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Love isn't easy KMC'ers and it sure isn't free. A 50-year marriage will run you a cool $590,400, not counting courtship, children, medical, housing, daily food, her transportation, clothing and cosmetics costs or inflation Make it count.

This list is broken down into 3 subjects:

What you'll give her--What it costs in a year--What it costs over 50years


Flowers
$300 - $15,000

Greeting Cards
$21 - $1,050

Dinners out
$2,526 - $126,300

Expensive dinners to apologize
$700 - $35,000

Theater, concert, movies
$752 - $37,600

Vacations
$2,913 - $145,650

Jewelry
$1,336 - $66,800

Lingerie
$122 - $6,100

Trips to the spa
$275 - $13,750

Haircuts, grooming products for you
$1,000 - $50,000

Vasectomy after kids are born
$1,000 - $1,000

Caring for the dog she loves so much
$1,226 - $63,300

Valentine's Day
$86 - $4,300

Mother's Day
$70 - $3,500

Holiday, anniversary, birthday gifts
$421 - $21,050

Total Cost
$12,788 - $590,400

Is she worth every penny? And less than half of that, on behalf of women, is spent on men over the same 50 years.

That's why the marriage thing with me is (sigh)....i dunno. Marriage is unnatural, 1st of all but some people can hack it.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Flowers
$300 - $15,000

Greeting Cards
$21 - $1,050

Dinners out
$2,526 - $126,300

Expensive dinners to apologize
$700 - $35,000

Theater, concert, movies
$752 - $37,600

Vacations
$2,913 - $145,650

Jewelry
$1,336 - $66,800

Lingerie
$122 - $6,100

Trips to the spa
$275 - $13,750

Haircuts, grooming products for you
$1,000 - $50,000

Vasectomy after kids are born
$1,000 - $1,000

Caring for the dog she loves so much
$1,226 - $63,300

Valentine's Day
$86 - $4,300

Mother's Day
$70 - $3,500

Holiday, anniversary, birthday gifts
$421 - $21,050



...another pointless chain-email
posted as a gdf topic... - priceless

Haha this is funny though.

Chicks are a money pit there is no way around that, lol.

Originally posted by PVS
...another pointless chain-email


Actuall i got this from a website called nomarriage.com. So wrong, again.

Not a chance in hell anyone spends $1,050 on greeting cards. Especially not a married couple.

You would quadruple those amounts if your girl was Anna Nicole Smith. Except for one category, which should be changed to "Caring for the Dog who used to be a Playboy centerfold."

Also... How many dogs last 50 years?

Though the odds that someone's expenditures sum up to ALL these amounts is astronomical, I can definitely see the greeting card total of $21/year when considering the Christmas/Holiday card factor.

Originally posted by botankus
Though the odds that someone's expenditures sum up to ALL these amounts is astronomical, I can definitely see the greeting card total of $21/year when considering the Christmas/Holiday card factor.

Astronomical? Your exaggerating. I could easily see and believe this much being spent, throughout a marriage, on a woman

Come on, man, I fought your Greeting Card battle for you, you could at least cut me some slack here.

I'm talking about people who see this study and scrutinize every single expenditure that doesn't fall within a nickel of what they spent. Like if I trashed the survey because I only spent $100 on vacations last year. (which I did bag)

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Love isn't easy KMC'ers and it sure isn't free. A 50-year marriage will run you a cool $590,400, not counting courtship, children, medical, housing, daily food, her transportation, clothing and cosmetics costs or inflation Make it count.

This list is broken down into 3 subjects:

What you'll give her--What it costs in a year--What it costs over 50years


Flowers
$300 - $15,000

Greeting Cards
$21 - $1,050

Dinners out
$2,526 - $126,300

Expensive dinners to apologize
$700 - $35,000

Theater, concert, movies
$752 - $37,600

Vacations
$2,913 - $145,650

Jewelry
$1,336 - $66,800

Lingerie
$122 - $6,100

Trips to the spa
$275 - $13,750

Haircuts, grooming products for you
$1,000 - $50,000

Vasectomy after kids are born
$1,000 - $1,000

Caring for the dog she loves so much
$1,226 - $63,300

Valentine's Day
$86 - $4,300

Mother's Day
$70 - $3,500

Holiday, anniversary, birthday gifts
$421 - $21,050

Total Cost
$12,788 - $590,400

Is she worth every penny? And less than half of that, on behalf of women, is spent on men over the same 50 years.

That's why the marriage thing with me is (sigh)....i dunno. Marriage is unnatural, 1st of all but some people can hack it.

I didn't get all this stuff..........crybaby

I need a sugar daddy!

How'd you like a guy who spends $100 on vacations per year? naughty

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
$1,050 over 50 years. You don't see that as a possibility? Think about all. Tally up every special occasion Hallmark card up, and you'd be around that number in 50 yrs Not for one person

Originally posted by debbiejo
I didn't get all this stuff..........crybaby

I need a sugar daddy!

You're not married, are you? If not, wait.

Originally posted by botankus
How'd you like a guy who spends $100 on vacations per year? naughty Cheap!!

You better get a bigger limit on those credit cards......

I was, but I killed him......well mentally......hehe. He didn't stimulate me enough......lol

Originally posted by debbiejo
Cheap!!

You better get a bigger limit on those credit cards......

I will be honest. The vacation was to an NFL game in Charlotte. My friend had free tickets, so I spent $100 on beer. And my wife didn't even go. But I'm still a prized catch in the Sugar Daddy department.

Originally posted by botankus
I will be honest. The vacation was to an NFL game in Charlotte. My friend had free tickets, so I spent $100 on beer. And my wife didn't even go. But I'm still a prized catch in the Sugar Daddy department. Ok, I'll take you......

Originally posted by botankus
I will be honest. The vacation was to an NFL game in Charlotte. My friend had free tickets, so I spent $100 on beer. And my wife didn't even go. But I'm still a prized catch in the Sugar Daddy department.

Are you really married, botankus and if so, do you find yourself spending money on your wife alot? Or unreasonably?

Originally posted by debbiejo
Ok, I'll take you......
Sweet! Okay, I plan on optimizing the going out for dinner thing with you. We'll hit McDonald's dollar menu twice a day, buying 2 double cheeseburgers and a McValue fries each visit. Add $153 in sales tax, and we'll still be $183 under the $2,526 budget. Can you say Sugar Daddy of the year?

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Are you really married, botankus and if so, do you find yourself spending money on your wife alot? Or unreasonably?

Yes, and 90% of what I spend it on isn't on the list.

What is this mysterious thing? Sh*t from the grocery store, gas station, and CVS. I'm talking paper towels, toothpaste, tampons, toilet paper, razors, diet cokes, celery, shredded cheese, milk, etc.......whatever we happen to be out of that day. And believe me, there is a new thing every day. EVERY day.

At least take me to Taco Bell.......I'm a pricey lady..

You buy tampons??? LOL, oh, you're so nice.......Some guys won't do that..Like they think the cashier will look at them as freaks.....hahaha

I can go for that, but ever since they upped the price of a Chalupa, we're going Soft Taco Supreme all the way.

And yes, I will buy Tampons, Vagisil and rubbers, just as long as no one turns the channel from football all weekend.

Originally posted by botankus
Yes, and 90% of what I spend it on isn't on the list.

What is this mysterious thing? Sh*t from the grocery store, gas station, and CVS. I'm talking paper towels, toothpaste, tampons, toilet paper, razors, diet cokes, celery, shredded cheese, milk, etc.......whatever we happen to be out of that day. And believe me, there is a new thing every day. EVERY day.

Tampons, celery.....well..

lmao!

I'm not getting married.. lol

Originally posted by botankus
I can go for that, but ever since they upped the price of a Chalupa, we're going Soft Taco Supreme all the way.

And yes, I will buy Tampons, Vagisil and rubbers, just as long as no one turns the channel from football all weekend.

Oh Baby! I must stalk you.........
The way to my heart...tempt me with food..

How bout a wrap, can we do a wrap??

My tampon buying baby........LOL

Okay, you twisted my arm. Grilled Stuffed Burrito...with Steak! $2.99!

All the free Fire sauce you can handle.

The only benefits I see men enjoying from marriage are tax incentives. But other than that, I can't remember ever running into a happily married man.

Originally posted by botankus
Okay, you twisted my arm. Grilled Stuffed Burrito...with Steak! $2.99!

All the free Fire sauce you can handle. OH I feel like a princess now..........lol


It takes a little divorce to bring a person back to life......back from the dead....hahahaha

Someone should make a thread "The benifits of divorce".........lol

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
The only benefits I see men enjoying from marriage are tax incentives. But other than that, I can't remember ever running into a happily married man.

There's a 24-year old girl I know who's been married for five years and hates being married (their 2 kids are too young and the parents work too much for them to go through a divorce at the time). Anyway, I asked her if she could think of 1 single benefit from being married besides the tax refund. She thought for about 3 minutes, and then she said, "I've got it!"

She said, "Whenever I'm trying to lift something or move something and I say 'Hey, give me a hand' or 'Hold this, will ya?', there's always someone there to do it."

Been there......

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Love isn't easy KMC'ers and it sure isn't free. A 50-year marriage will run you a cool $590,400, not counting courtship, children, medical, housing, daily food, her transportation, clothing and cosmetics costs or inflation Make it count.

This list is broken down into 3 subjects:

What you'll give her--What it costs in a year--What it costs over 50years


Flowers
$300 - $15,000

Greeting Cards
$21 - $1,050

Dinners out
$2,526 - $126,300

Expensive dinners to apologize
$700 - $35,000

Theater, concert, movies
$752 - $37,600

Vacations
$2,913 - $145,650

Jewelry
$1,336 - $66,800

Lingerie
$122 - $6,100

Trips to the spa
$275 - $13,750

Haircuts, grooming products for you
$1,000 - $50,000

Vasectomy after kids are born
$1,000 - $1,000

Caring for the dog she loves so much
$1,226 - $63,300

Valentine's Day
$86 - $4,300

Mother's Day
$70 - $3,500

Holiday, anniversary, birthday gifts
$421 - $21,050

Total Cost
$12,788 - $590,400

Is she worth every penny? And less than half of that, on behalf of women, is spent on men over the same 50 years.

That's why the marriage thing with me is (sigh)....i dunno. Marriage is unnatural, 1st of all but some people can hack it.

Ahh.... but can you truly ever put a price on good pussie?

Originally posted by sithsaber408
Ahh.... but can you truly ever put a price on good pussie?

Sithsaber????

si...

Originally posted by sithsaber408
Ahh.... but can you truly ever put a price on good pussie?

You know, I've never been able to choose between money and puss, though. It's always been a waging war in my mind. And I'm a fairly decisive guy.

I love women but money has this whip appeal about it.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Love isn't easy KMC'ers and it sure isn't free. A 50-year marriage will run you a cool $590,400, not counting courtship, children, medical, housing, daily food, her transportation, clothing and cosmetics costs or inflation Make it count.

This list is broken down into 3 subjects:

What you'll give her--What it costs in a year--What it costs over 50years


Flowers
$300 - $15,000

Greeting Cards
$21 - $1,050

Dinners out
$2,526 - $126,300

Expensive dinners to apologize
$700 - $35,000

Theater, concert, movies
$752 - $37,600

Vacations
$2,913 - $145,650

Jewelry
$1,336 - $66,800

Lingerie
$122 - $6,100

Trips to the spa
$275 - $13,750

Haircuts, grooming products for you
$1,000 - $50,000

Vasectomy after kids are born
$1,000 - $1,000

Caring for the dog she loves so much
$1,226 - $63,300

Valentine's Day
$86 - $4,300

Mother's Day
$70 - $3,500

Holiday, anniversary, birthday gifts
$421 - $21,050

Total Cost
$12,788 - $590,400

Is she worth every penny? And less than half of that, on behalf of women, is spent on men over the same 50 years.

That's why the marriage thing with me is (sigh)....i dunno. Marriage is unnatural, 1st of all but some people can hack it.

Actually that's all money you spend for yourself. You think she is worth it, so why not. I don't see the problem, whether you spend it on company and getting laid once in a while or on Video Games doesn't seem a big difference to me.

Marriage is kinda pointless anyways.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Love isn't easy KMC'ers and it sure isn't free. A 50-year marriage will run you a cool $590,400, not counting courtship, children, medical, housing, daily food, her transportation, clothing and cosmetics costs or inflation Make it count.

This list is broken down into 3 subjects:

What you'll give her--What it costs in a year--What it costs over 50years


Flowers
$300 - $15,000

Greeting Cards
$21 - $1,050

Dinners out
$2,526 - $126,300

Expensive dinners to apologize
$700 - $35,000

Theater, concert, movies
$752 - $37,600

Vacations
$2,913 - $145,650

Jewelry
$1,336 - $66,800

Lingerie
$122 - $6,100

Trips to the spa
$275 - $13,750

Haircuts, grooming products for you
$1,000 - $50,000

Vasectomy after kids are born
$1,000 - $1,000

Caring for the dog she loves so much
$1,226 - $63,300

Valentine's Day
$86 - $4,300

Mother's Day
$70 - $3,500

Holiday, anniversary, birthday gifts
$421 - $21,050

Total Cost
$12,788 - $590,400

Is she worth every penny? And less than half of that, on behalf of women, is spent on men over the same 50 years.

That's why the marriage thing with me is (sigh)....i dunno. Marriage is unnatural, 1st of all but some people can hack it.

She had better know how to deepthroat for that much cash, and she better do it hourly.

Originally posted by BackFire
She had better know how to deepthroat for that much cash, and she better do it hourly.

Even when she'd looked like a hag with 1 tooth.

Hey, to each his own. I heard gummy bj's are the new thing now, anyway.

Originally posted by Atlantis001
It makes marriage looks like a investiment.

It is an investment.

And it has costs that are beyond cash even!

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
It is an investment.

Yeah right. An investment in her eyes. It's a loss for guys.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Yeah right. An investment in her eyes. It's a loss for guys.

Not really. It can be...but only if the guy is bad at calculating outcome.

If you are only talking about marriage it is a bit different as it is a more binding contract, whoch can be (but doesn't have to be) unfavorable to the guy.

Theres a little more than money in this whole matter, but as for its expensiveness....agreed. Although it is all relevant to income, where you live, how you live, etc... some people dont buy a lot or spend too much, and for some time it can cost less like when renting an apartment when you both have jobs.

Society is based off a paycheck. It always has been, someday its gunna cost the world more than it can pay. Wish it was all simpler.

Still, some things are worth more than money.

Originally posted by The Black Ghost
Theres a little more than money in this whole matter, but as for its expensiveness....agreed. Although it is all relevant to income, where you live, how you live, etc... some people dont buy a lot or spend too much, and for some time it can cost less like when renting an apartment when you both have jobs.

Society is based off a paycheck. It always has been, someday its gunna cost the world more than it can pay. Wish it was all simpler.

Still, some things are worth more than money.

No, no, thinks can't be worth more than money...as money is only a means to describe worth....

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Love isn't easy KMC'ers and it sure isn't free. A 50-year marriage will run you a cool $590,400, not counting courtship, children, medical, housing, daily food, her transportation, clothing and cosmetics costs or inflation Make it count.

This list is broken down into 3 subjects:

What you'll give her--What it costs in a year--What it costs over 50years


Flowers
$300 - $15,000

Greeting Cards
$21 - $1,050

Dinners out
$2,526 - $126,300

Expensive dinners to apologize
$700 - $35,000

Theater, concert, movies
$752 - $37,600

Vacations
$2,913 - $145,650

Jewelry
$1,336 - $66,800

Lingerie
$122 - $6,100

Trips to the spa
$275 - $13,750

Haircuts, grooming products for you
$1,000 - $50,000

Vasectomy after kids are born
$1,000 - $1,000

Caring for the dog she loves so much
$1,226 - $63,300

Valentine's Day
$86 - $4,300

Mother's Day
$70 - $3,500

Holiday, anniversary, birthday gifts
$421 - $21,050

Total Cost
$12,788 - $590,400

Is she worth every penny? And less than half of that, on behalf of women, is spent on men over the same 50 years.

That's why the marriage thing with me is (sigh)....i dunno. Marriage is unnatural, 1st of all but some people can hack it.

Sounds like another reason to ban gay marriage. We contribute less to the economy based on this.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Love isn't easy KMC'ers and it sure isn't free. A 50-year marriage will run you a cool $590,400, not counting courtship, children, medical, housing, daily food, her transportation, clothing and cosmetics costs or inflation Make it count.

This list is broken down into 3 subjects:

What you'll give her--What it costs in a year--What it costs over 50years


Flowers
$300 - $15,000

Greeting Cards
$21 - $1,050

Dinners out
$2,526 - $126,300

Expensive dinners to apologize
$700 - $35,000

Theater, concert, movies
$752 - $37,600

Vacations
$2,913 - $145,650

Jewelry
$1,336 - $66,800

Lingerie
$122 - $6,100

Trips to the spa
$275 - $13,750

Haircuts, grooming products for you
$1,000 - $50,000

Vasectomy after kids are born
$1,000 - $1,000

Caring for the dog she loves so much
$1,226 - $63,300

Valentine's Day
$86 - $4,300

Mother's Day
$70 - $3,500

Holiday, anniversary, birthday gifts
$421 - $21,050

Total Cost
$12,788 - $590,400

Is she worth every penny? And less than half of that, on behalf of women, is spent on men over the same 50 years.

That's why the marriage thing with me is (sigh)....i dunno. Marriage is unnatural, 1st of all but some people can hack it.
DUDE ITS TEh FREEKY WHITE CHIX HOLDIN U BACK

Originally posted by Bardock42
No, no, thinks can't be worth more than money...as money is only a means to describe worth....

Things, you idiot!

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
It is an investment.
i disagree. its noit a material object.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
i disagree. its noit a material object.

Well...it is though.

If everything was qualified by how much it cost, then life would be worthless.

I win.

I think this is missing the point of marriage slightly. ermm

Originally posted by Ya Krunk'd Floo
If everything was qualified by how much it cost, then life would be worthless.

I win.

Which is why it is done the other way around.

Life is worthless because everything is qualified by how much it costs?

You pessimist, Bardock. I believe in blue skies and laughter.

Originally posted by Ya Krunk'd Floo
Life is worthless because everything is qualified by how much it costs?

You pessimist, Bardock. I believe in blue skies and laughter.

I believe in blue skies and laughter as well....just that there isn't any reason for either. Cause everything is shit.

But if you believe in the beautiful dreams of a rainbow, then not everything is shit, Bardock.

Not everything.

Yeah, yeah, the smile on a baby's face, **** you!

$7,50

Only 7.50? Don't you have one of those at home?? What kind of baby do you have??

I will say three things about the financial part of it.

One, the tax return was substantially bigger than when I was single and she was my girlfriend, when I was spending approximately the same amount of money on the same things I spend for her now.

Two, there's an extra income in there (unless your girl's in debt like mine is.......) so if she's not in debt and making $40,000 a year, the joint income will increase whereas in the past a girlfriend probably wouldn't contribute for anything.

Three, somebody said something about saving money renting versus owning a home. Owning property establishes equity in an asset, which can be sold at a pretty high margin in many markets, thus gaining a substantial profit in the future. Renting does not. If you are married and have two people contributing to the mortgage payments, you can either achieve the principal balance faster or reduce the amount from your paycheck going towards your mortgage payment than if you were single.

I can repair most anything in my house. Two years ago, when I was single and just drank beer all day, I was lucky if I knew how to change the toilet seat cover.

Originally posted by Bardock42
All of those seem biased generalizations that have no meaning. That might be the case, but doesn't have to.

Their sure as hell meaningful to me. If all those things were the antithesis of marriage then forget getting married.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Their sure as hell meaningful to me. If all those things were the antithesis of marriage then forget getting married.

If they were. But they aren't.

Originally posted by Bardock42
If they were. But they aren't.

They aren't what...true.?

Everyone of those wonderful things would be nearly impossible to achieve effectively in a marriage.

I'll address the housework part of it.

First off, I bought my house in 2002 and got married in 2005. When I was single, I did a fair amount of housework and it looked like sh*t. Now that I am married, I do the same amount and it looks like a house I wouldn't be embarrassed to show anyone anymore.

I guess when considering those factors, you have to figure out what you're actually trying to achieve.

Originally posted by botankus
I will say three things about the financial part of it.

One, the tax return was substantially bigger than when I was single and she was my girlfriend, when I was spending approximately the same amount of money on the same things I spend for her now.


i don't get it, i thought a married couple gets a better tax break than a single person does.

I remember having my taxes done for me last year and the lady servicing me looked at the amount I was getting. She chuckled and said you need to have children and get married or something. You're getting back peanuts".

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
i don't get it, i thought a married couple gets a better tax break than a single person does.

I did say that when I used the word "than."

But he has been married and can see it from both views. You have not. Of course not all marriages are the same....But with time........The sex goes out the window........And after a marriage ones self esteem goes up...of course this is not with everybody...And you can be with your friends more, and you can do what you want, go places and such and there is no one nagging you (yes men nag). And you don't have to be home at a certain time.

Of course this is coming from 2 divorced people.........LOL

Originally posted by debbiejo
But he has been married and can see it from both views. You have not. Of course not all marriages are the same....But with time........The sex goes out the window........And after a marriage ones self esteem goes up...of course this is not with everybody...And you can be with your friends more, and you can do what you want, go places and such and there is no one nagging you. And you don't have to be home at a certain time.

Of course this is coming from 2 divorced people.........LOL
FOTN has been married?


Doesn't matter, my points are still in accordance with reality, you may disprove them if you wish, but you just shouldn't make such biased nonsensical claims.

I'm not saying it's a bed of roses (or whatever) by any stretch of the imagination. There are pros and cons, obviously.

Con: The nagging factor.
Pro: I get to take Debs to Taco Bell in the middle of the night.

I did say not everyones marriage is the same though. There are some good ones, but here in MI the divorce rate is up to 70 percent, and OHHHHHHH how we compare notes....

Originally posted by botankus
I'm not saying it's a bed of roses (or whatever) by any stretch of the imagination. There are pros and cons, obviously.

Con: The nagging factor.
Pro: I get to take Debs to Taco Bell in the middle of the night. I just saw this...........LOL Chalupa with sause..very good.

The Real cost of love is the heart, soul and best years of her life a woman gives to a man.

angel








(...that's gotta earn me points somewhere...)

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
First off deb, i was never married. 2ndly, Bardock, with the better body thing. You'd have more time to work out a not have a jealous spouse b*tching over the fact that you wanna look and feel fit and attractive.

Yes. You do do less housework. When she's tired, who's gonna clean her bloody panties and the rest of her wardrobe along with yours when shes sick or exhausted. Who's gonna clean the house when she won't do it when you normally keep things tidy? You.

And say good bye to your money and it's loot. You'll wife'll hate you constantly playing video games. And that's after b*tching about how much of a inconsiderate d*ck you are for spending your own money on a video game system instead of getting her that purse. Or giving her the money instead. Please.

You have way better sex as a single guy meaning. It dies down in marriage. The same plate of rice gets boring after having it more than a few times, Bardock. Variety is the spice of life.


You are better rested as a single guy. Getting up at 2:40 a.m. almost all the time cause your pregnant wife's craving Ben and Jerry's Cherry Garcia that's not in your fridge but at your local CVS or getting up practically every night cause your baby's yelling out the top of it's lungs from 4:00am till dawn blows hard.

You're less depressed a a single guy. No pressure on maintaining and supporting a family. I dunno about you but always worrying sucks.

You have better friendships. Hell you'd be lucky to have friends when you're married. And forget having fun. If it's not with her, be prepared to hear it, shriekingly.

With travel. You have to bring money for you and her on top of the money she's brought only for her spending pleasure, lol.

And knowing yourself. Please. I found myself on my own. By myself. And there's nothing like peace and quiet after a long day of work. Where you could go home right after a hard day, grab a beer, throw it back, sit down, loosen your tie and shoe, and go "aghhhh..." while smiling. Throw that out the window forever when wife and child burst in.

These are excellent reasons - they might almost be enough to convince even the most benevolent of narcissists.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Bardock, with the better body thing. You'd have more time to work out a not have a jealous spouse b*tching over the fact that you wanna look and feel fit and attractive.


Or she will make you work out so you keep your shape.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Yes. You do do less housework. When she's tired, who's gonna clean her bloody panties and the rest of her wardrobe along with yours when shes sick or exhausted. Who's gonna clean the house when she won't do it when you normally keep things tidy? You.


And she doesn't do any housework? Also, that's all hypothetically. Not fact. And depends on the partner,

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
And say good bye to your money and it's loot. You'll wife'll hate you constantly playing video games. And that's after b*tching about how much of a inconsiderate d*ck you are for spending your own money on a video game system instead of getting her that purse. Or giving her the money instead. Please.


Assumption, doesn't apply always. Why do you assume your wife doesn't work? Do you generally go for stupid girls?


Originally posted by FistOfThe North
You have way better sex as a single guy meaning. It dies down in marriage. The same plate of rice gets boring after having it more than a few times, Bardock. Variety is the spice of life.


Again, maybe, but still why should you not have sex with other people while being married?

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
You are better rested as a single guy. Getting up at 2:40 a.m. almost all the time cause your pregnant wife's craving Ben and Jerry's Cherry Garcia that's not in your fridge but at your local CVS or getting up practically every night cause your baby's yelling out the top of it's lungs from 4:00am till dawn blows hard.


Right, wives are pregnant all the time.
And that is an argument against having children not against being married.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
You're less depressed a a single guy. No pressure on maintaining and supporting a family. I dunno about you but always worrying sucks.


Pressure on maintaining yourself. What if you enjoy it?

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
You have better friendships. Hell you'd be lucky to have friends when you're married. And forget having fun. If it's not with her, be prepared to hear it, shriekingly.


You really just go for bitches, right?

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
With travel. You have to bring money for you and her on top of the money she's brought only for her spending pleasure, lol.


You travel because you enjoy it, if you have other reasons you are an idiot. And deserve not to enjoy it.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
And knowing yourself. Please. I found myself on my own. By myself. And there's nothing like peace and quiet after a long day of work. Where you could go home right after a hard day, grab a beer, throw it back, sit down, loosen your tie and shoe, and go "aghhhh..." while smiling. Throw that out the window forever when wife and child burst in.

Maybe the person likes the company of their wife and children.


It's okay if you don't want it, but your cons are biased and not factual and you do not mention pros.

Now why in the hell would i have sex with someone else if i'm married. What the hell was the point of getting married in the 1st place. People do it but it's something you just shouldn't do. Your marriage must mean shit if you have to become a rat and go behind your wife's back and screw someone else.

Forget the sneaking around. And no i don't go for b*tches. They're almost all like that. Just give them the time to settle with you, you'll see.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Now why in the hell would i have sex with someone else if i'm married.


Because it gets boring to have sex with the same person all the time?

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
What the hell was the point of getting married in the 1st place.

Tax cuts. Sign of love. etc.
Originally posted by FistOfThe North

People do it but it's something you just shouldn't do.

Why?
Originally posted by FistOfThe North

Your marriage must mean shit if you have to become a rat and go behind your wife's back and screw someone else.

Why behind your wife's back? Also, you are the one that says marriages are shit anyways.
Originally posted by FistOfThe North

Forget the sneaking around.

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Originally posted by FistOfThe North

And no i don't go for b*tches. They're almost all like that. Just give them the time to settle with you, you'll see.

You have quite a negative view of people. But maybe you are right, my personal experience is more than limited.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Just give them the time to settle with you, you'll see.

What does that mean?

Ya know? I was really nice and didn't nag... cleaned the house too. I had the cleanest house in the whole neighborhood. I made my meals by scratch, but heaven forbit I should pick up a book..

Originally posted by debbiejo
Ya know? I was really nice and didn't nag... cleaned the house too. I had the cleanest house in the whole neighborhood. I made my meals by scratch, but heaven forbit I should pick up a book..
Books give you bad ideas. You are impressionable. I am with your Ex on this.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Books give you bad ideas. You are impressionable. I am with your Ex on this. Death to you!

At least I exist.

On another note, some people marry and it becomes a control issue, when that happens, love flies out the window.....

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
What does that mean?

We all know that after the initial pleasantries that typically occur early in relationships die out after a while, after the first time, in women. Especially after they have kids.

From what I've heard, after child birth, they practically don't even want you looking at them, must less touching them.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Love isn't easy KMC'ers and it sure isn't free. A 50-year marriage will run you a cool $590,400, not counting courtship, children, medical, housing, daily food, her transportation, clothing and cosmetics costs or inflation Make it count.

This list is broken down into 3 subjects:

What you'll give her--What it costs in a year--What it costs over 50years


Flowers
$300 - $15,000

Greeting Cards
$21 - $1,050

Dinners out
$2,526 - $126,300

Expensive dinners to apologize
$700 - $35,000

Theater, concert, movies
$752 - $37,600

Vacations
$2,913 - $145,650

Jewelry
$1,336 - $66,800

Lingerie
$122 - $6,100

Trips to the spa
$275 - $13,750

Haircuts, grooming products for you
$1,000 - $50,000

Vasectomy after kids are born
$1,000 - $1,000

Caring for the dog she loves so much
$1,226 - $63,300

Valentine's Day
$86 - $4,300

Mother's Day
$70 - $3,500

Holiday, anniversary, birthday gifts
$421 - $21,050

Total Cost
$12,788 - $590,400

Is she worth every penny? And less than half of that, on behalf of women, is spent on men over the same 50 years.

That's why the marriage thing with me is (sigh)....i dunno. Marriage is unnatural, 1st of all but some people can hack it. I find this sexist and American.

Originally posted by lord xyz
I find this sexist and American.

Fair enough assessment, but what's with the four-and five-word generalization posts today? There was one gem of a post in the Bears thread, which proved the user didn't read one word of the thread to that point. If you're too lazy to read the thread, at least explain your views so people can be just as lazy when trying to decipher these vague posts.

Unless it's an inside joke, in which case I didn't get it.

One way to avoid Valentine's day and come out way on top:

Tell your significant other that you want to take her a state or 2 away and do something there. She'll say no, most likely because she'll either be working or be too busy that day, since it falls on a Wed. And if she says lets go during the weekend say "No" adamantly because it must be done on Valentines day other wise it won't be special to you. And if she complains about you not planning, tell her you wanted it to be a surprise.

But if she does decide to go on V-day with you....well, you're on your own.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Tell your significant other that you want to take her a state or 2 away and do something there. .

Are you two states away from Alabama? If you are, you may want to take advantage of their lax laws of intimacy and actually follow through with the trip.

Originally posted by botankus
Are you two states away from Alabama? If you are, you may want to take advantage of their lax laws of intimacy and actually follow through with the trip.

No but i'm a state away from Connecticut where America's largest casino is. Foxwoods.

It's what i'm gonna use. I'm gonna say "Happy V. day, baby. And for your surprise, we're going to Foxwoods! Today! Like now...so get ready..It's the best surprise i've ever given..And i'm doing it all for you. We'll have dinner there then play some Texas Hold'em and we'll even spend the night."

Checkmate lol i can see it unfolding now. It's fool proof. She'll most likely say "no" she'll expect me to get rightfully offended. She'll feel slightly guilty and i save alot of money. Cool beans.

But what do i say to her about her birthday on the 16th of Feb...