3P% FT% OFF DEF RPG APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG
83-84 DAL 67 2 15.8 .456 .414 .719 1.60 2.10 3.70 .8 .61 .13 1.16 1.80 8.2
84-85 DAL 72 4 18.3 .454 .385 .740 1.40 1.90 3.30 .8 .64 .10 .81 1.80 9.3
85-86 DAL 72 1 15.1 .411 .364 .720 1.20 1.10 2.30 .5 .56 .13 .53 1.10 7.1
86-87 SEA 82 76 37.5 .516 .358 .787 2.30 3.20 5.50 2.9 1.27 .39 2.90 3.30 24.9
87-88 SEA 75 73 37.2 .503 .413 .767 2.20 2.30 4.50 2.6 .99 .15 2.29 2.90 25.8
88-89 SEA 82 82 38.9 .501 .478 .816 1.90 2.30 4.20 2.0 1.32 .27 2.66 2.40 27.5
89-90 SEA 55 49 37.0 .497 .375 .818 1.60 2.70 4.30 2.0 1.07 .13 2.16 2.30 23.5
90-91 MIL 21 0 29.7 .486 .441 .707 1.80 2.00 3.90 1.5 .76 .24 1.52 2.50 19.3
90-91 SEA 30 24 26.7 .463 .303 .738 .90 2.10 3.10 2.1 1.10 .10 1.63 2.00 15.0
91-92 MIL 81 11 27.0 .469 .419 .774 1.10 2.00 3.10 1.3 .70 .22 1.47 1.90 15.7
92-93 SAS 82 76 33.3 .499 .401 .797 1.00 2.80 3.80 1.3 .95 .22 1.35 2.20 16.7
93-94 SAS 77 75 33.6 .494 .395 .776 .90 2.40 3.30 1.0 .86 .14 .97 1.80 15.2
94-95 DEN 81 3 24.6 .453 .403 .866 .70 2.00 2.70 .7 .46 .11 1.00 1.80 11.3
95-96 DEN 81 52 32.4 .479 .412 .760 1.10 2.80 3.90 1.7 .70 .09 1.21 2.40 14.9
96-97 DEN 82 51 35.9 .414 .364 .817 1.20 2.40 3.60 2.0 .73 .09 1.78 2.20 16.6
97-98 SEA 79 0 24.5 .497 .464 .782 .60 1.70 2.30 1.1 .76 .06 .94 1.60 11.8
98-99 SEA 48 5 25.7 .441 .433 .757 .50 1.90 2.40 .8 .52 .06 .94 1.60 10.3
99-00 CHA 24 5 10.0 .328 .400 .750 .30 .70 .90 .3 .29 .00 .54 .90 2.3
99-00 MIL 18 0 18.0 .465 .354 .667 .40 1.50 1.90 .3 .33 .00 .39 1.30 6.8
Career 1,209 589 28.8 .479 .403 .784 1.30 2.20 3.50 1.4 .81 .15 1.46 2.10 15.7
Playoff 73 43 27.1 .443 .351 .784 1.50 2.20 3.70 1.3 .70 .19 1.33 2.20 13.8
All-Star 1 1 26.0 .750 1.000 1.000 3.00 3.00 6.00 2.0 .00 .00 2.00 2.00 27.0



CAREER TOTALS
REBOUNDS
YEAR TEAM G GS MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OFF DEF TOT AST STL BLK TO PF PTS
83-84 DAL 67 2 1,059 225-493 12-29 87-121 106 144 250 56 41 9 78 118 549
84-85 DAL 72 4 1,314 274-603 42-109 77-104 100 138 238 56 46 7 58 131 667
85-86 DAL 72 1 1,086 193-470 63-173 59-82 86 82 168 37 40 9 38 78 508
86-87 SEA 82 76 3,073 785-1,520 86-240 385-489 187 260 447 238 104 32 238 267 2,041
87-88 SEA 75 73 2,790 764-1,519 107-259 303-395 167 173 340 197 74 11 172 221 1,938
88-89 SEA 82 82 3,190 857-1,710 162-339 377-462 156 186 342 164 108 22 218 197 2,253
89-90 SEA 55 49 2,033 502-1,011 96-256 193-236 90 148 238 110 59 7 119 124 1,293
90-91 MIL 21 0 624 159-327 30-68 58-82 38 43 81 31 16 5 32 53 406
90-91 SEA 30 24 800 181-391 27-89 62-84 28 64 92 64 33 3 49 59 451
91-92 MIL 81 11 2,191 485-1,034 138-329 164-212 92 161 253 104 57 18 119 151 1,272
92-93 SAS 82 76 2,731 545-1,092 119-297 157-197 81 231 312 107 78 18 111 179 1,366
93-94 SAS 77 75 2,590 478-967 131-332 83-107 70 185 255 80 66 11 75 141 1,170
94-95 DEN 81 3 1,996 351-774 106-263 110-127 56 166 222 57 37 9 81 142 918
95-96 DEN 81 52 2,626 459-959 150-364 136-179 88 227 315 139 57 7 98 191 1,204
96-97 DEN 82 51 2,940 477-1,151 192-528 215-263 99 194 293 165 60 7 146 178 1,361
97-98 SEA 79 0 1,939 348-700 127-274 111-142 51 133 184 89 60 5 74 128 934
98-99 SEA 48 5 1,232 174-395 94-217 53-70 25 90 115 38 25 3 45 77 495
99-00 CHA 24 5 240 19-58 14-35 3-4 6 16 22 8 7 0 13 22 55
99-00 MIL 18 0 324 47-101 23-65 6-9 7 27 34 6 6 0 7 23 123
Career 1,209 589 34,778 7,323-15,275 1,719-4,266 2,639-3,365 1,533 2,668 4,201 1,746 974 183 1,771 2,480 19,004
Playoff 73 43 1,981 403-909 71-202 134-171 110 163 273 92 51 14 97 163 1,011
All-Star 1 1 26 12-16 1-1 2-2 3 3 6 2 0 0 2 2 27



CAREER TRANSACTIONS
Selected by the Dallas Mavericks in the first round (ninth pick overall) of the 1983 NBA Draft. Traded by the Mavericks to the Seattle SuperSonics for Al Wood on 7/23/86. Traded by the Sonics to the Milwaukee Bucks for Ricky Pierce on 2/15/91. Traded by the Bucks to the San Antonio Spurs for the rights to Tracy Murray on 7/1/92. Signed as an unrestricted free agent by the Denver Nuggets on 10/3/94. Traded by the Nuggets to the Sonics for Greg Graham, Steve Scheffler and two future second round draft choices on 10/2/97. Traded by the Sonics with Billy Owens, Don MacLean and the draft rights to Corey Maggette to the Orlando Magic for Horace Grant and two future second-round draft choices on 6/30/99. Traded by the Magic along with Danny Manning to the Milwaukee Bucks for Chris Gatling and Armen Gilliam on 8/19/99. Traded by the Bucks to the Charlotte Hornets in exchange for second-round draft picks in 2000 and 2002 on 1/19/00. Traded by the Hornets with Anthony Mason, Eddie Jones, and Ricky Davis to the Miami Heat for P.J. Brown, Jamal Mashburn, Tim James, Rodney Buford and Otis Thorpe on 8/1/00.




Season Highs / Career Highs
2001-02 HIGHS CAREER HIGHS
Points null 53 @ Milwaukee 11/09/89
Field Goals Made null 20 vs. Sacramento 1/05/89
Field Goals Attempted null 39 @ Milwaukee 11/09/89
Three Point Field Goals Made null 9 vs. L.A. Clippers 4/20/90
Three Point Field Goals Attempted null 12 3 Times
Free Throws Made null 17 @ Utah 11/04/88
Free Throws Attempted null 19 @ Utah11/04/88
Offensive Rebounds null 9 2 Times
Defensive Rebounds null 9 2 Times
Total Rebounds null 14 vs. Houston 11/07/96
Assists null 9 3 Times
Steals null 5 6 Times
Blocks null 2 12 Times
Minutes Played null 69 @ Milwaukee 11/09/89

now if we are talking "get the ball to this guy", someone who always hits the clutch shot, its gotta be mario elie. heres some of his work:


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This one is a no brainer, espicially if you're talkin clutch, Reggie Miller.

Frist one that came to my mind was Bird. But, I'd throw in Reggie Miller and Ray Allen too.

Anyone ever see Craig Hodges of the Bulls hit 19 in a row in the 3 point contest? ...just, pure and plain, sick.

Wow, yea, I completely forget about Bird

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
who is the best long distance shooter of all time? i am not talking percentage, more along the lines of clutch shooting.

steve kerr i went to pali with him

Isn't there another thread just like this?

i thought about kerr and reggie, but i still think dale ellis was better.

Ray Allen and Reggie Miller.

1. Reggie
2. Bird
3. Kerr

I want to throw in Dan Majerle for "best long distance shooter of all time". Not necessarily best 3 point shooter, but if the clock was running down and the shot was half court or further, definitely Thunder Dan.

Mark Price certainly deserves a mention and probably had the most perfect shooting mechanics i have ever seen. When my kids are old enough to play i'll be showing them old tapes of Price to learn how to have the perfect form.

michael cooper was the one who started it all, big guys shooting long distance. him and bird.

Originally posted by Myth
I want to throw in Dan Majerle for "best long distance shooter of all time". Not necessarily best 3 point shooter, but if the clock was running down and the shot was half court or further, definitely Thunder Dan.

Agreed. You don't have to throw it in. It's a fact. He was its best "furthest" 3 point shooter, if that makes sense. He didn't take 3 pointers, he took 3 pointers + 7/8 more feet further back and drained consistently.

Amazingly disgusting.

Reggie Miller hands down.

dale ellis was a better scorer than reggie.

Dale Ellis was not a better score than Miller, or a better 3 pt shooter.

Originally posted by wuTa
Dale Ellis was not a better score than Miller, or a better 3 pt shooter.
dale ellis was a sixth man, of course he didnt score as much.

Than how could you say he is a better score?

i only said he is a better shooter.

Than this must have been a typo.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
dale ellis was a better scorer than reggie.



And Ellis wasn't a better shooter. Reggie is one of the best pure shooters of alltime, very few can match his shooting ability.

reggie? one of the best of all time? hardly. i'd say maybe top 20.

Wow, either you have watched any Indiana Pacers game in the last 20 years, or you you don't know much about NBA basketball. At the very least he is top 5.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
reggie? one of the best of all time? hardly. i'd say maybe top 20.

Wow, how ignorant are you?

Plus, just a little while ago you said "i thought about kerr and reggie, but i still think dale ellis was better."

He was one of the first that came to your mind and now you drop him to just top 20? That just doesn't make any sense.

Originally posted by Myth
Wow, how ignorant are you?

Plus, just a little while ago you said "i thought about kerr and reggie, but i still think dale ellis was better."

He was one of the first that came to your mind and now you drop him to just top 20? That just doesn't make any sense.
that was a typo, i meant 10. dont get your panties in a knot.
when i think about this, i think "who would i want on my team if i needed a big 3?"
i think dale ellis. you guys think reggie, thats all well and good.

Originally posted by wuTa
Wow, either you have watched any Indiana Pacers game in the last 20 years, or you you don't know much about NBA basketball. At the very least he is top 5.
nah, i grew up on the NBA. i played basketball religiously til i started spraining my ankles. reggie miller is good, just not my personal choice as the best.
he tended to rely too much on his 3 point shooting.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
reggie? one of the best of all time? hardly. i'd say maybe top 20.

Sorry, he is one its best pure shooters....ever.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
he tended to rely too much on his 3 point shooting.

Isn't this the best 3 point shooter of all time thread(and specifically clutch shooting)? Shooting(from anywhere not just 3s), clutch, and 3s all spell Reggie Miller.

Originally posted by wuTa
Isn't this the best 3 point shooter of all time thread(and specifically clutch shooting)? Shooting(from anywhere not just 3s), clutch, and 3s all spell Reggie Miller.

I'd still take Bird however. But, by no means would I be disappointed with Reg.

see? personal faves. bird, ellis, miller, all good choices. i didnt select bird because he was so dominant.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
reggie? one of the best of all time? hardly. i'd say maybe top 20.

Originally posted by DanZeke25

read the post i made after that, titan fan.

Even if the "20" part was a typo, most people will still find that to be a ridiculous statement.

what, the top 10? its hard to believe that reggie miller is in the top 10?

He should be in the top 5 or 3.

my top 10, not in any order:
1. dale ellis
2. larry bird
3. reggie miller
4. john paxton
5. robert horry
6. craig hodges
7. dan majerle
8. drazen petrovic
9. vernon maxwell
10. detlef schrempf

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
read the post i made after that, titan fan.

I'm not a Titan fan, star wars fan.


Plus Reggie Miller is top 3 at the least. And you said he is "good but relies on 3 point shooting too much". Well this thread is about the best 3 point shooter, so it doesnt matter at all about any other part of his game.

I still say Reggie.

Originally posted by DanZeke25
I'm not a Titan fan, star wars fan.


Plus Reggie Miller is top 3 at the least. And you said he is "good but relies on 3 point shooting too much". Well this thread is about the best 3 point shooter, so it doesnt matter at all about any other part of his game.
ok...if a player uses his 3's too much, he will be defended closer. if he mixes it up, he will have a defender that backs off a bit, anticipating the drive. reggie miller was never much of a drive to the basket player, as, say, larry bird was. it makes you a better 3 point shooter if your defender doesnt know what to expect.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
ok...if a player uses his 3's too much, he will be defended closer. if he mixes it up, he will have a defender that backs off a bit, anticipating the drive. reggie miller was never much of a drive to the basket player, as, say, larry bird was. it makes you a better 3 point shooter if your defender doesnt know what to expect.

Comparing Bird's game to Miller's game is like comparing apples and oranges. There style of play was completely different from one another. Reggie Miller could drive to the whole when he had to, but he was arguabley the greatest shooter ever, and it you're the greatest shooter ever, you don't need to drive to the whole, instead, you runoff screens, or create your own shots one on one. Miller had to shoot more 3s than Bird because his teams weren't as talented as Birds, and alot ot times, he would have to sink some 3s to have his team comeback, which he did, which in turn, makes him arguabley the best 3 point shooter of alltime.

I'm a Pacers fan so I'm obviously a little biased towards Reggie, but I'm glad to see that people from outside of Indiana think so highly of him also.

Highly? He's my favorite player ever.

Originally posted by wuTa
Comparing Bird's game to Miller's game is like comparing apples and oranges. There style of play was completely different from one another. Reggie Miller could drive to the whole when he had to, but he was arguabley the greatest shooter ever, and it you're the greatest shooter ever, you don't need to drive to the whole, instead, you runoff screens, or create your own shots one on one. Miller had to shoot more 3s than Bird because his teams weren't as talented as Birds, and alot ot times, he would have to sink some 3s to have his team comeback, which he did, which in turn, makes him arguabley the best 3 point shooter of alltime.
reggie is the best ever? he was interviewed years ago and he admitted that bird was on a whole different level than he was. bird would tell you what he was gonna do, do it, and you couldnt stop him. he told reggie once, when the celtics were down 2 points with time running out, "i am gonna do this, then this, then this." he did it. as he released the ball, he turned to the pacers bench and said "over, fellas' and, as he started to walk off, the ball hit nothing but net.

You do know what "arguably" means right? This is the best cluth 3 pointer shooter of all time thread, and its either gonna be Reggie Miller, or Larry Bird. No ones going to be wrong for picking those two, but Dale Ellis? I would like to see that interview were Miller said Bird was on a whole other level than Bird, the only reason I could see him saying that is when Miller 1st came into the league, and Bird was in his prime, when Miller was in his prime Bird was out of the league. Bird even coached Miller, and not surprisingly has stated numerous times that Miller is one of the greatest shooters ever (no word on Dale Ellis yet). When Bird played the Pacers he would talk trash to Chuck Person, not Miller, but thats irrelevant. Miller could talk trash too, If you seen any of his games against Kobe, Jordan, or the Knicks you would know this. In fact if you seen any of his games at all we wouldn't be having this conversation.

i have seen reggie play, trust me. i have also seen him go against bird, and no one goes against bird without being owned.
as i stated earlier, dale ellis is the best ever from the point of view that if i were coaching the team, and i needed a big 3, i'd get the ball to him. this is my personal choice, and i am not trying to force it on anyone.
yes, miller is good, a tad bit overrated. ever since that new york playoff game years ago, the hype about him has grown and grown.
like i said, this thread is about PERSONAL choices who the best is, who you would try to get the ball to if YOU were the coach. theres no need to get hostile or to question my knowledge of basketball.

REGGIE MILLER

Reggie, he's awesome.

reggie i would say is either 2nd or third. more 2nd though.

but i honestly think the best 3-point shooter of all time is ray allen. now, reggie does have about 800 more 3 pointers than allen, (if im not mistaken), but ray allen is also way younger and has about 7-8 years more time to play to catch up to when reggie left. ray allen has achieved so much from beyond the arch, and his best is probably yet to come.

top 3 in my oipinion:
1-Ray Allen
2- Reggie Miller
3- Glen Rice

Originally posted by koolruningz
Mark Price certainly deserves a mention and probably had the most perfect shooting mechanics i have ever seen. When my kids are old enough to play i'll be showing them old tapes of Price to learn how to have the perfect form.

I love Mark Price, if he had a healthier career he would get more recognition

I love Ray and Reg and Bird but Glen over Jerry West?