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Thor corps

vs

silver surfer
firelord
red shift
stardust

Thor corps?

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Thor corps?

Thor
dargo thor
eric materson
beta ray bil

Does it include Alpha Ray bill?

I'd reluctantly must give this to the heralds....EM is too inexperienced and wisywasy...Dargo would be willing but not enough fighting prowess to last long...Thor and BRB would stand and fight for a Looooog time but I think with Red Shift being so ruthless they eventually lose

Heralds 6.5/10

It will be Thor and Bill against Firelord and Sufer after a while. Then Thor and Bill in a very long battle.

Silver Surfer speedblitz the team.

Originally posted by golem370
Silver Surfer speedblitz the team.
Beta Ray Bill and Thor can handle a speed Blitz

The Heralds would dispatch the Thor corps with ridiculous ease. The Thor corps are overrated and underpowered, a devastatingly bad combo for the plastic hammer wielders.

Originally posted by Hulk rules all
The Heralds would dispatch the Thor corps with ridiculous ease. The Thor corps are overrated and underpowered, a devastatingly bad combo for the plastic hammer wielders.

heralds

red shift and firelord quickly take out masterson and the other guy (dargo?) while ss and stardust take on thor and brb...

then it will be 4 on 2...

heralds ftw...

Originally posted by LORDSIDIOUS01
It will be Thor and Bill against Firelord and Sufer after a while. Then Thor and Bill in a very long battle.

I consider Stardust to be the second strongest Herald in this match, and think if only two were to remain, it would Stardust and Surfer vs. BRB and Thor. I do however think the Heralds are more powerful, and based on limited showing of Red Shift, I think he could cause problems for the lower End Thor Corps.

Originally posted by draxx_tOfU
red shift and firelord quickly take out masterson and the other guy (dargo?) while ss and stardust take on thor and brb...

then it will be 4 on 2...

heralds ftw...
Pretty much was I was thinking. Lower end Thor Corps.<Lower end Heralds.

Originally posted by Stupid Rookie
Pretty much was I was thinking. Lower end Thor Corps.<Lower end Heralds.

Cosigned.

The upper-echelons are closer, but even then, I'd give the Surfer the win over either of the 'main' hammer brothers individually. The fact that it's four on two just seals the deal.

Dargo's power = Thor's power = BRB's power

Thunderstrike is the weak link but the Thor Corps should still win.

I'm just curious how are they going to beat Stardust?

Originally posted by Scoobless
Dargo's power = Thor's power = BRB's power

Thunderstrike is the weak link but the Thor Corps should still win.



Intersting, I still think the Heralds win, RS or FL could take out Thunderstrike don't you think, at least faster than Dargo would take either of them out.

I personally think SS beats Thor (personal opinion)
and based on their fight I think BRB won't beat stardust easily.

It would be interesting.

Originally posted by Scoobless
Dargo's power = Thor's power = BRB's power

Thunderstrike is the weak link but the Thor Corps should still win.



Power? Sure.

Skill?

thor = ss
bill = stardust
red shift>dargo
firelord>thunderstrike

it would take a while, but the heralds win a good battle.

Originally posted by leonidas
thor = ss
bill = stardust
red shift>dargo
firelord>thunderstrike

it would take a while, but the heralds win a good battle.

Replace Dargo with Alpha Ray bill, and its more balanced.

Originally posted by leonidas
thor < ss
bill = stardust
red shift>dargo
firelord>thunderstrike

it would take a while, but the heralds win a good battle.

Originally posted by Soljer


Why do you still believe Surfer to be Thor's superior although the opposite has been stated and shown in comics?

Thor = ss
bill = stardust
red shift>dargo
firelord>thunderstrike

Yeah, , Thor was shown to be more powerful than the Surfer.

Right after the Surfer got depowered by Galactus. Oh, my mistake, I meant right after he got 'almost totally' drained by the Sonic Shark, which was AFTER his depowering by Galactus. Before fighting Thor, he remarks about how his power is a fraction of what it once was.

Now that the Surfer is Galactus' herald again, he's been re-empowered. Thor was about on the level of a fraction of the real Surfer.

Originally posted by Soljer
Yeah, , Thor was shown to be more powerful than the Surfer.

Right after the Surfer got depowered by Galactus. Oh, my mistake, I meant right after he got 'almost totally' drained by the Sonic Shark, which was AFTER his depowering by Galactus. Before fighting Thor, he remarks about how his power is a fraction of what it once was.

Now that the Surfer is Galactus' herald again, he's been re-empowered. Thor was about on the level of a fraction of the real Surfer.

Just add in there that Surfer stated he was more powerful than ever before. Just thought I might remind you seeing as how you failed to mention it.

Current incarnations Thor is still more powerful than Surfer. Actually, Thor closer to Galactus in power than he is Surfer.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Just add in there that Surfer stated he was more powerful than ever before. Just thought I might remind you seeing as how you failed to mention it.

Current incarnations Thor is still more powerful than Surfer. Actually, Thor closer to Galactus in power than he is Surfer.

Uhhh.....Loki amped the Surfer. But even if Loki added his power to Norrin's it still wouldn't have put him at his original levels.

Also, 'current incarnations,' .

You needn't bring up rune king thor just because you're well aware that the Surfer is more powerful than your favourite asgardian. Rune King Thor isn't even current Thor - Current Thor is the D.B. we saw make a slight appearance in Fantastic Four.

Originally posted by Soljer
Uhhh.....Loki amped the Surfer. But even if Loki added his power to Norrin's it still wouldn't have put him at his original levels.

Also, 'current incarnations,' .

You needn't bring up rune king thor just because you're well aware that the Surfer is more powerful than your favourite asgardian. Rune King Thor isn't even current Thor - Current Thor is the D.B. we saw make a slight appearance in Fantastic Four.

So your telling us what the comic stated isn't true, and that your right?

D.B. isn't Thor, and he also hasn't shown any indication of his power lv since he supposedly arrival. It's good to see you reaching though, making an attempt to make Surfer seem more powerful than Thor.

Anyways, the last time we saw Thor before his slumber he was far more powerful than Surfer.

Oh and BTW. What has Surfer done since receiving this power up? blow up a planet, whoop dupe, he could have done the same before the power up.

So are you honestly saying that you believe that current Thor is Rune King Thor? Or that the Thor we will see in his upcoming ongoing will be Rune King?

Yeah. Right.

The Thor that everyone thinks of when they hear 'Thor' is weaker than the current Silver Surfer.

That simple.

Originally posted by Soljer
So are you honestly saying that you believe that current Thor is Rune King Thor? Or that the Thor we will see in his upcoming ongoing will be Rune King?

Yeah. Right.

The Thor that everyone thinks of when they hear 'Thor' is weaker than the current Silver Surfer.

That simple.

No, but last we saw Thor was Rune King Thor, there's no telling what he'll be upon his return.

But the Thor everyone saw last is far more powerful than current Surfer.

That simple.

The last Thor we saw was DB in Fantastic Four.

There may be no evidence as to what his powerlevel truly was, but...uhhmm...I guarantee it wasn't Rune King Thor level.

*laughs* And I love you how STILL find it necessary to use "BUT WE LAST SAW RUNE KING THOR!!!!1111oneone" as your only defense, seeing as how 'regular' Thor just can't compare.

Rune King Thor >>>>>>>>Surfer >> Thor.

No one's arguing otherwise.

Surfer> Thor.
Stardust > Bill
Firelord<Masterson
RedShift>Dargo

Heralds win comfortably.

Bill already showed how ineffective he was against Stardust.
Thor isn't as durable as Surfer, nor as Fast. But since he absorbs energy, he takes away the bread and butter of Surfer.

Surfer breaks out the exotic stuff, he wins. Dumbed down Surfer loses.

Originally posted by Soljer
The last Thor we saw was DB in Fantastic Four.

There may be no evidence as to what his powerlevel truly was, but...uhhmm...I guarantee it wasn't Rune King Thor level.

*laughs* And I love you how STILL find it necessary to use "BUT WE LAST SAW RUNE KING THOR!!!!1111oneone" as your only defense, seeing as how 'regular' Thor just can't compare.

Rune King Thor >>>>>>>>Surfer >> Thor.

No one's arguing otherwise.

That wasn't Thor it was D.B., and again his power lv wasn't shown.

I also doubt it was, but there no reason to speculate either way. Thus is the reason we tend to go by latest incarnations.

I'm not arguing anything. I was referring to Classic incarnation of each character, but you wanted to use current Surfer so I used the most Current Thor.

Classic Thor can't compare to a Surfer who has done nothing but destroy a planet? interesting.

Rune King Thor >> Surfer = Thor.

Except Marvel, who's stated and displayed the complete opposite of what you've just stated.

Displayed? Yeah, feat for feat, the Surfer is head and shoulders above blondie.

Originally posted by Soljer
Displayed? Yeah, feat for feat, the Surfer is head and shoulders above blondie.

Thor has feats that are beyond the Surfer's

Originally posted by Scoobless
Thor has feats that are beyond the Surfer's

And the Surfer has many more feats that are beyond Thor.

Originally posted by Soljer
Displayed? Yeah, feat for feat, the Surfer is head and shoulders above blondie.

He really doesn't, and you have no proof to back that claim.

Originally posted by Soljer
And the Surfer has many more feats that are beyond Thor.

Says you.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Says you.


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If by 'you' you mean 'every Marvel writer that has even even SEEN a Silver Surfer comic.'

Originally posted by Soljer

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If by 'you' you mean 'every Marvel writer that has even even SEEN a Silver Surfer comic.'

No, I just meant you.

If I may ask, what exactly has Surfer done that puts him over Thor?

Originally posted by Soljer

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If by 'you' you mean 'every Marvel writer that has even even SEEN a Silver Surfer comic.'

I'm pretty sure he just meant "you".

Originally posted by Scoobless
I'm pretty sure he just meant "you".

Nuh uh. Yah ha. Nuh uh. Yah ha. ermm

Originally posted by Hulk rules all
The Heralds would dispatch the Thor corps with ridiculous ease. The Thor corps are overrated and underpowered, a devastatingly bad combo for the plastic hammer wielders.

Obviously distracted by the marmalade in his panties...

Awesome group fight. Like it so much, I don't even want to call a winner; still, Dargo Thor is the most obvious weak link. If he goes down first, the Heralds might eventually claim a win.

Current Surfer is more powerful than Classic Thor. I still say Classic Surfer was more powerful too.

He blew up the planet, just to teach someone a lesson, and also created a black hole.
He amped his power up to Thanos's level.

Oh, and the feats that put him over Thor?
He beat Uni-Lord. A Watcher... a Watcher that was basically one with the universe.

Originally posted by bigbran
Current Surfer is more powerful than Classic Thor. I still say Classic Surfer was more powerful too.

He blew up the planet, just to teach someone a lesson, and also created a black hole.
He amped his power up to Thanos's level.

Oh, and the feats that put him over Thor?
He beat Uni-Lord. A Watcher... a Watcher that was basically one with the universe. If I wasn't on my Ps3 Id post a Response

Originally posted by Soujaboy
If I wasn't on my Ps3 Id post a Response dammit you have a ps3.

Originally posted by xmeat
dammit you have a ps3. There is still like two from launch day, kicking around in Wal-Mart here.

Originally posted by bigbran
There is still like two from launch day, kicking around in Wal-Mart here. and they said you cant find it no where.

One of you get a sig... or banned.

I need a way to tell who's talking. glare

Originally posted by xmeat
and they said you cant find it no where. I don't know if it is still there to be honest.
I saw it on Boxing Day.

I haven't looked since.
Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
One of you get a sig... or banned.

I need a way to tell who's talking. glare No.

Also, proper grammer, could be a clue...?

Originally posted by bigbran

No.

Also, proper grammer, could be a clue...?

Grammar shmammar.

I need pictures or big bold words, damnit!

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
Grammar shmammar.

I need pictures or big bold words, damnit! OK...

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Originally posted by bigbran
OK...

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I'm GETTING A NEW SIG DAMNIT!

And not because of all of your jizz-filled theories.

Just because I'm an ass who gets bored of his sigs to fast.

Though, I am tempted to say that it's still better then having to check if you're xmeat. ermm

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
I'm GETTING A NEW SIG DAMNIT!

And not because of all of your jizz-filled theories.

Just because I'm an ass who gets bored of his sigs to fast.

Though, I am tempted to say that it's still better then having to check if you're xmeat. ermm

If it's not about the jizz then the next one should be wet to

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
I'm GETTING A NEW SIG DAMNIT!

And not because of all of your jizz-filled theories.

Just because I'm an ass who gets bored of his sigs to fast.

Though, I am tempted to say that it's still better then having to check if you're xmeat. ermm Whatever you say...

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Originally posted by Martian_mind
If it's not about the jizz then the next one should be wet to

shrug

Hey, quickshot added the watery affect of his own accord, Don't ask me why.

Anyways, shouldn't we be talking about this in the Wolverine vs. Spiderman thread that we were derailing?

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
shrug

Hey, quickshot added the watery affect of his own accord, Don't ask me why.

Anyways, shouldn't we be talking about this in the Wolverine vs. Spiderman thread that we were derailing? OK...
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Originally posted by bigbran
Current Surfer is more powerful than Classic Thor.

what proof do you have that current>classic?

Originally posted by leonidas
what proof do you have that current>classic? Herald again?
Blows up a planet without trying, and also creates a black hole?
Amps his power up to Thanos's level, in a weakened form?

We shall truely see in the next one though...

Originally posted by bigbran
Herald again?
Blows up a planet without trying, and also creates a black hole?
Amps his power up to Thanos's level, in a weakened form?

We shall truely see in the next one though...

Meh, not that impressive when considering his lv.

Meh, Stardust created a black hole.

Did he amp his power, or did he just have the power required to accomplish the task?

That we will.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Meh, not that impressive when considering his lv.

Meh, Stardust created a black hole.

Did he amp his power, or did he just have the power required to accomplish the task?

That we will. He did it just to teach someone a lesson. All the while, Ravenous was saying "What have you become?"

Good for Stardust... except all Surfer did was blow up the planet, and the black hole followed.

Originally posted by Soljer
A slightly ambiguous feat; the Surfer outputs Thanos-level power.

Annihilation #5
"Keyed to Thanos' power level"
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p105/Manjaro_/Annihilation5004.jpg
"Thanos was power incarnate! We can't activate these!"
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p105/Manjaro_/Annihilation5005.jpg
A ridiculously weakened Surfer:
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p105/Manjaro_/Annihilation5006.jpg
"Enough! It is done!"
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p105/Manjaro_/Annihilation5007.jpg

Oh, I think we can almost safely say he is over his previous powers.

Originally posted by bigbran
He did it just to teach someone a lesson. All the while, Ravenous was saying "What have you become?"

Good for Stardust... except all Surfer did was blow up the planet, and the black hole followed.



Oh, I think we can almost safely say he is over his previous powers.

Still though it's just a planet, they've been just as easily destroyed before bu Herald lv characters.

All Stardust did is lift his rod.

Meh, I guess.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Still though it's just a planet, they've been just as easily destroyed before bu Herald lv characters.

All Stardust did is lift his rod.

Meh, I guess. And? All he did was destoy it, so he could teach someone a lesson. Get it through your head.
He didn't destroy it with all his power, he just unleashed some power.

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Before the Galactus thing, Surfer actually had some trouble with him.

Ya, and all Surfer did was destroy a planet when he was in a mercy fight, basically.

"Meh," Is that a sign for Surfer being more powerful?

Surfer actually hasn't done anything he couldn't do before.

He's destroyed planets in his fights before.

He hadn't yet been given a power up when he created the blackhole, iirc.

All he's done so far, is get into a blast fight and lose to a cosmic being.

But i would say Surfer is more powerful than Thor, classic versions both.

He's faster, more durable by a significant margin and has more easily accessible firepower.

Originally posted by bigbran
And? All he did was destoy it, so he could teach someone a lesson. Get it through your head.
He didn't destroy it with all his power, he just unleashed some power.

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Before the Galactus thing, Surfer actually had some trouble with him.

Ya, and all Surfer did was destroy a planet when he was in a mercy fight, basically.

"Meh," Is that a sign for Surfer being more powerful?

Again; Planets have been destroyed by characters just as easily. This planet feats is not a feat that outs him over his previous lv.

I've read the comics, I don't need those scans.

It's still just a planet, something that has just as easily been destroyed by herald lv characters before.

Meh is my answer to current Surfer being more powerful than classic Surfer.

yeah, i'm not buying the power-up idea either. first, that seemed to me to be less a planet, and more a big rock or asteroid. second, ravenous was ALSO adding his power in that battle -- ss did the same thing to morg with the same result.

the change seems more . . . attitudinal, thus far. it MAY be born out that he has been upgraded, but nothing that i've seen convinces me. the fact that he DID blow up that planetoid JUST to teach a lesson seems to say quite clearly that his attitude HAS changed.

in any event, something that is rarely brought up in thor battles -- he can DECIDE to go 'warrior-mad'. it's not something he does often, but he can do this whenever he wants. if he were really going all out, he would go warrior mad, and wm thor crushed ss, rather easily on a couple occasions.

oh, and before we get too far off topic -- to reiterate -- heralds win, but i think the corps CAN take a couple. specially if thor goes nuts.

I like Stardust.

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
I like Stardust.

Gah . . .

That posting style . . .

Could it be?

Guy222?

Originally posted by leonidas
oh, and before we get too far off topic -- to reiterate -- heralds win, but i think the corps CAN take a couple. specially if thor goes nuts.

Originally posted by UniOmni


But i would say Surfer is more powerful than Thor, classic versions both.

He's faster, more durable by a significant margin and has more easily accessible firepower.

Originally posted by leonidas
yeah, i'm not buying the power-up idea either. first, that seemed to me to be less a planet, and more a big rock or asteroid. second, ravenous was ALSO adding his power in that battle -- ss did the same thing to morg with the same result. Planet. Galactus aske dif he should be mad about what Surfer did.
Plus, Ravenous really did nothing to add.

Originally posted by leonidas
the change seems more . . . attitudinal, thus far. it MAY be born out that he has been upgraded, but nothing that i've seen convinces me. the fact that he DID blow up that planetoid JUST to teach a lesson seems to say quite clearly that his attitude HAS changed. So... are you ignoring the fact that he has amped himself up to Thanos power?

Originally posted by leonidas
in any event, something that is rarely brought up in thor battles -- he can DECIDE to go 'warrior-mad'. it's not something he does often, but he can do this whenever he wants. if he were really going all out, he would go warrior mad, and wm thor crushed ss, rather easily on a couple occasions. He can only go WM three times in his life, before he dies. He has already been it twice. Warlock, and the Blood and Thunder arc.
He has never shown the ability to just turn into it.

Originally posted by bigbran
Planet. Galactus aske dif he should be mad about what Surfer did.
Plus, Ravenous really did nothing to add.

So... are you ignoring the fact that he has amped himself up to Thanos power?

He can only go WM three times in his life, before he dies. He has already been it twice. Warlock, and the Blood and Thunder arc.
He has never shown the ability to just turn into it.

ss has actually defeated thanos on a mental plane, and has seemingly matched him for times in the past -- when he wasn't jobbing. i have no doubt that a non-jobbing ss SHOULD be able to match thanos. we also don't really know just how much power was required there. maybe just more than the others could generate. it was a nice feat, but not enough to convince me he has been amped. need more proof.

where have you seen it said thor can go wm only 3 times . . .? proof?

and he absolutely CAN go wm if he needs to. i've ALREADY posted scans of it in a different thread some time ago. can't recall the f'n thread OR the book right now. i'll see once again if i can scrounge them up in the next little while.

still wondering where this 'only 3x in his lifetime' came from . . .

Originally posted by bigbran
Planet. Galactus aske dif he should be mad about what Surfer did.
Plus, Ravenous really did nothing to add.

So... are you ignoring the fact that he has amped himself up to Thanos power?

He can only go WM three times in his life, before he dies. He has already been it twice. Warlock, and the Blood and Thunder arc.
He has never shown the ability to just turn into it.

Yeah it was a Planet.

There's not enough proof to speculate one had to be on Thanos power lv to unleash the device. It could just as easily be speculated that anyone with a large power lv could have done the same.

?

well, since no one has answered my query regarding where the idea came from that thor can only go warrior mad 3x in his lifetime, i'll spoil any more suspense and pretty much guarantee it to be incorrect as thor has ALREADY undergone at least 3 episodes of warrior madness.

1. the first happened wayyyy back in the 160's somewhere, and he was banished by odin to search for galactus.

2. the second happened when he fought the maestro in hulk . . . 450 (??) that was where thor told everyone he intentionally holds back and does not enter the madness form for fear of the damage he could cause in that state. that why he battled the hulk near the north (south ??) pole. he knew going into that fight he was gonna unleash his warrior madness. he did so CONSCIOUSLY . . .

3. the third obviously was in the (infamous) blood and thunder arc. (least ways i THINK b&t took place AFTER the hulk arc. guess it doesn't really matter which came first . . . )

obviously, since he didn't die at the conclusion of that arc, the notion that he can only go warrior mad 3x in a lifetime is false.

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